i think they had said they were considering making brooke the head of aces & eights..then that means brooke would be the"Higher Power" :rolleyes:

:hmm:
That would be stupid. She should just be Bully's valet, get one promo explaining her turn and nothing more.
The head of A&Es has to be Jeff Jarrett or someone even bigger (Eric Bischoff would suck too) or this will be anticlimatic as hell.
 
Most likely. What I'm hoping for is it turns Brooke too. Bully turning would be fine but turning Brooke would be new.
London is a great crowd period. All the UK crowds are hot since they only get American wrestling a couple times a year. I like the Impact Zone but like the ECW Arena, they've seen it all and they can be jaded.

The Impact Zone is horrible and should never be compared to the ECW Arena because that place was rocking until the very end.
 
The Impact Zone is horrible and should never be compared to the ECW Arena because that place was rocking until the very end.

Hey, Tommy Dreamer said the fans there reminded him of the ECW Arena fans so take that up with him.


So
Bret Hart says HHH was never "great" and never had any great matches. I'm not the biggest HHH guy but the dude had some great matches with a lot of guys. I don't think he's a Michaels or Flair level worker because I've never seen him take a decent guy and make him look really good but I've never seen him get carried to a great match by his opponent either.
Any opinions?
 
Hey, Tommy Dreamer said the fans there reminded him of the ECW Arena fans so take that up with him.

So
Bret Hart says HHH was never "great" and never had any great matches. I'm not the biggest HHH guy but the dude had some great matches with a lot of guys. I don't think he's a Michaels or Flair level worker because I've never seen him take a decent guy and make him look really good but I've never seen him get carried to a great match by his opponent either.
Any opinions?

:hmm: @ Bret Hart .... [cough] The last 2 Undertaker Mania matches [/cough]

Speaking of Mania, I've REALLY been out of the loop since last year's Mania, but what the hell is going on over on Smackdown.

Why does Cody Rhodes have a dirty 80s porn mustache?

Wtf is a 3MB and who's idea was it to put those 3 guys together :confused:

Why is AJ being written as a ho? It's like some asshole writer couldn't get the girl back in high school, so he decided that the problem wasn't that he didn't have game. No the problem was that all girls are sluts .... Seriously, her storyline makes no damn senses.
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:hmm: @ Bret Hart .... [cough] The last 2 Undertaker Mania matches [/cough]​


A little more Bret on HHH. I'm used to his high opinion of himself but now to shit on HHH is a little uncalled for.
http://www.layfieldreport.com/Bret-Hart-Triple-H-not-in-top-1.news

Speaking of Mania, I've REALLY been out of the loop since last year's Mania, but what the hell is going on over on Smackdown.

Why does Cody Rhodes have a dirty 80s porn mustache?

Wtf is a 3MB and who's idea was it to put those 3 guys together :confused:

Why is AJ being written as a ho? It's like some asshole writer couldn't get the girl back in high school, so he decided that the problem wasn't that he didn't have game. No the problem was that all girls are sluts .... Seriously, her storyline makes no damn senses.

If you think anyone here can make sense of the way they're using AJ, you really have been out of the loop:D. I don't have a beef with turns but this chick turned like 3 times last year.

Cody decided he needed a new look and a new way to get attention. I think it's good idea and a bad mustache.

3MB (3 Man Band) was three jobbers who they've now made a jobber tag team just as they're gimmick was getting over. It's funny but since they never win anymore, it's meaningless. TNA did a similar gimmick better with the Rock N Rave Infection.
 
So Bret Hart says HHH was never "great" and never had any great matches. I'm not the biggest HHH guy but the dude had some great matches with a lot of guys. I don't think he's a Michaels or Flair level worker because I've never seen him take a decent guy and make him look really good but I've never seen him get carried to a great match by his opponent either.
Any opinions?

