The truth about Obama's birth certificate

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Hawaii considering law
to ignore Obama 'birthers'</font size></center>


The Associated Press
By MARK NIESSE
March 17, 2010


HONOLULU — Birthers beware: Hawaii may start ignoring your repeated requests for proof that President Barack Obama was born here.

As the state continues to receive e-mails seeking Obama's birth certificate, the state House Judiciary Committee heard a bill Tuesday permitting government officials to ignore people who won't give up.

"Sometimes we may be dealing with a cohort of people who believe lack of evidence is evidence of a conspiracy," said Lorrin Kim, chief of the Hawaii Department of Health's Office of Planning, Policy and Program Development.

So-called "birthers" claim Obama is ineligible to be president because, they argue, he was actually born outside the United States, and therefore doesn't meet a constitutional requirement for being president.

Hawaii Health Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino issued statements last year and in October 2008 saying that she's seen vital records that prove Obama is a natural-born American citizen.

But the state still gets between 10 and 20 e-mails seeking verification of Obama's birth each week, most of them from outside Hawaii, Kim said Tuesday.

A few of these requesters continue to pepper the Health Department with the same letters seeking the same information, even after they're told state law bars release of a certified birth certificate to anyone who does not have a tangible interest. Responding wastes time and money, Kim said.

Both Fukino and the state registrar of vital statistics have verified that the Health Department holds Obama's original birth certificate.

The issue coincides with Sunshine Week, when news organizations promote open government and freedom of information.

"Do we really want to be known internationally as the Legislature that blocked any inquiries into where President Obama was born?" asked Rep. Cynthia Thielen, R-Kaneohe-Kailua. "When people want to get more information, the way to fuel that fire is to say, 'We're now going to draw down a veil of secrecy.'"

Nobody at the hearing questioned the fact that the president was born in Hawaii.

Attorney Peter Fritz asked why the state would pass a law punishing repetitive requests for open records. Instead, the state could simply say it would only answer each person's question once.

If the measure passed, the state Office of Information Practices could declare an individual a "vexatious requester" and restrict rights to government records for two years.

The committee will schedule a vote on the measure, said Chairman Jon Riki Karamatsu, D-Waipahu-Waikele.

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The measure is SB2937.

http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/hawaii-considering-law-to-376623.html?imw=Y

 

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Re: $20,000.00 fine for being a bitch of an asshole

Birther leader Orly Taitz has been fined for "wasting the judicial resources" of the Middle District of Georgia with her "frivolous and sanctionable conduct."

Taitz filed a lawsuit demanding that President Obama prove his citizenship before deploying an Army captain to Iraq and Afghanistan. However, the soldier herself has disavowed her lawyer and threatened to file a bar complaint against Taitz.

Judge Clay Land wrote that Taitz's behavior in the case "borders on delusional" and "demonstrates bad faith."

Regrettably, the conduct of counsel Orly Taitz has crossed these lines, and Ms. Taitz must be sanctioned for her misconduct. After a full review of the sanctionable conduct, counsel's conduct leading up to that conduct, and counsel's response to the Court's show cause order, the Court finds that a monetary penalty of $20,000.00 shall be imposed upon counsel Orly Taitz as punishment for her misconduct, as a deterrent to prevent future misconduct, and to protect the integrity of the Court. Payment shall be made to the United States, through the Middle District of Georgia Clerk's Office, within thirty days of today's Order. If counsel fails to pay the sanction due, the U.S. Attorney will be authorized to commence collection proceedings.

In an interview with Talking Points Memo, Taitz said she had no intention of paying the fine. "Are you kidding? Of course not," she said. "This is a form of intimidation."

This bitch still doesn't get it.

The full document:


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'Birther' movement attorney Orly Taitz
keeps fighting legal battle, thinks
Obama can't be the president</font size></center>



Ledger Enquirer
By ALAN RIQUELMY
ariquelmy@ledger-enquirer.com
Friday, Jul. 30, 2010


Orly Taitz, the so-called “birther” attorney who’s led charges across the country against President Barack Obama’s legitimacy to hold office, continues to defy a federal court order to pay $20,000 in sanctions and to challenge the judicial system.

The California attorney/dentist/real estate agent has risen to the national stage with her arguments that Obama can’t be the president because he wasn’t born in America.

