THE WRESTLING THREAD: BROCK LESNAR HAS ENTERED THE CHAT!!!
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They've got Asuka out here looking like an idiot and Carmella getting wins over the two best women on Smackdown.
They've got Asuka out here looking like an idiot and Carmella getting wins over the two best women on Smackdown.
Right! WTF are they doing?
You know the WWE only want their female champions to be blonde and have fake tits. If that doesn't apply to you then they will let you hold the title for about a month or 2. Asuka and Nakamura won't win a title unless Vince leaves the company, because both should have won at Wrestlemania.
I knew what time it was when Nakamura and Asuka won their Royal Rumble matchs so,I'm not surprised they've been handled this way. Vince and the gang always have had a convoluted way to getting back to their status quo. Every peek into what should be progression is just that. A blink and you missed it peek into what could have been.
I was gonna say......it was about 2 months longer than I expected.........sadly.
The fascination with Alexis Bliss I just don't get. I understand having her be a female main eventer.....but I don't understand the insistence on having her be champ.
She's small, blonde, and has implants I think. You know white guys like their women to have bodies like preteen boys and that's how Alexis Bliss is. Just look at Charlotte Flair's Fappening pictures. You know on Nia Jax worst day Alexis Bliss would never beat her, Nia is 272lbs and Bliss is probable no more than 130lbs if that.
Funny they showed the tale of the tape with Ronda's 1 PPV match and 0 Raw matches, yet some folks wanted her to win. Starting to think I'm a fan of the wrong company right now. Like my time has passed or something. And yes Braun didn't need it. Hell Raw doesn't need the MITB since the title is never there.
So I guess WWE is about to start a Alexa Bliss/ Rousey feud that will have them fight at Summerslam. Throw in Nia Jax having her rematch which will probably be a squash match...As far as Braun goes him winning MITB don't mean shit cause like you said Lesnar is never on Raw and when he does appear he's just doing a 7-8 minute promo where he says nothing and Paul Heyman does all the talking. Miz or Joe should of won instead.
canceled my subscription
haven't really been enjoying the product of late
- tired of white blondes owning the women's divisions
- tired of sasha banks being a non factor
- I love AJ but Nak needed that win and a run with the title
- i hate the fact they are wasting DB
- i hate fact the Miz hasn't been rewarded for his work and improvement
- i hate the fact that with damn near 15 titles only one blk wrestler as a belt in WWE
- tired of seeing Big E and now Lashley be wasted
- I get more enjoyment reading recaps and listening to podcasts than watching the product
haven't really been enjoying the product of late
- tired of white blondes owning the women's divisions
- tired of sasha banks being a non factor
- I love AJ but Nak needed that win and a run with the title
- i hate the fact they are wasting DB
- i hate fact the Miz hasn't been rewarded for his work and improvement
- i hate the fact that with damn near 15 titles only one blk wrestler as a belt in WWE
- tired of seeing Big E and now Lashley be wasted
- I get more enjoyment reading recaps and listening to podcasts than watching the product
Mmmm
I agree Braun didn't need to win the MITB, because Brock is never on raw. I think Joe or Rusev should have won that match. They really are wasting Big E, Nakamura, Asuka, and Lashley. Nakamura has faced AJ 2 or 3 times now for the title and they won't let him beat AJ. Asuka is by far the best woman on Smackdown and now she can't beat Carmella. I'm tired of Frankenstein, sorry I mean Brock showing up on Raw not saying anthing during his promos and leaves without defending the title. There's no way in hell little Alexa Bliss should be able to beat Nia Jax, that's bullshit writing right there.
I feel like something is just missing. Reminds me of the Underpants Gnome episode for anyone who has seen it.
Step 1 - Use them in NXT as a superstar
Step 2 - ????????