HHH vs Rock - Summer Slam 98
HHH vs HBK vs Benoit - WM 20
HHH vs Undertaker - WM 28
HHH vs HBK - Royal Rumble 2004
HHH vs HBK - Summer Slam 2002
HHH vs Stone Cold - No Way Out 2001

Oh and did he forget 1 of the greatest matches in wwe history when HHH fought Cactus Jack at the Royal Rumble? I respect Bret but he sounded like a hater in this interview.
 
If you think anyone here can make sense of the way they're using AJ, you really have been out of the loop:D. I don't have a beef with turns but this chick turned like 3 times last year.
Okay, so I'm not crazy. I was sure that the last time I saw her, she was tagged up with Cena and fighting against Vicky and Dolph. Now she a bad guy and .... whatever, I'm not going down this road. I won't focus on her storyline. I'll just focus on my intense desire to fuck the living hell out of her. ​
Cody decided he needed a new look and a new way to get attention. I think it's good idea and a bad mustache.
He looked more convincing with the phantom of the opera mask. During the rumble when he was fighting with Golddust, I was trying to figure out which brother looked more weird. The one on gold paint or the one with the porn mustache.​
3MB (3 Man Band) was three jobbers who they've now made a jobber tag team just as they're gimmick was getting over. It's funny but since they never win anymore, it's meaningless. TNA did a similar gimmick better with the Rock N Rave Infection.
That's the first thing I thought of. I was waiting for Drew McIntyre to pull out a Rock Band guitar controller and hit someone. :lol:​
HHH vs Rock - Summer Slam 98
HHH vs HBK vs Benoit - WM 20
HHH vs Undertaker - WM 28
HHH vs HBK - Royal Rumble 2004
HHH vs HBK - Summer Slam 2002
HHH vs Stone Cold - No Way Out 2001
Can we add those two matches he had with Shelton Benjamin on Raw. Way back when Shelton was still a rookie and he got the upset victory over HHH. Those wasn't even PPV matches and they were brilliant. ​
 
HHH vs Rock - Summer Slam 98
HHH vs HBK vs Benoit - WM 20
HHH vs Undertaker - WM 28
HHH vs HBK - Royal Rumble 2004
HHH vs HBK - Summer Slam 2002
HHH vs Stone Cold - No Way Out 2001

Oh and did he forget 1 of the greatest matches in wwe history when HHH fought Cactus Jack at the Royal Rumble? I respect Bret but he sounded like a hater in this interview.

mmm...with the exception of maybe the Stone Cold match, those other matches had more to do with his opponent(s) then HHH if you ask me. Also, that Bad Blood match was not a great match at all. It dragged, overly long, and felt indulgent (despite HBK being involved). Their match from RAW, which you didn't include, I'd consider a great match for sure...but again, I felt that had more to do with HBK than it did with HHH.

I know it's easy to write Bret off as being a hater, but he WAS a great wrestler but everyone's definition. His opinion holds weight to me. Let me put it this way, if someone said to me, "Hey yo, I got this great lost HHH match, want to check it out?" I'd shrug and not be overly excited about it. But substitute that name with HBK, Bret, The Undertaker, or a slew of other people, I'm game.

In the end, to say HHH was never INVOLVED in a great match, I'd disagree. But the true measure of greatness, to me, is being able to be in a match with someone who kind of sucks and get greatness out of them. HBK did that with a slew of people, Bret did that with a slew of people, the Undertaker did that with some (Batista, for example, who wasn't very good at that point). HHH...I'm drawing a blank as to what slugs he had to pull to greatness. You put him in there with a slug (Steiner) and you get a nightmare inducing match.
 
mmm...with the exception of maybe the Stone Cold match, those other matches had more to do with his opponent(s) then HHH if you ask me. Also, that Bad Blood match was not a great match at all. It dragged, overly long, and felt indulgent (despite HBK being involved). Their match from RAW, which you didn't include, I'd consider a great match for sure...but again, I felt that had more to do with HBK than it did with HHH.

