THE WRESTLING THREAD: HHH KEEPS DOING HHH THINGS.....
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Depends how they set it up. They could give him the win at Backlash. Remember Backlash 2000? Rock lost in the Fatal 4 way at WM 2000 to HHH, then at Backlash won.- that pop at Backlash was the best one in his career. - mind you Vince definitely was definitely in the creative at that time.
If they were trying to keep Cody’s heat then when Cody came out on RAW there would’ve been no talking just straight fist flying. Officials come out break it up, and Cody snaps beats up officials, gets arrested, later that night Roman gives his usual speech/shtick and suddenly the titantron comes on, we see Jimmy and Jey walking towards the bloodline plane when out of nowhere it explodes, when they turn to go back to the car it’s spray painted with the words REMATCH. Cut back to Roman, Paul, and Solo in the ring just staring while the crowd screams “You Fucked Up “ until the lower 3rd credits come up.
- similar to when Austin blew up the DX bus when it was announced Austin was going to be the enforcer for Rock vs HHH at Backlash 2000.
Right now is the perfect time for Cody to be on some real nightmare shit ( making ppls lives a living hell) like Austin did. He may to go off script in order for Vince to really believe in him bc as of now there’s nothing real nightmarish about him.
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If I can add my 2 cents relating to Orange Cassidy let's not act like WWE didn't have someone being Eric Brichoff's mentally challenged nephew who was one half of the tag team champions and was over. Orange Cassidy has a fan base and until fans turn on him you keep giving the people what they want. Rather he changes things up only time will tell.
I stopped responding to the blatant bias posts months ago. Spaceghost made a post about the bias agenda spewing tribalism over the weekend that goes comes up in here. I feel like there's fans just want good entertainment from the industry (whatever you choose to watch) and there's fans don't accept anything beyond the WWE style of entertainment. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Just keep it 100. There's a lot of good and bad in both companies.
Just my 2 cents.
Groomed? He was dogshit in WWE. That's why he left. He was no star in WWE. He left and became a star THEN went back.
He left AEW because he wanted to be the booker and Tony said no.
WWE is only big in regard to money and slick production not ACTUAL WRESTLING. When it comes to actual wrestling New Japan and AEW are top dog.
Those same writers that crafted that Bloodline angle for Roman when he failed over and over to get over as a baby face can craft something for Cody. Move the needle? In WWE you're only as good as the angle they develop for you.
BINGO! I personally respond to @EPDC , @c_commander and @XXXplosive 's tribal nonsense because it's fun to me and they're good sports about it. At the end of the day I want ALL wrestling to be good.
At the same time you can't take off your shades of hate for Vince McMahon. It's a matter of style and caliber of wrestling AEW is botchmania they are not as polished of a finished product as the Wrestlers in WWE.
It's common to see alot of botched spots in AEW when you see a Top Dolla or Shotzi fucking up in the Ring that shit stands out in WWE.
This has nothing to do with tribalism. I like all wrestling promotions. Hell ECW was my favorite and their wrestling was dogshit. I like the entertainment aspect. Don't act like the caliber of Wrestlers are the same. I'll compare it to football yes there are fast wide recievers in the USFL and if given a chance a few may succeed in the NFL but there are only so many spots. But the quality of receivers overall are better in the NFL than any other league. The same is true of the G league vs NBA and the same is true when I watch these current promotions.
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It's funny I'm considered a "WWE fanboy", yet I've been to an AEW PPV within the last year. How many of y'all can say that?
At the end of the day I want to see a good product in BOTH promotions.
Wrestling is always best when there are two good promotions around like WCW and WWF during the Attitude Era.
Regarding Vince being "back", some of these performers that have a problem with it need to get out of their fucking feelings and realize this is a BUSINESS. Vince will always have his hand in WWE somehow. They just need to accept that. Just how much remains to be seen.
If Bray wants to walk, let him walk. His return has been a disaster and he seems to be headcase. Not worth keeping around.
Bayley is a good talent to have around, but she's not affecting the bottom line there. She's replaceable.
If she wants to go to AEW, get a big pop for one night and then get lost in the shuffle like everyone else, have at it.
If Asuka wants to go back to Japan and do all her cool moves for a fraction of the pay and a fraction of the viewing audience, have at it.
At the end of the day I want to see a good product in BOTH promotions.
Wrestling is always best when there are two good promotions around like WCW and WWF during the Attitude Era.
Regarding Vince being "back", some of these performers that have a problem with it need to get out of their fucking feelings and realize this is a BUSINESS. Vince will always have his hand in WWE somehow. They just need to accept that. Just how much remains to be seen.
If Bray wants to walk, let him walk. His return has been a disaster and he seems to be headcase. Not worth keeping around.
Bayley is a good talent to have around, but she's not affecting the bottom line there. She's replaceable.
If she wants to go to AEW, get a big pop for one night and then get lost in the shuffle like everyone else, have at it.
If Asuka wants to go back to Japan and do all her cool moves for a fraction of the pay and a fraction of the viewing audience, have at it.
Again, funny we're tribalists and fanboys but dude can't hide his disdain for anything WWE-related and obsession with anything Japanese-related.
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You're comparing a current joke wrestler in one company who they're trying to elevate to main event status to another joke wrestler from 20 years ago who was comedy relief and mid card, at best. OK
Lolz motherfuckers hate watch WWE just so they can post about their disdain for Vince and everything WWE....
I never understand why people "hate watch" something. If it ain't your thing, why not just do what I do when it comes to AEW, and just not watch it.
It is really easy to miss a wrestling show if you don't like the product or promotion.
I never understand why people "hate watch" something. If it ain't your thing, why not just do what I do when it comes to AEW, and just not watch it.
