I'm not so sure it's that simple. It's a public place and they really were waiting on someone....
Two men arrested within minutes at Starbucks for waiting while black.....
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I'm not so sure it's that simple. It's a public place and they really were waiting on someone....
And this is who they run to represent them...
Yea you better be you own client and counsel and hope for the best... You on a steady long grind while these niggas just handed a winning lottery ticket over to their granddads slave masters grand daughter who has all of 6 months practice experience.
Yea.. you're clearly missing the point if you think this is a trespass case.
Straight bullshit!
Then cacs have the nerve to wonder why we don't hold the same feelings for the flag as they do, it's because of shit like this and a whole lot of other little shit that happens to black folks each and everyday.
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Yea you better be you own client and counsel and hope for the best... You on a steady long grind while these niggas just handed a winning lottery ticket over to their granddads slave masters grand daughter who has all of 6 months practice experience.
The good news is that I personally know the D.A. here... So I wouldn't worry about the charges, but I'm not a fan of the police commissioner.
Shit would be a glorious settlement. Hell the media exposure alone would be worth the handcuffs. Clients would think that I'm just like them. That's free business.
This chick has only been in the Game 2 fucking YEARS!!!!
GAWD DAMN...... I guarantee that either one of their friends dated one of her friends... or they went to school with her. That's the only thing that I think of for why you would hire a Baby lawyer on this.
But Gawd damn... 2 years.. this chick is fucking Baby..
How many trials could she have possibly even had in 2 years.
https://www.avvo.com/attorneys/19103-pa-lauren-wimmer-4686786.html
A lot of big money lawyers would have taken this shit on for free just for the media exposure. Hell I know the fuck I would.. Straight contingency fee
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Got it. I guess the end result is worth the effort. I don’t drink coffee so I don’t fuck with Starbucks anyway...
Got it. I guess the end result is worth the effort. I don’t drink coffee so I don’t fuck with Starbucks anyway...
Yeap I was right.... White dude in the video... whose the guy that the brothers were waiting for ... is a friend of hers..... He called her up and chick hit the lottery.
http://www.fox29.com/cashingin/327199255-video
Also those two years in the game... must have Aged her like 10 years...
http://www.fox29.com/cashingin/327199255-video
Also those two years in the game... must have Aged her like 10 years...
I usually wait until my full party arrives before I order...I consider that basic class. Is there a rule that states a customer has to buy something within X minutes of walking into the store? I've walked around stores without buying anything, am I trespassing because I didn't buy a shirt or a videogame?
I said this in an earlier post in detail, but it does need to be repeated, because nobody's bringing it up. There was no trespassing in this case, based on this policy.
Exactly
So you’re just going to be obtuse and ignore everything in this thread?
the police do not have the right to enforce racial discrimination.
you are not required to obey a non lawful command given by a police officer.
you are full of shit.
You have to buy something or have the intent to buy. If you say you were there with no intention of making a purchase your invitee status goes out the window. If they ask you to leave your status definitely goes out the window. I’m just responding to that man’s comment, can’t argue with the whole thread today.So you’re just going to be obtuse and ignore everything in this thread?
Starbucks does not have that specific policy. Some people are just making shit up to be the contrarian in defending Starbucks when they had no legal merit to kick them out. It's a weak defense in an actual court.
Let me put this where the goats can get it; there was no trespassing based on the following:
They were not being disorderly, and they were not asleep; therefore, they were not trespassing, and they shouldn't have been arrested. Case closed. Thanks for playing.
The police chief was wrong as well, but he's gonna stick up for his officers no matter what...which could bite him in the ass later.
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good find, did anyone say what happend to the manager... and its not just the manager, its the franchise owner who dictates the type of environment he wants.
and you better believe these managers at these particular starbucks are actin on code that comes from the top down..
You know I'm trying to remove the "Starbucks" as a business and look at the many other businesses that people walk into, linger or loiter for some time and never buy anything and leave. Trespass is a fine line.
The other thing is I remember going to a Starbucks earlier this year. At the beginning of the line, standing there, this white dude with tats all on his face, looking crazy, wasn't ordering, just standing there looking at the menu. The girl at the counter just gave me a funny look like just ignore him and asked can I help you. A cop was sitting there watching the guy the whole time cause he was lookong like he was gonna rob the place or something.
The entire time I ordered, waited and all, the guy stood there and never ordered looking cray and people just went around him and went to the register to order. This incident about these men just reminded me of this and no one asked him to leave or anything with a cop sitting right there.
