THE WRESTLING THREAD: HHH KEEPS DOING HHH THINGS.....

[The Pope]

Its going to be interesting to see what plans they have for Brock and Undertaker because they are sure to be at Wrestlemania aren't they? We might get a HHH sighting though if its a HHH v Brock rematch then i'm good.

They plan on having Triple HHH and Lesnar go at it again, as far as Taker goes, some websites are saying he might not be in good enough shape to perform but if he does wrestle, the only person I think they could match him up with is Punk, I cant think of no one else on the current roster that they would pick

 

[Alphachino]

They plan on having Triple HHH and Lesnar go at it again, as far as Taker goes, some websites are saying he might not be in good enough shape to perform but if he does wrestle, the only person I think they could match him up with is Punk, I cant think of no one else on the current roster that they would pick

OMG wtf is WM gonna be a recap of Vinces dream match failures of 2012?

 

[Deltronz]

Fuck y'all, I'm glad The Rock is the champ, even if only until WM. Rock has been super generous his entire career, so I hardly see it as him burying Punk, and I'm a CM Punk fan.


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[dirtyd]

I loved the match and it was easily better than Rock vs Cena, i hated that it ended with the peoples elbow but he's won with that move plenty of times. Im getting a kick out of all the Punk fans calling this one of the worst matches ever, and Dwayne needs to go back to Hollywood (these are the kind of fans who've never seen pussy before)

 

[Alphachino]

I loved the match and it was easily better than Rock vs Cena, i hated that it ended with the peoples elbow but he's won with that move plenty of times. Im getting a kick out of all the Punk fans calling this one of the worst matches ever, and Dwayne needs to go back to Hollywood (these are the kind of fans who've never seen pussy before)

Damn I was hoping that when the lights went off Lesnar would've had Rock up for the f5....

 

[Alphachino]

I loved the match and it was easily better than Rock vs Cena, i hated that it ended with the peoples elbow but he's won with that move plenty of times. Im getting a kick out of all the Punk fans calling this one of the worst matches ever, and Dwayne needs to go back to Hollywood (these are the kind of fans who've never seen pussy before)

Yeah I would've preferred the Rock bottom but whatever. once they reversed the decision I knew it was over for Punk. Rock VS Punk saved a otherwise shitty Rumble PPV.

No surprise entrants (Godfather was a surprise tho)
For the love of Machoman let Ziggler win something dammit!! This nigga kills it everytime and yet Vince keeps making him everyones punchingbag

 

[Deltronz]

Damn I was hoping that when the lights went off Lesnar would've had Rock up for the f5....

Gotta admit, I would've loved for that to happen.


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[Rocky Miavia]

 

[dirtyd]

Hearing reports about the lack of crowd reaction during the main event is a little disappointing, but that's not on Rock or Punk since it was just bad timing. If they had gone on before the Rumble then it would've had a much better reception but the Rumble would've suffered, but towards the end the crowd was on their feet especially when Rock told them to restart. I also like reading the responses of Rock being too old and how he's getting gassed too quilckly, it's like people have gotten so use to seeing super Cena that they forgot what selling looks like. I give this ppv a 6/10 and all 6 got to Rock & CM Punk for doing their best to save a fucking 4 match ppv

 

[Simply Sickenin']

I'm wondering how they'll write the Rock out of having to defend the title in the Elimination Chamber next month.

And when are they going to plan their Lesnar card?​

 

[Upgrade Dave]

I wouldn't put things on The Rock. Him and Cena sucked because neither is a great wrestler. That was all about the buildup and unfortunately the buildup was lackluster. We all pretty much knew that Rock was going to win this but the buildup was awesome. Unfortunately the execution of him winning the title from Punk was not good just like the buildup to Rock and Cena taking on Awesome Truth was as bad as it could possibly be. He should be a regular until Mania and with Rock having movies coming out soon you know that the company hopes that while promoting the movies they'll get some promotion as well.