It is really easy to miss a wrestling show if you don't like the product or promotion.
The "Yellow Fever" in wrestling is really weird to me. Yeah they have done some innovative shit over the years, but from wrestlers (Omega/Sasha) to fans, the obsession with anything Japanese always makes me look at those types with a side eye.Again, funny we're tribalists and fanboys but dude can't hide his disdain for anything WWE-related and love of anything Japanese-related.
Dude ran @Helico-pterFunk , an OG of this board, out of this thread because he felt he was "spamming" the thread, yet he spams this thread with constant Japanese fanboy posts and anti-WWE propaganda posts. Ironic. So who's really the tribalist around here?
Still comparable and once again OC is over. The industry has evolved. You're a business man right? It's not hard to understand to keep milking the cow until it's out of milk.
He reminds me of Divine and AEW is his Apple. Divine was an Apple superfan/cape wearing fanboy. if Microsoft introduced something innovative, he'd pop in and claim Apple does it better, etc... Even when Apple did fuck shit they could never do no wrong in Divine's eyes.Dude ran @Helico-pterFunk , an OG of this board, out of this thread because he felt he was "spamming" the thread, yet he spams this thread with constant Japanese fanboy posts and anti-WWE propaganda posts. Ironic. So who's really the tribalist around here?
It's exactly like Divine, for those that remember him.
I understand that he sells merch and is comedy relief and that's fine to keep him around for that purpose.
But that's a small cow and it's just about out of milk.
He's a one-trick pony, a one-joke comedian, who's act is slowly growing old and tired.
And to elevate him to main event status and have other top guys job to him is ridiculous.
Yep, I remember Divine and it's exactly the same.
Even his spam posts with the laughing BGOL emoji is the same as Divine...
Come-on EP, you be making snarky remarks against AEW and Japanese wrestling too. You and Mastermind's AEW vs WWE debates be killing the vibe of this thread.
I make snarky remarks about AEW and Japanese wrestling, but I do not spam the thread with anti AEW posts nonstop nor do I post about watching a whole AEW show just to shit on it. I just don't watch AEW outside of clips on Twitter.
WWE isn't necessarily more polished they just wrestle a safer low risk style. When you do things with a higher degree of difficulty (AEW) botches are bound to happen. Sometimes moves are pulled off sometimes they're not but I'm NEVER gonna fault a wrestler for trying something high risk for our entertainment. If everybody played it safe wrestling would be boring.
Super Crazy vs. Tajiri wasn't dogshit. Sabu vs. Cactus Jack wasn't dogshit. Taz vs. Bam Bam Bigelow wasn't either. I could name all kinds of classic ECW matches.
Due to your WWE brainwashing you're trying to apply WWE style guidelines to other promotions and that's stupid. Each promotion and style should be judged within its own perimeters.
Again, funny we're tribalists and fanboys but dude can't hide his disdain for anything WWE-related and obsession with anything Japanese-related.
I call it like I see it. I was one of first ones praising WWE when Triple H took over. He was moving the product in the right direction until you know who came back. I praised Night 1 of Wrestlemaina THEN you know who put his finger prints all over night 2. Raw the following night was a disaster and it wasn't just me saying it. I don't have disdain for WWE. I just want a better product and we had that until we didn't.
As far as the Japanese promotions I talk about them because they consistently put on great shows and by getting the word out perhaps someone would be inclined to check them out.
I don't hate watch at all. Prior to Triple H taking over Raw and SmackDown I didn't watch WWE at all. THEN Triple H took over and I heard how the product was heading in the right direction so I tuned back in and liked what I saw. NOW that you know who is back I'll go back to not watching.
Exactly and that's why I don't watch Impact or NWA.
The Japanese over the years have produced the best wrestling thats why there's a gravitation toward it. If Italians were producing the best wrestling there would be gravitation towards that. Same if it was blacks, etc etc. It's not a race thing.
Dude ran @Helico-pterFunk , an OG of this board, out of this thread because he felt he was "spamming" the thread, yet he spams this thread with constant Japanese fanboy posts and anti-WWE propaganda posts. Ironic. So who's really the tribalist around here?
I didn't run anybody off he chose to leave. I'm not a moderator in this thread. I have zero control over what people post.
My original point was AEW has a long way to go before it's a legitimate threat to WWE.
From production, to storytelling to the Wrestlers performance they are a much more polished product. AEW is still in its infancy but to think they are on par with the WWE is asinine.
I like AEW WWE Impact NJPW ROH. Hell I'm one of the few to admit to liking W.O.W and I can make an honest comparison. The flipping flopping spot fest leads to a sloppy less polished product. Its over used and a cover up for Wrestlers lack of being able to tell a story in the ring. NJPW can tell a story without 1000 spots in a match.
I like the mive set fast pace styles of Kenny Omega Will Osprey the YB and even the vintage rassslin style of FTR.
It's not even about the styles but the overall product. After watching Wrestmania I don't think AEW is close to WWE and they have a long way to go if they want to take the top spot with or without Vince in charge
When WCW vs WWE wars started they had better bigger stars. AEW is missing that instead they have Y2J, Dean Ambrose Cesaro and Daniel Bryan as their top stars, all WWE rejects.
I like what TNA/Impact has done over the years. Built from within. TK seems to want to follow that mold now but he also need Television sponsorship and he will need elevated talent.
Why get WM Morrisey when Braun Strowman is available.
Why sign Taya Valkyrie when Mercedes is available.
I like the healthy debate. Keep it coming. There's alot of wrestling and information out there for example I didnt really learn about Joshis until the early 2000s. I used to go to the flea markets to buy wrestling tapes from territory promotions.
We can still debate I just won't be initiating posts anymore. That way nobody can accuse me of spamming the board with anything.
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