***Tripster's 2008 Investments (Ongoing thread)***

Volume is very high on POT and MOS.

A lot of profit taking.

Remember, sell on financial reports and buy on news/speculation.


As I always say, in this period of time we are in, do NOT fall in love with the stock, fall in love with the profit and act accordingly (take some off the table).


All the best.

It's a good rule if you're speculating but I don't know about that if you're investing.

It looks like the rest of the market followed that advice. Big selloff, then get back in with the same plays (maybe even short it on the way down!). I should have listened and sold my MOS when it hit $140. Now I'll have to wait for it to creep back up. Might have to wait a bit longer on AGU--$81.85 in after-hours :angry:.
 
Pull up any chart on the AGs, now if you look whenever they hit new 52 week highs, there came a substantial dip, only to then rally in the coming week or two to even new highs. Its hard to pick a top, it's easy to set a stop loss...but, even then you may miss the bigger upside. If you think AGs are weak, then certianly sell into the selloff, but if you think they are to go higher, hold your stock..some chase the quick dollar, some can hold out.
 
Peace fam,

want to thank the brothers in this thread, have made a few bucks in the market as of late, got in on the visa IPO and I copped 500 shares of ford a while back at 5 something a share.

Want to know what the brothers think of countrywide since they will be getting bought out by bank of america in the third quarter of this year.

peace
 
Wow, what a day!!. Visa shot up and even my dead Fannie Mae woke up, so did my POT and IPI.

Visa's earnings report drops on Monday. What's your strategy, if you're holding Visa?
 
with the rise of gas not showing a sign of let down anywhere in the near future,.....it's wise to invest in corn and ethanol producing companies right about now.
 
Wow, what a day!!. Visa shot up and even my dead Fannie Mae woke up, so did my POT and IPI.

Visa's earnings report drops on Monday. What's your strategy, if you're holding Visa?

For me im holding visa long term or until it hit +50% and then ill pull if i see something else i want. I already got 50% of my visa out @ 13% so im holding but ill be watching to see how the stock moves based on the reports which im sure will be up. I got out of coinz/w today then that biitch went up end of the day lol oh well im going to cop some calm and cnog monday i think
 
Dope day. Im starting to feel good about my Visa now. I didnt get in on MOS and POT yesterday, thought they might dip a little more. What do you guys think? Get in now? Is it going to climb again? or is another dip coming?
 
Dope day. Im starting to feel good about my Visa now. I didnt get in on MOS and POT yesterday, thought they might dip a little more. What do you guys think? Get in now? Is it going to climb again? or is another dip coming?

man look back somebody said Pot had control of its pricing and demand thats a keeper, I thought someone said it would go for 300 i THINK its ok to get in but im not one of the pros by no means
 
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Dope day. Im starting to feel good about my Visa now. I didnt get in on MOS and POT yesterday, thought they might dip a little more. What do you guys think? Get in now? Is it going to climb again? or is another dip coming?

Depends on whether your strategy is long term or short term. If its long term, both are good plays. If its short term, then you may want to wait for a dip in price for POT, and a further dip for MOS.
 
Dope day. Im starting to feel good about my Visa now. I didnt get in on MOS and POT yesterday, thought they might dip a little more. What do you guys think? Get in now? Is it going to climb again? or is another dip coming?

http://biz.yahoo.com/ibd/080424/feature.html?.v=1

POT-300/OIL-130 GAS-$4.25
All coming soon to a poverty stricken nation near you.
SUncor is moving in great correlation to oil prices.
POT has a history of making new highs, then dipping, then pushing back up to new highs, it may come under 200 but same way it could eb 225 in a blink & run of another 14 of 15 uptick days,,300 will happen ....thier 2008 guidance was spectacular. IPI looks to be a nice buyout play,,

"On Thursday, the fertilizer-and-feed-products company said first-quarter earnings nearly tripled. Potash raised its full-year earnings guidance by $150.0 million and said it would invest $4.5 billion in production improvements, enabling the company to better meet increased demand for fertilizer and animal feed"
 
i think i might buy some shares in countrywide...

so do you guys use e-trade or what?

how much do i need to put up to start trading?

im in with tradeking.com but they dont do futures so ill be on zecco for that soon plus they give you 10 free trades a month if you have 2500 with them so i might do that since thats about as many trades i do in a month might as well keep the $$$$ where I can.

