Umar Johnson vs. Roland Martin

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Notice Johnson isn't criticizing Black Women in his anti-IR rant.

Tells me after a year or two of (kind of) laying low, dude now's wants to deflect by throwing (iconic) Black Men under a bus. Umar's now going for that audience of Bitter Brigade of females. And these nitwits will blindly follow him due to his latest rants.

Cats like Belanfonte have done more for Black people in a year than Johnson will ever do in his lifetime. And some of you know that Belanfonte doesn't take any shit. Even at 90, that Elder can kick Johnson's ASS without a sweat.

I gave Dudes like Umar and Tariq a chance. But these dudes are attention-whoring and bilking off of Black historical pain.

Peeps need to stop falling for their shit, exercise critical thinking, and go to a library.
 
He don't fuck with his own father now because clearly he's a swirler. He always speaks well of his mother so source of Umar's hard line cuts deep.

 
Notice Johnson isn't criticizing Black Women in his anti-IR rant.

Tells me after a year or two of (kind of) laying low, dude now's wants to deflect by throwing (iconic) Black Men under a bus. Umar's now going for that audience of Bitter Brigade of females. And these nitwits will blindly follow him due to his latest rants.

Cats like Belanfonte have done more for Black people in a year than Johnson will ever do in his lifetime. And some of you know that Belanfonte doesn't take any shit. Even at 90, that Elder can kick Johnson's ASS without a sweat.

I gave Dudes like Umar and Tariq a chance. But these dudes are attention-whoring and bilking off of Black historical pain.

Peeps need to stop falling for their shit, exercise critical thinking, and go to a library.
What exactly is he deflecting? I'd like you to elaborate this for the fam if you will. :confused:
 
Notice Johnson isn't criticizing Black Women in his anti-IR rant.

Tells me after a year or two of (kind of) laying low, dude now's wants to deflect by throwing (iconic) Black Men under a bus. Umar's now going for that audience of Bitter Brigade of females. And these nitwits will blindly follow him due to his latest rants.

Cats like Belanfonte have done more for Black people in a year than Johnson will ever do in his lifetime. And some of you know that Belanfonte doesn't take any shit. Even at 90, that Elder can kick Johnson's ASS without a sweat.

I gave Dudes like Umar and Tariq a chance. But these dudes are attention-whoring and bilking off of Black historical pain.

Peeps need to stop falling for their shit, exercise critical thinking, and go to a library.

He didn't absolve them either........ some of y'all just disagree because you like Cac women.
 
So they just brought him in to drill him and discredit him?

He did a great job of shutting that down

How did Roland try to discredit him?

One of our problems is that we always see things as one vs one.

Roland challenging him on an issue isnt the same as trying to discredit him. Its a debate. Which we should be able to have WITHOUT automatically reverting to calling each other coons and frauds just because of the disagreement.
 
How did Roland try to discredit him?

One of our problems is that we always see things as one vs one.

Roland challenging him on an issue isnt the same as trying to discredit him. Its a debate. Which we should be able to have WITHOUT automatically reverting to calling each other coons and frauds just because of the disagreement.
It seemed like Roland was putting him on record about his claims.

Relative, not descendent of FD. Check.
PHD, where? Check
Money? Check.
School? Check

The whole IR convo is doing him a disservice.

He needs to publish first. IMHO
 
That was a bit of an ambush

I didn't have a problem with Roland's questions in the beginning

The end though . :smh: . It was like it was three against one. The attorney seemed to stay neutral.

and being that Umar was the guest, he should have shut down the people talking over him and badgering him

Then to get upset at the coon comment when it was in response to being called a liar . :hmm:
 
What exactly is he deflecting? I'd like you to elaborate this for the fam if you will. :confused:

IMO...
Johnson's using the IR issue to take the attention off of his own issues. Especially in regards to the money peeps gave him for that school.

People have very legitimate questions about where their money is going. And Dude is now doing a full court press after not practically hearing a peep from him for over a year.

Sorry. But going on an Anti-IR rant all of a sudden is a women's move whenever they don't want to be under a microscope.

He didn't absolve them either........ some of y'all just disagree because you like Cac women.

HEY DUMMY!

My ex-wife is a Black Woman.
My Current Lady is a Black Woman.

Try Again.
 
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People have very legitimate questions about where their money is going. And Dude is now doing a full court press after not practically hearing a peep from him for over a year.

The money is in an a non profit trust. He has a gofundme page with updates regularly. If people feel he's doing something fraudulent they should contact the proper authorities. Im sure they would love to bust Umar for fraud. Curious why it hasnt happened yet since the concerns are "legitimate", all thats happened is tweets. :lol:
 
I guess I understood where Roland was going from. Everyone he named (that were married to white woman) are considered Civil Rights Icons. Don't know the reasons they married white, but a lot of them did it at a time when they could be killed just for looking at white woman, so their was no disillusions about their skin color and how much freedom they did or didn't have. They were knee deep in the struggle for civil rights. They were there for the protests, the arrests, the dog attacks, etc. so to to totally dismiss everything they did because of that one thing seemed a bit much, while at the same time giving his ancestor a pass for doing the same thing.



So i'm confused


If the odds of being killed or physically harmed for marrying a white woman at the time was very high


Then what BENEFIT(s) was being provided by that white woman that commensurates with that level of threat?


Can someone answer that for me?
 
i saw the interview and the woman on there was lost (i noticed she wasn't married either). the young dude was just all over the place and couldn't not articulate very well. the lawyer dude was the only reasonable person on there. Martin I really don't have any comments on.

At this point, until someone put actions to the words they speak, this is all BS

I will continue to do my part via mentoring and practicing group economics (spending money with black business when I can)

I do believe we need to create PACTS and start putting our money behid local candidates that have our best interests in mind. Bascially start buying candidates in my opinon.
 
IMO...
Johnson's using the IR issue to take the attention off of his own issues. Especially in regards to the money peeps gave him for that school.

People have very legitimate questions about where their money is going. And Dude is now doing a full court press after not practically hearing a peep from him for over a year.

Sorry. But going on an Anti-IR rant all of a sudden is a women's move whenever they don't want to be under a microscope.



HEY DUMMY!

My ex-wife is a Black Woman.
My Current Lady is a Black Woman.

Try Again.
I agree with you on the money issue yes he should expect to be questioned on where/what's being done with the money when it was given/donated to open a school and such.
As far as his view/views on IR dating as far back as I can remember has always been the same He is against it. On his personal life issues he doesn't owe anyone a dime bcuz it's his own bizz what he does and with whom and we all should respect that as we would want to be respected on those issues with privacy if that's what he wants or prefers.
 
The money is in an a non profit trust. He has a gofundme page with updates regularly. If people feel he's doing something fraudulent they should contact the proper authorities. Im sure they would love to bust Umar for fraud. Curious why it hasnt happened yet since the concerns are "legitimate", all thats happened is tweets. :lol:

He would've been sitting in a cell next to Jefferson, Kilpatrick, Nagin and the soon to be Brown.
 
Met Umar this weekend at the Caribbean Festival in Baltimore. Seemed like a nice guy. Was happy to take pics with folks including my pops.
 
Met Umar this weekend at the Caribbean Festival in Baltimore. Seemed like a nice guy. Was happy to take pics with folks including my pops.

I met him about 2 years ago. He was cool as a fan, set up his own vendor tables at the event and mingled freely with the people.
 
Met Umar this weekend at the Caribbean Festival in Baltimore. Seemed like a nice guy. Was happy to take pics with folks including my pops.

Heres the thing.

Im sure both Umar and Roland are good people. Both dudes been put in work for our people.
 
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