Two men arrested within minutes at Starbucks for waiting while black.....

[fonzerrillii]

its.

not.

a.

franchise.

its.

CORPORATE OWNED.

Damn I did not know that...

Learn something new everyday.... Then yeah Starbucks corp is on the hook for this one...

Fucking Baby ass lawyer.... Walked into a fucking Million dollar settlement and probably free coffee for life.

While I'm sitting here hustling for change.

 

[Mixd]

That isn't true... Starbucks is a public establishment

Under Pennsylvania law, there's only two possible types of Trespass that this could be classified as:


(b) Defiant trespasser.--

(1) A person commits an offense if, knowing that he is not licensed or privileged to do so, he enters or remains in any place as to which notice against trespass is given by:

(i) actual communication to the actor;

(ii) posting in a manner prescribed by law or reasonably likely to come to the attention of intruders;

(iii) fencing or other enclosure manifestly designed to exclude intruders;

(iv) notices posted in a manner prescribed by law or reasonably likely to come to the person's attention at each entrance of school grounds that visitors are prohibited without authorization from a designated school, center or program official; or

(v) an actual communication to the actor to leave school grounds as communicated by a school, center or program official, employee or agent or a law enforcement officer.


---- Since this was a public place... He couldn't have been a Defiant Trespasser...

(b.1) Simple trespasser.--

(1) A person commits an offense if, knowing that he is not licensed or privileged to do so, he enters or remains in any place for the purpose of:

(i) threatening or terrorizing the owner or occupant of the premises;

(ii) starting or causing to be started any fire upon the premises; or

(iii) defacing or damaging the premises.

(2) An offense under this subsection constitutes a summary offense.

----- They wouldn't have even fit under simple trespasser.... because Starbucks is public. The question becomes...... did they commit the act of trespassing when they were told to leave and they stayed.


But then they have a defense...


(c) Defenses.--It is a defense to prosecution under this section that:

(1) a building or occupied structure involved in an offense under subsection (a) of this section was abandoned;

(2) the premises were at the time open to members of the public and the actor complied with all lawful conditions imposed on access to or remaining in the premises; or

(3) the actor reasonably believed that the owner of the premises, or other person empowered to license access thereto, would have licensed him to enter or remain.


----- That's why it was key that they didn't act a fool.....

The officers should have approached the scene.... questioned the woman that called, questioned the gentlemen, and then question the witnesses......

Then they should have talked to the manager and told her that they didn't see anything illegal with what the men were doing... and told her that they have every right to be there.

At a minimum... they could have asked the gentlemen to come out side and talk... to attempt a peaceful resolution of this..

That's why people really need to be protesting Philly PD.

People make horseshit 911 calls all the time... and it's up to the officers to make the judgement calls on the field. There is nothing from this video that justifies an arrest.

All this makes a lot of sense as to why I always see the signs on the doors to businesses all the time that say these doors are to remain unlocked during the hours of X to Y. Because public can freely walk in and do whatever there. Hmm...

 

[SPECTRE1]

Alot of ignorant black people think they will just boycott these businesses and they will be in fear. First of all, these Neo Nazi want to eliminate you from their space. After the end of slavery, we have no need to them, they can get the labor they need done overseas.

The Jews in Germany were openly denied service (No Jews Allowed) than 6 million died. Do you think a boycott would have worked, when they wanted them eliminated completely?

When you see a business refusing your money, than it is a red flag. I know if a white customer came into my business, I would be glad to take their money. I am not seething with some genocidal rage. Here they are constantly looking for ways to deny you service or humiliate you in their business.

Their logic is to commit some mass atrocity or sustain genocide of you (Native Americans) than take what assets you have like the Germans did the Jews.

