The Zimmerman Trial: Justice for Trayvon! (Let's discuss it)

If he walks, its cause the jury was never going to convict regardless of how good a job people think the state was doing.

That's where I've been leaning. The Jury is pretty much white (not counting the Spanish mix - she's probably a ring-tailed tree dweller as well) and coming from that community they all think blacks are guilty of everything under the sun. True it's early in the case but like others have stated it only takes "ONE" to disagree and Zimmerman the cunt walks....
 
:lol: @ dude thinking a kangaroo court full of crackers is going to be fair* (fixed and saved in spell checker)
Im glad you finally said this. Which begs the question, then why do you hold so much disdain for Jeantel? As if if she spoke the queens english she would somehow change the views and minds of a tainted jury pool. The outome of this case will have little to do with how she looked or spoke. Nothing she would have done would have changed how those people feel about blacks and the loss of black life.
 
Im glad you finally said this. Which begs the question, then why do you hold so much disdain for Jeantel? As if if she spoke the queens english she would somehow change the views and minds of a tainted jury pool. The outome of this case will have little to do with how she looked or spoke. Nothing she would have done would have changed how those people feel about blacks and the loss of black life.

This is worthy of a kefta quote;

"Racism is white supremacy and white supremacy is racism."
 
Im glad you finally said this. Which begs the question, then why do you hold so much disdain for Jeantel? As if if she spoke the queens english she would somehow change the views and minds of a tainted jury pool. The outome of this case will have little to do with how she looked or spoke. Nothing she would have done would have changed how those people feel about blacks and the loss of black life.

I've told you my grievance with her more than once. It's her unwillingness to help when the mother asked. I think she's lying about "her being ashamed" and all that bullshit - the bitch just didn't care. You fighting hard for this dumb bitch like it's your sister I'm talking about.

I think the jury is on some bullshit but if there was a sliver of a chance, small as it might be, faced with impossible odds that they might (BIG MIGHT) listen, the last thing you do is go on the stand and act like an idiot. Well in her case it wasn't acting.
 
The grounds is that the judge is white.

You need more than that?


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The judge has been pretty solid thus far. I don't see her going sideways, but like you said...given who she is...its always possible.

Good confirmed GZ lied, I hope the state can point that out.

Exactly! Like the Black woman Jennifer on HLN said, the state is allowing the full picture to be painted...once it's done, you then attack GZ's words.

I've told you my grievance with her more than once. It's her unwillingness to help when the mother asked. I think she's lying about "her being ashamed" and all that bullshit - the bitch just didn't care. You fighting hard for this dumb bitch like it's your sister I'm talking about.

Bro, given what we now know about her...can you blame her for not wanting to be in this heat?? Its fucked up she didn't want to help, but its easy to understand her perspective.
 
The judge has been pretty solid thus far. I don't see her going sideways, but like you said...given who she is...its always possible.



Exactly! Like the Black woman Jennifer on HLN said, the state is allowing the full picture to be painted...once it's done, you then attack GZ's words.



Bro, given what we now know about her...can you blame her for not wanting to be in this heat?? Its fucked up she didn't want to help, but its easy to understand her perspective.

Wait, nobody wants to be in this situation, but if your friend gets killed you put all that aside.

From the desk of Hiss Excellency.
 
I've told you my grievance with her more than once. It's her unwillingness to help when the mother asked. I think she's lying about "her being ashamed" and all that bullshit - the bitch just didn't care. You fighting hard for this dumb bitch like it's your sister I'm talking about.

I think the jury is on some bullshit but if there was a sliver of a chance, small as it might be, faced with impossible odds that they might (BIG MIGHT) listen, the last thing you do is go on the stand and act like an idiot. Well in her case it wasn't acting.
I believe she was ashamed, shy, fearful, anygry and traumatized. She asked a friend to write a letter to the mom for crice sake bro. Thats a sincere show of sincerity and being contrite. And even if she wasnt, lets look whats happened since she has "cooperated". There has been more discourse about her look, weight, intelligence, age, and education than there has been about her actual testimony. Can you blame her for her reluctance??? I cant.
 