Rock and Punk had great chemistry and they made this match come across as a big time match and not just another title match. Rock was expected to win and the way they did it was okay. Punk can bitch about how he was cheated and he did get a pinfall on the Rock so he still looks kinda strong. I just don't like his outlook for the rest of the winter/spring. Job here. Job somehow at EC. Job to Taker at Mania. Not a good look.
Rock's scheduled to be there regularly until Mania and with Brock, Taker, HHH coming back, and Jericho back it should be an exciting couple months even though the penciled in main matches dont really excite me because they look pretty predictable.
As a ppv, nothing special. ADR/Big Show was a strong first match but if there was any time for Ziggler to cash in, it was there. I hope he doesnt do it after EC and instead saves it until after Mania when they might give him a real run.
Every time they do 90 second intervals for the Rumble, it kills the Rumble. It really shows how important it is to give them 2 minutes between guys. How about they stop showing the same Rumble stats video that they show on every show for weeks befoe the ppv and stop with the individual promos and then they would have more time.
The Rumble started strong I thought but by halfway through, it started to drag. There was no real monster that eliminates half a dozen guys in a row. That's what got Diesel and Kane over and would have been a nice spot for Broadus (if they wanted to do something with him) or more likely Ryback.
Nothing was out and out bad but I would have hated to have been there live and sit through so many videos, which can bring a live audience down.


Speaking of Brock, he just signed a new two year deal so I wonder what else they're going to do with him? I see him doing a rematch with Cena but after his rematch with HHH, I have a hard time picturing him working with anyone else. Maybe they get him and Rock back in together? Punk turns again and they do that? I guess Sheamus (that would be a hard hitting match), maybe Orton.

 

[dirtyd]

Rock and Punk had great chemistry and they made this match come across as a big time match and not just another title match. Rock was expected to win and the way they did it was okay. Punk can bitch about how he was cheated and he did get a pinfall on the Rock so he still looks kinda strong. I just don't like his outlook for the rest of the winter/spring. Job here. Job somehow at EC. Job to Taker at Mania. Not a good look.
Rock's scheduled to be there regularly until Mania and with Brock, Taker, HHH coming back, and Jericho back it should be an exciting couple months even though the penciled in main matches dont really excite me because they look pretty predictable.
As a ppv, nothing special. ADR/Big Show was a strong first match but if there was any time for Ziggler to cash in, it was there. I hope he doesnt do it after EC and instead saves it until after Mania when they might give him a real run.
Every time they do 90 second intervals for the Rumble, it kills the Rumble. It really shows how important it is to give them 2 minutes between guys. How about they stop showing the same Rumble stats video that they show on every show for weeks befoe the ppv and stop with the individual promos and then they would have more time.
The Rumble started strong I thought but by halfway through, it started to drag. There was no real monster that eliminates half a dozen guys in a row. That's what got Diesel and Kane over and would have been a nice spot for Broadus (if they wanted to do something with him) or more likely Ryback.
Nothing was out and out bad but I would have hated to have been there live and sit through so many videos, which can bring a live audience down.


Speaking of Brock, he just signed a new two year deal so I wonder what else they're going to do with him? I see him doing a rematch with Cena but after his rematch with HHH, I have a hard time picturing him working with anyone else. Maybe they get him and Rock back in together? Punk turns again and they do that? I guess Sheamus (that would be a hard hitting match), maybe Orton.

I don't think Taker is going to make it to Mania this year because from all reports he's in horrible shape. I wish Ryback would've won the Rumble but his elimination showed exactly what's wrong with this company, the entire arena was chanting for him then they went silent when Cena won. They had a chance to do something different but the lazy writing took the predictable generic route and it killed the hype for the ME.

I think Punk will be fine since he really did a bit of a change up, and the good news for him is a lot of people are interested in seeing where he's headed for the next few months so that opens up some possibilities ( triple threat mania?).

 

[Upgrade Dave]

I don't think Taker is going to make it to Mania this year because from all reports he's in horrible shape. I wish Ryback would've won the Rumble but his elimination showed exactly what's wrong with this company, the entire arena was chanting for him then they went silent when Cena won. They had a chance to do something different but the lazy writing took the predictable generic route and it killed the hype for the ME.

I think Punk will be fine since he really did a bit of a change up, and the good news for him is a lot of people are interested in seeing where he's headed for the next few months so that opens up some possibilities ( triple threat mania?).

