(the Wire)who Was The Man Avon,stringer Or Marlo
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He walked away scott-free but with someone who thinks like him and has his ego,when he confronted those young boys at the very end and they didn't bow like he thought they should.To me that one situation spoke values and on the streets he was NO MORE(dead).
Anyone who thinks Marlo "got away" didnt watch the show closely enough. It wasnt in Marlo to get hustled and bamboozled by Levy and the Baltimore rich white boys like String did. He couldn't stand it. He ran out of his cocktail meetings and kicked some hoppers ass unarmed just to feel like himself.
Now one patroller comes by, locks Marlo up and he's doing life for all those murders, which will forever hang over his head. And something tells me he'd rather be in Jessup with Avon and Chris and Wee Bay and them, than getting the runaround from Krycheck and Levy and them. Marlo was warned--another charge, we bring the cases off the shelf and charge you.
Believe me, according to the internal logic of the show, that outcome is / would have been inevitable.
That's if Mike didn't blast his fuckin brains out all over Pennsylvania Ave at the first opportunity.
Now one patroller comes by, locks Marlo up and he's doing life for all those murders, which will forever hang over his head. And something tells me he'd rather be in Jessup with Avon and Chris and Wee Bay and them, than getting the runaround from Krycheck and Levy and them. Marlo was warned--another charge, we bring the cases off the shelf and charge you.
Believe me, according to the internal logic of the show, that outcome is / would have been inevitable.
That's if Mike didn't blast his fuckin brains out all over Pennsylvania Ave at the first opportunity.
pretty much
I don't think the Wire was about the man... show's trying to show us that these so called 'the man' were really source of destruction of Baltimore.
I fucked w/ Stringer. I could relate to his vision most. Marlo was a combination of Stringer and Avon. Mike had potential to be a combination of all 3.
On another note, Slim Charles (aka Big G) was the most official soldier in the game.
On another note, Slim Charles (aka Big G) was the most official soldier in the game.
yeah he didnt even saw that coming prop joe is canceled
You didn't see Marlo with no money Bags,when he left that scum-bag of a lawyer he was dolo,with a suit on his back.
We can assume Marlo walked away with money and everything he had before but again WE ARE ASSUMING.
This the way I see the wire ending. Remember when slim killed cheese and the old dude said what the fuck you do that for now we short on the money. I think avon fronted the rest of the money. Becuz slim won't cut out for that ceo type shit. Bodie was the man remember in season 1 whe D was teaching him about chess how avon was king string was the queen. and de said pawns is always the first to go and he said unless they some smart ass pawns out of all the original barksdale people who didnt get locked up he survived till season 4. All good black shows come to end b4 they can become classics but other shows run on forever for example friends e.r. they ride those too wheels fall off. I'm hoping that genious at hbo will see the need for the wire and bring it on in another city like some csi type shit the wire nyc the wire atl.
Marlo hands down. he is ruthless, calculating, intelligent and doesn't care. he is like a "Silent Assassin." he doesn't have to get loud or brag about what he can do and all of his "soldiers" fear and respect him. He did little to no jail time and I don't even think anyone took a shot at him. I was hoping Omar and Marlo was going to go at it man to man in the last episode but they messed up and killed Omar. That fight I would want to see!!! all in all Marlo was the man.
BTW is that Marlo in the Max Payne trailer talking? :30
BTW is that Marlo in the Max Payne trailer talking? :30
agreed.
mr. barksdale, and it's not even close.
without avon randolph barksdale, there would've been no infrastructure. all that on the show? that was all avon's shit.
exactly.
stringer was a pie-in-the-sky bitch who thought he could universally apply business models to the drug trade.
stringer may have been ambitious in his thinking, attempting to synthesize what he learned in night school, but he was STUPID to think that those lessons smoothly and completely transfer over to illegal operations which REQUIRE money laundering in order to be successful.
dumb ass got got, and deserved it for trying to come out of pocket.
He didn't have the rep or respect he thought he deserved but he walked. He was out the game and had something to show for it.