I know it's easy to write Bret off as being a hater, but he WAS a great wrestler but everyone's definition. His opinion holds weight to me. Let me put it this way, if someone said to me, "Hey yo, I got this great lost HHH match, want to check it out?" I'd shrug and not be overly excited about it. But substitute that name with HBK, Bret, The Undertaker, or a slew of other people, I'm game.

In the end, to say HHH was never INVOLVED in a great match, I'd disagree. But the true measure of greatness, to me, is being able to be in a match with someone who kind of sucks and get greatness out of them. HBK did that with a slew of people, Bret did that with a slew of people, the Undertaker did that with some (Batista, for example, who wasn't very good at that point). HHH...I'm drawing a blank as to what slugs he had to pull to greatness. You put him in there with a slug (Steiner) and you get a nightmare inducing match.

HHH is a great wrestler he just became a politician which means his ring work was never as strong as it used to be. Hart is great in his own right but he had a lot of help as well, Owen HBK & SCSA really kept him from bottoming out before the 90s were over, i mean look at how lackluster his WCW run turned out to be.


There was talk of doing a Money in the Bank match at WrestleMania 29 but WWE officials recently decided they do not want the match taking place on the biggest show of the year. The feeling is Money in the Bank should be left to its own pay-per-view. The idea for this year would have been to feature Ryback in the match to get him over big time but that won't be happening, at least not at WrestleMania.

This is why the quality of Mania has gone down the last few years. The MITB match is a guaranteed crowd pleaser and it helps make WM feel more special, this is just Vince not wanting to come to terms with the fact that the MITB ppv is a failure. Having MITB at Mania also lets other mid-carders shine while they try to come up with different ways to use the ladders.
 
Owen HBK & SCSA really kept him from bottoming out before the 90s were over, i mean look at how lackluster his WCW run turned out to be.


But again, Hart did get great matches out of slugs in the ring, that's a testament to him being a great wrestler. Also, he layed out EVERY ASPECT of his matches with Owen, so it's clear who was carrying who there. I tend not to get into HBK vs Bret discussions because, like 2Pac vs Biggie, it's apparently not popular to say that they were BOTH great, so I'll leave that part alone. Austin, especially pre-injury, was a great wrestler, not disagreement there. They complimented each other great in the ring, with both guys carrying their own weight.

By ALL ACCOUNTS, at this point, Hart's lackluster WCW run had very little to do with Bre, and EVERYTHING to do with the surrounding circumstances, so I'm not sure why you brought that up.
 
But again, Hart did get great matches out of slugs in the ring, that's a testament to him being a great wrestler. Also, he layed out EVERY ASPECT of his matches with Owen, so it's clear who was carrying who there. I tend not to get into HBK vs Bret discussions because, like 2Pac vs Biggie, it's apparently not popular to say that they were BOTH great, so I'll leave that part alone. Austin, especially pre-injury, was a great wrestler, not disagreement there. They complimented each other great in the ring, with both guys carrying their own weight.

By ALL ACCOUNTS, at this point, Hart's lackluster WCW run had very little to do with Bre, and EVERYTHING to do with the surrounding circumstances, so I'm not sure why you brought that up.

The only great match from a slug i can think of is Diesel at the 95 Rumble, outside of that were the matches against the other "slugs" really great matches or just watchable matches? His WCW run was a failure and he had complete control of his character which was written into his contract, so the surrounding circumstances doesn't sit with me since i just see it as him having better chemistry with the WWF guys. The only great match he had in WCW was the Owen Hart tribute match he had with Benoit on Nitro.
 
Report on lingering resentment towards The Rock
During The Rock's third WrestleMania Season Tour with WWE, there are still feelings of resentment toward him in some circles of the locker room.

Rock addressed that in a Twitter post Saturday night. "Thank U WWE Superstars for the awesome welcoming me back & getting the 'big picture' plan. You're true locker room leaders! #RoadToMania," Rock tweeted.