Two of her cases in Columbus challenging Obama’s legitimacy to hold office were tossed out by U.S. District Court Judge Clay Land. Then her second client, Capt. Connie Rhodes, wrote a letter to the court in September 2009 claiming that Taitz exceeded her authority as an attorney and that she no longer wanted the California lawyer to represent her.

Taitz kept pushing the issue of Obama’s legitimacy with Land, who ultimately gave her a warning and then a time limit to explain why he shouldn’t levy a hefty fine against her. In October 2009, when Taitz did reply, though not to the judge’s specific command of why he shouldn’t sanction her, Land then issued $20,000 in sanctions against her.

Taitz appealed to the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals in Atlanta, and the appeals court upheld Land’s sanctions in May.

She then forwarded U.S. Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas a brief for stay, in which she asked that the sanctions be reversed.

According to the Supreme Court’s website, that application was received July 8 and denied by Thomas on July 15.

On July 20, Taitz posted a motion requesting that she be allowed to verify that it is, in fact, Thomas’ signature on the denial of her application. She’s also sent her request for stay to Justice Samuel Alito, though she said a clerk told her it had been returned because of a small technical issue.

“So, they’re playing a new game,” Taitz said Wednesday. “This cannot happen in the Supreme Court of the United States.”


<font size="4">Proper application</font size>

Columbus attorney William Mason, who taught law at Columbus State University, said Taitz raises issues that someone would bring up in a writ of certiorari. To Mason, “writ of certiorari” is the key component. Taitz’s filing is an application for stay.

“It’s not in the proper form or the proper time,” Mason said. “A writ of certiorari is a very formal document. You actually have to send it to a printer and send it in booklet form.”

In addition, the document would state on its cover, “Writ of certiorari.” Inside, it would state “Issues presented,” and it would explain in two or three pages how the appeals court erred, he said.

The Supreme Court gets around 8,000 such writs each year, and they examine about 80 a year, Mason added.

A request for stay is done under extraordinary circumstances once a case has been appealed properly by filing a writ of certiorari, which hasn’t happened. If it had, the issue should have been whether the court could sanction her $20,000. Instead, Mason said, Taitz appears to challenge the underlying argument that Obama can’t legitimately be president.

“There’s no logical way to address what she’s doing,” he said. “I have written certs to the U.S. Supreme Court. This is not how you do it.”


<font size="4">Taitz’s argument</font size>

Taitz said Wednesday that she has until the end of August to file a writ of certiorari. She’s considering it, though she added that she doesn’t want to discuss the issue at this point.

Taitz disagreed with Mason’s argument that a writ should have been filed first, saying that one doesn’t exclude the other.

“This is too important for the nation as a whole,” she said.

Taitz questions the timing of Thomas’ denial of her request for stay. She said someone made the entry on the high court’s website on a Saturday when the court was closed. Since then, Taitz has been told by a court clerk that no order signed by Thomas exists, she said.

“We don’t know who denied it,” she said. “Clearly, he did not sign this order. All kinds of things are happening.”

The Supreme Court’s website states that an application for stay was submitted to Thomas, who then denied it.

Taitz said she’s filed a motion with Chief Justice John Roberts asking that Thomas’ signature be verified. She’s also filed a complaint with the U.S. Department of Justice, she said.

In addition, Taitz has sent her request for stay to Alito, saying that someone can keep on sending such requests to each of the justices.

So when, if ever, would Taitz be forced to pay the sanctions?

Taitz said she’s received a letter from a Georgia U.S. attorney asking if she would pay the money.

She replied that she’s chosen to exercise her rights to appeal to the Supreme Court.

“I guess they’re waiting to see what happens,” she said.


http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/2010/07/30/1211939/birther-movement-taitz-keeps-fighting.html

 

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Iowa GOP Looking To Replace 13th Amendment To Remove Obama’s Citizenship

The comedy contiues...

source: Think Progress

Iowa GOP Supports Amendment To Strip Obama’s Citizenship Because He Won The Nobel Peace Prize

At its state convention in Des Moines last month, the Iowa GOP adopted a new party platform that includes the repeal of mandatory minimum wage laws, the elimination of the U.S. Department of Education, and even clarification on the definition of manure. Out of the “387 enumerated planks and principles,” Newsweek’s Jerry Adler found the most “startling” section of the platform calls for “the reintroduction and ratification of the original 13th Amendment.”

