THE WRESTLING THREAD: HHH KEEPS DOING HHH THINGS.....
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now this is a surprise..
It's been in the works. I'm a little surprised at Mickie because she's been at her best since her heel turn but they've very quietly been moving Gail Kim ahead of her the whole summer even while James was the champ.
Anderson probably should have been gone a long time ago. He really hasn't done much and hasn't looked sharp in the ring since he got that severe concussion from Jeff Hardy a couple years ago.
Hopefully, he's mended fences with WWE and goes back there. They need to freshen up their roster badly, especially in the middle of the card. How many times can they have ADR wrestle Kofi Kingston?
Tara backstage at last monday's Raw
Tara backstage at last monday's Raw
Damn @ her body.
They MUST bring her and Mickie back.
Boy Punk was doing some Cena level pandering last nightThe show was boring and this whole Bryan/Orton feud is just to get the Mcmahons & Triple H heat, Orton is still getting the same average reaction and Bryan is just a little better off than before.
I thought the Rhodes run in was really good and unexpected, except Goldust coming down in full makeup. That was corny but the rest was great. They need to give Bryan some of that fire they showed.
Since he was in Chicago, I'll give Punk a pass with his pandering. He really is the last guy in WWE that still treats it like it's "real" and it helps his angles greatly, no matter who he's working with.
I thought it was funny how it took the crowd a little while to see who was attacking the shield, but when they did they got a great reaction.
I would've given him a pass too had he not done the same pandering before NOC, i just hate when wrestlers turn on the Hoover for cheers. I hated it when Rock did it and i hate it when Punk does it because it feels like they're lowering themselves.
I think they're trying to establish a riff between the Total Divas divas and the other divas because the Total Divas (aside from Natalya and Naomi) don't wrestle as well as the other divas. But the Total Diva chicks get their own show and half of them don't even wrestle.
So the other chicks are like "Why can't we be on the show?"
So chicks like Tamina, Alicia Fox and Aksana who do wrestle and who aren't on Total Divas (or even on Raw and Smackdown) side with AJ who's against the TD show as well.
It's confusing because people cheer AJ even though she's a heel.
The non-TD divas are also supposed to be heels.
And the Total Divas are supposed to be the faces, even though the Bellas and the new white bitch are supposed to be heels of the group. But they turned face when they all jumped AJ, but it got all the Total Divas boo'ed.
Because aside from Natalya, nobody cares about the other Total Diva divas.
It's really confusing.
Yeah tara always was always pretty fucking fine since her WWE days.
Anderson was always overrated to me, all he was good for was yelling his name and getting hurt. I think he would've became a star after that whole McMahon's son angle tho he fucked that up bad
Watching the Raw main event, they really carried the end of this show very well. I actually liked the handicapped tag match. WWE needs to take note of that reaction Reigns and Titus O'neal got when they were in the ring, people wanna see PTP more. HHH delivered on his promised of the tag teams becoming relevant. He's about 50% there
It was weird but they carried it off well. They made Reigns look like a monster (I told you the days of him getting long matches were over for now), PTP got to look good, they continued the Usos-Shield feud (kinda), and Bryan got a win.
Every single time he gets some momentum, in WWE and TNA, he got hurt. That's not his fault but that's what happened.
He should take the send off TNA gave him and get his game up on the indy circuit and then see if WWE would want him back.
Tonight might see the end of Hulk Hogan, depending on if he re-signs at the cheaper price TNA is offering. If he doesn't, I'm sure they'll use the new "tough" Dixie Carter to fire his ass, like how Bischoff and Hogan got rid of Mick Foley when he left TNA.
Same goes for A&8s. I see the remaining members, other than Ray, have a six man with MEM and it's the only notable match announced. They lose, I can see Ray dumping all of them.
I liked Mr. Anderson. I think the injury and Orton shitting on him got him fired last go around. I'm not a big TNA watcher but when I did it seemed like they didn't know what to do with him. He had a good thing going for him in WWE. I felt like he could've at some point became a main eventer. Him and MVP at the time.
You don't want to bury any young talent but i'd love to see one last shot from Shelton Benjamin, MVP and Mr. Anderson.
You don't want to bury any young talent but i'd love to see one last shot from Shelton Benjamin, MVP and Mr. Anderson.
By now, those two guys should be WWE main eventers.
TNA made Ken a two time world champ, gave him a BIG feud with Angle, and was about to have one with Hardy when Jeff gave him a severe concussion. He never seemed to get it back until very recently.
I guess with RVD about to take a break, he might win the WHC at the ppv and have Sandow cash in on him.
By now, those two guys should be WWE main eventers.
TNA made Ken a two time world champ, gave him a BIG feud with Angle, and was about to have one with Hardy when Jeff gave him a severe concussion. He never seemed to get it back until very recently.
