THE WRESTLING THREAD: BROCK LESNAR HAS ENTERED THE CHAT!!!
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Well, let's see if they go from meh to wow.
I highly doubt it.
None of them have an excuse anymore.
Wow Chyna
I love these mofos. I am
PRAYING they get into aew. They have to. That vid was better than most promos cut in the last month.
They're probably already signed and Tony is just waiting to debut them. There were reports that they were seen backstage at the most recent "Winter Is Coming" show.
Thank goodness. They were a staple of roh. They really pushed me into the Indy scene. After undisputed coming out last night I predict a return to the days of Super kicks vs redneck kungfu. We as fans are winning
Exactly. I need to see ...
Briscoes vs FTR
Briscoes vs Santana & Ortiz
Briscoes vs Lucha Brothers
Briscoes vs ReDragon
Briscoes vs Young Bucks
I guess everybody forgot how they used to wear the confederate flag as their gear until 2015, huh?
I never liked those dirty ass CACs. First time I ever saw them they wearing Confederate shit.I guess everybody forgot how they used to wear the confederate flag as their gear until 2015, huh?
Fuck them.
I guess everybody forgot how they used to wear the confederate flag as their gear until 2015, huh?
I always considered the Briscoes the white equivalent of New Jack. They're backwoods redneck heels that do and say outrageous things. The Confederate flag was apart of their whole shtick as it generated them massive heat. No different from what New Jack did back in "Smoky Mountain Wrestling" when he cut promos congratulating OJ on allegedly killing Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman and all the other racial over the top stuff he did as apart of "Da Gangstas". The idea was to piss off white people and get people worked.
Once the Briscoes started to gain more popularity and turned babyface they ditched the Confederate gear. With that said this brings up the question many wrestlers face. When does the gimmick end and real life start? Those lines are often blurred. People say New Jack lived out his gimmick and hardly anybody knew who Jerome Young was. This is why I don't know if the Briscoes are inherently racist or not. To say for sure either way you may be getting worked.
I agree with Swole, hopefully they took her criticisms to heart.
And although she didn't say it, I feel like she meant Brandi doesn't represent us, and I would agree. I thought that "black bitch" line was cringey as fuck.
And although she didn't say it, I feel like she meant Brandi doesn't represent us, and I would agree. I thought that "black bitch" line was cringey as fuck.
They won't. Pro wrestling still tries to appeal to a primary white male audience between 18 - 49. Most won't see the issue or explain it away. I do like her point that in the end, it's a scripted television show. Anyone can be champion.
ETA. I don't get why she left. Couldn't she more of an influence if she was still with the company?
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I swear Tony Kahn is so sensitive to criticism.
awww Tony....
oh well...back to watching once in a while or catching clips....
That exit interview must've been something else....
The Charleston massacre and Sinclair corporation forced the Briscoes to ditch their gear. No sympathy for them.
ppl of color or brown ppl =/= black representation on screen or in management
black talent is very rarely featured on their on main show and if it is it's a young black wrestler doing the favors
either Tony is really dumb when it comes to these issues or he playing dumb
there have been many dynamintes where a black person didnt make one appearance
I read the article and some of Swole's criticism is valid and some of it isn't.
1. She was frustrated that the women weren't getting enough time on Dynamite: The lack of time the women get has more to do with the executives at TNT than it does Tony Khan. They didn't want more than one women's match on Dynamite. That limits what you can do from a booking standpoint. If you want to be apart of that one women's match you have to prove your worth. A lot of times the matches that involved Swole weren't good because she isn't a good worker. Yes, it's frustrating that the women don't get more time but you also have to take some personal responsibility.
2. She doesn't like that AEW doesn't have writers and that you have to come up with stuff on your own. She feels not everyone is comfortable with coming up with their own stories/promos and if you don't have that ability then you don't get used: My response to that is that's what creative freedom is. Nobody should have to spoon feed you stories. I'm not even a wrestler and I could pitch to Tony Khan five different stories that I can do with various opponents. You're in the wrestling business. You're not there just to wrestle. You have to tell compelling stories as well because that's how you sell a match and make money. That's not just the booker's responsibility that's your responsibility as a wrestler.
