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ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME!!
Straight from wwe.com
World Wrestling Entertainment has come to terms on the release of WWE SmackDown Superstar Kaval (Brandon Silvestry) as of today, December 23, 2010. We wish Kaval the best in all future endeavors.
That's some fucking bullshit. They could've did something with him, he could've been the next Rey Mysterio, meanwhile they still got dead weights like Goldust, The Great Khali and his translator, Zack Ryder - who are all pretty much joke gimmicks - The Bella Twins and the handful of other divas who'll never get the Divas title until Melina gets injured again.
Vince needs to retire because now it just seems like he doesn't know what he's doing. No cruiserweight division, no real tag teams, terrible storylines, unused talent.
I wish another federation would get a TV deal
Hence, the reason I no longer get my hopes up in regards to the WWE (and especially not TNA). Although occasionally they'll do something I REALLY like in the WWE these days, there are more things that irk me than anything else (this release is a great example of that). Hope he swings through Chikara in the near future to be used properly against talent of various styles (which is also the first places that Christopher Daniels and Bryan Danielson went when they were released over bullshit).
I get the whole, "but, working in WWE means more exposure and therefore he's feeding his family. You should hope that ends up there," argument, but when I'm watching a match my eyes only see he's getting squashed every in front of an apathetic crowd (and can you blame them they way he was being used?), whereas my could be seeing him working in front of an appreciative crowd with him being booked properly in a place like Chikara.
I hear you, Del but the big companies need guys like Kaval, whether they see it or not, and as a longtime fan, I know when smaller guys like him and Rey and Danielson and AJ Styles are successful, they encourage other smaller but talented guys to try wrestling.
Agreed, they NEED guys like them, they just don't realize it (as seen by "not having anything to do with" guys like Kaval). Hence, the reason I've long lost faith in WWE (and TNA, but I only somewhat consider that a "big" company) in their current state.
You're preaching to the choir, too bad the people who should be listening aren't. Long live Chikara (and the like) who care about smaller guys (and the rest), treat titles like they're a big deal, haven't forgotten that tag team wrestling exists, and don't have a bunch of useless belts around (Knockouts Tag Team title, I'm talking to you) just for the sake of having more belts.
I hear you, Del but the big companies need guys like Kaval, whether they see it or not, and as a longtime fan, I know when smaller guys like him and Rey and Danielson and AJ Styles are successful, they encourage other smaller but talented guys to try wrestling.
So they keep Tyler Reks but drop Kaval. If they have nothing for him, why not just let him wrestle and fill in space on Superstars? There are a lot of guys (half the Nexus, plus Darren Young) who should be released before Kaval.
[QUOTENoDQ.com > WWE > WWE Releases Top 50 Submission Superstars
Posted by Steve Carrier on 12/25/2010 at 02:52 PM
WWE has recently posted a video looking at the Top 10 WWE Submission Superstars of all time. They ranked the wrestlers as followed:
10. Tazz
9. William Regal
8. Sgt. Slaughter
7. Daniel Bryan
6. Dean Malenko
5. Chris Jericho
4. Ric Flair
3. Bob Backlund
2. Kurt Angle
1. Bret Hart
Bret Hart putting over Ric Flair (given what they have said about each other publicly in recent years) while Daniel Bryan buried Flair's use of the Figure Four saying he didn't win a lot of matches with the move and wouldn't have rated it near the top.
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[QUOTENoDQ.com > WWE > WWE Releases Top 50 Submission Superstars
Posted by Steve Carrier on 12/25/2010 at 02:52 PM
WWE has recently posted a video looking at the Top 10 WWE Submission Superstars of all time. They ranked the wrestlers as followed:
10. Tazz
9. William Regal
8. Sgt. Slaughter
7. Daniel Bryan
6. Dean Malenko
5. Chris Jericho
4. Ric Flair
3. Bob Backlund
2. Kurt Angle
1. Bret Hart
Bret Hart putting over Ric Flair (given what they have said about each other publicly in recent years) while Daniel Bryan buried Flair's use of the Figure Four saying he didn't win a lot of matches with the move and wouldn't have rated it near the top.
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I guess you didn't get the memo.Chris Benoit didn't exist,never happened,he's a figment of your imagination. They could put out a poll of the Top 50 wrestlers named Chris or the Top 10 wrestlers with the last name Benoit and he won't be on it.
The other thing is is that the WWE jobbed the hell out of or didn't push Regal,Tazz, and Malenko yet they want to honor them on a list.
Who did Ted Dibease piss off? This dude is jobbing to Santino? REALLY??? TNA is in such a position to crush Vince right now! They really need to focus in and build some consistent story lines. It's becoming obvious that Vince has lost total touch with what the fans really want.![]()
TNA is is no position to touch the WWE.They thought that last year when they decided to go head to head on Monday night's and screwed it up first by going directly head to head instead of getting a 1 hour head start as they did on the first Monday night Impact which got a good rating.And the best rating of that show was.....the 8-9 hour that preceded Raw.Between that and their schizophrenic storylines they don't have a chance and that's in spite of Vince losing touch.If nothing else Vince at least knows how to push somebody.TNA can't even do that right.
