Trayvon Martin - The Trial

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Re: What Everyone Should Know About Trayvon Martin (1995-2012)


Trayvon Martin's parents ready to
let jury decide fate of son's killer



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I've had MSNBC's coverage of the trial on in the background in my office as I "try" to write a brief, draft several pleadings and several other things, simultaneously, -- but something amazing appears to be happening that "I" have never noticed before.

The witness has been Miss Rachel Jentel,

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who describes herself as "just a friend" of Trayvon's and being the girl on the phone and last person to talk to him on the day he was killed.

The interesting thing is the divergent reactions of the talking heads to Knock-Knock Don West's

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cross examination of Miss Jentel.

I couldn't help but notice (and in my view, welcome) the colloquy between Lisa Bloom,


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ON THE ONE HAND;

and several other MSNBC's special guest attorneys (most of whom were black or non-white) ON THE OTHER HAND, including:


the fine-ass Tamron Hall,

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the vivacious and smart (and I bet she gotta a big azz) Joy-Ann Reid,

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Marti Bashir

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Touré

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and a few others "of colour" -- whose opinions, view or understanding of Miss Jentil's testimony, especially her credibility, broke down along racial/ethnic lines. The talking heads of colour saw her testimony one way -- and Lisa Bloom, just the opposite on almost every point.

To me, it was not so much that the talking heads differed, but I don't recall seeing the talking heads' view points actually breakdown so testily and dramatic, on screen, along color/ethnic lines.

just an observation.
 
I wonder if this will be the CATALYST to wake black people from their slumber that everything IS NOT gonna be alright if they just keep bowing their heads and doing as their told.
 

In Defense of Rachel Jeantel​
After days of mocking comments, viewers of the Zimmerman
trial speak out in defense of the prosecution's star witness.​


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(The Root) -- The George Zimmerman murder trial has captured the nation's attention since it began. When Rachel Jeantel, the last person to speak with Trayvon Martin (aside from Zimmerman), took the stand, it ignited a dialogue on race, class and the cultural shaming of our own.

Many people have been very critical of the way Jeantel speaks -- her subject-verb agreement, her Southern accent, her tendency to say "axe" instead of "ask." Speech is a cultural marker often used to highlight one's otherness. The problem with "improper speech" is not that people who speak in such tongues cannot be understood. It's that they speak in a way that makes others uncomfortable; that it forces people to acknowledge and deal with an otherness that they may otherwise prefer to step around. It is an otherness that makes whites uncomfortable and, apparently, shames blacks to the point of publicly attacking Jeantel for who she is.

In discussing Jeantel's testimony, news anchors made sure to point out that she wasn't using "the queen's English," harped on the defense's inability to understand her and questioned whether she understood her importance to the trial. On Twitter, black folks said much of the same but also called her fat, ridiculed her complexion and made memes mocking her.

Writer Sherri Williams of the website Backbone compiled a Storify of some of Good, bad and ugly tweets about Rachel Jeantel and further noted: "The black respectability police pondered if her father is in her life. They said if George Zimmerman is acquitted it would be her fault because of her sassy attitude. Black folks said girls like Jeantel are the type to keep away from their children."

The important context of what Jeantel has been forced to endure both on the stand and on the night that she last talked to Trayvon Martin has been cast aside, the importance of her emotions and humanity stripped from her. Oh, the extremes to which some black folk will go to distance themselves from the lot of us in the name of looking like the right kind of black. I can't say it better than Michael Arceneaux did: "I'm embarrassed for you uppity Negroes going out of your way to live up to standards imposed by those who'll never respect you."

If there is a light at the end of this self-hating tunnel, it lies within the contingent of black Twitter that has spoken up to defend Jeantel and has been doing so since her testimony started. Here's to those who never forgot that she is a human being.

"Half of y'all making fun of the way Rachel speaks cannot speak (or write or blog) any better. Don't make me call you out."

— auntie crissle (@crissles) June 27, 2013

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The scrutiny and attention paid to Jeantel has not gone unnoticed on Twitter. Struggling Olympian Lolo Jones, known mostly for her off-the-field controversies and athletic inconsistency, brought the wrath of many twitter users when she compared Jeantel to the Tyler Perry character "Madea" tweeting:

Rachel Jeantel looked so irritated during the cross-examination that I burned it on DVD and I'm going to sell it as Madea goes to court."​

Twitter users empathizing with the difficulty of Jeantel's situation quickly set Jones' mentions ablaze with tweets voicing their displeasure with her untimely, and unsympathetic tweet.




