TOO MANY students run from the "hard" classes ... Neil deGrasse Tyson on Calculus
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How far along are you?
How much time you willing to put in? Lol.
Ultimately, that’s what it boils down to. There will be some topics you’ll breeze through and their will be others that feel like you’re fighting Tyson...multiple times.
It’s the Tyson fights where practicing and patience comes into play. I always told my students,’if you ain’t dreaming about math when you sleep, then you ain’t down enough of it.
Calculus was easy. Now that fucking trigonometry in 7th, shiiiiit bad fucking idea. Linear Algebra was a problem for me big time and oddly fucking C+. I had to take that shit twice almost broke me. I am a ChemE, so fuck programmingand don't judge me.
Linear Algebra is a bitch!
I wish I could redo that one with what I know now.
Its not shaming as much as its a reality. In America for the most part if you can sign your name on a loan you are not only able to get funds for school, but you are damn near forced on it. The time from finishing High school to 32 is 14 years. That is 7 Associate degrees, 3.5 120 credit bachelor degrees. Thats the world we live in now. Black men dont get a chance to not hit the ground running. Whites and the immigrants on H1B dont allow for it.
^^^Old ass nigga getting a degree.
about 15 years since then
never had to use physics or anything harder than basic math once
When I took it in college on average students were expected to drop it at least three times before eventually passing it. My first teacher was a Cuban I disliked that bitch. I believe it has more to do with bad teachers than bad students. If that many students have to drop a course than your teaching sucks.
Damn. You got lucky with that one. Some academics ain't shit man. It's like they put the shit together with no fucking regard of turning out professionals.As for the topic at hand, hell yeah they do. Crazy part is folks go to college with high ambitions until those hard classes pop up. Folks then run right to the sociology department.
Some math professors are just dickheads because they can be. Math isn't as hard as some professors make it.
I've excellent teachers that taught thoroughly and were fair. I'm a fair math teacher myself.
I don't punish students for missing a problem on a simple mistake. There is a huge difference between not knowing how to do a problem and missing a problem because of a minor mistake. Most of the time when there is a minor mistake, the student knew how to do the problem.
I think a lot has to do with lackluster math teachers
Who couldn't inspire a maggot to turn into a fly
Who couldn't inspire a maggot to turn into a fly
Same here. My last math class was DE ( Differential Equations). Calculus isn’t hard. All Calculus is just Algerbra 1 & 2 but add Sines, Cosines, Tangents, and a shit load of FOIL.
Most ppl who think Calculus is hard never really understood Algebra or even basic math like understanding when to recognize like-terms. In college, I used to revisit a lot of basic math and algebra to keep myself fresh.
Geometry was harder to understand than Trig(Pre-Cal) & Calculus, but like all learning it comes down to the proactiveness of the student to learn and a teacher to be able to teach.
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Damn i wish you could teach my kid.
There were tears yesterday
The thing is he teaches something in class with one or two digits but then for homework?
3 or 4 digits and word problems
Next day have any questions?
Ok lets move on
Its just too accelerated and again i now its advanced but rushing thru the material isnt a productive
So we went to the school learning specialist
Who spent half the session repeatedly calling the math teacher asking him how the hell did you teach this to this kids what method YOU using?
I had to hire her a private tutor
Yeah just reading that
You and me can't be cool.
I didn't understand sh*t after it isn't hard
Man, I LOVE DE. I excelled so well in that area and it makes the most real word sense in the science field.
And you're right about Calc. Most of it is algebra. After you take a derivative or an integral, it's all arithmetic and algebra after that.
Prime numbers Fractions dividing fractions decimals using them in real world problems
Jane's present age is 1/5 of her father's age. Her father will be 52 years old in 7 years . In how many years will Jane's age of her father's age?
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our school took calculus first then trig. i was in AP in both. You're right, once you understand the positions of numbers and what they interpret, everything else is just solving a riddle with all the tools you need. If you don't understand the tools in your toolset or how to use them....
Calc 1 was tough, Calc 2 was about the same, Calc 3 was a monster. Calc 4 was about the same as Calc 1I thought Calculus III was easy. Calculus I was easier. Calculus II kicked my ass
Calc II is the hardest for me. I was good until I got to integration by parts and series.
Trust me folks, this shit starts young. I was always good at math but wasn't labeled an academically gifted (AG) student (trust me, there is racism with this if you're black growing up in a rural white county). I remember in 6th grade, a teacher gave me an AG math worksheet on mistake and I was doing it with ease. Beyond that, I had great math teachers in high school which one taught mathematics at a college.
In college, I was a Comp Sci major and was offered the potential to double major in math. Differential equations was the only math class where I was ever like "Fuck this shit"
If you got a youngster that good in math, invest everything you can into them to go further.
In college, I was a Comp Sci major and was offered the potential to double major in math. Differential equations was the only math class where I was ever like "Fuck this shit"
If you got a youngster that good in math, invest everything you can into them to go further.
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I'm someone who is not a math head, but I can learn if I'm not having to keep up with a class full of math heads. I wish I would have pushed myself to go the trig, pre-calc, calc I route in high school and just got a tutor. I just did algebra and trig and did ok, cause after falling behind in 8th grade I got a tutor and got to the point where I was comfortable and decent with algebra. Since I'm not a math head, I let that comfort win.
During my 16 year part time college plan I learned how valuable just doing the problems over and over again in my free time is when stats ended up being my last class for my BS.
Considering doing calc one of these days just to do it, to prove to myself.
During my 16 year part time college plan I learned how valuable just doing the problems over and over again in my free time is when stats ended up being my last class for my BS.
Considering doing calc one of these days just to do it, to prove to myself.
My nephew got to meet this man. Guy is brilliant. Motivated to tackle this stat class now. Appreciate the uplifting my brothas and sistas. Please keep it up.
Wow had no idea we got bIack drs on this board. I love this board. We truly have it all here.
The culture looks at this kind of study as some abstract subject to just pass because it part of the course study. It been numerous times that people have stated how this courses are a waste of time. Bloomberg was an engineer and now he is worth billions. People have to see the connection in these subjects to their real lives. JMO
You hit the nail on the head about derivatives and integrals. DE and the Electromagnetic Formula go hand in hand. I thought about switching to be a Physics or Math major after that class bc everything starting clicking mentally when I took it.
Yea, a good teacher who has a lesson plan that focuses on the methods of problem solving is better than the accelerated. I was in these classes and was fortunate I had teachers who gave actually cared if the students learned and taught methods mainly. The accelerated method is tough bc the teacher never take the time to give tips for kids to deal with multiple digit numbers or crazy big formulas. This can lower a student’s confidence and as a result students tend to not be interested in the subject. Those tips make the biggest difference in the world. I will admit it can take time to understand, i used to be in a rush trying to get to the answer that I would sometimes forget stuff like “order of operations”. But when I took my time I understood stuff better, and as I practiced more I got faster at solving equations.
Your little one will be good. That tutor will help a lot bc tutors help get in the student’s methodology of thinking.
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That and Statistics for me. I will admit I was not focused at all when I took them. I still remember them Factorials though lol vaguely
Lol! Right. Regarding the med school path in general, once you are on the other side, you also see how much other BS was taught and pushed on to students.
One big one that I tell students all the time is that pre-med and medical students care more about MD, DO, caribbean than the patients do. And that hospitals do not care at all. At hospitals, all we care about is did you pass your boards and are you currently available to practice. Lol!!!
Appreciated family
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