mannn! wale made the forbes list a few years back . he has platinum singles an albums. hit records , a strong female fanbase. true his label didn't promote his last album right. you got Jerry Seinfeld thorughout your album and there's no crzy promotion for it? but , interestingly enough, when wale left roc nation, things somewhat change for him. he need to focus on what he has and strengthen his teams and don't worry about what other artists is doing. wale did more than alot of artists have done and not appreciating the gift he been given.
Wale Says Being Dark Skinned Hurt His Rap Career
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Somewhat but not in the same way as Wale
Kendrick has found a way to mesh most of his different concepts together. The black pride stuff the gang stuff the sexual stuff in a melting pot that's not totally different from his last efforts
Wale goes full in on whichever one he's doing at the time
So while Kendrick might switch up the sound some the tones and undertones remain the same throughout. Section 80 was a mesh. Sonically more indie.
GKMC was a mesh a couple more pronounced things sonically but same undertones and overtones.
TPAB took a completely different approach sonically but the pimp/gang/pride vibe was still the same.
And now his latest. Sonically different but same pimp/gang/pride vibe.
I think Kendrick is a bad example I actually him vs J. Cole is where he may have a huge point.
you do know he was signed to aftermath via top dawg when he dropped section 80? and doing 35-40k for 1st week numbers for a independent album is great for the time when it came out. he's a dude that had friends that gang bang but he's in the midst of the bullshit trying to navigate it. i dont think section 80 is a better records than any of his major label albums.
I disagree. Kendrick shit is all over the place. From hippie, to gangbanging, black power, to abstract overly artistic babble... His albums are a mess at times. Hes super talented tho. But agree with your overall point on Wale in that regard.. His last album wasnt for me at all.
To be clear, Wale didnt mention or reference him tho.
Being a bitch ass nigga hurt his rap career.
Niggas don't want to listen to shit that soft ass nigga got to say.
That's why all his biggest songs were for the bitches.
If he didn't make songs for the bitches, he would have no hits.
The fact he's using this as an excuse is emo as fuck right there. Him posting that shit doesn't make me want to go look his shit up.
Like Kid from Kid N' Play is in the argument for greatest of all-time. How come Cory Gunz didn't blow up? Or Gudda Gudda? How come Peedi Crakk didn't make it, but Meek Mill took his style and blew up with it and now he got white people flying him to Sixers games fresh out of jail?
Niggas don't want to listen to shit that soft ass nigga got to say.
That's why all his biggest songs were for the bitches.
If he didn't make songs for the bitches, he would have no hits.
The fact he's using this as an excuse is emo as fuck right there. Him posting that shit doesn't make me want to go look his shit up.
Like Kid from Kid N' Play is in the argument for greatest of all-time. How come Cory Gunz didn't blow up? Or Gudda Gudda? How come Peedi Crakk didn't make it, but Meek Mill took his style and blew up with it and now he got white people flying him to Sixers games fresh out of jail?
you can't go dropping infinity stones without further explanations to the people cuz.
The funny thing is I didn't kno kanye was a light skin Mexican nig.. Wale loss with that comment.. DC hold your extra moist l and go play zelda
Yea I late edited it to just include that argument and not that Wale made that argument of him vs kendrick
I disagree with his albums being all over the place I think that his concepts are all over the place but every album had a clear concept its just that they clearly differ from the previous albums.
To me there's no reason Wale can't be bigger if J. Cole is an icon
J.Cole has a voice. His voice is emotional. Dealing with various emotions he's going through and observations in where he sees society heading. Dealing with personal things that torment him and commenting on the culture. That's his voice. I actually am not a huge J.Cole fan because of his literal voice. It's not dynamic to me but I respect his skill to rap and his skill in producing and crafting all of that but in rap your actual vocals are an instrument as well.
With Wale I wonder what he tries to be at times. At first he was with the roots and keeping it go-go authentic which is fine not my cup of tea but fine and had room to grow into something great.
Then he kind of went abstract (this is all musically by the way his subject matter sans a few radio attempts are the same)
He didn't commit to being Wale he didn't commit to being whatever it is he saw for himself and that might have been due to pressure to succeed or creative differences with people in charge of his records and his label and various things but he got lost in the shuffle because I can't really name a track where he says "This is who I am"
someone name that one for me
Yes. Thats what i meant.
same page as usual
Good point,come to think of it I have yet to hear a street record from him,BUT these days females drive the market. Looks like he wants to be in Drake's lane,just ain't happening
i cannot disagree with one word
at one point he was a street rapper then spoken word then he sang then he was backpack then he was super intelligent abstract then he was all European labels
I appreciate versatility but I don't like inconsistency
I don't know who HE is...
and if his music is supposed to speak for him either he is not that good at his craft or I don't like the person he is portraying
and this is coming from a Wale fan.
This kid can rhyme his ass off and is very smart and has a TON of interests.
But he seems VERY concerned with what WE think
instead of expressing the BEST of himself on these tracks
I'm going to actually try to find 5 songs of his I really like and think show him in the best light.
Ur pretty much saying he ain't authentic.. He's talented but he has limited knowledge or experience in certain subject matters so he comes off as jump on any hot topic that mite sell some records.. That's wale as a whole and why he isn't as big as he wants to be
See but I think even THAT specific personality?
is relateable
a young black man still trying to find himself
and now add in baby mama the music industry sex drugs women money social media pressure expectations family the disappointments ...
from HIS specific view point as a child of African immigrants raised in DC
yo that is a CLASSIC 12 track album right there if he could put all that on wax!
(cause Kendrick and J. Cole and too a lesser extent Drake did)
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at least Wale never been out here LYING on these tracks.
I find it interesting if you REALLY LISTEN to Drake music he routinely sh*ts on women
(Rihanna recent comments kinda sorta supports this)
yet they think he is some of feminist when once an album he makes an album like nice for what
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at least Wale never been out here LYING on these tracks.
I find it interesting if you REALLY LISTEN to Drake music he routinely sh*ts on women
(Rihanna recent comments kinda sorta supports this)
yet they think he is some of feminist when once an album he makes an album like nice for what
Drake is ultimate wave rider canadian surfer and that's ok cause that in itself is who he is lol
to extend that thought...
for some reason there is a controversy about VERACITY in the rhymes.
PARTICULARLY with this new audience
I am getting to the point where I don't care if its the TRUTH (and I don't think we ever REALLY did as rap became pop music)
but that you can make me FEEL and BELIEVE its the truth.
Do you care either way?
does a rapper have to had ACTUALLY shot someone to rap about shooting someone?
(also interesting how if the rapper is WELL LIKED it doesn't matter if he is being truthful or even if he actually WROTE the rhymes even)
looking back
Could Rick Ross have used the whole corrections officer who was actually "undercover" and running a huge drug trafficking ring inside and outside the prison?
Easy pivot but he decided to just LIE lol and everyone said OK we have proof you lying but the music and the capes came out
so real is subjective at this point nobody can be outed for being fake fake is the new real from that point on
Yall focused on the skin color when that wasn't the point he was making. If Wale was white or mixed black/white, he would have been more successful. His material is better than Post Malone,JCole, Macklemore etc etc etc. If Canibus, Royce 5'9 or Joe Budden had been white, then they would be Eminem. That is what he meant by darker skin.
Solid points about Section.80 and da Interscope push.
This is absurd.
Number 1 ode to thots.
Him being a bitch ass nigga on social media (Twitter) didn't and doesn't help his case either. He's a very unlikable guy.
The homie that you meet at Buffalo Wild Wings to watch the game?
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