The Zimmerman Trial: Justice for Trayvon! (Let's discuss it)
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I believe Trayvon was baited into attacking, and GZ intentionally took a beating to support a self defense claim, knowing he could pop out his conceal carry at the last second. A witness heard an argument, rather than a over dramatize ambush attack. An argument he created to bait an attack and murder.
He took a college level course on Stand Your Ground that he lied about, this is somebody trying to deceive. At the time he did not expect somebody to dig in his background like that to talk to his professors. A college professor said he studied that for weeks and had an advanced knowledge; knowing what was required to not be charged. GZ might have been on a vendetta to get some payback and to send a message that people were packing heat.
I been in these towns where people will stage fake accidents to harass, or time the same color car to by, it is well coordinated.
He took a college level course on Stand Your Ground that he lied about, this is somebody trying to deceive. At the time he did not expect somebody to dig in his background like that to talk to his professors. A college professor said he studied that for weeks and had an advanced knowledge; knowing what was required to not be charged. GZ might have been on a vendetta to get some payback and to send a message that people were packing heat.
I been in these towns where people will stage fake accidents to harass, or time the same color car to by, it is well coordinated.
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Trayvon never laid a hand on GZ.
This and the fact that the state is willing to believe otherwise and base their case on it tells you how few people are actually interested in his parents getting justice.
When it comes to the state people have to realize that the prosecution can't manufacture witnesses. They can just say Zimmerman did something without out having someone to back it up.
The prosecution is not giving the case away it is just the case is slanted in Zimmermans favor because no one else saw the altercation.
The prosecution is not giving the case away it is just the case is slanted in Zimmermans favor because no one else saw the altercation.
no, but the judge allowed them.
Good!
All these new charges that are being added will now confuse the Jury. I am wondering why this was not included in the accusations/charges in the beginningMaybe the criminal lawyers on this board can explain why.
As long as he's in custody new charges can be added
All these new charges that are being added will now confuse the Jury. I am wondering why this was not included in the accusations/charges in the beginning
The defense should have known this was coming please see
Very good break down http://www.jlellis.net/blog/zimmerman-and-lesser-included-offenses/
All these new charges that are being added will now confuse the Jury. I am wondering why this was not included in the accusations/charges in the beginning
it has always been there. There is a list of possibilities. They are including from the list. I have been saying 25 years for days. I have been saying gz attacked a minor for months. West is grandstanding. Casey anthony walked because she was not charged with lesser offenses.
it gave me great satisfaction to see Don West have a mini break down in court, the defense is disturbed......great news.
That is a good breakdown.
From a guy at OS online:
Here's the instruction West wants blocked: However, the use of deadly force is not justifiable if you find... (Defendant) initially provoked the use of force against [himself] [herself], unless: a. The force asserted toward the defendant was so great that [he] [she] reasonably believed that [he] [she] was in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm and had exhausted every reasonable means to escape the danger, other than using deadly force on (assailant). b. In good faith, the defendant withdrew from physical contact with (assailant) and clearly indicated to (assailant) that [he] [she] wanted to withdraw and stop the use of deadly force, but (assailant) continued or resumed the use of force.
it gave me great satisfaction to see Don West have a mini break down in court, the defense is disturbed......great news.
The defense is just putting on a show.
Oh, these motherfuckers have come to life!
What I miss?
Prosecution is throwing all charges at GZ at the last minute. It appears that they planned it.
But is the judge allowing it? West is probably throwing a tantrum huh.
She has allowed the manslaughter charge.
Right now, West wanted the Judge to include the statement that it's not illegal to follow someone in FL in the jury instructions and she refused
I just saw West does not know the law he looked shocked that 10-20 was included in Murder 3. Any chances the plea bargain?
10-20-Life even applies to Aggravated Assault in Florida?... 
Zimmerman is done if he's convicted of any ONE of these lesser included offenses..
Zimmerman is done if he's convicted of any ONE of these lesser included offenses..
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All these new charges that are being added will now confuse the Jury. I am wondering why this was not included in the accusations/charges in the beginning
This is actually brilliant. We were taking about it in class today (Law School Con Law 2)....Any law student or lawyer knew 2nd degree murder was not going to fly in Florida. It just does not match up that states law but I was wondering why they never talked about Manslaughter and this new 3rd degree felony child abuse!! WTF.. This is some Ali rope a dope.....Kobe with the last shot type shit!
You bring it in late because basically you dont allow the defense to argue it. The prosecution has like 17 cases on deck supporting the law. The defense lawyer (Don West) even said "The state has been plotting on this" He is saltly
I was thinking the state lawyer was wack but my bad, Im getting a real education on Trial Skills
Let me link in somewhere
In addition, the state is working a case in which the Sanford Police Dept purposely failed to properly investigate & refused to initially charge. They also let GZ go 30+ days without arrest. They were given a really shitty hand.
I was thinking the state lawyer was wack but my bad, Im getting a real education on Trial Skills
We all are getting this education, most Blacks don't get this good a defense cause we're plea'd immediately. We don't get to see the state have to put on a case. This is a true education in the legal system & how Court works.
We all are, this is the first chance we
This is actually brilliant. We were taking about it in class today (Law School Con Law 2)....Any law student or lawyer knew 2nd degree murder was not going to fly in Florida. It just does not match up that states law but I was wondering why they never talked about Manslaughter and this new 3rd degree felony child abuse!! WTF.. This is some Ali rope a dope.....Kobe with the last shot type shit!
You bring it in late because basically you dont allow the defense to argue it. The prosecution has like 17 cases on deck supporting the law. The defense lawyer (Don West) even said "The state has been plotting on this" He is saltly
I was thinking the state lawyer was wack but my bad, Im getting a real education on Trial Skills
Do you think the judge will allow it is the question? I knew she overcharged GZ on purpose to get the lesser I'm just wondering will the judge allow it.
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