No, Taker's coming back. He called them and said he was ready to go and he wanted to face Punk.
You're right on the Ryback thing. They know he's not going to win but they should at least let him Hulk out for a while and go crazy and then fuck him out of the victory with some outside interference (Mark Henry was actually backstage, they just chose to not use him). Ryback should have had at least 7 eliminations (the Sheamus elimination was awesome). But Dolph should have had a few more too for a guy who was in it for almost 50 minutes.
WWE triple threats suck. They're always the same: two fight, one guy lays down. Some double teaming and a bunch of pinfall breakups. I was glad to see TNA bring back the 3 way elimination match with Hardy/Aries/Roode a couple weeks ago.
Having so much attention on him and him getting beaten in every major match is a bad look for a guy you want to be a headliner going forward. I've long been a proponent of someone ending "The Streak" and I think Punk should do it but I don't expect it.
You know I'm not a Cena guy but I do love how he makes it a point to get on camera with the "We Hate Cena" guy.

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Rock bullshits on the promos a lot but that one, last night, that was a killer. He tapped into some Dusty Rhodes shit on that one. Punk carried him a little in the ring but damn, that was a great promo from the Rock.
They kill me with the champ coming to the ring first. That's just bullshit.

 

[Simply Sickenin']

They kill me with the champ coming to the ring first. That's just bullshit.

That shit kills me every time. There should be a rule set in stone across ALL sports. The reigning champion gets introduce last .... ALWAYS .... PERIOD.​

 

[dirtyd]

No, Taker's coming back. He called them and said he was ready to go and he wanted to face Punk.
You're right on the Ryback thing. They know he's not going to win but they should at least let him Hulk out for a while and go crazy and then fuck him out of the victory with some outside interference (Mark Henry was actually backstage, they just chose to not use him). Ryback should have had at least 7 eliminations (the Sheamus elimination was awesome). But Dolph should have had a few more too for a guy who was in it for almost 50 minutes.
WWE triple threats suck. They're always the same: two fight, one guy lays down. Some double teaming and a bunch of pinfall breakups. I was glad to see TNA bring back the 3 way elimination match with Hardy/Aries/Roode a couple weeks ago.
Having so much attention on him and him getting beaten in every major match is a bad look for a guy you want to be a headliner going forward. I've long been a proponent of someone ending "The Streak" and I think Punk should do it but I don't expect it.
You know I'm not a Cena guy but I do love how he makes it a point to get on camera with the "We Hate Cena" guy.

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Rock bullshits on the promos a lot but that one, last night, that was a killer. He tapped into some Dusty Rhodes shit on that one. Punk carried him a little in the ring but damn, that was a great promo from the Rock.
They kill me with the champ coming to the ring first. That's just bullshit.

Taker can wrestle if he wants but that match last year was all about drama because the actual match was very average imo.

Triple threats can be great (Rock/Angle/Taker & HHH/HBK/Benoit WM20) but it's all in the how the wrestlers set it up. As demonstrated last night Rock & Punk can work very well together and Cena has chemistry with Punk, so i could see them having a great match if it were to happen.


The Rock promo was confusing at 1st but damn the people inside the arena loved it, but sadly it shows what's missing with a lot of these current wrestlers. Punk is the only person right now who could do it but after him there's no one imo.

 

[The Pope]

- F4Wonline.com reports that word at Sunday's Royal Rumble pay-per-view was that officials were considering a CM Punk vs. The Rock rematch for Elimination Chamber. The original plan was for The Rock to compete in the Chamber match but they may end up changing that.

I could see Punk / Rock at the Elimination Chamber in a rematch, but that leaves the question of what would the RAW EC match be for ????? only thing I could think of would be the new #1 contender for the Title after Wrestlemania

 

[Rocky Miavia]

That shit kills me every time. There should be a rule set in stone across ALL sports. The reigning champion gets introduce last .... ALWAYS .... PERIOD.​

Not if it's The Rock and not if it's Stone Cold Steve Austin.

 

[RiverCity]

Not if it's The Rock and not if it's Stone Cold Steve Austin.

rocks the biggest star, but that was an insult to punk. punk was champ 4 times longer than rocks longest reign.