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Cast down your bucket to rachel jeantel

CAST DOWN YOUR BUCKET TO RACHEL JEANTEL
by SONNIE JOHNSON
27 Jun 2013

The Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman trial has sparked massive outrage on both sides of the political field. While I refuse to insert myself into the repetitive racial competition between the right and the left, I would like to take a moment to speak on Rachel Jeantel, the prosecution’s 19-year-old star witness whose rough behavior and inability to read cursive have captured headlines.

Speaking to Tea Parties all around the country, I've been called out a time or two for my grammar. I've had people come to me and say, "You are wonderful. If you just go to college..."; or "I've seen you speak a dozen times; you would be perfect if..."; And my personal favorite: "You are a little rough around the edges, but if you..."

My reply: "I love rubbing people the wrong way. I'll keep my rough edges."

In 1895, Booker T. Washington delivered his Atlanta Exposition Address. In his speech, he said:

A ship lost at sea for many days suddenly sighted a friendly vessel. From the mast of the unfortunate vessel was seen a signal, "Water, water; we die of thirst." The answer from the friendly vessel at once came back, "Cast down your bucket where you are."

For every Republican and conservative that preaches the need for minority outreach, if you cast down your bucket where you are, you will meet Rachel Jeantel—and hundreds just like her. And, yes, hundreds like Trayvon Martin as well. We can't start from where we should be; we must start from where we are.

This is the Black America the left has created. This is where I, and a lot of other black conservatives, have cast down our buckets. President Obama was mocked when he said if he had a son, he would look like Trayvon Martin. Well, Rachel Jeantel reminds me of my sister, my cousin, my best friend, my aunt, and the lady that lives down the block.

After an appearance before Congress in 2007, David Banner gave this assessment:

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I have chosen to cast my bucket into the underbelly of America. I am not afraid to admit it exists. Nor am I afraid I won't be welcome. I've cast my bucket to the hustlers, the money-makers, the go-getters, and the get up, get out, and get something “Outkast.”

These are the capitalists of the street. And they are killing themselves because they haven't been offered creative capitalism. We refuse to let down our buckets.

I've chosen to cast down my bucket to the single mom that can squeeze a dollar out of fifteen cents. She knows how to live within her means. She knows she can't spend more than she makes. She knows she must sacrifice now for her kids to have a better life later. It doesn't matter how many baby daddies she has. She is the fiscal conservative. She would fight against the debt and deficit, if we would only cast down our bucket.

I've chosen to cast down my bucket to the youth that have grown up in the digital age. Whether one likes his music or not, rapper Soulja Boy turned the computer in his basement into a career. These young, black youth are hitting the web and finding legal, entrepreneurial means to make money. When they reach success, they take their family with them. They lower government dependency not by force but by choice. These are the reformers we need.

Damn it, cast down your bucket!

Yes, they sound like me. They are just like me. If I am to be cheered, then we have to cast down our buckets. We must cast down our buckets to the felons, the drug dealers, the illiterate, the struggling, the lost, and the newly found. They are living in the new American slavery and our job is to show them the path that leads to freedom.

Or was I wrong?

Before the liberal race-baiters jump, let me pre-empt. You won't run me away from freedom, capitalism, or conservative principles with your racial baiting. My bucket is off limits to you. You have led 50 years of failure in the black community. Your water is poison.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/06/27/Cast-Down-Your-Bucket-to-Rachel-Jeantel
 
I don't know if George Zimmerman committed murder, it is more like manslaughter and stupidity. I don't believe his intent was to kill since he called police. He is finished either way with the people that will harass him daily and death threat him up. There are too many losers out there that can make his life miserable. There is no way he can buy a house and be safe.

There are alot of 'creepy ass crackas' that overly obsess, spy, and observe about what minorities are doing for some reason. A white person can commit massive fraud for years stealing billions of dollars, while a black person would be shut down in two weeks.

George Zimmerman could easily voice match by going back to the scene with the same phone and pulling the recording from the 911 system to match the voice that is heard. That is what I would do to prove my innocence.
 