Fellas I saw news on oil on sunday that BP had a line shut down from a strike and I would expect that to shoot oil through the roof and I know we have called a few stocks that move with or against it

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/markets_oil_dc;_ylt=ApeGmfhXPK2MyRh6FgHlQlis0NUE
 
im in with tradeking.com but they dont do futures so ill be on zecco for that soon plus they give you 10 free trades a month if you have 2500 with them so i might do that since thats about as many trades i do in a month might as well keep the $$$$ where I can.

Fellas I saw news on oil on sunday that BP had a line shut down from a strike and I would expect that to shoot oil through the roof and I know we have called a few stocks that move with or against it

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/markets_oil_dc;_ylt=ApeGmfhXPK2MyRh6FgHlQlis0NUE

Damn them Nigerians raiding police stations to get there point across. I dont think the federal reserve cares how high oil goes. While we complain someone profits. Thanks for sharing this.
 
Well COINZ shows some strength. AGU seems to show support around $85. Come on PAL:angry:

and how pissed am i that i pulled out on coinz and COINW!!!!!!! fukk looking back it was so stupid to do that on a friday KNOWING people sell off on friday DAMN i feel dumb lol coinw was up 15% today Z like 12 so far

Glad to contribute Off, I thought it might have some influence on oil and it did.
 
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So much excitement on VISA today, I hope earnings are outstanding. There is all upgrade news about it today. Earnings drop tonight.
 
and how pissed am i that i pulled out on coinz and COINW!!!!!!! fukk looking back it was so stupid to do that on a friday KNOWING people sell off on friday DAMN i feel dumb lol coinw was up 15% today Z like 12 so far

Glad to contribute Off, I thought it might have some influence on oil and it did.

COIN is so eratic it is one of the hardest stocks to figure out what is going on, the stock has been beaten down since it topped out at 16 or so , then its been beat down to under 9. The prospect that thier plant is on schedule and getting some press coverage has it bucking the AG profit taking & short covering. The AGs over the past few sessions have gone back to the high fluctuation days where you see a huge spread low to high, POT it seems is being looked at hard by the IBanks, as some have moved thier buy positon to hold or less agresisve, that being said, I still think there is bountiful shorts who will cover in these range & hope the stock can regain some traction, the Feds meeting will subdue any rally this week.

All the AGS seems to be closing near lows...
 
if the good news makes it dip im buying more of it lol

Well, earnings just got released and they beat their estimates quite well. However, afterhours numbers look bad. It went down to $71.00, I hope it's just from people skimming profits:confused:

I better not start poppin' Cristal yet:lol::lol:
 
Well I hope to profit from the COIN... COINZ... COINW...trend this time since I missed out last time around. Im still being patient with TITN. Earnings report today but decided not to jump in before hand.
Props to the man who dropped the pick SKNY at around .12 Its now at .35!
 
My dumb ass dumped COINZ early this morning as soon as it went green to buy some more Visa in anticipation of the news today. Fuck, COINZ went up 20% and Visa went down, somebody kick me in the balls hahahahaha. Shoulda just copped the Visa on margin and got rid of it when I didn't see any action. COINZ woulda sponsored my vacation this summer lol. Will hold onto Visa for the long term and see what happens though.

Still doing the wash and rinse with AMD, buy around $5.85-$5.95 and sell around $6.05 - $6.15 or higher. I know it's risky and irresponsible, but it's a stable few bucks to pad up my Zecco account with them free trades and make a lil money till I really get the hang of these charts and trends. Gotta be a little more patient too!
 