Adopted in December 1865, the current 13th Amendment of the Constitution prohibits “slavery” and “involuntary servitude” in the United States or any place under its jurisdiction. The Iowa GOP is not trying to overturn this amendment to reinstate slavery. Instead, it wants to reintroduce the “original 13th Amendment” first offered by senator Phillip Reed of Maryland in 1810. The amendment states that “if any citizen of the United States shall accept, claim, receive or retain any title of nobility or honor” from a “foreign power, such person shall cease to be a citizen” and “shall be incapable of holding any office of trust.” In receiving only 12 out of the 13 votes needed for ratification, the amendment was never adopted.

Traditional supporters of the idea are known as “Thirteenthers,” who seek to prevent those with the title of “esquire,” such as lawyers and bankers, from participating in government. But according to its spokeswoman, Danielle Plogmann, the Iowa GOP supports it as an attack on President Obama’s Nobel Prize win:

There are, of course, other implications of Thirteenthism, such as ensuring that the United States never again suffers the humiliation of having a president win the Nobel Peace Prize. That was just what the Iowa Republicans had in mind, according to Plogmann, who wrote in an e-mail that the plank “was meant to make a statement about the delegates’ opinion about Mr. Obama receiving the prize.” (Presumably they didn’t mind if, in the process, they were also making a statement about any American scientist or writer unlucky enough to win a Nobel.) Unfortunately for them, the Department of Justice looked into whether Obama needed Congressional approval to accept the Nobel under the existing emoluments clause, and based on the meaning of “foreign state” (which would not cover the Nobel Prize Committee) concluded that he did not.

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Iowa is currently “the only state where this type of plank has been introduced into the GOP platform.” While chances are indeed remote that such a measure would pass, should the Iowa GOP and “Thirteenthers” successfully push their belief, “every act of federal government since 1819,” including the abolition of slavery, “would be delegitimized.” (HT: Iowa Independent)

 

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Re: Iowa GOP Looking To Replace 13th Amendment To Remove Obama’s Citizenship

If these folks gave half as much effort to working on sustainable, renewable energy sources we wouldn't be dependent on foreign oil. Instead, their energies are channeled into political fucking games.

 

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Re: Iowa GOP Looking To Replace 13th Amendment To Remove Obama’s Citizenship

If these folks gave half as much effort to working on sustainable, renewable energy sources we wouldn't be dependent on foreign oil. Instead, their energies are channeled into political fucking games.

If they could find a way make corn a renewable energy source, they would actually be contributing. Ethanol doesn't really count since it's so reliant on government subsidies.



These dudes, man

 

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What is she gaining from this? Who's financing this?

 

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Democratic Whip Says GOP Will Investigate Obama If They Take Congress

source: The Hill

Dem Whip: GOP majority will issue birther subpoenas

House Majority Whip James Clyburn (D-S.C.) warned Republicans will investigate President Obama's birthplace if they take over Congress.

Clyburn, the third-ranking Democrat in the House, said Republicans will grind the government to a halt by issuing subpoenas against the Obama administration over a number of issues if they take power. He predicted that "gridlock" in Congress would "define" Obama's first term if Republicans win the House, but expressed confidence his party would prevail.

Clyburn noted that Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.), the ranking Republican on the House Oversight panel, has said will will issue "subpoenas everywhere" if Republicans win the majority.

"The White House will be full-time responding to subpoenas about where the president may or may not have been born, whether his mother and father were ever married, and whether his wife's family is from Georgetown or Sampit," Clyburn said in an interview published Monday on TheGrio.com, an African-American news website. "That will define the next two years of the president's administration.

Issa has promised to ramp up his probes into the Obama administration, but his spokesman said he would not pursue the "birther" controversy and that the congressman has not spoken about the issue.

"The Democratic Caucus doesn’t take Jim Clyburn seriously – Americans shouldn’t take his ridiculous claims seriously either," said Issa spokesman Kurt Bardella in an e-mail. Bardella noted that Issa has already released his "blueprint for oversight" that focuses on investigating the expansion of government.