Not all are on-board with the "big picture plan," which is essentially that Rock's return makes everything in WWE bigger and makes everyone more money. This is especially the case after Rock's in-ring return at the Royal Rumble, which received mixed reviews backstage. The following is an exclusive break down of sources of resentment in the locker room.

- Some wrestlers noted that Rock came back to WWE looking very muscular in a way that they believe they cannot, whether it's because of the schedule or how WWE approaches their careers.

- At the Rumble, there was some resentment toward Rock because they felt he was not in great ring shape for his first match back in WWE. Now there's pressure on Rock to come back at the Elimination Chamber in two weeks in better cardio condition. Also, the pressure is on to be in-shape for WrestleMania in April, but the issue for Rock is that Mania is one month before he films "Hercules," which is a role that he has to look jacked for.

- Wrestlers with an eye for how other wrestlers perform have noted that Rock wasn't moving around much in the ring with C.M. Punk. The main point of emphasis is that Rock did not bounce or spring off the ropes as much as he used to. Rock is 40-years-old now, is carrying muscle mass, and there was ring rust at the Rumble PPV. At 40, it's starting to be noticeable and it's more difficult to shake off the ring rust.

The Rumble PPV match could be passed off as Rock holding back for the Chamber, especially knowing it would be a re-match against Punk. But, there is no hiding ring rust.

- Rock is said to have no allies from the current locker room. Rock has isolated himself behind-the-scenes, which is due to how he feels he's been treated since returning to WWE and so that he can tend to other business affairs. But, there are also stories of how Rock has gone out of his way to talk to wrestlers and offer advice. It's a touchy situation, almost on a case-by-case basis how certain wrestlers receive him, which has led to mixed feelings about Rock's presence in WWE.

Rock senses it. According to backstage sources, Rock feels like he's being scrutinized by the current locker room. After his memorable pre-match promo during the Rumble PPV, Rock carried himself like, 'How do you like that everyone who doubts me?' There was an extra spring in his step, which some observers took as either adrenaline before the match or arrogance. As an "outsider," it came across like Rock telling people, 'Don't forget that I can do that. Now, you step up and do it.'

- Also from Rock's pre-title match promo, Rock did not stray from the truth when he said he came back to WWE for the fans and for his mom, who was shown in the crowd. The message is that he did not come back to WWE for the wrestlers, especially due to how he feels he's been treated since returning.

It comes down to Rock enjoying the live-crowd interaction and having a rich family tradition in the wrestling business. Rock is certainly getting paid nicely and there is loyalty to WWE and Vince McMahon, but his main loyalty is to pro wrestling genre, and WWE is the biggest stage.

- Another source of locker room resentment is the feeling that Rock is using his planned WWE Title run as a marketing tool for his movie career. Wrestlers feel like Rock is telling lapsed wrestling fans that he's "part of WWE again" and he still likes wrestling, so come see my latest movie. Essentially, the relationship is mutually beneficial for both Rock and WWE, which will be getting plenty of mainstream exposure when Rock starts promoting his 2013 slate of movies.

If this is true then this explains why the current roster is unwatchable, it a dirt sheet report so take it for what it's worth but Rock's tweet did seem to hint towards it. Guys like Sheamus & Ziggler have supported him but i feel like there is still some on Cena's side. Honestly im going to give the WWE 2 months after he leaves before they go back to shit again, hell outside of Punk & Rock last monday was embarrassing to watch.
 
HHH vs Rock - Summer Slam 98
HHH vs HBK vs Benoit - WM 20
HHH vs Undertaker - WM 28
HHH vs HBK - Royal Rumble 2004
HHH vs HBK - Summer Slam 2002
HHH vs Stone Cold - No Way Out 2001

Oh and did he forget 1 of the greatest matches in wwe history when HHH fought Cactus Jack at the Royal Rumble? I respect Bret but he sounded like a hater in this interview.