 

[peterlongshort]

That isn't true... Starbucks is a public establishment

Under Pennsylvania law, there's only two possible types of Trespass that this could be classified as:


(b) Defiant trespasser.--

(1) A person commits an offense if, knowing that he is not licensed or privileged to do so, he enters or remains in any place as to which notice against trespass is given by:

(i) actual communication to the actor;

(ii) posting in a manner prescribed by law or reasonably likely to come to the attention of intruders;

(iii) fencing or other enclosure manifestly designed to exclude intruders;

(iv) notices posted in a manner prescribed by law or reasonably likely to come to the person's attention at each entrance of school grounds that visitors are prohibited without authorization from a designated school, center or program official; or

(v) an actual communication to the actor to leave school grounds as communicated by a school, center or program official, employee or agent or a law enforcement officer.


---- Since this was a public place... He couldn't have been a Defiant Trespasser...

(b.1) Simple trespasser.--

(1) A person commits an offense if, knowing that he is not licensed or privileged to do so, he enters or remains in any place for the purpose of:

(i) threatening or terrorizing the owner or occupant of the premises;

(ii) starting or causing to be started any fire upon the premises; or

(iii) defacing or damaging the premises.

(2) An offense under this subsection constitutes a summary offense.

----- They wouldn't have even fit under simple trespasser.... because Starbucks is public. The question becomes...... did they commit the act of trespassing when they were told to leave and they stayed.


But then they have a defense...


(c) Defenses.--It is a defense to prosecution under this section that:

(1) a building or occupied structure involved in an offense under subsection (a) of this section was abandoned;

(2) the premises were at the time open to members of the public and the actor complied with all lawful conditions imposed on access to or remaining in the premises; or

(3) the actor reasonably believed that the owner of the premises, or other person empowered to license access thereto, would have licensed him to enter or remain.


----- That's why it was key that they didn't act a fool.....

The officers should have approached the scene.... questioned the woman that called, questioned the gentlemen, and then question the witnesses......

Then they should have talked to the manager and told her that they didn't see anything illegal with what the men were doing... and told her that they have every right to be there.

At a minimum... they could have asked the gentlemen to come out side and talk... to attempt a peaceful resolution of this..

That's why people really need to be protesting Philly PD.

People make horseshit 911 calls all the time... and it's up to the officers to make the judgement calls on the field. There is nothing from this video that justifies an arrest.

That sounds like the criminal code, I'm referring to civil liability. Trespasser, Licensee, or Business invitee.

 

[BigDaddyBuk]

Damn I did not know that...

Learn something new everyday.... Then yeah Starbucks corp is on the hook for this one...

Fucking Baby ass lawyer.... Walked into a fucking Million dollar settlement and probably free coffee for life.

While I'm sitting here hustling for change.

 

[keone]

Damn I did not know that...

Learn something new everyday.... Then yeah Starbucks corp is on the hook for this one...

Fucking Baby ass lawyer.... Walked into a fucking Million dollar settlement and probably free coffee for life.

While I'm sitting here hustling for change.

Cause they came to you but you agreed with kevin hartand they walked off

 

[Amajorfucup]

Damn I did not know that...

Learn something new everyday.... Then yeah Starbucks corp is on the hook for this one...

Fucking Baby ass lawyer.... Walked into a fucking Million dollar settlement and probably free coffee for life.

While I'm sitting here hustling for change.

I don't see this going 7 figures fonz. Nice chunk of change tho.

 

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[exiledking]

Lol Russell.

 

[Mixd]

Starbucks Closing All US Stores on May 29 for Racial-Bias Training​

The training program is designed to address "implicit bias, promote conscious inclusion and prevent discrimination"
By Alexandra Olson
Published at 6:40 AM EDT on Apr 17, 2018 | Updated 6 minutes ago

Starbucks announced Tuesday that it will close its more than 8,000 U.S. stores to conduct "racial-bias" training amid a racially charged uproar over the arrest of two black men at one of its stores in Philadelphia.

The company said in a press release that the stores and corporate offices will be closed on the afternoon of May 29 to provide training for its nearly 175,000 employees designed to address "implicit bias, promote conscious inclusion and prevent discrimination."

Starbucks enlisted national and local civil rights leaders and organizations, including the Equal Justice Initiative, president of the NAACP Legal Defense Fund, and former U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder, to help develop the training program.

