THE WRESTLING THREAD: HHH KEEPS DOING HHH THINGS.....

[Upgrade Dave]

I had my money on Dirty D to get it

The young whippersnapper tried hard but experience and the willingness to cheat and hold the tights and put a foot on the ropes put me over the top.

Thank you, thank you.

or as the new "over" guy in WWE would say

YES! YES! YES!


I'm shooting for 15k and 20k.

 

[dirtyd]

You had to be there, d. You're old enough to remember that most tv matches where a star against a scrub style squash matches and that's all Luger did on tv. The same recipe they used for Nikita Koloff (horrible wrestler for a while, turned out pretty good) and the Road Warriors (horrible and stiff as shit). Short squash matches on tv with them working longer matches with great, or at least better, workers on house shows. Plus back then you really had the Apter mags like Pro Wrestling Illustrated and The Wrestler pushing him and talking about how great he was.
Luger would never survived in the wrestling on tv every week in "meaningful" matches era we live in now but for then, he was perfect.
I remember vividly when he came to Crockett and debuted on World Championship Wrestling, I was shook, thinking "Oh my God! It's Lex Luger! Ric's in trouble!" and jumping for joy, JOY!, when he declared he wanted to be a Horseman. If Lex had really taken it seriously, he could have been as great as advertised but he didn't and Sting leapfrogged him.

I just remember seeing him and not being impressed with anything about him. His promos always sucked because his speech pattern is terrible, and all that flexing never caught my attention

I had my money on Dirty D to get it

I give it to the "Cryptkeeper Dave"j/k but shouldn't one of us be the mods for this because the one who started it doesn't even post in here.

 

[Johnny_2_Clips]

Yeah, so I re-watched last night. While Lesnar's return was mind-blowing, I just don't understand why they had Cena act like a dummy and smiling. So he clearly forgot the beef that him and Brock had when Lesnar was the champ?

Hopefully they at least remind us that these two had history and John Cena isn't meeting The Next Big Thing for the first time.

 

[The Pope]

I give it to the "Cryptkeeper Dave"j/k but shouldn't one of us be the mods for this because the one who started it doesn't even post in here.

yeah, I bet the op never imagined his thread taking off like it did

 

[chrislee]

The young whippersnapper tried hard but experience and the willingness to cheat and hold the tights and put a foot on the ropes put me over the top.

But on Luger, he seemed like a nice guy. I remember Lex and Sid was in a main event at a house show I went to as a kid, and after the match Lex got up and shook hands with the fans and signed autographs.

 

[dirtyd]

Yeah, so I re-watched last night. While Lesnar's return was mind-blowing, I just don't understand why they had Cena act like a dummy and smiling. So he clearly forgot the beef that him and Brock had when Lesnar was the champ?

Hopefully they at least remind us that these two had history and John Cena isn't meeting The Next Big Thing for the first time.

Three things stood out last night
1. Rock showed that he had been told to hold back against Cena, because he finally sounded like Rock again and not "Rock Johnson" eww porn name

2. Lesnar forgot how to do his jumping routine last night because he looked like all white people when they try to dance

3. Cena forgot he and Brock had a feud years ago that led to him using the AA as an insult to Lesnar, i mean why else is he smiling like an idiot?

 

[destyni]

 

[dirtyd]

 

[Johnny_2_Clips]

Played out just the same on Raw. Maybe the WWE doesn't forget

 

[c_commander]

Good one. They can go either one of two ways with Bryan: the Jack Swagger route or the Chris Jericho route. I hope they go the latter and make Bryan a real threat and contender.

Considering that you never know when Jericho is going to go or when he's going to come back the Chris Jericho route should be the preferred one. Besides if you make him legit like Jericho he can give somebody the rub and make them look like a star. And Jericho has never had an issue with losing. Hell John Cena's first WWE win was over Jericho on a PPV.

 

[c_commander]

Yeah, so I re-watched last night. While Lesnar's return was mind-blowing, I just don't understand why they had Cena act like a dummy and smiling. So he clearly forgot the beef that him and Brock had when Lesnar was the champ?

Hopefully they at least remind us that these two had history and John Cena isn't meeting The Next Big Thing for the first time.

I wonder if they mention the fact that Lesnar's last match coincided with Cena winning his first title.

 

[THE DRIZZY]

Thanks for the post and

I highly doubt their turning Cena heel, not now, but who cares .... Brock, Brock !!!! ​

It sucks to be a Little Jimmy right now They have no idea who or how bad ass Brock is. Time for the Jimmy's to grow up.