Clyburn spokeswoman Kristie Greco called Bardella's point a "nervous overreaction."

"Perhaps he [Bardella] would like us to forget that the former Chairman of Government Oversight, Rep. Burton [R-Ind.], is a co-sponsor of the birther bill and Reps. McHenry [R-N.C.] and Fortenberry [R-Neb.] have raised question about the origin of the President’s birth. Does Darrell Issa take his fellow committee members seriously?” Greco wrote in an e-mail.

Some Republican congressional candidates and lawmakers have raised questions about Obama's country of birth and citizenship since he took office. Activists who have expressed skepticism of Obama's American citizenship have been labeled "birthers."

The so-called birther bill, or H.R. 1503, is a measure that would require proof of citizenship from presidential candidates. It was introduced by Rep. Bill Posey (R-Fla.) in March 2009.

Obama was born in Hawaii, and the White House released a digitally scanned image of his birth certificate. But that has failed to silence arguments that he was not born in the U.S.

In the minority, Issa has gone after the administration on several issues including their alleged intervention in the Pennsylvania and Colorado Democratic Senate primaries.

But Clyburn suggested that those investigations will turn from political issues into Obama's personal life if the GOP takes over the House.

Clyburn blamed conservative media for the phenomenon and said others could rebut those views if the Fairness Doctrine, a government policy abolished in the 1980s that required broadcasters to give both sides equal time on political programs, was still in place.


"Twenty-five years ago, we didn't have Rush Limbaugh spewing hate all day, every day, and others on the radio, and we didn't have a TV station dedicated to misrepresenting the facts and people making $20 million to go out and say what they know not to be true," he said. "This has created an atmosphere of toxicity."

 

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California court throws out lawsuit
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The Plaintiffs were Alan Keyes, a former member of President Ronald
Reagan's administration from Maryland, and Wiley S. Drake Sr.,
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2000 candidate for the Republican presidential nomina-
tion; 2006 unsuccessful Senate candidate against Barack
Obama; and 2008 unsuccessful presential candidate

Wiley Drake of First Southern
Baptist Church in Buena Park
not only declared last week
that the murder of Kansas
abortion Dr. George Tiller had
been the answer to his
"imprecatory" prayers, but that
the so-called Man of God later
announced he'd made a similar
prayer of death for President
Barack Obama.

Markham Rob-
inson - with
Christian Poli-
tical Theory

By Denny Walsh
October 26, 2010




A state appellate court in Sacramento on Monday threw out a lawsuit claiming President Barack Obama is not eligible to occupy the White House because he is not a natural-born citizen of the United States.

The court did not deal with the citizenship issue, instead ruling that the California secretary of state, who oversees elections, and the state's Electoral College members are not legally responsible to certify presidential candidates as qualified for the office.

Under the terms of the U.S. Constitution's 12th Amendment, that responsibility rests solely with Congress, a unanimous three-justice panel of the 3rd District Court of Appeal declared.

"The members of the Senate and the House of Representatives are well qualified to adjudicate any objections to ballots for allegedly unqualified candidates," the justices said.

In a lawsuit filed in Sacramento Superior Court shortly after the 2008 general election, the three plaintiffs, who are members of the so-called "birthers" movement, claimed there is persuasive evidence Obama was born in what is now Kenya, which was then (1961) the British East African Protectorate of Zanzibar. He would have automatically been a British citizen, based on his father's citizenship, they claimed.

Obama says he was born in Hawaii, and available evidence supports him.

The plaintiffs in the Sacramento suit are Alan Keyes, a former member of President Ronald Reagan's administration from Maryland, and Wiley S. Drake Sr., a Southern Baptist minister from Buena Park.

They were the 2008 American Independent Party candidates for president and vice president, respectively. They were joined in the suit by Markham Robinson, a Vacaville software firm owner who unsuccessfully sought the AIP's nomination for governor in the June primary.

Keyes' campaign for the Republican presidential nomination faltered badly in 2007, and early the next year he bolted the party and declared his candidacy for the Constitution Party's nomination. He lost that in the primary and formed a third party, America's Independent Party, for his presidential candidacy.

His fledgling group gained the affiliation of a faction of California's American Independent Party. The Keyes/Drake ticket received 47,694 votes nationally to finish seventh. About 86 percent (40,673) of the votes were cast in California.