3. She claims a lack of diversity in AEW as in there's nobody black at the top: Why that may be technically true who outside of Jay Lethal would be qualified to be a world champion that's black in AEW. Scorpio sky? Powerhouse Hobbs? Lio Rush? Dante Martin? As far as the women you got Jade, Red Velvet, and Brandi. Are any of those women honestly world champion material right now? I get that you don't have a lot of black wrestlers but if you want to get to the top it has to be earned. Nobody should give you shit just because you're black.
4. Tony Khan's response could've been worded better but he's not wrong.
1. She was frustrated that the women weren't getting enough time on Dynamite: The lack of time the women get has more to do with the executives at TNT than it does Tony Khan. They didn't want more than one women's match on Dynamite. That limits what you can do from a booking standpoint. If you want to be apart of that one women's match you have to prove your worth. A lot of times the matches that involved Swole weren't good because she isn't a good worker. Yes, it's frustrating that the women don't get more time but you also have to take some personal responsibility.
2. She doesn't like that AEW doesn't have writers and that you have to come up with stuff on your own. She feels not everyone is comfortable with coming up with their own stories/promos and if you don't have that ability then you don't get used: My response to that is that's what creative freedom is. Nobody should have to spoon feed you stories. I'm not even a wrestler and I could pitch to Tony Khan five different stories that I can do with various opponents. You're in the wrestling business. You're not there just to wrestle. You have to tell compelling stories as well because that's how you sell a match and make money. That's not just the booker's responsibility that's your responsibility as a wrestler.
3. She claims a lack of diversity in AEW as in there's nobody black at the top: Why that may be technically true who outside of Jay Lethal would be qualified to be a world champion that's black in AEW. Scorpio sky? Powerhouse Hobbs? Lio Rush? Dante Martin? As far as the women you got Jade, Red Velvet, and Brandi. Are any of those women honestly world champion material right now? I get that you don't have a lot of black wrestlers but if you want to get to the top it has to be earned. Nobody should give you shit just because you're black.
4. Tony Khan's response could've been worded better but he's not wrong.
Tony might have just fucked up big time. Should have kept his mouth shut.
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The Swole/Baker feud was horrible. It didn't take the women's division to new heights. What is this guy talking about?
Meh, as I said previously he could've worded it better but he's not wrong.
His response could have been worded better and now he has to play defense when he shouldn’t have to.
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He probably took what Swole had the say personal and responded out of emotion. If there's one thing I've learned over the years is never respond out of emotion. Always have a logical measured response to everything.
Swole is right and very fucking wrong. It sounds like AEW gives you the freedom to write and come up with your own storyline and promos. That's all you can ask for!!! That's y so many people have left or wanted to leave WWE. A chance. Vince ain't listening to shit. Swole as a black female could've met up with the others and wrote a hell of a storyline for them but she wants to be told what to do. Imagine getting a job you've always wanted and they tell you write your own path. How do you think this should go for you? She kinda dropped the ball here.
Yes, it's scripted television but you still have to earn your spot. Do you honestly believe Big Swole was world championship material? The problem I have with this is I'm hearing all her criticisms of what needs to be fixed in AEW but I'm not hearing any personal responsibility taken on her part as to why she's a lackluster worker.
He ALWAYS responds out of emotion. He's a thin-skinned, rich boy who can't take criticism.
Exactly. If I was a wrestler I would have 10 stories already written in a notebook on standby to pitch to whoever was the booker in that promotion. All you got to do is use your imagination.
I think what she was getting at was, because it's scripted you can build up anyone. If you want to. There's no excuse to wait 50 years to build up a black talent to get that spot.
Don't get yourself fired bruh. Talk to Tony personally. Don't handle that shit on Twitter.
You can build up anyone but you need the talent to be built up. If you suck at cutting promos and you don't have any ring ability then you're not going to get built up. Doesn't matter if you black, white, brown, green, yellow or whatever. Either she's naive or thinks too highly of herself.