 

[Nochturnal]

R.I.P. Chief Jay Strongbow


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[Simply Sickenin']

It sucks to be a Little Jimmy right now They have no idea who or how bad ass Brock is. Time for the Jimmy's to grow up.

Seeing their hero get fucked up two nights in a row by guys you're barely old enough to remember.

Elementary school classrooms must have been hell today. ​

 

[THE DRIZZY]

Seeing their hero get fucked up two nights in a row by guys you're barely old enough to remember.

Elementary school classrooms must have been hell today. ​

 

[Multi - Personality]

Dean Ambrose getting under Mick's skin at Wrestlemania

 

[NightMare Paint]

Dean Ambrose getting under Mick's skin at Wrestlemania

Yeah that seems like a good work.

1)Somebody asks if he is coming back.

2)He says "Maybe?"

3)FCW wrestler billed as a purist comes out of nowhere blaming him for destroying a generation of wrestlers.

 

[xspade7]

HCTP was my fav. PS2 wrestling game. WWE was at it's peak during this period. Wasn't too many RAW Supershows in that era

Cena/Lesnar have history dating back to Cena "Prototype" days in OVW with Lesnar

 

[destyni]

 

[TonyNJ1208]

So I guess the rock is going to disappear again and Brock is supposed to make the fans forget about the leaving again??? Wonder if sable is going to Make a appearance haha..


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[xspade7]

Yeah that seems like a good work.

1)Somebody asks if he is coming back.

2)He says "Maybe?"

3)FCW wrestler billed as a purist comes out of nowhere blaming him for destroying a generation of wrestlers.

Thats the wrestler formerly known as Jon Moxley watched him from his start in HWA here in Cincy. Had a nice fued with William Regal in FCW which garner him some nice praise

 

[dirtyd]

So I guess the rock is going to disappear again and Brock is supposed to make the fans forget about the leaving again??? Wonder if sable is going to Make a appearance haha..


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[Upgrade Dave]

I just remember seeing him and not being impressed with anything about him. His promos always sucked because his speech pattern is terrible, and all that flexing never caught my attention

Depending on when that was, you would have been in a small minority. Vince needs to actually use Dusty and try to hide the weaknesses of his younger guys as they develop and would still be worth a damn later. The Luger (Nikita/Road Warriors) formula works but they don't use it.

I give it to the "Cryptkeeper Dave"j/k but shouldn't one of us be the mods for this because the one who started it doesn't even post in here.

Yeah, so I re-watched last night. While Lesnar's return was mind-blowing, I just don't understand why they had Cena act like a dummy and smiling. So he clearly forgot the beef that him and Brock had when Lesnar was the champ?

Hopefully they at least remind us that these two had history and John Cena isn't meeting The Next Big Thing for the first time.

They might. But they can't seem to remember Mark Henry breaking Kane's leg from last year so I don't ever expect them to remember shit.

yeah, I bet the op never imagined his thread taking off like it did

It's outlived the new "Monday Night Wars" and apparently the OP's interest.

But on Luger, he seemed like a nice guy. I remember Lex and Sid was in a main event at a house show I went to as a kid, and after the match Lex got up and shook hands with the fans and signed autographs.

I'm sure he was and when I've met he was very nice. Meeting him now that's he saved is a very memorable, pleasant experience.
He was living in his pastor's attic for a while but those WWE dvd royalties should help him out as they come in, just look at Madusa's

FORMER WWE STAR GETS BIG PAYDAYby Mike Johnson @ 5:16 PM on 4/3/2012

Former WWF and WCW star Debra "Madusa" Miceli posted on her Facebook page a photo of a WWE breakdown for royalties she was paid recently. The royalties were for Miceli footage used on the WWE Wrestlemania DVD box set, the 50 Greatest WWE Superstars of the 90s, and several other releases. The total? $306, 563.46.
Miceli recently sat down with WWE interviewers for footage that will be used for the WWE Network, opening up a relationship with the company for the first time since she left as WWF Women's champion and tossed the belt into a trash can live on WCW Monday Nitro.
That door re-opening is sure showing to be quite beneficial.

Considering that you never know when Jericho is going to go or when he's going to come back the Chris Jericho route should be the preferred one. Besides if you make him legit like Jericho he can give somebody the rub and make them look like a star. And Jericho has never had an issue with losing. Hell John Cena's first WWE win was over Jericho on a PPV.

