Ultimate Horror Film Thread

Doesn't Batman have supernatural villains as part of his normal rogues gallery? I thought he did.

Ummmm... yeah nothing too serious

Since Bats isn't really allowed to use magic its mostly gentleman ghost and Solomon Grundy that I would say are part of hos traditional overall roster.

He usually goes to Constantine or the Demon or Zatanna or Deadman or Swamp Thing to handle that.

While this is unfortunately YouTube AI trash...the CONCEPT I like very much.
 
Not to derail but this is a remake I'm a truly shocked hasn't happened yet. And I think if done right? Could be a franchise.
Shonuff prequel series.. The rise of how he became the shogun of this town... Have him be a teen growing up in the late 70s with heroin kingpins, pimps.. Someone killing his pops and make him go from good kid to bad.. Learn martial arts for revenge to take down crime lords and fight the person who killed his pops ( who happens to posses the glow).. He's the darker version of Bruce leroy.. When he about to kill the dude that killed his pops, dude begs for mercy and shonuff says you want mercy? Than kiss my converse( the end) .. Game over
 
Why I Hate Stephen King And Love Stanley Kubrick

I hated Stephen King’s books when they came out and I was in high school. I had to read more than one, just to keep up with the pop culture references. I loathe them even more, today. For me his low point (to date) was writing the teleplay from his book, The Shining for the TV series of the same name (1997). There is no better example of King’s narcissism, hubris and corresponding lack of talent than this laugh out loud effort to ‘correct’ what is arguably the greatest horror film of all time, Stanley Kubrick’s The Shining (1980). The only thing to be said about the television version is that it is indeed faithful to King’s book, while Kubrick’s is not. But that’s exactly the point: King’s writing has always been cloying and soft in the middle, unconsciously mendacious in that uniquely ‘ugly American’ way. At once insipid and preternaturally neurotic, the horrors visited upon Stephen King’s Americans–and they are always stock Americans–are the character flaws and psychological failures of individuals, even when they take an institutional form...
 
At the end, the hosts say they found the ending unintentionally funny, and I agree, but a lot of their viewers disagreed. What do y'all think?
 
These are what are classified as thrillers

In fact Just checked and it is classified as a thriller

that's interesting. A serial killer gruesomely murdering people on repeat is categorized as a thriller?

How is this different from the Collector? Or Friday the 13th? Happy Death Day? Lucky? Scream?

I really don't care like that. but now I'm just a little bit curious on what the industry criteria is?

Update: okay so I asked someone who worked as a booker and a gm. we got slasher thriller horror etc etc it seems is interchangeable with no REAL distinction. Well that settles that. Its all under the HORROR umbrella. There isn’t an official rules cause marketing plays a huge part of the label. Horror is mainly trying to scare you or disturb you mentally. Thrillers are mainly trying to stress you the f**k out with suspense and tension. A slasher is just a type of horror where a killer stalks and kills people one by one, and the kills themselves are a big focus. You can have the exact same serial-killer setup and call it horror or thriller depending on the tone/tones: if it’s about victims trying to survive and the movie leans into fear and gore, it feels more like horror; if it’s more about solving the case or outsmarting the killer, it feels more like a thriller.

@Piff Henderson As usual? Hollywood makes up the rules as it wants and its the fans who stress unnecessarily.

Which the studios even HAPPIER :lol:
 
that's interesting. A serial killer gruesomely murdering people on repeat is categorized as a thriller?

How is this different from the Collector? Or Friday the 13th? Happy Death Day? Lucky? Scream?

I really don't care like that. but now I'm just a little bit curious on what the industry criteria is?