My dumb ass dumped COINZ early this morning as soon as it went green to buy some more Visa in anticipation of the news today. Fuck, COINZ went up 20% and Visa went down, somebody kick me in the balls hahahahaha. Shoulda just copped the Visa on margin and got rid of it when I didn't see any action. COINZ woulda sponsored my vacation this summer lol. Will hold onto Visa for the long term and see what happens though.

Still doing the wash and rinse with AMD, buy around $5.85-$5.95 and sell around $6.05 - $6.15 or higher. I know it's risky and irresponsible, but it's a stable few bucks to pad up my Zecco account with them free trades and make a lil money till I really get the hang of these charts and trends. Gotta be a little more patient too!

yea but at least you didnt already have the shiit and SOLD FRIDAY!
 
not too familiar w/ them. Not sure i like the reverse split they just did, usually not a good sign. There are better ones in that price range...CAGC,CNOA.

COIN,,,
COIN could be a big winner if they launch thier business intot he right media coverage on the East Coast.

Ok thanks. Yeah COIN has got my attention! Thing is I am down 3 out of 4 positions right now. I decided to let go TGB that is where I will take the least loss. Need to free up some funds. Much respect to everyone still long PAL as well as myself...it is gut wrenching:puke:
 
can anybody tell me whats going on with POT, im lossing my ass with that stock :smh:

regarding aLL AGS.....


Fertilizer Stocks Look Ripe For Correction
Last update: 4/29/2008 11:49:51 AM


By Rob Curran
Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES


NEW YORK (Dow Jones)--Growth this fast just isn't natural.
Momentum traders appear to have artificially inflated stocks in the fertilizer business recently, creating what looks like a miniature version of the speculative technology bubble.
For weeks, shares of fertilizer makers like Potash of Saskatchewan Inc. (POT), Agrium Inc. (AGU), Mosaic Co. (MOS), CF Industries Holdings Inc. (CF) and Sociedad Quimica y Minera de Chile SA (SQM) rose day in and day out - both when reports of higher fertilizer prices surfaced and when they didn't. In the last 12 months, Mosaic has almost quadrupled in price, Potash and CF Industries have roughly tripled, and Chile's SQM has nearly doubled.
The stocks had their biggest dip in months last Thursday even after Potash raised its 2008 profit projection by more than one third. Recent buyers appear to be hedge funds and other momentum traders - fickle investors by definition - increasing the concern that corrections on Thursday and early this week may be just the prelude to a sharper drop.
"The stocks in the fertilizer group are somewhat dislocated from the fundamentals, but it's hard to game it," said Christopher Altschul, chief investment officer for hedge fund manager Highlander Fund Management.
Altschul's fund counted Chile's SQM as its largest holding on Dec. 31, but has since sold its entire stake. When the stock blew through Altschul's target price, he effectively rated it and the other fertilizer stocks "avoid."
"It was hard to watch this month and know that you're not there, but (Thursday) I was relieved. I would have had a bit of a tantrum seeing the performance on the earnings side and then the stock performance," Altschul said.
Unquestionably, the fertilizer business is growing fast and may well continue to do so. Prices of many foodstuffs are moving upward as biofuel is eating up supply and inflation is spreading from oil and other commodities. That has allowed makers of the specialty chemicals to demand higher prices amid limited production capacity.


High Barrier Of Entry
Of the three principal types of fertilizer, two are based on minerals - phosphate and potash, making entry into the business almost impossible for companies without reserves of these materials. Potash, a potassium compound, is particularly scarce, and is mined in only a handful of countries worldwide, notably Canada. In April, Chinese company Sinofert Holdings Ltd. (0297.HK) agreed to pay a group of producers active in Canada, including Potash Corp. of Saskatchewan, Mosaic, and Agrium, more than triple last year's price for potash - $576 a ton, compared with $176 a ton a year earlier. For fertilizers based on ammonia or nitrogen, however, the raw material is natural gas, and the recent spike in that commodity could hurt costs in that business.