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Trayvon's Stepmom:
Zimmerman Didn't Profile Him Because He Was Black

Says She was married to Trayvon's father at time of his death; and
that Trayvon lived with her most of the time, not biological mother



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On Friday, Alicia Stanley, Trayvon Martin's stepmother, appeared on CNN’s Anderson Cooper 360, saying that she didn't think George Zimmerman profiled Martin because he was black. She also shared that she'd been shunned at the teen's funeral, and that she wanted to make sure the public knew that she was a factor in Martin's young life.





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Creepy ass crackas, noun- when one member of one racial group overly obsesses about the activities of different racial group without cause or merit. They are distrustful of other racial groups and trustful of people in their racial group without any factual basis.

It can manifest itself as surveillance, background checking, following, calling law enforcement when there is no illegal activity being undertaken. This person generates excessive fear and andrenalin when another racial group is in their presence due to their limited exposure.

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The law is poorly written and should be changed to deal with a situation like this. George Z was acting as a security guard, almost as law enforcement. Trayvon rightfully perceived GZ as a threat without any identification as being security. There should be an exception in the Stand your Ground law to deal with a person that does not identify himself and is acting as security/law enforcement capacity.

If he was wearing a security uniform or Security T Shirt, this would have avoided a confrontation. I have
had trash follow me around to harass, timing white cars, I feel like ripping their head off, when it is a man. A younger guy would not have the restraint, your fight/flight response kick in and you are ready to hurt..

He is going to get convicted manslaughter and serve time. When he comes out he won't be a danger to the community because he will be a felon unable to buy a gun. The good thing that may come out of it, is preventing another situation like this because of the publicity.
 
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Lest We Forget Who Is On Trial!

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Trayvon Martin
1. Was an honor student with a 3.7 GPA.
2. Was accepted at a college on a full ride
3. Was a volunteer of 600 service hours
4. Was a devoted member of his church
5. Was a loyal friend & a loving son
6. Was an INNOCENT boy
 
After lieing about the college course in Stand Your Ground Law, this guy instigated a conflict with a conceal carry. The lie gives a clue to his intent, he wanted to hide the fact that he knew the law quite well.

The other person would not know before it was too late after being badgered and harass purposely to start a fight. Looking for my address bullshit.a

I could come up and follow somebody aggressively with a conceal carry. After this person pounds your head rightfully into the pavement, I commit murder and get away with it, a big flaw in the law.
 
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George Zimmerman Could Face Life or 25 Years Without Parole

George Zimmerman Could Face Life or 25 Years Without Parole
By LAUREN PEARLE | Good Morning America
14 hours ago

George Zimmerman was tried for the charge of second degree murder for killing Trayvon Martin, but the judge today said the jury can consider an alternate, lesser charge of manslaughter.

Judge Debra Nelson rejected the prosecution's request to include other charges for the jury to consider that included aggravated assault and felony murder in which the underlying felony would be child abuse for shooting Martin, who was 17.

For the jury of six women to find Zimmerman guilty of second degree murder they must determine that he did something "imminently dangerous" and acted with a "depraved mind without regard to human life," according to Florida statutes. They have to find that Zimmerman acted with "ill will, hatred, spite or an evil intent."

If convicted of second degree murder, Zimmerman will be sentenced to a minimum of 25 years without parole and a maximum of life in prison if the jury also makes a "special finding" that a gun was an "essential element" of the crime.

Without that special finding that he used a gun, Zimmerman could be sentenced to anywhere from 17 to 30 years in prison.

If he is found not guilty of second degree murder, then the jury can consider an alternative, lesser charge of manslaughter.

Manslaughter in Florida means killing someone through extreme negligence. Even if Zimmerman didn't intend to kill Martin, it means he acted "with utter disregard" to Martin's safety, his actions were "gross and flagrant," and he showed an "indifference to consequences."

The jury would also have to find that Zimmerman intended to do something that he knew or should have known could kill Martin.

A manslaughter conviction could bring up to a 30 year prison sentence assuming the jury makes a "special finding" that a gun was an "essential element" of the crime. If the jury does not make a "special finding," his sentence would likely be between 10 to 15 years.