It took them a while to fall in love with Jericho but when they did, he won a bunch of titles and was always in something meaningful.

R.I.P. Chief Jay Strongbow


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Too bad. Good wrestler.
Racist gimmick.

Thats the wrestler formerly known as Jon Moxley watched him from his start in HWA here in Cincy. Had a nice fued with William Regal in FCW which garner him some nice praise

He's the perfect guy to match up with Foley, even if just on the mic. He's been on fire with Dragon Gate USA and EVOLVE in his feud with Sabu. WWE MIGHT have a big star on their hands if they fuck it up.

 

[dirtyd]

TMZ has updated their story on WWE pulling Randy Orton from The Marine 3 after Marines complained about Orton receiving a bad conduct discharge in 1999 after going AWOL twice. Cpl. Mike Vinn told TMZ:

"On behalf of all the Marines from Aco 1/4 98-02, that were outraged to hear about Randy Orton portraying a Marine in the next movie "Marine: Homefront", I'd like to thank the WWE for pulling Orton from the role when they heard about his disloyal service to the United States Marine Corps. It shows respect for not only the unit I had served in, but for every person that has ever defended this nation. Thank you WWE."

They really overstepped their bounds on that one, i don't blame marines being upset over a dude who went AWOL 2x and had a conduct discharge portraying them Think Vince

- PWInsider reports that there are already WWE talents not too happy about Brock Lesnar returning, likely for similar reasons they weren't happy with The Rock coming back.

I can somewhat understand them being upset over Lesnar, but to compare him to Rock is lame since one grew up in the business and the other took a shit on it at the biggest ppv. However Lesnar has said before that he always wanted to make good on what happened at WMXX, it does seem like the wwe is moving in a new direction so maybe some of them should shut up and see what happens.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

They really overstepped their bounds on that one, i don't blame marines being upset over a dude who went AWOL 2x and had a conduct discharge portraying them Think Vince

Glad they had the sense to correct the mistake.

I can somewhat understand them being upset over Lesnar, but to compare him to Rock is lame since one grew up in the business and the other took a shit on it at the biggest ppv. However Lesnar has said before that he always wanted to make good on what happened at WMXX, it does seem like the wwe is moving in a new direction so maybe some of them should shut up and see what happens.

I agree that Rock and Brock are two very different situations so while I thought the resentment with Rock was misplaced, I definitely get it with Brock. Dude didn't want to travel and didn't want to do put people, The Undertaker of all people, over and quit after a monster push.
He's going to have to earn the boys' respect this time around because for him to walk and literally come back and get everything he wants (limited schedule, main event push) without having to earn it, sets a bad precedent.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

Update on Madusa and her royalty payments from WWE

To follow up on the Madusa posting mentioned yesterday, she clarified on her Twitter account that those numbers were not her payment for those DVDs, so the numbers were probably the gross amount paid to talents, of which she received a % from. Madusa, responding to people claiming it was an April Fool's prank, commented, "Just to clear up the the royalty posting From WWE to me.... 1) i am not a liar it did come to me... Lol 2). It is the correct amount and Did I post THAT was my total take? NO! Like any other ent. Co.I got very little However I am still making nice royalty checks, thank u WWE"

 

[dirtyd]

I agree that Rock and Brock are two very different situations so while I thought the resentment with Rock was misplaced, I definitely get it with Brock. Dude didn't want to travel and didn't want to do put people, The Undertaker of all people, over and quit after a monster push.
He's going to have to earn the boys' respect this time around because for him to walk and literally come back and get everything he wants (limited schedule, main event push) without having to earn it, sets a bad precedent.

No doubt. The stunt that they pulled at Mania would have me fuming too and let's not forget how he treated Cena at Backlash 03 Are you sure he didn't want to put Taker over because from all indications Taker wanted to make Lesnar a star. Taker & Lesnar are still friends to this day and i can't see Taker being cool with someone who tried to shit on him. Another feeling i have is how many of those people were even around when Brock was there? I can understand Cena if he's a little pissed but aside from Orton who always follows Cena's lead who else is there?

 

[Upgrade Dave]

No doubt. The stunt that they pulled at Mania would have me fuming too and let's not forget how he treated Cena at Backlash 03 Are you sure he didn't want to put Taker over because from all indications Taker wanted to make Lesnar a star. Taker & Lesnar are still friends to this day and i can't see Taker being cool with someone who tried to shit on him. Another feeling i have is how many of those people were even around when Brock was there? I can understand Cena if he's a little pissed but aside from Orton who always follows Cena's lead who else is there?