The trio originally sought a court order blocking Secretary of State Debra Bowen from certifying the state's ballots to the Electoral College.

That petition was still pending when the Electoral College voted Dec. 15, 2008. They amended the petition, seeking an order that the secretary of state and California electoral members must assure that candidates are qualified in future presidential elections.

Superior Court Judge Michael P. Kenny rejected the petition and the plaintiffs appealed.

Monday's 19-page published opinion was authored by retired Presiding Justice Arthur G. Scotland, assigned to the case by state Chief Justice Ronald M. George. Third District Associate Justices Rick Sims and Ronald B. Robie joined Scotland in the opinion.


© Copyright The Sacramento Bee. All rights reserved.



http://www.sacbee.com/2010/10/26/3131570/california-court-throws-out-lawsuit.html

 

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Birtherism: Where it all began</font size></center>

p o l i t i c o
By BEN SMITH
& BYRON TAU
April 22, 2011


Just when it appeared that public interest was fading, celebrity developer Donald Trump has revived the theory that President Barack Obama was born overseas and helped expose the depth to which the notion has taken root—a New York Times poll Thursday found that a plurality of Republicans believe it.

If you haven’t been trolling the fever swamps of online conspiracy sites or opening those emails from Uncle Larry, you may well wonder: Where did this idea come from? Who started it? And is there a grain of truth there?


The answer lies in Democratic, not Republican politics, and in the bitter, exhausting spring of 2008. At the time, the Democratic presidential primary was slipping away from Hillary Clinton and some of her most passionate supporters grasped for something, anything that would deal a final reversal to Barack Obama. (See: Bachmann: Birther issue settled)

The theory’s proponents are a mix of hucksters and earnest conspiracy theorists, including prominently a lawyer who previously devoted himself to ‘proving’ that the Sept. 11 attacks were an inside job. Its believers are primarily people predisposed to dislike Obama. That willingness to believe the worst about officials of the opposite party is a common feature of presidential rumor-mongering: In 2006, an Ohio State University/Scripps Howard poll found that slightly more than half of Democrats said they suspected the Bush Administration of complicity in the Sept. 11 attacks.

While there is no grain of truth to either fantasy, there’s something else when it comes to Obama: A visceral reaction against him, a deep sense that the first black president, with liberal views and a Muslim name, must be—in some concrete, provable way—foreign. (See: Mitt: Obama born here. Period.)


A brief history of birtherism

Birtherism is the latest and most enduring version of a theory in search of facts.

The original smear against Obama was that he was a crypto-Muslim, floated in 2004 by perennial Illinois political candidate and serial litigant Andy Martin. Other related versions of this theory alleged that Obama was educated in an Indonesian “madrassa” or steeped in Islamist ideology from a young age, and the theories began to spread virally after Obama appeared on the national stage – to the casual observer, from nowhere – with his early 2007 presidential campaign announcement. (See: Obama kin: Birther rumors 'a shame')

All through that year, the Obama campaign – with the affirmation of most leaders of both parties – aggressively battled that smear by emphasizing his Christian faith. Obama’s controversial but emphatically Christian pastor emerged as a campaign issue and the belief that he was a Muslim seemed to lose traction. (See: Clinton: Birther claims 'ludicrous')

Then, as Obama marched toward the presidency, a new suggestion emerged: That he was not eligible to serve. (See: Birther debate alive across U.S.)

That theory first emerged in the spring of 2008, as Clinton supporters circulated an anonymous email questioning Obama’s citizenship.

“Barack Obama’s mother was living in Kenya with his Arab-African father late in her pregnancy. She was not allowed to travel by plane then, so Barack Obama was born there and his mother then took him to Hawaii to register his birth,” asserted one chain email that surfaced on the urban legend site Snopes.com in April 2008.


Another early version of the theory, reported by the Chicago Tribune in June 2008, depended on a specious legal theory that was, for a time, the heart of the argument: that Obama was born in Hawaii but had a Kenyan father, and his mother was only 18 years old. Therefore, under existing immigration law, he was not eligible for automatic citizenship upon birth — a claim that depended on an understandable, but incorrect, reading of immigration law. Other theories suggested that Obama lost his U.S. citizenship when he moved to Indonesia or visited Pakistan in violation of a supposed State Department ban as a young man. (There was no such ban.)