If jurors believe that Zimmerman shot Martin in self-defense, then he should be acquitted under either charge. Self-defense means that Zimmerman believed that Martin would kill or gravely injure him, even if he was mistaken, and that belief was "reasonable" given the circumstances and what Zimmerman knew at the time.

http://gma.yahoo.com/george-zimmerm...s-without-183058274--abc-news-topstories.html
 
George Zimmerman Juror Says He 'Got Away With Murder'

George Zimmerman Juror Says He 'Got Away With Murder'
By ALYSSA NEWCOMB | Good Morning America
1 hour 18 minutes ago

The only minority on the all-female jury that voted to acquit George Zimmerman said today that Zimmerman "got away with murder" for killing Trayvon Martin and feels she owes an apology Martin's parents.

"You can't put the man in jail even though in our hearts we felt he was guilty," said the woman who was identified only as Juror B29 during the trial. "But we had to grab our hearts and put it aside and look at the evidence."

She said the jury was following Florida law and the evidence, she said, did not prove murder.

The court had sealed the jurors' identities during the trial and still hasn't lifted the order, but Juror B29 edged out of the shadows in an exclusive interview with "Good Morning America" anchor Robin Roberts. She allowed her face to be shown, but -- concerned for her safety -- used only a first name of Maddy.

The nursing assistant and mother of eight children was selected as a juror five months after she had moved to Seminole County, Fla., from Chicago.

All six of the jurors were women and Maddy, 36, who is Puerto Rican, was the only minority to deliberate in the racially charged case. Zimmerman, 29, was a white Hispanic and Martin, 17, was black.

Despite the prosecution's claim the Zimmerman profiled Martin because he was black, Maddy said the case was never about race to her, although she didn't want to speak for her fellow jurors.

But her feelings about Zimmerman's actions are clear.

"George Zimmerman got away with murder, but you can't get away from God. And at the end of the day, he's going to have a lot of questions and answers he has to deal with," Maddy said. "[But] the law couldn't prove it."


When the jury of six women—five of them mothers—began deliberations, Maddy said she favored convicting Zimmerman of second degree murder, which could have put him in prison for the rest of his life. The jury was also allowed to consider manslaughter, a lesser charge.

"I was the juror that was going to give them the hung jury. I fought to the end," she said.

However, on the second day of deliberations, after spending nine hours discussing the evidence, Maddy said she realized there wasn't enough proof to convict Zimmerman of murder or manslaughter under Florida law.

Zimmerman concedes he shot and killed Martin in Sanford on Feb. 26, 2012, but maintains he fired in self-defense.

"That's where I felt confused, where if a person kills someone, then you get charged for it," Maddy said. "But as the law was read to me, if you have no proof that he killed him intentionally, you can't say he's guilty."

When asked by Roberts whether the case should have gone to trial, Maddy said, "I don't think so."

"I felt like this was a publicity stunt. This whole court service thing to me was publicity," she said.

As a mother, Maddy said she has had trouble adjusting to life after the verdict, and has wrestled with whether she made the right decision.

"I felt like I let a lot of people down, and I'm thinking to myself, 'Did I go the right way? Did I go the wrong way?'" she said.

"As much as we were trying to find this man guilty…they give you a booklet that basically tells you the truth, and the truth is that there was nothing that we could do about it," she said. "I feel the verdict was already told."

Maddy said she has sympathy for Martin's parents and believes she, too, would continue the crusade for justice if this had happened to her son.

She said she believes she owes Trayvon Martin's parents an apology because she feels "like I let them down."

"It's hard for me to sleep, it's hard for me to eat because I feel I was forcefully included in Trayvon Martin's death. And as I carry him on my back, I'm hurting as much [as] Trayvon's Martin's mother because there's no way that any mother should feel that pain," she said.

Maddy is the second juror to speak in a televised interview, and the first to show her face.

Juror B37, whose face and body were hidden, appeared last week on Anderson Cooper's CNN show, and said that she believes Zimmerman's "heart was in the right place" when he became suspicious of Martin and that the teenager probably threw the first punch.

Since then, four other jurors distanced themselves from B37's remarks and released a statement saying B37's opinions were "not in any way representative" of their own.

http://gma.yahoo.com/george-zimmerman-juror-says-got-away-murder-180513862--abc-news-topstories.html
 
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