Update: okay so I asked someone who worked as a booker and a gm. we got slasher thriller horror etc etc it seems is interchangeable with no REAL distinction. Well that settles that. Its all under the HORROR umbrella. There isn’t an official rules cause marketing plays a huge part of the label. Horror is mainly trying to scare you or disturb you mentally. Thrillers are mainly trying to stress you the f**k out with suspense and tension. A slasher is just a type of horror where a killer stalks and kills people one by one, and the kills themselves are a big focus. You can have the exact same serial-killer setup and call it horror or thriller depending on the tone/tones: if it’s about victims trying to survive and the movie leans into fear and gore, it feels more like horror; if it’s more about solving the case or outsmarting the killer, it feels more like a thriller.

@Piff Henderson As usual? Hollywood makes up the rules as it wants and its the fans who stress unnecessarily.

Which the studios even HAPPIER :lol:
The bad guys in die hard movies were killers and nobody called them horror flicks.. Just because a killer is in a movie doesn't mean its a horror flick.. a simple plan had a bunch of killing, but its based on suspense, who done it, will people escape, etc.. This has the same thing bad guy stuck in the same day , why, how, can he get out of this scenario.. Not horror , just suspense.. See this modern day shit has pushed movies that shouldn't be into certain genres.. This is why I said the horror genre has went to shit

Also Mr brooks is considered a thriller.. A serial killer trying to teach someone how to be a killer.. There's definitely killing in it, but as I said its considered a thriller and not horror flick, and I would agree
 
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Jeezus I just watched this

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If you like gore done well..this shit is it.whoever the special effects guy or team is they are amazing.
 
that's interesting. A serial killer gruesomely murdering people on repeat is categorized as a thriller?

How is this different from the Collector? Or Friday the 13th? Happy Death Day? Lucky? Scream?

I really don't care like that. but now I'm just a little bit curious on what the industry criteria is?

Update: okay so I asked someone who worked as a booker and a gm. we got slasher thriller horror etc etc it seems is interchangeable with no REAL distinction. Well that settles that. Its all under the HORROR umbrella. There isn’t an official rules cause marketing plays a huge part of the label. Horror is mainly trying to scare you or disturb you mentally. Thrillers are mainly trying to stress you the f**k out with suspense and tension. A slasher is just a type of horror where a killer stalks and kills people one by one, and the kills themselves are a big focus. You can have the exact same serial-killer setup and call it horror or thriller depending on the tone/tones: if it’s about victims trying to survive and the movie leans into fear and gore, it feels more like horror; if it’s more about solving the case or outsmarting the killer, it feels more like a thriller.

@Piff Henderson As usual? Hollywood makes up the rules as it wants and its the fans who stress unnecessarily.

Which the studios even HAPPIER :lol:
A thriller Is a genre of movie Designed to evoke suspense, excitement, And anxiety in the viewer. It is typically fast paced, plot driven story that focusEs on high stakeS conflicts and situations often involving crime, mystery, or espionage. Unlike horror films that rely on Gruesome or supernatural elements, Thrillers primarily use suspense and tension to keep audiences at the edge of their seats

While thrillers can be dark, they generally focus on Suspense rather than explicit gore or jump scares, which are hallmarks of jump scares

Characters Are frequently put in dangerous situations with serious consequences, such as life and death scenarios

I put some of the meaning down that I googled about thriller movie meaning.. Literally it describes this movie
 
A thriller Is a genre of movie Designed to evoke suspense, excitement, And anxiety in the viewer. It is typically fast paced, plot driven story that focusEs on high stakeS conflicts and situations often involving crime, mystery, or espionage. Unlike horror films that rely on Gruesome or supernatural elements, Thrillers primarily use suspense and tension to keep audiences at the edge of their seats

While thrillers can be dark, they generally focus on Suspense rather than explicit gore or jump scares, which are hallmarks of jump scares

Characters Are frequently put in dangerous situations with serious consequences, such as life and death scenarios

I put some of the meaning down that I googled about thriller movie meaning.. Literally it describes this movie

I'm not in disagreement

I'm telling you someone who works in the industry gave me the breakdown of how subjective it is.

There is no "right" answer

But it is wrong to say there is a one concrete definition.

They can flip it whatever whenever or however they want.
 
I'm not in disagreement

I'm telling you someone who works in the industry gave me the breakdown of how subjective it is.