Not many but everyone knows the story and everyone knows the reason Vince likes to yo-you guys is to test them to see if they pull a Brock on him.
Yeah, it was Taker. They were set to feud again with Taker going over before he put in his notice. Hell, he was supposed to go over Goldberg at Mania when he put in his (short) notice.
Personally, I hope he's matured and really wants to earn the boys' respect the right way and not end up looking like Ultimate Warrior 2.0.

 

[dirtyd]

Not many but everyone knows the story and everyone knows the reason Vince likes to yo-you guys is to test them to see if they pull a Brock on him.
Yeah, it was Taker. They were set to feud again with Taker going over before he put in his notice. Hell, he was supposed to go over Goldberg at Mania when he put in his (short) notice.
Personally, I hope he's matured and really wants to earn the boys' respect the right way and not end up looking like Ultimate Warrior 2.0.

There has been a lot of speculation on Paul Heyman returning to WWE now that Brock Lesnar has returned for at least a year. Word is that there are no plans for Heyman to come in, he was not part of the negotiations and is not a part of the deal.

Heyman simply isn't available as he has other things going on.

There are people in WWE who want Heyman to come back as a sort of "talking head" or a TV personality. Heyman is based in the Northeast and could be useful as a public figure for WWE.

WWE has reached out for Heyman to do interviews and things like that but he has turned them down every time because he has other priorities.

It's possible that we see Heyman return to WWE in the future but don't bet on it happening anytime soon, based on talk that's going around.

They wouldn't need to reach out to him if they weren't jealous dumbasses in the first place. That's one problem i have with Vince/Stephanie they let their jealousy make decisions for them, everyone knew how smart Heyman was but Steph couldn't take how foolish he made her ideas look. Heyman has shit planned out 3-6 months at a time while they jump week to week, and it's why there's never a clear cut direction of where the company is going. This past Monday was the first time i felt like the company was actually trying to put together a show, when most times it feels like they just pull shit out of a hat.

 

[Johnny_2_Clips]

From what I've heard, Brock has been humbled and realizes the mistakes he's made. I'm sure he wants to make things right and if he had to, would start at the bottom but Vince sees the money signs and hopefully Lesnar proves to be a better man this time around and wants to help the younger stars instead of burying them.

 

[ScottyPiffen745]

From what I've heard, Brock has been humbled and realizes the mistakes he's made. I'm sure he wants to make things right and if he had to, would start at the bottom but Vince sees the money signs and hopefully Lesnar proves to be a better man this time around and wants to help the younger stars instead of burying them.

I hope that's the case because they need that muthafucka BAD...

 

[Johnny_2_Clips]

I hope that's the case because they need that muthafucka BAD...

Who you telling. Brock Lesnar had it all to be THE GUY in the company, but he just couldn't shake the fact that his heart was at home. Hopefully now that he has a light schedule and chased his dreams so to speak, his heart can once again be in wrestling. When that man gives it his all, you are guaranteed to be entertained.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

Who you telling. Brock Lesnar had it all to be THE GUY in the company, but he just couldn't shake the fact that his heart was at home. Hopefully now that he has a light schedule and chased his dreams so to speak, his heart can once again be in wrestling. When that man gives it his all, you are guaranteed to be entertained.

Cena is really in Brock's spot. When Brock flaked, they had to choose between Cena and Batista and they went with the younger guy despite Batista's better political connections. He's not as big as he was and he's older now with some very public health issues so his window for being "The Man" has closed but he can draw some ratings and sell some merch.
That said, it's still the same shitty booking so I refuse to get my hopes up.

 

[Johnny_2_Clips]

Cena is really in Brock's spot. When Brock flaked, they had to choose between Cena and Batista and they went with the younger guy despite Batista's better political connections. He's not as big as he was and he's older now with some very public health issues so his window for being "The Man" has closed but he can draw some ratings and sell some merch.
That said, it's still the same shitty booking so I refuse to get my hopes up.

What Brock lacks in youth, he brings presence and ability. It's been so long, I think people forget just how good of a wrestler he was. Hopefully he shakes the rust off and like I said before, actually show passion this time.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

What Brock lacks in youth, he brings presence and ability. It's been so long, I think people forget just how good of a wrestler he was. Hopefully he shakes the rust off and like I said before, actually show passion this time.

True. A one year deal with a very limited schedule is the best for both parties.