I guess with RVD about to take a break, he might win the WHC at the ppv and have Sandow cash in on him.
Oh is RVD about to take a break? I know I seen some of ya'll say he's kind of stale because his matches all go the same way and the same gimmick but man shit I like it. I know I might be the minority. I just love that this is pretty much the closest shit we get to that ECW era. He's the last of that shit especially in WWE.
And with Ken Anderson I didn't like how they kept putting him in all those damn stables. It was just too much. But my whole beef with TNA is they have no structure and keep rehashing these old fake NWO stables they keep bringing out.
I'm shocked Matt Morgan is not on the WWE's radar. Especially since how far he's come. It seems like they keep looking for Matt Morgan types and now that he's out there they don't want him.
I was never a huge fan of Mr. Anderson but I thought he had talent. I feel like the injuries completely killed his career in both WWE and TNA. I think he needs to step back, do some indy stuff and recreate himself and his wrestling style because up until his last match with Bully, he's been forgettable.
I would hope the WWE brings back Mickie James and Tara but seeing as how they treat the divas they have now. I don't see them doing much or lasting long enough to make a difference. Even though i'd love to see AJ vs Mickie, they both played the "crazy chick" gimmick real well.
And just random thoughts....
- Kofi Kingston is the new Shelton Benjamin
- What the hell happened to Wade Barrett
- Merge the US and IC title belts, they have the value of the old european title did and make the WHC the new upper card title
I would hope the WWE brings back Mickie James and Tara but seeing as how they treat the divas they have now. I don't see them doing much or lasting long enough to make a difference. Even though i'd love to see AJ vs Mickie, they both played the "crazy chick" gimmick real well.
And just random thoughts....
- Kofi Kingston is the new Shelton Benjamin
- What the hell happened to Wade Barrett
- Merge the US and IC title belts, they have the value of the old european title did and make the WHC the new upper card title
Yea I will say though I think Kofi is being held back and part of it is because of his tiresome gimmick. He atleast has a tiresome gimmick though. They had NOTHING for Shelton. Couldn't do shit with him. He would've never made it had he not been such a great wrestler and a athletic freak.
And someone I think maybe in this thread said they should bring back Wade in some form of Coporation role and have him doing the dirty work for the HHH/Mcmahon's. I think you HAVE to do that with him right now.
They had NOTHING for Shelton. Couldn't do shit with him. He would've never made it had he not been such a great wrestler and a athletic freak. And someone I think maybe in this thread said they should bring back Wade in some form of Coporation role and have him doing the dirty work for the HHH/Mcmahon's. I think you HAVE to do that with him right now.
Yea I will say though I think Kofi is being held back and part of it is because of his tiresome gimmick. He atleast has a tiresome gimmick though.
And someone I think maybe in this thread said they should bring back Wade in some form of Coporation role and have him doing the dirty work for the HHH/Mcmahon's. I think you HAVE to do that with him right now.
Yeah they brought him in when they were trying to have Bryan shave his beard, and he was great for that role he played, so I know they've had to have at least considered keeping Wade a part of the storyline.
speaking of the non-Total Divas, what happened to Kaitlynn?
That might be my problem with RVD: he's been doing the same shit since ECW. When he's on, he's on but he needs to work with guys who can work around his limitations. He can still have exciting matches but it's usually up to his opponent.
They had to put him in groups because he wasn't doing anything on his own and couldn't carry his own weight anymore. If he had stayed with TNA, or if he comes back, A&8s would have been good way to springboard him off on his own again. He and Bully didn't just have a good match a couple weeks ago, they had one a couple years ago at Bound For Glory.
Factions are a staple of the business. WWE has several factions going right now with HHH doing a bad rehash of the Corporation angle-Austin vs McMahon with Daniel Bryan. ROH went from running an angle with Kevin Steen with SCUM to Homicide and Eddie Kingston as Outlaws Inc. That's how the business is: factions work.
They've had preliminary talks but it's going to come down to money and dates. He's up against the feeling that they don't have to pay premium money for older talents when they can just bring up cheaper talent from NXT. Same thinking that makes AJ Styles and Bobby Roode less appealing to WWE even though they're excellent.
It got out that Vince had told Shawn Michaels about a guy he just didn't see money in. Most people automatically assumed he was talking about Daniel Bryan. Michaels cleared it up and said the guy Vince was talking about, and he defended, was 6'5 and 270lbs. Seeing how things have gone, it looks to me he was talking about Wade Barrett.
Wade "The Barber" Barrett.
At least he'll be on tv.