But it dawned on even the most stubborn anti-Obama lawyers that federal courts were not going to recognize their exotic theories of citizenship, and they narrowed their focus on a claim that, if true, might have disqualified Obama, and resonated with the impulse to view him as foreign.


No single author claims parentage for this theory, now advanced by Trump. Even Martin disavows what became the heart of contemporary birther theory – that the president was born in Kenya and smuggled back into the country.

“I’m absolutely convinced he was born in Hawaii,” he told POLITICO.

Jerome Corsi, who would later become a prominent proponent of birther theories, neglected to mention the Obama birth cover-up conspiracy in his 2008 book, “Obama Nation,” instead claiming, without evidence, that Obama maintained both American and Kenyan citizenship. He didn’t respond to POLITICO’s request for comment.

But while the identity of the First Birther is lost to the mists of chain email, one of the first to put his name to the theory was Phil Berg, a former Pennsylvania deputy attorney general who had spent the previous years accusing President George W. Bush of complicity in the Sept. 11 attack.

Berg filed a complaint in federal District court on August 21, 2008 that alleged, “Obama carries multiple citizenships and is ineligible to run for President of the United States. United States Constitution, Article II, Section 1.”

“All the efforts of supporters of legitimate citizens were for nothing because the Obama cheated his way into a fraudulent candidacy and cheated legitimately eligible natural born citizens from competing in a fair process and the supporters of their citizen choice for the nomination,” the suit claims.


The debunking

Ironically, the birther movement didn’t really take off in earnest until the Obama team tried to debunk it.

In June 2008, National Review conservative blogger Jim Geraghty, after debunking a number of conspiracy theories about Obama floated by fellow conservatives, asked the Obama campaign to “return the favor” and just release his birth certificate to the public to put to rest questions about both Obama’s birth and whether, as enemies claimed, his middle name was “Mohammed.”

A few days later, the Obama campaign did exactly that.

They posted Obama’s certificate of live birth on their “Fight the Smears” website and gave a copy to the liberal website Daily Kos. It was greeted with immediate cries that it was a fake.

But Geraghty was satisfied, writing “this document is what he or someone authorized by him was given by the state out of its records. Barring some vast conspiracy within the Hawaii State Department of Health, there is no reason to think his [original] birth certificate would have any different data.”


But others were not swayed. The release of the certificate was declared a forgery. Some bloggers pounced, saying it had Adobe Photoshop watermarks that suggested tampering, that it lacked a raised seal, that it lacked a signature and a number of other accusations.

So began round two.


FactCheck.org, the non-partisan website, was allowed to examine the physical copy of the birth certificate in August 2008, and concluded it was real, that it had a raised seal, a signature and met all the State Department criteria for proof of citizenship. Combined with the state’s recognition that the record was real—and contemporary newspaper announcements of Obama’s birth, submitted by the hospitals —they concluded that he was a natural born citizen.

Hawaii has repeatedly confirmed the document’s authenticity.

“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawai’i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai’i State Department of Health verifying Barrack (sic) Hussein Obama was born in Hawai’i and is a natural-born American citizen,” one exasperated state official said in 2008 and again in 2009 in a statement.

“Of course, it’s distantly possible that Obama’s grandparents may have planted the announcement just in case their grandson needed to prove his U.S. citizenship in order to run for president someday,” FactCheck concluded. But, “those who choose to go down that path should first equip themselves with a high-quality tinfoil hat.”

Birthers have provided no serious response to this evidence, though the technicalities can confuse a casual observer.

The website World Net Daily, for instance, has written that “Hawaii at the time of Obama’s birth allowed births that took place in foreign countries to be registered in Hawaii.” This is true, but such a birth certificate would show the actual foreign place of birth instead of listing – as Obama’s does — Honolulu.

In addition to declaring the document a forgery, the birther movement’s main response – echoed by the ill-informed Trump - has been to claim that only a “long form” birth certificate can be valid. But the document shown by Obama is the only one the State of Hawaii is permitted, by law, to release. It is accepted as valid by the government entities like the State Department.