There is no "right" answer

But it is wrong to say there is a one concrete definition.

They can flip it whatever whenever or however they want.
Took a break from the board for the Thanksgiving week so couldn't weigh in on this topic when it was hot...which is probably for the best. lol

But I was just thinking about this topic for myself. About two weeks ago I watched the 1993 film Kalifornia starring David Duchovny, Juliette Lewis, and Brad Pitt who plays a serial killer. On Wikipedia it's listed as a "road thriller" but it won a Saturn award for horror back in the day.

There is no real difference between most thrillers and horror except that the director/writer/producers want the film to be listed under one genre rather than the other.

I also watched The Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 also. That film is listed as a dark comedy. To be Hooper, who directed both 1 and 2, said he thought of the first as a dark comedy too but other people didn't consider it a comedy.
 
Took a break from the board for the Thanksgiving week so couldn't weigh in on this topic when it was hot...which is probably for the best. lol

But I was just thinking about this topic for myself. About two weeks ago I watched the 1993 film Kalifornia starring David Duchovny, Juliette Lewis, and Brad Pitt who plays a serial killer. On Wikipedia it's listed as a "road thriller" but it won a Saturn award for horror back in the day.

There is no real difference between most thrillers and horror except that the director/writer/producers want the film to be listed under one genre rather than the other.

I also watched The Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 also. That film is listed as a dark comedy. To be Hooper, who directed both 1 and 2, said he thought of the first as a dark comedy too but other people didn't consider it a comedy.

^^^^ that part
 
Took a break from the board for the Thanksgiving week so couldn't weigh in on this topic when it was hot...which is probably for the best. lol

But I was just thinking about this topic for myself. About two weeks ago I watched the 1993 film Kalifornia starring David Duchovny, Juliette Lewis, and Brad Pitt who plays a serial killer. On Wikipedia it's listed as a "road thriller" but it won a Saturn award for horror back in the day.

There is no real difference between most thrillers and horror except that the director/writer/producers want the film to be listed under one genre rather than the other.

I also watched The Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 also. That film is listed as a dark comedy. To be Hooper, who directed both 1 and 2, said he thought of the first as a dark comedy too but other people didn't consider it a comedy.
Imo thrillers are usually more grounded where horror is more supernatural or outside of the normal natural world
 
A thriller Is a genre of movie Designed to evoke suspense, excitement, And anxiety in the viewer. It is typically fast paced, plot driven story that focusEs on high stakeS conflicts and situations often involving crime, mystery, or espionage. Unlike horror films that rely on Gruesome or supernatural elements, Thrillers primarily use suspense and tension to keep audiences at the edge of their seats

While thrillers can be dark, they generally focus on Suspense rather than explicit gore or jump scares, which are hallmarks of jump scares

Characters Are frequently put in dangerous situations with serious consequences, such as life and death scenarios

I put some of the meaning down that I googled about thriller movie meaning.. Literally it describes this movie
Of course horror doesn't have to include of any of that. A horror need not be gory, gruesome, have supernatural elements, or include jump scares. Those are common tropes of the genre but not what make the genre.

Horror is any piece of fiction that attempts to evoke fear, dread, and a sense of impending doom from the viewer. It is possible to evoke those emotions without using the above listed tropes.

One thing I would say that's almost universal with horror though is the macabre. Horror focuses on the macabre but it doesn't necessarily portray it graphically.
 
Imo thrillers are usually more grounded where horror is more supernatural or outside of the normal natural world
I agree with this and have argued in the past that's the reason thrillers are generally more scary than horror in a realistic way. Horror is too unrealistic and implausible to be scary in any sense other than the fantastical.

Horror, at its best, gives you the creepy feeling something is watching when you're alone but a thriller can actually make you afraid of real life situations. Meeting a seemingly charming person who ends up being a lunatic is something that can happen in real life.

Films like Cape Fear and Single White Female can really make you cautionary about trusting new people in certain situations.
 
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