"I've spent the last few days in Philadelphia with my leadership team listening to the community, learning what we did wrong and the steps we need to take to fix it," Starbucks CEO Kevin Johnson said in the release. "While this is not limited to Starbucks, we’re committed to being a part of the solution. Closing our stores for racial bias training is just one step in a journey that requires dedication from every level of our company and partnerships in our local communities."

Starbucks Arrest Backlash Continues

Following the arrest of two black men in a Philadelphia Starbucks last week, the company's CEO came to town to meet with leaders. The store is open Tuesday morning and has been the center of social justice protests from advocates who believe the company apology is not enough.
(Published Tuesday, April 17, 2018)​

Starbucks, which once urged its employees to start conversations about race with customers, has found itself through the looking glass: under fire for its treatment of black people.

The company reacted from a high level: Johnson said the arrests should not have happened and the company said he met with the two men. Starbucks also said the employee who called police no longer works at the store, but declined to give further details.

The episode highlights the risks large corporations run when they tie their brands so closely to social messaging. In 2015, then-CEO Howard Schultz shrugged off the "Race Together" fiasco as well-intention mistake and pressed on with his public efforts to engage in the debate over race in America. His successor Johnson is now scrambling to keep the Philadelphia incident from shattering the message Schultz was going for: Starbucks is a corporation that stands for something beyond profit.

"The more your brand is trying to connect emotionally to people, the more hurt people feel when these kinds of things happen," said Jacinta Gauda, the head of the Gauda Group, a New York-based strategic communications firm affiliated with the Grayling network. "They are breaking a promise. That's what makes it hurt deeper."

Beyond racial relations, Starbucks has staked much of its brand on its dual promise of providing good customer service and treating its employees well, said John Gordon, a restaurant industry analyst with Pacific Management Consulting Group. The Seattle company has a reputation for well-managed stores, "a point of difference that allows them to sell primarily drinks and coffees that have a higher cost," he said.

But in a multinational company with more than 28,000 stores worldwide, there has "to be a situation every day where some human being handles things wrong. You can't have that many employees and not have something stupid happen," Gordon said. "Even with a huge operations manual that lays out what to say and what to do, you can't cover everything."

Starbucks Protests Continue in Center City

More protests took place in Philadelphia following the arrest of two black men inside a Center City Starbucks.
(Published Monday, April 16, 2018)​

Still, Starbucks has set its own high bar.

Last month, the company claimed it had achieved 100 percent pay equity across gender and race for all its U.S. employees and committed to doing the same for its overseas operations, an initiative publicly backed by equality activist Billie Jean King. The company also touts the diversity of its workforce, saying minorities comprise more than 40 percent of its employees in the U.S.

In 2016, Starbucks promised to invest in 15 "underserved" communities across the country, trying to counter an image of a company catering to a mostly white clientele. One of those stores opened in Ferguson, Missouri, the scene of the 2014 protests that erupted following the police shooting of Michael Brown, one of several such killings that moved Schultz to launch the Race Together campaign.

Those efforts are in stark contrast to the video that went viral over the weekend showing the two black men being arrested by police who were called by an employee. Officials have said police officers were told the men had asked to use the store's restroom but were denied because they hadn't bought anything and they refused to leave.

On Monday, about two dozen protesters took over the Philadelphia shop, chanting slogans like, "A whole lot of racism, a whole lot of crap, Starbucks coffee is anti-black." The hashtag #BoycottStarbucks trended on Twitter.

Johnson, who called has called the arrests "reprehensible," arrived in Philadelphia this weekend to personally confront the crisis. He met with the two men Monday, according to a Starbucks representative, who did not give NBC News the details on what happened in the meeting.

Starbucks Apologizes for Arresting 2 Black Men

Starbucks is apologizing after two African-American men were attested at a Center City location. Philadelphia Police Commissioner Richard Ross said that, despite the controversial outcome, Philly police were just doing their job.
(Published Sunday, April 15, 2018)​

"I watched the video, which was hard to watch. That is not what Starbucks is about. That is not representative of our mission, our values and our guiding principles," Johnson said.