Step 3 Put in title matches on the main roster
They never introduce anyone properly. Hey here is Finn Balor the first Universal Champ. Hey check out this Japanese guy people like. Don't worry casuals, the hardcore fans will catch you up to speed.
right now the hottest acts in NXT are the Velveteen Dream and Bianca Blair. What happens when they get called up? Does Dream become the new Goldust? Does Bianca become another Naomi or Amber Moon who wows with athleticism but does nothing else?
They get a big build up, win a couple matches then go on a losing streak before being off tv for a while.
or fill out a random battle royal, are lumberjacks or holding Brock when he on a rampage
Depends how much evolve Vince is in the product. The sooner Triple H gets more control of the main roster the better. Vince is supposed to be less evolved in the daily operations since he's doing the XFL return.
Seth just lost ic title Smh
Should have let Elias win it last night.
Couldn't agree more. Braun doesn't need the MitB case. They could say he's the new #1 contender right now on Raw and no one would bat an eye or question it. And since Bliss cashed in on the same night, I can only assume that mean Braun is going to hold onto the case for a couple of months. Which might mean Roman getting his ass kicked by Lesnar a few more times this year before they finally put the title on Strowman. I can't imagine them using the case at/or before SS because that would mean that both cases are done before the end of the summer and you know they like to keep those will they/won't they cash in stories running for months.
Miz or Rusev could have used the rub of having the case SO MUCH more than Strowman. Especially Rusev since as has been pointed out in here several times, why put the case on a show that doesn't have a title?!?!?!?
And he could have cashed it in on Rusev Day
Also, is it okay to say that the AJ/Shinsuke program has been shit? I mean their matches are ok, but I know what both men are capable of and the WWE style has neutered their in ring style significantly. Their matches could have been 5 star classics. And having Shinsuke lose again makes his heel turn pointless. Unless they do another match, which I don't think anyone wants to see. Let AJ move on to Joe.
This might not be a popular opinion in here, but I fucks with Bliss. She's in my top 5 people who keep me tuning in right now. She such a good heel. Her cash in last night as the moment of the night for me. Maybe that and Sasha rag dolling herself all over the damn place last night. Sasha bumps like she thinks she injury-proof.
Bliss, next to Stephanie McMahon, is the top female heel talent on the roster.
NO ONE gets heel heat like she does. She is a perfect heel champion. They did a good job getting the belt around her waist again.
None of the women get heel heat the way she does. It's the reason why they brought back Ellsworth on Smackdown. No one cares enough about Carmella to hate her as a heel champ, where as Ellsworth generates that heat for her.
Bliss is the female Miz. She is a perfect heel.
So is Dolph going to show up next week, give up the IC title, and walk out?
Seriously though, I fucks with Ziggler but what in the entire fuck? His time to win titles and be taken seriously has long passed. They could have put it on Elias last night. Or given it to Drew tonight.
Or just let Seth keep his open challenge running since it's the default top title on Raw right now and Seth is a top guy.
Seriously though, I fucks with Ziggler but what in the entire fuck? His time to win titles and be taken seriously has long passed. They could have put it on Elias last night. Or given it to Drew tonight.
Or just let Seth keep his open challenge running since it's the default top title on Raw right now and Seth is a top guy.
Couldn't agree more. Braun doesn't need the MitB case. They could say he's the new #1 contender right now on Raw and no one would bat an eye or question it. And since Bliss cashed in on the same night, I can only assume that mean Braun is going to hold onto the case for a couple of months. Which might mean Roman getting his ass kicked by Lesnar a few more times this year before they finally put the title on Strowman. I can't imagine them using the case at/or before SS because that would mean that both cases are done before the end of the summer and you know they like to keep those will they/won't they cash in stories running for months.
Miz or Rusev could have used the rub of having the case SO MUCH more than Strowman. Especially Rusev since as has been pointed out in here several times, why put the case on a show that doesn't have a title?!?!?!?