Hawaii law prevents the long-form record from being photocopied or released to anyone — including Obama. Obama himself would only be permitted to inspect it – not copy it or post it online.

Fukino, an appointee of Linda Lingle, the former Republican governor and John McCain supporter, twice inspected the certificate. According to NBC News’ investigative correspondent Michael Isikoff, the certificate is in a bound volume, in a file cabinet in the Hawaii Department of Health.

“Why would a Republican governor — who was stumping for the other guy — hold out on a big secret?” asked Fukino.

By the summer of 2009, then-White House press secretary Robert Gibbs summarized how convoluted the theory had become with each round of disclosures.

“A pregnant woman leaves her home to go overseas to have a child — who there’s not a passport for — so is in cahoots with someone…to smuggle that child, that previously doesn’t exist on a government roll somewhere back into the country and has the amazing foresight to place birth announcements in the Hawaii newspapers? All while this is transpiring in cahoots with those in the border, all so some kid named Barack Obama could run for President 46 and a half years later,” said Gibbs dismissively. “You couldn’t sell this script in Hollywood.”


The forgeries and the lawsuits

As Obama built a commanding lead in the polls, and was eventually became President-elect, a host of lawsuits were filed to prevent him from taking the oath of office. These lawsuits were combined with a letter-writing campaign to presidential electors as well as a fringe media campaign questioning Obama’s citizenship.


Berg’s August 2008 lawsuit wasn’t the last. A few days after Obama decisively won the election, Alan Keyes — Obama’s former opponent in the 2004 Senate race and a presidential candidate — filed a suit against the Secretary of State in California over Obama’s eligibility. Another suit was filed by a New Jersey man, Leo Donofrio.

A California dentist and lawyer, Orly Taitz, filed another round of suits. Every citizenship suit has been dismissed, and courts have slapped or threatened fines on some of the filers, including Taitz.

And with both the law and the facts against them, birthers have sought to create facts and documents of their own.

Taitz unveiled a purported Kenyan birth certificate in the summer of 2009. It was clearly a hoax – the Republic of Kenya didn’t exist when Obama was born, it was dated three years after his actual birth date, it didn’t match other contemporary Kenyan birth certificates and an anonymous blogger took credit for it, demonstrating with photos how the birthers were “punked” and how he produced the fake certificate.

“Fine cotton business paper: $11. Inkjet printer: $35,” wrote the blogger. “Punkin’ the Birthers: Priceless.”

A second Kenyan certificate was put on eBay in 2009, and Taitz again try to have it admitted into court as evidence, despite being an obvious hoax. And yet another hoax showed a fake sign that reads “Welcome to Kenya, Birthplace of Barack Obama” – that is both clearly Photoshopped and contains Arabic script welcoming visitors to a city in the United Arab Emirates.


The birther purge

In a 2008 story about campaign rumors concerning both Obama and McCain, POLITICO reported “whichever candidate wins, these campaign trail rumors will haunt his presidency.”

They have.

The Republican Party has approached the issue with trepidation, but a 2010 poll found more than a quarter of Americans have doubts about President Obama’s birthplace.

During the 2010 midterm campaigns, a number of Republican candidates went on record expressing doubts about President Obama’s birth. Rep. Nathan Deal, now Governor of Georgia, jumped on the birther bandwagon, becoming the first member of Congress to request Obama’s birth certificate.

Sen. David Vitter (R-La.) said, “I personally don’t have standing to bring litigation in court, but I support conservative legal organizations and others who would bring that to court.” Rep. Jean Schmidt (R-Ohio) told a voter that she agreed with her that the President wasn’t a natural-born citizen — only to walk back her statements.

The party’s most prominent leaders, however, have firmly dismissed the notion and sought to purge birthers both from the Republican Party and from the comments section of conservative blogs.

“I believe the president was born in the United States. There are real reasons to get this guy out of office,” former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney said recently.

“I don’t question the authenticity of his birth certificate, but I do question what planet he’s from when I look at his policies,” former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty joked.

Erick Erickson, editor of the influential conservative blog RedState publicly excommunicated the birthers from his site in 2010.

“If you think 9/11 was an inside job or you really want to debate whether or not Barack Obama is an American citizen eligible to be President, RedState is not a place for you,” he wrote.