Gauda, who has developed workplace inclusion and diversity strategies for corporate clients, cautioned that any unconscious-bias training should not be treated as "special subject" but incorporated as a core part of its employee training. She warned Starbucks against treating Philadelphia as a one-off affair, urging the company to investigate whether there were any warning signs.

"I would suspect that this particular issue is something that has occurred before," Gauda said. "The company is in crisis mode now, but they should not look at this as an isolated issue."

Gauda and other corporate communications experts said they were impressed that Johnson immediately took a hands-on approach to addressing the crisis, saying his efforts would pay off in an age where corporations are under the glare of social media.

"I'm actually surprised he is handling it the way a CEO should be handling it. He went in head first and he took the blame for it," said M.J. McCallum, vice president and creative director of Muse Communications, an advertising and communications agency with an African-American focus. "I definitely applaud that. Most people won't jump on the bomb."

"Starbucks has a great reputation. They stand for a better culture. They have stores in inner cities," McCallum said. "I think he realizes what this one incident can do for his brand."


Associated Press Writer Joe Pisani contributed to this story from New York.


Copyright Associated Press / NBC 10 Philadelphia

https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/national-international/Starbucks-Image-Crisis-After-Philadelphia-Arrests-479966353.html

 

[LordSinister]

I guess boycotts work huh?

 

[fonzerrillii]

I don't see this going 7 figures fonz. Nice chunk of change tho.

Normally I would agree... but the media backlash on this is extreme....

I’ve seen Kats get a million off of a wrongful arrest before. I do think that they would lose if they sued the city... but the city would likely settle for a couple thousand.

I didn’t know that Starbucks didn’t Franchise... they can’t afford a trial where their corporate hiring and training practices are exposed...

Plus these dudes were handcuffed and actually arrested for this... it would be different if the cops just escorted them out. I would allege that Starbucks’ lax training is the cause of the clients harm and ask for 5 million as a form of punishment for the mental stress that my clients endured. Especially if my clients have squeaky clean records... I’d walk the entire arrested phase in front of a jury and make them relive the experience... I think you could make this into a 5 million case... especially when you look at recent video posted on worldstar showing a Starbucks employee not allowing a black man to use the bathroom... even though they just allowed a white man to use it previously. You can make a pattern.

At least this is the story that I’d say to opposing counsel.... Starbucks would not be willing to take that PR hit. So they would like counter with 100k.. I’d laugh.. reduce to 2.5 million. Not take any offers until we get interrogatories... stay firm on my 2.5 when they attempt to counter... and get them to settle at either 1 million or 900k.

This is a no risk trial.. it’s one of those where you don’t have to worry about the Defense making 1000 discovery requests. There’s no medical shit.. no expert shit... all it is bad PR. Just the fact of it going to trial.. is bad PR.

Even if you clients lose the trial... they would win it back due to book deals and the talk circuit. While Starbucks would just have to sit back and take it because ... there would be no nondisclousre agreements if there’s a trial.

Anything less then a million on this.. is giving away money.

This is my dream case...

I mean these brothers were fucking Real estate agents... real estate agents!!!!

You don’t want that on the stand.

 

[SamSneed]

I guess boycotts work huh?

Yes they do

Our money speaks more than our voices.

 

[LordSinister]

Fonz, I'd go for 12 and settle for 3 each guy. Oh, and you wouldn't get more than 20% for this layup.

 

[cnc]

Attorneys have a clearly case of racial bias against the manager and Starbucks at minimum; social media does in another one:

 

[fonzerrillii]

Damn Starbucks is closed all 8,000 US stores on May 29....for racial bias training ..


Nigga... 1 million dollars.

Easy

 

[fonzerrillii]

Attorneys have a clearly case of racial bias against the manager and Starbucks at minimum; social media does in another one:

Man @LordSinister ... dude.. you are right. I’d settle for 3 mill a piece on this.

 

[Amajorfucup]

backlash on this is extreme....

I’ve seen Kats get a million off of a wrongful arrest before. I do think that they would lose if they sued the city... but the city would likely settle for a couple thousand.