 

[RiverCity]

cena/rock 2 on the way

 

[Alphachino]

cena/rock 2 on the way

Nobody over the age of 10 wants to see that bullshit. Thanks BGOL for saving me 60 bucks, better used for pizzas and soda for the kids

 

[The Pope]

cena/rock 2 on the way

As well as Triple HHH/ Lesnar 2​

 

[O.J PIMPSON]

I guarantee if its Rock/Cena 2 Cena won't do those gay ass smiling promos this time because he's going over this time. I think he bullshitted with it last year cause he knew he wasn't going to win, so he undersold everything. Now that he winning this year, he'll sell the emotion like a mother fucker!!!!

 

[The Pope]

I see the Cena/Rock 2 buildup has already begun....

edit: It's about time The Shield beat the shit out of Cena

 

[Nochturnal]

Naomi!!!!!!

 

[RiverCity]

lesnar was a suprise

 

[c_commander]

Lesnar is back, so I guess Triple HHH will be back very soon

Though I still want to see how Heyman explains himself to Punk because I still think that Punk didn't know about Heyman's arrangements. Well I guess that'll be how they separate them while letting Heyman do his thing with Brock.

 

[Darrkman]

Though I still want to see how Heyman explains himself to Punk because I still think that Punk didn't know about Heyman's arrangements. Well I guess that'll be how they separate them while letting Heyman do his thing with Brock.

Lesnar, Punk, The Shield.....a new Dangerous Alliance.

 

[c_commander]

And it's great to see that Trish Stratus' sexy ass is going to the Hall of Fame. She came a long way during her career in the WWE. Now they need to get Ravishing Rick Rude in the Hall of Fame as well.

 

[suntannedsuperman757]

I'd figure I'd just drop this here. This promo had me in tears...

 

[dirtyd]

Nobody over the age of 10 wants to see that bullshit. Thanks BGOL for saving me 60 bucks, better used for pizzas and soda for the kids

Cena saying there were times when Rock couldn't hold his jock was , but seriously if i had my way i would make it Rock vs Punk as the ME for Mania since they just play off each other so well. Cena/Rock was year long train wreck with Cena needed the wwe & Rock to make him look equal, whereas Punk just feels at home going against the G.O.A.T.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

Taker can wrestle if he wants but that match last year was all about drama because the actual match was very average imo.

The drama is what makes matches great.

Triple threats can be great (Rock/Angle/Taker & HHH/HBK/Benoit WM20) but it's all in the how the wrestlers set it up. As demonstrated last night Rock & Punk can work very well together and Cena has chemistry with Punk, so i could see them having a great match if it were to happen.

All of those were a decade ago. It's been done to death since then like finding screwy finishes for "I Quit" matches.

The Rock promo was confusing at 1st but damn the people inside the arena loved it, but sadly it shows what's missing with a lot of these current wrestlers. Punk is the only person right now who could do it but after him there's no one imo.

As long as everyone's so tightly scripted, we'll never see who has the chops. No one's real personality is allowed to shine.

I guarantee if its Rock/Cena 2 Cena won't do those gay ass smiling promos this time because he's going over this time. I think he bullshitted with it last year cause he knew he wasn't going to win, so he undersold everything. Now that he winning this year, he'll sell the emotion like a mother fucker!!!!

In the old boy's defense, he sold that loss better than he's done anything in years.

lesnar was a suprise

We all knew he was coming back but this was a surprising way to do it. I like how it always seems like Paul has only the slightest bit of control over him. That might be how they get him and Punk at odds eventually (with a two yr deal, he's going to have to face more than Cena and HHH).

Punk just feels at home going against the G.O.A.T.

He did look comfortable with Flair and Austin, didn't he?

 

[The Pope]

We all knew he was coming back but this was a surprising way to do it. I like how it always seems like Paul has only the slightest bit of control over him. That might be how they get him and Punk at odds eventually (with a two yr deal, he's going to have to face more than Cena and HHH).

Do you think they'll consider turning Punk back face if he and Lesnar do start a feud ???? I can see Punk still being heel up till Mania time. Like you said Lesnar just can't feud with Cena and HHH for two years especially since the Triple HHH feud will be only till after Mania, even though I'm sure Lesnar won't be a full time wrestler

 

[dirtyd]

The drama is what makes matches great.

Yes the drama was great but Taker looked really old & slow and HHH basically carried that match.

All of those were a decade ago. It's been done to death since then like finding screwy finishes for "I Quit" matches.

They've been done to death but that doesn't mean they still can't put on a classic.

As long as everyone's so tightly scripted, we'll never see who has the chops. No one's real personality is allowed to shine.