TNA is is no position to touch the WWE.They thought that last year when they decided to go head to head on Monday night's and screwed it up first by going directly head to head instead of getting a 1 hour head start as they did on the first Monday night Impact which got a good rating.And the best rating of that show was.....the 8-9 hour that preceded Raw.Between that and their schizophrenic storylines they don't have a chance and that's in spite of Vince losing touch.If nothing else Vince at least knows how to push somebody.TNA can't even do that right.
When I say that they are in a position, I mean that they do have the pieces in place. They don't have to go head to head to compete. They have a stronger tag team division, and they have a nice x-division. If they were to get some real focus, they have the talent to one day be direct competition. Hogan's ego has put TNA in the poor situation it is in. Somebody needs to clean house, and take it back to the way it was before Hogan and his team came.
When I say that they are in a position, I mean that they do have the pieces in place. They don't have to go head to head to compete. They have a stronger tag team division, and they have a nice x-division. If they were to get some real focus, they have the talent to one day be direct competition. Hogan's ego has put TNA in the poor situation it is in. Somebody needs to clean house, and take it back to the way it was before Hogan and his team came.
They don't push the X division and with the exception of Beer Money and The Motor City Machineguns they don't consistently push any of the tag teams. A few months ago Desmond Wolfe and Brutus Magnus earned a tag title slot and yet they hadn't had even 1 match on the signature show Impact.Until they get a good writer in place they will continue to be in bad positioning.That's what makes their failure to get Paul Heyman in so lackluster.He and Gabe Sapolsky are the 2 guys that I know of who could create solid storylines and push the right guys in the right way.And Sapolsky isn't available either.
As long as Russo,Bischoff and Hogan are in place it's gonna be too much of the old.Just think each of the last 3 years TNA's big storyline has been a team of heels,the top heels in the company,forming together and trying to take over.Whether it was Jarrett,AMW,and Team Canada together or the Main Event Mafia or Immortal for that matter.
so Nexus is now Straight Edge Society 2.0?![]()
I heard the pushed was halted due to Concussion problems with Desmond Wolfe.
so Nexus is now Straight Edge Society 2.0?![]()
I'm curious as to how Wade Barrett is gonna fit into all this.
When I say that they are in a position, I mean that they do have the pieces in place. They don't have to go head to head to compete. They have a stronger tag team division, and they have a nice x-division. If they were to get some real focus, they have the talent to one day be direct competition. Hogan's ego has put TNA in the poor situation it is in. Somebody needs to clean house, and take it back to the way it was before Hogan and his team came.
Its fitting that the last episode of Raw ends with Cm Punk joining Nexxus being that the WWE screwed up the Nexxus storyline as well as the Straight Edge storyline. Who knows. Maybe this is them admitting they f'd up and them trying to right a wrong.
I'll say this about WWE. I feel a stable was missed on Raw this year and they give us Nexxus and while they did screw it up I can atleast appreciate the fact they did it.
Me too because I have a feeling Wade is going to have nothing to do with it. I think they're going to build him on his own which is idiotic to me. They're pushing him too fast IMO.
TNA is worse than WCW last days. No matter how poor we may think WWE is TNA is definitely worse and there's no competition. I mean just look at how they sign their talent. It causes wrestlers to occasionally miss episodes of Impact even when their currently in a storyline. Just ridiculous.
As far as talent goes I think its there in both companies. Neither company lacks talent. They lack writing. And i'm just a viewer so I hate to be THAT GUY who pretends like I know more than what professional writers do but I do in this case.I just can't believe some of the shit these guys get paid to write. And it may not be the writers. It may be just the higher ups doing what they think is best rather than letting the writers just right. But TNA has some ways to go to putting up atleast a decent program. They first off need to know what direction they want to go in because right now the show is just ridiculous. They put every wrestler in a fake ass NWO faction called Fortune or whatever the fuck they call it and only have 3 faces in Pope, Morgan and Anderson. This shit is the most ridiculous wrestling program i've ever witnessed. Its like they're copying everything that was wrong with WCW and putting it into TNA.
I agree. I think is TNA was consistent with their storylines, the show would be better. I remember it being better than what it is right now. I remember enjoying it a lot more than I did Raw or Smackdown. Right now, it just seems like every week it's something new. If it doesn't change soon, TNA is gonna be gone. If you could go in and run it, what would you change?
Around 2008 I did like TNA, as a whole, more than the WWE (if you're comparing current products at that time). They had things popping in ALL their divisions.
Doesn't even feel like the same company anymoreIt's like a bloated mess of "stuff" that doesn't gell well together at all. For all the missed opportunities and mistakes the WWE has made, even these days, they are (even though some of their choices are troubling) making new stars and generally not straight up stupid like TNA is getting.
Should just shut down for a week or two and come back with new storylines all together
That's the other thing.Why keep a young,green guy with limited potential when you can keep a guy like Kaval who is a veteran that is capable of delivering a 4 star match or better everytime out.
c/s they did job the shit out of Regal, if I remember right he didn't even win the ECW Title once. Hell they let Ezekiel Jackson win the title on the last night, they could of put the belt on Regal's waist at least that one time.