I don't think being shot by those hoods warrants as another charge. Marlo was the real winner imo. He was at the top of the game and left the game paid. All he had to worry about was Slim Charles possibly coming at him and Mike like you said. Marlo was wide open to get got after that. I think that would have been the outcome had the show continued.
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C'mon now. Dude ain't gonna just have the money on him wherever he goes we are to assume he got a stash house somewhere. We don't have to see the money to know he's got it. Marlo was free to go all he was looking for was a buyer for his connect he was selling for a 10mil. If he didn't find that he was leaving with the money he had.
Thats what I was gonna say. Slim Charles out lasted all three of them niggas and In the end...The greeks are In biz with him. Them low pro niggas...They always come out on top.
Remember when he yapped cheese In the side of his dome...He shut that nigga the fuck up.
If I gotta choose between the three, I gotta say Avon. He was the reason for "the wire" In the first place. Marlo aint shit without Chris and Snoop...O yeah and Micheal, But he does go hard.... Stringer wasnt no gangsta BTW..
He gave up them towers to the competition... He was scared of beef...Nigga wasnt gonna do shit. Like when he got caught up by omar and the muslim...HE DIDNT EVEN HAVE NO STRAP !!! Fuck the muscle outside, Wheres your heat @ gangsta ???He was terrified of jail, But wanna live the life. He never even got booked.....And still died for that shit.
And he snitched on his partna..
Avon woulda took prop joes good shit and killed everybody instead of giving up his traps to that fat muthafucka.
I Fucks with Doughnut too....The lil nigga that steal a different whip everyday.
For the record Marlo showed he was down to put in work when he blasted that chick Avon used to set him up--that was DAMN ruthless.
Not to mention his little target practice in the woods, he was the illest shot out of all them dudes.
Remember what Kima called Marlo? "The spawn of the devil"
Bruh, Marlo could not do ANY crime or Ronnie was gonna bring the murder cases down off the shelf as soon as the election was over. He knew that. He ran up on some hoppers and started a fight anyway, that tells you right there he was addicted to the game and could not leave it, so no he didnt leave the game on top. Even a simple BATTERY charge puts Marlo in jail for 20-plus. Anyone who thinks Marlo turns into String, does no more crime and sits on his paper and business deals just doesnt understand the Wire as well as they should, period.
I agree with you that Marlo eventually gets murked by Mike.
Not to mention his little target practice in the woods, he was the illest shot out of all them dudes.
Remember what Kima called Marlo? "The spawn of the devil"
Bruh, Marlo could not do ANY crime or Ronnie was gonna bring the murder cases down off the shelf as soon as the election was over. He knew that. He ran up on some hoppers and started a fight anyway, that tells you right there he was addicted to the game and could not leave it, so no he didnt leave the game on top. Even a simple BATTERY charge puts Marlo in jail for 20-plus. Anyone who thinks Marlo turns into String, does no more crime and sits on his paper and business deals just doesnt understand the Wire as well as they should, period.
I agree with you that Marlo eventually gets murked by Mike.
i couldn't disagree more.
IMO, marlo stanfield was a distant second to avon barksdale, but light years ahead of stooge stringer bell.
why?
because avon was the entrepreneur who BUILT shit. it was avon that established the supply chain, avon that established the distribution network (the corners) of the westside. avon barksdale built that up from nothing.
what did marlo do?
he made a timely move and encroached upon the barskdale operation when it was being run by a pussy chump. stringer bell offered an olive branch, and marlo hit him over the head with it.
marlo didn't (and couldn't) make shit. he was just a thug who took advantage of others' weakness.
on the money.
that perfectly illustrated how marlo was low-level at heart.
he couldn't rein in his own addiction to the game, and was nothing more than a slave to it. he must've never heard "play the game, don't let the game play you."
Marlo will likely fuck up all that money somehow. He can't stay away from that shit. He'll end up in jail, he's just too much of a street criminal. YET, his ass was hidin' from THE MAN.
Oh, sure, he got pissed when THE MAN was gone, talking 'bout protectin' his name. up til then, he was hidin' like a bitch.