Good question. She was one of the two top Divas all year and now she's disappeared and she's not injured. I know why that happens on TNA, they only have one show. But WWE has three national shows and a shitload of Divas. Put her with Aksana and Layla, who betrayed her, and let them have their own feud. Simple shit they just don't do. But Khali and Santino get plenty of time.
Step One is Hogan's possible exit started last night.
I like the idea of Sting elevating Magnus.
Jeff Jarrett has been backstage at Impact! lately. So if Bischoff leaves with Hogan, they have a plan in place.
I like the idea of Sting elevating Magnus.
Jeff Jarrett has been backstage at Impact! lately. So if Bischoff leaves with Hogan, they have a plan in place.
Step one was him completely butchering that promo, he just gave up and told AJ to come on out
Also what the hell was Dixie saying? That was one of those rambling promos that became worse with all the crowd noise, for a minute i thought she was doing a Ted Cruz impersonation
Step one was him completely butchering that promo, he just gave up and told AJ to come on out
Ted CruzHaving seen all the One Night Only ppvs (a couple are really good, a couple eh), the one thing I will never, ever knock about TNA is crowd noise. If they do have to go back to a permanent site, they shouldn't go back to Orlando.
I thought Hogan would at least make it to BFG but now I don't know.
Having seen all the One Night Only ppvs (a couple are really good, a couple eh), the one thing I will never, ever knock about TNA is crowd noise. If they do have to go back to a permanent site, they shouldn't go back to Orlando.
I thought Hogan would at least make it to BFG but now I don't know.
C/S i mean do they not have a sleeveless sunburned fan limit? Hogan needs to go back home to the WWE and start promoting the 2K14 video game.
You're on one todayI don't see what else he can do for TNA at this point. Unlike a lot of other talent, when he does publicity tours, he rarely mentions TNA. That first year or two, I understood the value he added when you had him appear for meet and greets and just the name recognition of having Hulk Hogan. I can even see that having some effect with them doing Impact! on the road. But I don't see there being much dropoff if he's gone. They'll still have Kurt Angle and Bully Ray, who had more recent runs in WWE. Rampage Jackson will probably come back (maybe even Tito, who's worked with them before). Jeff Jarrett's back. If he won't take the pay cut, then the best for both parties is he leave.
Hulk Hogan at WrestleMania 30 has a nice ring to it.
I don't see what else he can do for TNA at this point. Unlike a lot of other talent, when he does publicity tours, he rarely mentions TNA. That first year or two, I understood the value he added when you had him appear for meet and greets and just the name recognition of having Hulk Hogan. I can even see that having some effect with them doing Impact! on the road. But I don't see there being much dropoff if he's gone. They'll still have Kurt Angle and Bully Ray, who had more recent runs in WWE. Rampage Jackson will probably come back (maybe even Tito, who's worked with them before). Jeff Jarrett's back. If he won't take the pay cut, then the best for both parties is he leave.
Hulk Hogan at WrestleMania 30 has a nice ring to it.
They cared more about having Hogan there than actually having him promote the company, and Hogan was not shy at all about not mentioning them which showed me he saw them as just a paycheck. It's 1 thing to collect a check from the WWE since his salary wouldn't bother them at all, but with a company struggling like TNA is his salary is costing people their jobs. I have no idea what the plans are for WM 30 but having him there would only help, because right now they're praying for the Brock/Rock rematch that i don't see happening and Taker is probably done at this point.
Taker will be there. He's pretty healthy and only wasn't as SummerSlam because they couldn't agree on the money.
Unless Spiketv has some tremendous growth, I don't see how TNA can possibly get much bigger so the best thing is cutting costs where they can and continue to try to figure out what works for them and what doesn't. The Open Fight Night concept, putting together and pushing a solid tag division and KO division, maybe bringing back GutCheck and/or the TV title. One thing they always have going for them is they keep trying new things.
DEPARTED TNA STAR SAYS HE IS CLOSE TO A RETURN
by Mike Johnson @ 11:28 AM on 9/30/2013
Ken Anderson appeared on 4th and Pain and stated that he expects to have a new deal with Impact Wrestling "within a week." Anderson said his agent and lawyer are currently working on finishing up a deal with the company and that he enjoyed the way he was being used creatively before his contract expired.
Mickie James also had a recent interview and was coy about whether she was negotiating or not, so she might end up back with TNA.
Hulk Hogan's contract expired yesterday.
by Mike Johnson @ 11:28 AM on 9/30/2013
Ken Anderson appeared on 4th and Pain and stated that he expects to have a new deal with Impact Wrestling "within a week." Anderson said his agent and lawyer are currently working on finishing up a deal with the company and that he enjoyed the way he was being used creatively before his contract expired.
Mickie James also had a recent interview and was coy about whether she was negotiating or not, so she might end up back with TNA.
Hulk Hogan's contract expired yesterday.