I believe she was ashamed, shy, fearful, anygry and traumatized. She asked a friend to write a letter to the mom for crice sake bro. Thats a sincere show of sincerity and being contrite. And even if she wasnt, lets look whats happened since she has "cooperated". There has been more discourse about her look, weight, intelligence, age, and education than there has been about her actual testimony. Can you blame her for her reluctance??? I cant.

Look, I went in on her and shit when she first came on the scene, and I can admit I was heavy handed but that's mostly due the mother's desperation in trying to get help and the bitch not wanting to.

I'm not going to spill the beans on my own personal shit, but I've been in a situation that I needed help (life and death type shit) and a person who's black pretty much didn't want to help because they didn't think it was worth it. They had better things to do. And when you're drowning like Sabrina Fulton was in pain, and for her to play with her emotions like that is beyond fucked up.

I'm not forgiving that shit because @ 19 you should know better. I don't believe 19 about to be 20 is a fucking child. If she couldn't have stood up, then her family (Mom and Dad) should have been adult enough to MAKE her stand up. You BELIEVE she was shy, I believe she's not shy. Go read her twitter, she's extremely ghetto and ratchet. Loud, obnoxious and sick. She had time to get high and party (according to her twitter) instead of lending a hand and taking the shit seriously. She even blew off the meeting with Crump and didn't listen to anything he had to say.

Her looks, to be honest...and fuck you negros that are going to clown, but I think she's kinda cute. She's what I call a A.T.F chick (Acquired Taste Face). Fat and bad built, but she has a cute face to me. If she was mentally sound and put together I'd be more positive....


You can keep coming at me all you want, me (and all the people that keep PM'ing me that they cosign but don't want the backlash - yea, I'm calling ya'll out) ain't going to change our minds because you embarrassed for her and feel she needs shelter from the rain.
 

Her looks, to be honest...and fuck you negros that are going to clown, but I think she's kinda cute. She's what I call a A.T.F chick (Acquired Taste Face). Fat and bad built, but she has a cute face to me.

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It's too early in the day to be drinking that heavy, bruh.. :smh:
 
Remember your life needs to be in danger in order to use deadly force, that is the very first thing they teach you on your classes for your conceal carry permit. A provocation, verbal assault, intimidatiion, even a fight is not a justifiable reason to kill another person, now does this mean the judge and jury will follow those quidelines when a black teenager is murder is another story.

Not only is this critical, is the reason the cop (investigator) is one of the keys in this case, and the reason GZ father and the chief of police did everything in their power to avoid the officers to take george to the police station so they can continue interrogating him and break him. Is huge in my personal opinion.
 
Dray, you my nigga ever since the Donner situation. I have no issue with you. I just strongly disagree with the level of vitriol you have levied at this young lady. Yes, some of your concerns are very valid. I just feel that you have spent a bit too much energy bashing her. I just cant get with the sentiment that she is somehow at fault here and i took offense to those who imply that the bigots who judge her would somehow be more objective to her story if she were to present it in a more aesthetically pleasing package. Thats my position brother.
 
Remember your life needs to be in danger in order to use deadly force, that is the very first thing they teach you on your classes for your conceal carry permit. A provocation, verbal assault, intimidatiion, even a fight is not a justifiable reason to kill another person, now does this mean the judge and jury will follow those quidelines when a black teenager is murder is another story.