TNA is is no position to touch the WWE.They thought that last year when they decided to go head to head on Monday night's and screwed it up first by going directly head to head instead of getting a 1 hour head start as they did on the first Monday night Impact which got a good rating.And the best rating of that show was.....the 8-9 hour that preceded Raw.Between that and their schizophrenic storylines they don't have a chance and that's in spite of Vince losing touch.If nothing else Vince at least knows how to push somebody.TNA can't even do that right.
When I say that they are in a position, I mean that they do have the pieces in place. They don't have to go head to head to compete. They have a stronger tag team division, and they have a nice x-division. If they were to get some real focus, they have the talent to one day be direct competition. Hogan's ego has put TNA in the poor situation it is in. Somebody needs to clean house, and take it back to the way it was before Hogan and his team came.
TNA is worse than WCW last days. No matter how poor we may think WWE is TNA is definitely worse and there's no competition. I mean just look at how they sign their talent. It causes wrestlers to occasionally miss episodes of Impact even when their currently in a storyline. Just ridiculous.
As far as talent goes I think its there in both companies. Neither company lacks talent. They lack writing. And i'm just a viewer so I hate to be THAT GUY who pretends like I know more than what professional writers do (they force you into that position)but I do in this case.
I just can't believe some of the shit these guys get paid to write. And it may not be the writers. It may be just the higher ups doing what they think is best rather than letting the writers just right. But TNA has some ways to go to putting up atleast a decent program. They first off need to know what direction they want to go in because right now the show is just ridiculous. They put every wrestler in a fake ass NWO faction called Fortune or whatever the fuck they call it and only have 3 faces in Pope, Morgan and Anderson. This shit is the most ridiculous wrestling program i've ever witnessed. Its like they're copying everything that was wrong with WCW and putting it into TNA.
Around 2008 I did like TNA, as a whole, more than the WWE (if you're comparing current products at that time). They had things popping in ALL their divisions.
Doesn't even feel like the same company anymoreIt's like a bloated mess of "stuff" that doesn't gell well together at all. For all the missed opportunities and mistakes the WWE has made, even these days, they are (even though some of their choices are troubling) making new stars and generally not straight up stupid like TNA is getting.
The main thing I would change with TNA is a setting a goal. TNA, for the most part, really feels like it's just doing things are they go along without any real long term plans. I would certainly set some clear goals that isn't as puzzling as it appears to the general public.
Also, out with the old...in with the new. Sorry Hulk & company, you have to go. And I know people won't agree with me on this, but I'd also let go of Ric Flair. He has had some great moments on the mic, but on the whole I feel he's more of a distraction than anything else. Certainly there are more ways to push Jay Lethal, for example, further in his career than having Flair involved. The interactions between the two, as amusing as they were, got me more interested in Flair than Jay Lethal (and I'm a Lethal fan). It shouldn't be that way.
Another thing I'd change is I'd get rid of the Knockouts tag title. It really serves no purpose at this point. It sort of did when it was invented (although, I'd argue there wasn't enough of a women's tag division at the time to warrant it during it's initial creation), but it definitely doesn't now.
Also, NO MORE SIGNING WHOEVER GETS RELEASED FROM THE WWE. Yes, people need jobs and whatnot, but TNA isn't doing enough with the talent they have under contract. I'm a big MVP fan, but I don't want TNA to sign him for the sake of TNA. If they really don't want to look like a 2nd rate company, and want to actively compete with the WWE, then they need to stop picking up WWE's leftovers (bare in mind, releases like MVP, Shelton Benjamin, Mickie James, Low-ki etc were BAD DECISIONS on WWE's part, imho). They struggle to push a good deal of the talent they have, why add to the bloatedness.
And finally, I'd sign Heyman and make him an active booker. He has great ideas, for the most part, and could certainly do no worse with the direction of the company than what is being done now. With that said, I would not let him completely run the ball when it comes to booking PPVs. For that, it might be wise to have Dreamer handle PPVs (if that were possible, with Heyman's input). For all of Heyman's great ideas for weekly TV, he has a habit of going a little overboard when it comes time to booking PPVs (check out his last booked PPV, December to Dismember). A filter through someone else wouldn't be a bad idea.
That's just off the top.
Should just shut down for a week or two and come back with new storylines all together
Right now, they don't need to sign anyone else and even have people they need to release and far more they need to use better.
This is my point about not signing WWE released talent. They're having enough trouble pushing the talent they have as it is. No last thing they should be doing is bringing in, for example, MVP just so he can start going over talent that they keep forgetting to push. Remember that whole debacle with Val Venis as soon as he just got signed? Stuff like that is what they need not be doing. I'm not saying never sign any good new talent (from WWE, or elsewhere), but manage the talent you have before you reach out.
Disaster, or opportunity. That all depends on how WWE handles it. Needless to say, I'm not the most optimistic about how they'll handle this.
All that aside, hope Cena recovers ASAP.