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EPDC said:
Nia squashed Bliss for the title at Wrestlemania, carried the belt for a few months and just had a main event style program with arguably the most popular woman combat fighter today.

Not to mention, Naomi ran with the Women's title on Smackdown for a lengthy time last year
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the match wasn't a squash, it was surprisingly competitive which made no sense.
who did nia beat for the title?
who did nia lose the title to?
nia whole story has been about Bliss
how long was nia's title run compared to Bliss? Did Nia defend the title at a PPV? was nia on Raw last night or sought vengeance? on raw it's all about Bliss?

and they gave title to Naomi as a reward for being around for so long. she didn't have a story and they didn't use the title to elevate her? since she lost the title how close has she been to main event picture?
 
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"THE MAN" said:
I like Bliss but let's be honest. She gets by on getting pushed because of her looks. Most of the women on the roster have not been developed at all and they did meaningless shit. Absolution and the Riot Squad were just thrown out there with no explanation as to who they are. Sasha was just to help inflate Charlotte's numbers, they mishandled Bayley, ignored Becky, pushed Lana for no reason and left a lot of people just doing nothing.
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Agree, no argument there. It's her looks and mic work. Remember wrestling is in the business of making money. Just like how many people tuned in and "hatewatched' to see Mayweather suffer a loss, people pay attention to Bliss to see her get her comeuppance.
 
gdatruth said:
the match wasn't a squash, it was surprisingly competitive which made no sense.
who did nia beat for the title?
who did nia lose the title to?
nia whole story has been about Bliss
how long was nia's title run compared to Bliss? Did Nia defend the title at a PPV? was nia on Raw last night or sought vengeance? on raw it's all about Bliss?

and they gave title to Naomi as a reward for being around for so long. she didn't have a story and they didn't use the title to elevate her? since she lost the title how close has she been to main event picture?
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Match was damn near a squash match.

Nia sucks on the mic. She big and that's it.

She's basically like the Andre the Giant of ther women's division.

Bliss is like an evil Hulk Hogan, similar in how Andre's story revolved around Hogan back in the late 80s.

And you're not giving Naomi any credit, she had the title, lost it, got it back and defended it at Wrestlemania in her hometown.

The women's division is stacked and they need secondary titles like the men have ( tag and women's US/IC titles).

Naomi is still wrestling in front of cameras, unlike other women who are all but ghost right now.
 
"THE MAN" said:
I like Bliss but let's be honest. She gets by on getting pushed because of her looks. Most of the women on the roster have not been developed at all and they did meaningless shit. Absolution and the Riot Squad were just thrown out there with no explanation as to who they are. Sasha was just to help inflate Charlotte's numbers, they mishandled Bayley, ignored Becky, pushed Lana for no reason and left a lot of people just doing nothing.
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everything you are saying is spot on. That Bayley just ain't cutting in WWE like it did in NXT. What the hell is Becky Lynch up to ? I know Charlotte will be on the shelf soon because one of her implants busted and Sasha is just to damn injury prone to properly push. Bliss is hot right now so they need her in the spotlight. Nia Jax will soon be back to doing jobs to women half her size
 
EPDC said:
Just saying there are other heels on the Raw roster.

Oh her look definitely helped her, but let's also keep it real, Bayley and Sasha suck on the Mic. They initially got huge pops from the crowd but could not carry that momentum. Listening to Sasha and Bayley on the mic is brutal, whereas Bliss is a natural shit talker.

You can blame the writing fucking up Sasha (and Bayley) but Bliss also has to deal with the shitty writing as well.
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I think Bliss's push has been forced and has gotten proper writing. I honestly don't consider Banks and on the mic. She's just as good or bad as the rest of the roster.
 
Roman needs to turn heel. Put Lashley vs Roman with Lashley winning and Roman just snaps and attack on Lashley. Then the next night on RAW he tells the fans and his so called friends to kiss his ass. If they do it that way he needs to destroy a top babyface after losing to him.
 
gdatruth said:
damn
wtf did Cass do?
thought Vince wanted him to be his new Diesel. Didn't hate him as much everyone else on the internet.
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I read he may have used a banned move on Bryan at MITB. I missed their match, so I'm not sure.
 
There was a segment where Cass got a little to rough with a midget wrestler against Vince's wishes. The midget was cool with it but Vince wasn't and proceeded too bury him over the past few weeks. I didn't see his match against Bryan but I'm sure he was told to work light with him and that might have been the final straw.
 
I didn't see Cass being released this soon. He was a big white cac.


IMO, he didn't have "it". He really had nothing. Wasn't terrible in the ring but damn.....the personality of a door knob. Then his accent made him sound like he was retarded and he acted like it.

Still, shocked he got the boot.
 
dtownsfinest said:
I didn't see Cass being released this soon. He was a big white cac.


IMO, he didn't have "it". He really had nothing. Wasn't terrible in the ring but damn.....the personality of a door knob. Then his accent made him sound like he was retarded and he acted like it.

Still, shocked he got the boot.
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Impact will pick him up and make him into a monster heel probably.
 
dtownsfinest said:
Let me ask you guys.....so what is considered the #2 brand?

I'm not familiar with the NJPW but i'm guessing that or WWE are #1 or #2?

Is TNA #3?Or ROH?
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ROH is number 2 in US. If you wanna go purely off in ring product then NJPW is the best in the world.

Overall product and business
1.WWE
2. NJPW
3.ROH
4. Lucha Underground
5.TNA/Impact
 
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dtownsfinest said:
Is this all business though?TNA has went to #5? Damn....
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Impact has made a lot of bad business decisions. They were a legit #2 competitor to WWE at one point but after they started bringing in Hogan, Brischoff, over the hill talent, and became sketchy with business practices like not paying talent it been all down hill. ROH has a working relationship with NJPW. They don't have a "limited" ring style. Talent are allowed to work as they see fit. Impact has made strides in the passed year. They've established a working relationship with Lucha Underground and they have some nice talent there. Also you have to give Billy Corgan credit for what he's done with NWA since buying it. They didn't even have a YouTube channel a year ago and have picked up a good amount of subs and rumors are they're going to be putting the title on Cody Rhodes at All In.
 
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