Not only is this critical, is the reason the cop (investigator) is one of the keys in this case, and the reason GZ father and the chief of police did everything in their power to avoid the officers to take george to the police station so they can continue interrogating him and break him. Is huge in my personal opinion.

http://licgweb.doacs.state.fl.us/weapons/self_defense.html

"Chapter 776 was amended by the Legislature in 2005. The changes that took effect on October 1, 2005, extended the provisions of what is known as the “Castle Doctrine,” declaring that a person has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and meet force with force if that force is necessary to prevent death, great bodily harm or the commission of a forcible felony."
 
http://licgweb.doacs.state.fl.us/weapons/self_defense.html

"Chapter 776 was amended by the Legislature in 2005. The changes that took effect on October 1, 2005, extended the provisions of what is known as the “Castle Doctrine,” declaring that a person has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and meet force with force if that force is necessary to prevent death, great bodily harm or the commission of a forcible felony."


My question is can GZ be found guilty of anything at all saw clip sorry it comes from fox news but lady was talking about criminal negligence, can anyone expand on what she could be alluding too because since TM was a minor manslaughter charge is basically same at M2. I surprised then even had this lady on the show but it's still 3 vs 1
 
Dray, you my nigga ever since the Donner situation. I have no issue with you. I just strongly disagree with the level of vitriol you have levied at this young lady. Yes, some of ycerns are very valid. I just feel that you have spent a bit too much energy bashing her. I just cant get with the sentiment that she is somet fault here and i took of thoseo imply that the bigots who judge her would somehow be more objective to her story if she were to present it in a more aesthetically pleasing package. Thats my position brother.

Understandable. I also think I have buyers remorse because I waited for a good year and a half for this chick to get on the stand. I knew she was the star witness when the story first blew up because she had the most compelling evidence so far. She would sell the jury on the mindset of Trayvon (a kid scared walking home). Instead we got a rude, uninterested person who struggled just being there.:smh:
 
one justification i've read from GZ supports is if TM had ran home or ran and knocked on a neighbor's door (which their kid would have done) he would still be alive. smh
 
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It's too early in the day to be drinking that heavy, bruh.. :smh:

Sorry bro, but I find afrocentric features attractive. I didn't say she was fine and a dime (she's fat and bad built) but a cute girl (in a homely way) sorry she's not light bright and damn near white for me to be falling all over myself like the bgol commoners on here. What makes her ugly to me is her attitude.

Clown away though:)
 
one justification i've read from GZ supports is if TM had ran home or ran and knocked on a neighbor's door (which their kid would have done) he would still be alive. smh

Yea, crackers are everything TMs fault, fuck the fact that piece of shit fucking pus bag should have been an adult and left the kid alone.
 
Sorry bro, but I find afrocentric features attractive. I didn't say she was fine and a dime (she's fat and bad built) but a cute girl (in a homely way) sorry she's not light bright and damn near white for me to be falling all over myself like the bgol commoners on here. What makes her ugly to me is her attitude.

Clown away though:)

Comments like this are just counterproductive. It only leads to a tic for tac. I see what you see. She is not a bad looking girl but a badly built girl.
 
If they're using that as justification, then they're saying that this kid being followed had more of a responsibility to retreat than the asshole following him for no reason.


one justification i've read from GZ supports is if TM had ran home or ran and knocked on a neighbor's door (which their kid would have done) he would still be alive. smh
 
Sorry bro, but I find afrocentric features attractive. I didn't say she was fine and a dime (she's fat and bad built) but a cute girl (in a homely way) sorry she's not light bright and damn near white for me to be falling all over myself like the bgol commoners on here. What makes her ugly to me is her attitude.

Clown away though:)

Don't pull the "complexion", and "afrocentric" cards on me nigga..


If that fat tub of lard that looks like its smuggling a pack of hot dogs in its neck is what you're in to, own it! Don't sit here and make bullshit excuses for it..
 
Yea, crackers are everything TMs fault, fuck the fact that piece of shit fucking pus bag should have been an adult and left the kid alone.