True, but i also think some people are just duds no matter how much free rein they would be allowed.

He did look comfortable with Flair and Austin, didn't he?

He looked good against Flair but most people didn't see the sit down with Austin for WWE 13, so all they have to go on is a very lackluster backstage promo when Austin was guest host. I enjoy Punk more when he's selling a storyline and not breaking the 4th wall with meaningless shoot promos, his feud with Rock shows why he was meant to do this because he knows that it's not just what you say but your mannerisms are just as important.

Finally was i the only person pissed at Cena shitting all over the "Big Gold Belt"? Stuff like that is one of the reasons why i can't stand him since he could've made his point without belittling a title that has more significance then the one he wants to challenge for.

 

[The Pope]

- Ryback vs. CM Punk will be headlining upcoming WWE live events with WWE Champion The Rock only working TV and pay-per-view events.

- As of Sunday, Randy Orton vs. Sheamus was still planned as the World Heavyweight Title match at WrestleMania 29.​

 

[Upgrade Dave]

Do you think they'll consider turning Punk back face if he and Lesnar do start a feud ???? I can see Punk still being heel up till Mania time. Like you said Lesnar just can't feud with Cena and HHH for two years especially since the Triple HHH feud will be only till after Mania, even though I'm sure Lesnar won't be a full time wrestler

I think they will but not any time soon. Lesnar's two yr deal is the same as the one he's under now, with a limited schedule. Punk failing to get the title back from Rock might be used as an excuse for Heyman to sour on him and they split and Paul sics Brock on him. A really bad Terry Funk-piledrives-Ric Flair-through-a-table scale asswhooping by Brock would get sympathy back on Punk, who about 1/3 of the audience still cheers anyway.
I think there's still mileage in heel Punk but just the lack of strong marquee faces will probably force them to turn him.

Yes the drama was great but Taker looked really old & slow and HHH basically carried that match.

Little bit. But that's why you put him with someone that can carry the load or at least 55% of it, similar to Flair/Michaels at Mania. Flair definitely was old but Michaels carried him to his last truly great match.

They've been done to death but that doesn't mean they still can't put on a classic.

No, it doesn't. But considering limited Cena is, how blown up the Rock gets, and how WWE produces matches, it would be less likely for them to have a match worthy of the Mania main event.

True, but i also think some people are just duds no matter how much free rein they would be allowed.

That's the truth but I don't know who they are until they're allowed that free rein. Titus O'Neill's biggest moment used to be "If you're going to win, make it a win". Remember that shit? Who knew he could talk and be so funny and be funny in a heel way?
I at the thought that Michael Hayes, Ted Dibiase and Arn Anderson work/worked backstage and the promos aren't any better than they are.

He looked good against Flair but most people didn't see the sit down with Austin for WWE 13, so all they have to go on is a very lackluster backstage promo when Austin was guest host. I enjoy Punk more when he's selling a storyline and not breaking the 4th wall with meaningless shoot promos, his feud with Rock shows why he was meant to do this because he knows that it's not just what you say but your mannerisms are just as important.

Man, Punk hasn't done a shoot promo since he left ROH. His breaking the fourth wall the way he does is what makes his promos stand out in a company where people say they're going to "destroy" and "annihilate" each other (who talks like that that doesnt live in Metropolis or Gotham City?). He's always advancing a storyline and does a better job of it than anyone working for WWE. I credit him but I also credit Vince for giving him the freedom.
You said he felt at home with the GOAT so I assumed you meant Flair, him being the greatest and all.

Finally was i the only person pissed at Cena shitting all over the "Big Gold Belt"? Stuff like that is one of the reasons why i can't stand him since he could've made his point without belittling a title that has more significance then the one he wants to challenge for.

You were not! What was that about??!! I know the "World title" is the lesser title but you can't talk down on it and the champion holding it. That dude is so stupid. If he's scripted, someone needs to be fired. If he's freestyling, he needs to be scripted. Del Rio just had two really tough LMS matches with the Big Show, is a 2 time WWE champ and has beaten Cena before. Why would challenging him be "easier"?
If I'm a producer on Smackdown tonight, I make sure ADR briefly addresses that before he goes back to his feud with Show. They can't let that slight slide.
Wishful thinking.