I can give or take some of those matches and have to give more credit to his opponent. HHH's problem was he never figured out he was more Harley Race than Ric Flair or at least he never stuck with it. His best matches were when he played a bad ass heel instead of trying to be the "Cerebral Assasin".
Bret is a hater. Whether he's right or wrong is a separate issue.:D

But again, Hart did get great matches out of slugs in the ring, that's a testament to him being a great wrestler. Also, he layed out EVERY ASPECT of his matches with Owen, so it's clear who was carrying who there. I tend not to get into HBK vs Bret discussions because, like 2Pac vs Biggie, it's apparently not popular to say that they were BOTH great, so I'll leave that part alone. Austin, especially pre-injury, was a great wrestler, not disagreement there. They complimented each other great in the ring, with both guys carrying their own weight.

By ALL ACCOUNTS, at this point, Hart's lackluster WCW run had very little to do with Bre, and EVERYTHING to do with the surrounding circumstances, so I'm not sure why you brought that up.

Can't blame Bret for his run in WCW. Most of his matches had stupid gimmicky/storyline finishes. The two high profile matches that werent like that were his best two matches: Owen tribute match and his debut with Flair.
I can't name a great match HHH's ever brought out of a lesser guy but Bret doesn't have a stellar record of doing that himself. He helped Diesel but I've seen him have some real stinkers with a lot of different guys as he was working his way up the ranks (if you're in a very forgiving mood, check out his Tuesday in Texas match with Skinner in 91. Skinner was a horrible gimmick but Steve Keirn was a good wrestler).

Report on lingering resentment towards The Rock


If this is true then this explains why the current roster is unwatchable, it a dirt sheet report so take it for what it's worth but Rock's tweet did seem to hint towards it. Guys like Sheamus & Ziggler have supported him but i feel like there is still some on Cena's side. Honestly im going to give the WWE 2 months after he leaves before they go back to shit again, hell outside of Punk & Rock last monday was embarrassing to watch.

I don't think there's anyone there on Cena's side, they're just taking their frustration out on the wrong guy.
Two months? They're still shit now with the occasional highlight or good/great match like usual.
 
Report on lingering resentment towards The Rock

I hope to God that none of that is true, because that sounds like the most bitch-made story ever!!!! The Rock is there giving you guys some shine and helping to make you a lot of money. Rock's next promo should be him coming to the ring and telling everybody in the back to man the fuck up and say thank you. ​
 
Hell has frozen over....Bruno Sammartino is going into the WWE Hall Of Fame.


I just saw that and that's good news.
There is no WWE Hall of Fame without Bruno Sammartino. They could have Hogan, Savage, Piper, Stone Cold, Rock, HHH, and Andre and the idea would still be illegitimate without Bruno.
 
I just saw that and that's good news.
There is no WWE Hall of Fame without Bruno Sammartino. They could have Hogan, Savage, Piper, Stone Cold, Rock, HHH, and Andre and the idea would still be illegitimate without Bruno.


Yeah, but Randy Savage still ain't in there...
 
Mark Henry being back :dance: Though I kind of wish that he came back against somebody else. Also why have him go after Rey Mysterio right after having Rey tap out clean?

Also leave it to Michael Cole to get facts wrong. Daniel Bryan beat Big Show for the title not Mark Henry.

Yeah, but Randy Savage still ain't in there...
Very true. And I'm still waiting on Rick Rude to be inducted too in addition to people like Demolition.
 
Yeah, but Randy Savage still ain't in there...

His brother seems pretty open to the idea so unless his widow is going to carry on whatever beef he had with Vince, he should get in sooner rather than later.

Mark Henry being back :dance: Though I kind of wish that he came back against somebody else. Also why have him go after Rey Mysterio right after having Rey tap out clean?

Also leave it to Michael Cole to get facts wrong. Daniel Bryan beat Big Show for the title not Mark Henry.