Though their specialties vary, Potash of Saskatchewan, Mosaic, SQM and Agrium all do business in each of the three categories of fertilizer. While profit growth for these companies is currently robust, their profits have ebbed and flowed in the past with the price of the chemicals they sell. Potash of Saskatchewan expects its earnings to triple in 2008 to between $9.50 and $10.50 a share from $3.40 a share in 2007. There's always the risk that profit growth will slow, or start to decline, as occurred between 1999 and 2003. Yet the stocks are trading at valuations that anticipate profit growth will last indefinitely.
For example, SQM, the Chilean fertilizer maker, closed Monday with a valuation of 37.8 times expected 2008 profit and 33 times expected 2009 profit, compared with 30 times and 24 times for Google. Unlike the fertilizer stocks, the great expectations for Google's growth are not based on volatile chemical prices.


Charts Like Tech Companies


Five-year charts of Potash, SQM, and Mosaic closely resemble those of fast-growing tech companies like Intel Corp. (INTC) and Microsoft Corp. (MSFT) in the run-up to the dot.com bust of 2000 to 2001: a steady upward slope, followed by several months of increasingly steep gradient. It took Potash from early 2003 until the end of 2006 to go from $10 to $48, and only another year for it to reach $144. Since the start of 2008, the stock has surged from there to peak at $216 on April 23.
"From my point of view, Potash is vulnerable," said Carter Worth, chief market technician at Oppenheimer & Co. "A stock that trades on a 45-degree angle can keep going up forever, but once that angle changes...it's extended. It happened to Apple, it happened to Croc's.
Now you're getting into that situation wiath Potash, and the presumption is a setback is imminent."
With that in mind, Worth recommended a short bet on Potash, in anticipation of a fall.
The April 22 debut of Intrepid Potash Inc. (IPI) was another echo of the dot.com boom - the breathless clamor among investors to get in on the ground floor of an initial public offering. Intrepid, the largest U.S. potash producer, rose more than 57% on the first day of trading after the shares priced above the expected range.
It's notoriously difficult to time the end of a speculative run-up precisely because the reversal is usually so sudden and swift.
"It's like someone cried 'fire!' in a crowded theater," said Tobias Levkovich, the U.S. equity strategist at Citigroup who has compared the action in commodity stocks to dot.coms and home builders in times past. "It's difficult to get out of the way, and people can get trampled."
At least one market participant expects a sharp correction to come sooner rather than later, however.
Lorenzo Di Mattia, manager of hedge fund Sibilla Global Fund, said a pattern in Thursday and Monday's trading could return with a vengeance in the next few weeks. On Thursday, the dollar abruptly strengthened against the euro on sentiment that the European Central Bank could cut rates more aggressively than the Federal Reserve. As the dollar spiked, the price of oil slipped and traders ditched commodity shares of all description - including those of fertilizer makers.
"These are the ingredients that usually appear before a reversal, which I expect in the next several weeks.... commodities down, dollar up," Di Mattia said.
-By Rob Curran, Dow Jones Newswires; 201-938-5176; robert.curran@dowjones.com
(END) Dow Jones Newswires
April 29, 2008 11:49 ET (15:49 GMT)
 
Why is every body quiet on VISA. It is SHOWING OUT today. It's the only good news in my portfolio right now.:confused:
 
Why is every body quiet on VISA. It is SHOWING OUT today. It's the only good news in my portfolio right now.:confused:

Be leery of how quickly tides can change in this market, It seems stocks are moving heavy into earnings w/o regard for what the earnings are. V&MA are both at or near 52 week highs, there's either a correction near or a new 52 week high....best of luck if you're a near term trader in both, long term holders will be fine but massive fluacuations will start to become the norm once the prices get big enough....(look at the AGs as prime examples)....

Fed meeting tommorow could TANK all commodities...
 
Be leery of how quickly tides can change in this market, It seems stocks are moving heavy into earnings w/o regard for what the earnings are. V&MA are both at or near 52 week highs, there's either a correction near or a new 52 week high....best of luck if you're a near term trader in both, long term holders will be fine but massive fluacuations will start to become the norm once the prices get big enough....(look at the AGs as prime examples)....

Fed meeting tommorow could TANK all commodities...

I have a 15% trailing order to sell:lol:
 
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