Of the crew mentioned, they are all close, but I gotta go with Avon over String, because String started making mistakes. String had the best long-term possibilities, because unlike Marlo, he woulda had no problem leaving that shit behind. He was cold as fuck, but didn't have a killer instinct, he was actually TOO practical.
Avon was vicious enough to survive, smart enough to succeed, and grounded enough to not make himself a bigger target than he needed to be.
But with all this talk about THE MAN, as in gangsta, and y'all even mention Mike, you are forgettin' the real deal. Yeah, I know why you're leavin' him out, two reasons. But wasn't nobody as feared on that show as OMAR LITTLE. NOBODY.
But fuck alla dat... Lester Freamon was the man.
Oh, sure, he got pissed when THE MAN was gone, talking 'bout protectin' his name. up til then, he was hidin' like a bitch.
Of the crew mentioned, they are all close, but I gotta go with Avon over String, because String started making mistakes. String had the best long-term possibilities, because unlike Marlo, he woulda had no problem leaving that shit behind. He was cold as fuck, but didn't have a killer instinct, he was actually TOO practical.
Avon was vicious enough to survive, smart enough to succeed, and grounded enough to not make himself a bigger target than he needed to be.
But with all this talk about THE MAN, as in gangsta, and y'all even mention Mike, you are forgettin' the real deal. Yeah, I know why you're leavin' him out, two reasons. But wasn't nobody as feared on that show as OMAR LITTLE. NOBODY.
But fuck alla dat... Lester Freamon was the man.
See but we'll never know that. The show ended there. We can only guess what his outcome would have been had the show continued. I never said he'd be a Stringer Bell but the show ended with him walking. That's all I needed to know, after all the shit he did he walked. He was given a second chance. Avon and Stringer didn't get that so to me Marlo gets the one up.
No such thing as the man, they were all different versions of a dealer.
At the end of the day, if I had to pick one I guess it would be Prop Joe. And thats only because I happen to share his much of his philosophy.
At the end of the day, if I had to pick one I guess it would be Prop Joe. And thats only because I happen to share his much of his philosophy.
Man, Marlo been at that game a while, but not as long as Avon. He was advised to get out because he was fucked... if he stays out (which he won't) it would be luck that separated him from the game.
Avon had to do that for twice as long as Marlo before he ever saw the inside of a jail cell.
True but more than anything they showed the old style of hustling transforming into the new way of doing things.The counsel,Barksdale's,Marlo and the Micheals,all equal the four different generations of hustlers,murderers,theives and crooks.And most importantly they showed you how they all handled things differently,how the conducted themselves and what was most important to them.
Interesting... Please explain the generational gaps there. Who was the old and who was the new?
What show were you watching? String never got through to Marlo.
I'd say Prop Joe. He had the greatest run, imo. sure he failed in the end, but the all did.
I fucks with Avon on this one. Because even tho he was stuck on that street shit he was good, but him and String got on some ol' different opinion type shit.
Remember, he was about to murk Marlo and them dudes at the rim shop, but Stringer ratted on Avon and fucked the flow up. String was always on some other shit if y'all really think about it.
And If this shit was real life. As cool as he operated, a nigga like Marlo would've been done by the middle of season three for certain, niggas like him don't last long.
Remember, he was about to murk Marlo and them dudes at the rim shop, but Stringer ratted on Avon and fucked the flow up. String was always on some other shit if y'all really think about it.
And If this shit was real life. As cool as he operated, a nigga like Marlo would've been done by the middle of season three for certain, niggas like him don't last long.
Neither, Clay Davis the State Senator was the man.
And The Greeks stayed on top
But my personal favorite was Stringer. He had just didn't see everything through. But I liked his idea. Business, no blood. That's how you stay on top.
And The Greeks stayed on top
But my personal favorite was Stringer. He had just didn't see everything through. But I liked his idea. Business, no blood. That's how you stay on top.
when its all said and done...this show is gonna be worst than scarface for getting niggas to throw they life away on this bullshit...I bet then niggas in BMF watched this shit faithfully...
i know them niggas was around along time...im talking about the mentality
i know them niggas was around along time...im talking about the mentality