For Cole, it's one step forward, two steps back. They only talked about Show losing in 45 secs every week. Daniel Bryan never pinned Mark Henry.
I don't get why he beat up Rey but if this leads to him smashing Kane and DB too and establishing himself as the biggest monster in WWE, I'm good.
DB vs Rey should be a dream match but they haven't been allowed to have it yet.
:smh: at Cody, Barrett and Cesaro both getting pinned clean in consecutive weeks. This is why with all the talent they have, none of them mean anything, especially their heels.


Very true. And I'm still waiting on Rick Rude to be inducted too in addition to people like Demolition.

Damn shame they haven't inducted Demolition yet. Bill Eadie isn't a young man (he still wrestles though) so clock's ticking. Demolition might be the first great homegrown tag team in WWF/E history. The Bulldogs and the Hart Foundation came from other places, not as whole teams but they had all been together before. Same with Strikeforce and the Rougeaus. Masked Superstar and Krusher Khruschev were two completely separate guys they repackaged and made the top tag team in the company. They deserve to be in.
 
This is shaping up to be the best HOF class since the 2004 class, but the fact that Drew Carey & " The Fridge" were inducted before him is flat out embarrassing. If they pulled off the shocker and announce that the GOAT Savage will be inducted as well then i might go into a wrestling coma:lol:

As for last night that had to be one of the worst main event beatdowns i've ever seen, it felt like no one knew what to do and it started off with a very awkward Maddox promo. Punk vs Jericho was a great tv match which wasn't a shock, and i like how Punk is acting just like a person who lost a title would act. Henry returning was great and he legit scares the shit out of people which makes him a believable bad guy. Cena cut a funny serious promo and that's not a good thing, he reminds me of the class clown who tries to turn into a bad ass.
 
This is shaping up to be the best HOF class since the 2004 class, but the fact that Drew Carey & " The Fridge" were inducted before him is flat out embarrassing. If they pulled off the shocker and announce that the GOAT Savage will be inducted as well then i might go into a wrestling coma:lol:

They've been begging him for years so I don't hold Carey and Perry against them on that (I just dont think either should be there for basically one or two guest appearances).
There's talk of Cyndi Lauper being inducted and I think that's a good idea. She really did help build the company in the 80s.
 
They've been begging him for years so I don't hold Carey and Perry against them on that (I just dont think either should be there for basically one or two guest appearances).
There's talk of Cyndi Lauper being inducted and I think that's a good idea. She really did help build the company in the 80s.

Lauper definitely had a huge hand in the 80s boom and deserves to be in the celebrity wing. I hope one day Martha will let them induct Owen because he was always great to watch, and im not just saying that because he died.
 
Wow. I forgot how small Mysterio use to be. He up there looking like Sincara. :lol:

Mark Henry came in and showed his ass on Monday Night. That's how a dominant monster is suppose to be. WWE been missing Henry but i'm not too excited about him and Rey going up against each other.
 
I still want to Butch Reed in HOF. His work with Simmons deserves recognition. Still waiting on Vince to release old Midsouth-UWF DVD's as well.
 
Lauper definitely had a huge hand in the 80s boom and deserves to be in the celebrity wing. I hope one day Martha will let them induct Owen because he was always great to watch, and im not just saying that because he died.

:yes:

Hey D
If Taker doesn't make it, Punk not only should be in the title match but he should win it by pinning the Rock. Doesn't have to be clean bur it can't be the typical "Cena hits the AA on Rock, Punk kicks Cena in the head and gets the pin" finish.

I still want to Butch Reed in HOF. His work with Simmons deserves recognition. Still waiting on Vince to release old Midsouth-UWF DVD's as well.

The Mid South dvd is on the way this summer. I've been racking up on MidSouth dvds from the Watts' website and YouTube before the footage gets WWE'd up or snatched down.
Reed deserves to be in, mos def. Anyone that ever headlined in the Superdome and the Omni should be in somebody's HoF.

Really? So you just gonna copy and paste my post from the WCW vs WWF in the 90's thread? :hmm:

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