Shit like this annoys me!! TM does not have any rights? It's amazing how many people LEAVE OUT THE EVENTS that led up to the shooting :eek::smh::smh::smh::smh:
 
Shit like this annoys me!! TM does not have any rights? It's amazing how many people LEAVE OUT THE EVENTS that led up to the shooting :eek::smh::smh::smh::smh:

White people LOOOOOOVE to talk about freedom and the "Constitution" and how they have rights. They have the right to go and walk wherever they want in public. All about freedom. But trayvon? He has no rights. He has to stop and comply with any motherfucker that questions him. Even if the person is not a cop (And you have a right to not talk to cops as well).

To them, the only true American's are white and by proxy...mexicans that kill blacks....They get honorary American status temporarily.

Don't pull the "complexion", and "afrocentric" cards on me nigga..


If that fat tub of lard that looks like its smuggling a pack of hot dogs in its neck is what you're in to, own it! Don't sit here and make bullshit excuses for it..

I said her face, Now I agree with you on the neck part, she does seem to be wearing a turtle neck sweater while not actually wearing one. :lol:
 
White people LOOOOOOVE to talk about freedom and the "Constitution" and how they have rights. They have the right to go and walk wherever they want in public. All about freedom. But trayvon? He has no rights. He has to stop and comply with any motherfucker that questions him. Even if the person is not a cop (And you have a right to not talk to cops as well).

To them, the only true American's are white and by proxy...mexicans that kill blacks....They get honorary American status temporarily.



I said her face, Now I agree with you on the neck part, she does seem to be wearing a turtle neck sweater while not actually wearing one. :lol:


Yeah someone posted a shot of her smiling on twitter. I thought she had a cute face also. Someone on twitter said her neck looks like she has goiter and speculated it could be an indicator of an iodine deficiency.
 
one justification i've read from GZ supports is if TM had ran home or ran and knocked on a neighbor's door (which their kid would have done) he would still be alive. smh

Trayvon was walking home when Zimmerman must have grabbed him evidenced by the "get off get off". Then it's a fight to get a creepy ass cracka hands off him.
 
Normally don't bother reading comment sections but glanced over this very interesting comment in the Esquire article...

Jerry Rosen said:
if martin was sitting on top of Zimmerman, pinning him with his weight, how did Z. get his gun out? Assuming that while it was holstered it had the safety on, how did he manage to get it off while presumably being beaten. When someone is banging your head on the pavement, he must be sitting on your chest; if your arms are not pinned you can fight back, and if they are how do you reach a gun at your waist, with the legs of your supposed assailant blocking you?

On the other hand, suppose Z had his gun out before the scuffle. Then it would it be Martin who was feeling threatened? A loaded gun is a lot more menacing than a bag of Skittles.
 
Trayvon was walking home when Zimmerman must have grabbed him evidenced by the "get off get off". Then it's a fight to get a creepy ass cracka hands off him.

This is what happened. Zim confronted Martin, and tried to impede Martin's movements. He had no right to do that.

From the desk of Hiss Excellency.
 
Sorry bro, but I find afrocentric features attractive. I didn't say she was fine and a dime (she's fat and bad built) but a cute girl (in a homely way) sorry she's not light bright and damn near white for me to be falling all over myself like the bgol commoners on here. What makes her ugly to me is her attitude.

Clown away though:)

Her face wasn't bad, she a decent looking girl in the face. I think the shape of her eyes were pretty--almond shaped. It was her neck that looks badly.
 
Yeah someone posted a shot of her smiling on twitter. I thought she had a cute face also. Someone on twitter said her neck looks like she has goiter and speculated it could be an indicator of an iodine deficiency.

Man, I was thinking the same thing, but those aren't supposed to exist anymore, because of better diets and nutrition. :smh:
 
Yeah someone posted a shot of her smiling on twitter. I thought she had a cute face also. Someone on twitter said her neck looks like she has goiter and speculated it could be an indicator of an iodine deficiency.

Man, I was thinking the same thing, but those aren't supposed to exist anymore, because of better diets and nutrition. :smh:
 
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