Yea the city is good. They had basis for arrest (albeit poor discretion) .. All they can be held liable for is an apology really. No charges were filed and the release was some what immediate so that decreases potential damages they can aim at Starbucks .. But this shit is getting bigger by the day. They need to settle this up asap.

 

[Mixd]

Attorneys have a clearly case of racial bias against the manager and Starbucks at minimum; social media does in another one:

Wow social media dry snitching at it's finest, lol

 

[fonzerrillii]

Yea the city is good. They had basis for arrest (albeit poor discretion) .. All they can be held liable for is an apology really. No charges were filed and the release was some what immediate so that decreases potential damages they can aim at Starbucks .. But this shit is getting bigger by the day. They need to settle this up asap.

Yeah buddy... this Shit is growing like a wild fire and a fucking baby fucking lawyer is on this case. This shit literally fell into her lap.. she knocks this out and she is going to be Fucking rolling in Client calls. You can’t get better advertising then this.. and in a city like Philly too.. man....

 

[phanatic]

Starbucks does not have that specific policy. Some people are just making shit up to be the contrarian in defending Starbucks when they had no legal merit to kick them out. It's a weak defense in an actual court.

Especially since they market themselves as a place to do exactly what those guys were doing.

 

[ansatsusha_gouki]

Fonz, I'd go for 12 and settle for 3 each guy. Oh, and you wouldn't get more than 20% for this layup.

Your sig....

 

[ghoststrike]

Especially since they market themselves as a place to do exactly what those guys were doing.

The news is reporting that Starbucks is closing 8000 stores for "afternoon session in racial bias education"

What in the entire cluster fuck????

All that was needed to be done is to sternly announce zero tolerance for racial profiling and that the manager has been terminated within 24-48 hours of this becoming viral. That would have sent the necessary shockwaves to all the other Starbucks stores like countless other corporations have already done.

But noooo, drag this out with meaningless apology tours and racial sensitivity classes to lose even more profits

 

[TheAlias]

Attorneys have a clearly case of racial bias against the manager and Starbucks at minimum; social media does in another one:

Haven't been following too closely, which is the manager?

 

[code_pirahna]

Look man......That is Rittenhouse Square....AKA "any very UPSCALE white area in any city USA"........

They don t want blacks in those areas even if you order something......period.....

So 2 black men come into the coffee shop AND they haven t ordered....oh they are trying very hard to throw them out.....its pure racism discrimination

 

[code_pirahna]

What they won t tell you is that the reason why the manager was not fired is because she was following company policy......

I d bet money that she got moved to another location

 

[ViCiouS]

 

[donwuan]

 

[Soul On Ice]

Lol at cacs acting oblivious to their racist ways
FoH with this phony store closures

 

[DEETZ181]

Most likely she was fired. This went national and caused a lot of bad press.

 

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[SPECTRE1]

Seriously, this policy was enacted to prevent the homeless from camping out at Starbucks. Many of them are located in cities. In the suburbs this may not be an issue but in city it is a big problem.

This is why you see some places charging money for the bathroom to discourage them from coming in. How would you like to drink your Venti next to somebody that has not bathed in a week?

Dress professionally and you can avoid the problems. Starbucks should design a separate door and entry to the bathroom. The city needs to step up with providing public restrooms downtown to alleviate the strain on businesses.

 

[playahaitian]

Is it too late to have this scene removed?

hours?

They be setting up a temp OFFICE up in there for the ENTIRE day....

writing bullsh*t screen plays

taking meetings (real estate, employment, craigslist, etc)

AND charging they phone and /or ;laptap

AND using WiFi

and NEVER EVER get told a gawd damn thing....

Tell my beautiful Wakanda Princess don't believe the hype

they don't need no f*cking Starbucks

They have cut the Starbucks reference from the TV ads.

 

[jagu]

Yeap I was right.... White dude in the video... whose the guy that the brothers were waiting for ... is a friend of hers..... He called her up and chick hit the lottery.



http://www.fox29.com/cashingin/327199255-video



Also those two years in the game... must have Aged her like 10 years...

She’s in over her head. The news lady was making better legal points than she did.

 

[BitchI'llKillYa]

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