And he could have cashed it in on Rusev Day
Also, is it okay to say that the AJ/Shinsuke program has been shit? I mean their matches are ok, but I know what both men are capable of and the WWE style has neutered their in ring style significantly. Their matches could have been 5 star classics. And having Shinsuke lose again makes his heel turn pointless. Unless they do another match, which I don't think anyone wants to see. Let AJ move on to Joe.
This might not be a popular opinion in here, but I fucks with Bliss. She's in my top 5 people who keep me tuning in right now. She such a good heel. Her cash in last night as the moment of the night for me. Maybe that and Sasha rag dolling herself all over the damn place last night. Sasha bumps like she thinks she injury-proof.
She's a great heel. I agree. But they keep giving her title shots. I have no problem with her. She does her job well. But I don't understand why others have to get buried for her push.
While this is true.....the reason she's the only real heel isn't because she's the only good one they have. Its the only one they've developed. And she's going to continue to be the only heel they have with her being champ.
Because others don't get the same reaction she gets.
Bliss as a heel gets a better reaction from the crowd than Bayley, Banks and Jaxx ever got, as faces and/or heels.
Not true, on Raw, there are other heels, such as the Riott squad, Mickey James, and now apparently Nia Jax.
Bliss is the only one who gets the reaction from the crowd that makes money.
Like the Miz, Bliss' in ring skill and ability are lacking, but her Mic skills and ability to generate heat, are why she's on top.
Bayley, Banks and others suffered on the main roster, while Bliss only got better.
Think about it, Bliss never even had a women's title run in NXT, yet others did and look at them flounder while she flourishes.
Gotta give credit where it is due. She put in work.
You think they developed Mickie James Riott Squad and Nia Jax like they have Bliss? Let's keep it 100.....she has a certain "look" they like. That's all it is. In regards to her getting a bigger pop than Banks, Baley and Jaxx.......maybe you can say that about Nia.....but I don't think you can say that about Sasha and Bayley. There was a point where Sasha was one of the biggest stars they had on Raw. They fucked that one up.
Just saying there are other heels on the Raw roster.
Oh her look definitely helped her, but let's also keep it real, Bayley and Sasha suck on the Mic. They initially got huge pops from the crowd but could not carry that momentum. Listening to Sasha and Bayley on the mic is brutal, whereas Bliss is a natural shit talker.
You can blame the writing fucking up Sasha (and Bayley) but Bliss also has to deal with the shitty writing as well.
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I disagree with the Banks comparison. At the beginning of the women's revolution and 3 of the 4 horsewomen were called up Sasha got the biggest reaction.
her reward?
she was kept off TV
won the belt a few times (to artificially bump up Charlotte's title reigns)
never won a match PC
her title reigns lasted a week on average
she was put in meaningless matches
and an endless feud with Bayley that went no where
of course Bliss gets the biggest because she is the only one woman on Raw management has gotten behind
what non white, non blonde has thrived on the women's side? Asuka, Sasha, Becky, Bayley, Nia, Ember Moon, Naomi?
it's all Bliss, Charoltte and Carmella
Mandy Rose got next.
if I were at the performance center and a woman you better dye your blonde if you want a shot at relevance in the wwe and doesn't hurt to be white...sorry Bianca Blair. Bianca is the hottest woman in nxt right now but I fully 3xpwct her to get lapped by lacy Evan's when they get called up
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Nia squashed Bliss for the title at Wrestlemania, carried the belt for a few months and just had a main event style program with arguably the most popular woman combat fighter today.
Not to mention, Naomi ran with the Women's title on Smackdown for a lengthy time last year
I like Bliss but let's be honest. She gets by on getting pushed because of her looks. Most of the women on the roster have not been developed at all and they did meaningless shit. Absolution and the Riot Squad were just thrown out there with no explanation as to who they are. Sasha was just to help inflate Charlotte's numbers, they mishandled Bayley, ignored Becky, pushed Lana for no reason and left a lot of people just doing nothing.