The other thing is I remember going to a Starbucks earlier this year. At the beginning of the line, standing there, this white dude with tats all on his face, looking crazy, wasn't ordering, just standing there looking at the menu. The girl at the counter just gave me a funny look like just ignore him and asked can I help you. A cop was sitting there watching the guy the whole time cause he was lookong like he was gonna rob the place or something.
The entire time I ordered, waited and all, the guy stood there and never ordered looking cray and people just went around him and went to the register to order. This incident about these men just reminded me of this and no one asked him to leave or anything with a cop sitting right there.
Why Starbucks doesn't franchise
http://www.businessinsider.com/why-starbucks-doesnt-franchise-2016-9
However, despite having more than 24,000 locations worldwide, Starbucks has refused to franchise its standalone stores.
"We don't franchise our stores," Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz said in a WNYC interview on Tuesday. "So much of what we've succeeded in is based on the values and culture of the company, and I never believed we could do that in the franchise system where the people weren't working for the company."
http://www.businessinsider.com/why-starbucks-doesnt-franchise-2016-9
However, despite having more than 24,000 locations worldwide, Starbucks has refused to franchise its standalone stores.
"We don't franchise our stores," Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz said in a WNYC interview on Tuesday. "So much of what we've succeeded in is based on the values and culture of the company, and I never believed we could do that in the franchise system where the people weren't working for the company."
Interview with Starbucks COO Rosalind Brewer
Not a wise business move to keep the Shrek looking racist manager employed (transferred) as the heat turns up nationally. She's an achoring liability as more stories of her past emerge. The business profits lost trumps the fuck out of her salary.
Probably has more to do with legal issues for firing her
These kinds of threads always expose the Stephen ass niggas in our midst
They will allow you to buy up an area of stores tho or expand to an area. As Magic has like 75 stores I believe. But won't allow one guy to buy just one or two.
UPDATE: Just looked this up, he used to own 105 stores and sold it back to the company in 2010 for $27M, so they probably never let anyone else buy after him and solely own all stores. Similar to Chick-fil-A
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That isn't true... Starbucks is a public establishment
Under Pennsylvania law, there's only two possible types of Trespass that this could be classified as:
(b) Defiant trespasser.--
(1) A person commits an offense if, knowing that he is not licensed or privileged to do so, he enters or remains in any place as to which notice against trespass is given by:
(i) actual communication to the actor;
(ii) posting in a manner prescribed by law or reasonably likely to come to the attention of intruders;
(iii) fencing or other enclosure manifestly designed to exclude intruders;
(iv) notices posted in a manner prescribed by law or reasonably likely to come to the person's attention at each entrance of school grounds that visitors are prohibited without authorization from a designated school, center or program official; or
(v) an actual communication to the actor to leave school grounds as communicated by a school, center or program official, employee or agent or a law enforcement officer.
---- Since this was a public place... He couldn't have been a Defiant Trespasser...
(b.1) Simple trespasser.--
(1) A person commits an offense if, knowing that he is not licensed or privileged to do so, he enters or remains in any place for the purpose of:
(i) threatening or terrorizing the owner or occupant of the premises;
(ii) starting or causing to be started any fire upon the premises; or
(iii) defacing or damaging the premises.
(2) An offense under this subsection constitutes a summary offense.
----- They wouldn't have even fit under simple trespasser.... because Starbucks is public. The question becomes...... did they commit the act of trespassing when they were told to leave and they stayed.
But then they have a defense...
(c) Defenses.--It is a defense to prosecution under this section that:
(1) a building or occupied structure involved in an offense under subsection (a) of this section was abandoned;
(2) the premises were at the time open to members of the public and the actor complied with all lawful conditions imposed on access to or remaining in the premises; or
(3) the actor reasonably believed that the owner of the premises, or other person empowered to license access thereto, would have licensed him to enter or remain.
----- That's why it was key that they didn't act a fool.....
The officers should have approached the scene.... questioned the woman that called, questioned the gentlemen, and then question the witnesses......
Then they should have talked to the manager and told her that they didn't see anything illegal with what the men were doing... and told her that they have every right to be there.
At a minimum... they could have asked the gentlemen to come out side and talk... to attempt a peaceful resolution of this..
That's why people really need to be protesting Philly PD.
People make horseshit 911 calls all the time... and it's up to the officers to make the judgement calls on the field. There is nothing from this video that justifies an arrest.
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