Some Republicans take the position out of a basic respect for facts, but they also worry about its consequences for their party.

“It makes us look weird. It makes us look crazy. It makes us look demented. It makes us look sick, troubled, and not suitable for civilized company,” one of the first conservatives to turn against the birthers, talk show host Michael Medved, said in 2009. “I’m not a conspiracist, but this could be a very big conspiracy to make conservatives disgrace themselves.”






http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0411/53563.html

 

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[Upgrade Dave]

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Trump doesn't care. He's being talked about and some even pretend he's some major political player and that's all he wants. He doesn't care if it hurts Romney and I think he hopes it does. Another Obama term could give him more time to talk this birther shit and try to stay in the news.

 

[QueEx]

Trump doesn't care. He's being talked about and some even pretend he's some major political player and that's all he wants. He doesn't care if it hurts Romney and I think he hopes it does. Another Obama term could give him more time to talk this birther shit and try to stay in the news.

And, my hope is that he continues . . .

 

[casavino]

if he was born outside the country he would have a kenya passport to get to hawaii. this whole issue is stupid,but half of the population is stupid enough to believe it

 

[Winslow Wong]

Seriously to believe that an 18 year old white girl went from Hawaii to Kenya and not have to go through a single government check point that would record her movements to give birth to an interracial child that was far from the norm in 1960 and then turn around and put the birth announcement in the newspaper in Hawaii, taking into account that the hospital send out the birth of children not individuals then that means the hospital was in on the conspiracy to create the first black president.

You know something after thinking about Donald trump is right - every aspect of the government including George Bush Justice Dept and State Dept was in cahoots to make sure Obama became president. The entire republican power structure that controlled the executive branch during Bush administration decided to become part of the conspiracy. Hillary and Bill Clinton who was fighting tooth and nail for the nomination decided that they would ignore the fact that they could produce evidence that Obama was not born in this country.

NO I agree Donald Trump the only true patriot in this country knows the truth and is not afraid to speak truth to power.





(btw read The Donald's Art of the Deal to see where he is going with this - about the importance of bullshit in a deal)

 

[QueEx]

Re: $20,000.00 fine for being a bitch of an asshole

Birther leader Orly Taitz has been fined for "wasting the judicial resources" of the Middle District of Georgia with her "frivolous and sanctionable conduct."

Taitz filed a lawsuit demanding that President Obama prove his citizenship before deploying an Army captain to Iraq and Afghanistan. However, the soldier herself has disavowed her lawyer and threatened to file a bar complaint against Taitz.

Judge Clay Land wrote that Taitz's behavior in the case "borders on delusional" and "demonstrates bad faith."

Regrettably, the conduct of counsel Orly Taitz has crossed these lines, and Ms. Taitz must be sanctioned for her misconduct. After a full review of the sanctionable conduct, counsel's conduct leading up to that conduct, and counsel's response to the Court's show cause order, the Court finds that a monetary penalty of $20,000.00 shall be imposed upon counsel Orly Taitz as punishment for her misconduct, as a deterrent to prevent future misconduct, and to protect the integrity of the Court. Payment shall be made to the United States, through the Middle District of Georgia Clerk's Office, within thirty days of today's Order. If counsel fails to pay the sanction due, the U.S. Attorney will be authorized to commence collection proceedings.

In an interview with Talking Points Memo, Taitz said she had no intention of paying the fine. "Are you kidding? Of course not," she said. "This is a form of intimidation."

This bitch still doesn't get it.

The full document:


Link

-VG

'Birther queen' Orly Taitz knows the drill,
but she keeps trying to oust Obama

The Sacramento Bee
Sam Stanton
January 4, 2013

SACRAMENTO, Calif. — Nothing succeeds like persistence - unless you're Orly Taitz.

The 52-year-old lawyer-dentist-real estate agent from Laguna Niguel brought her years-long battle to oust Barack Obama from the presidency to a federal courtroom Thursday in Sacramento.

Her appearance was part of a last-minute bid to stop the counting of electoral college votes in Washington, D.C., that will pave the way for the president's second inauguration Jan. 21.

She failed. Again.

But the hearing before U.S. District Judge Morrison C. England Jr. was hardly routine.

Taitz has been dubbed the "birther queen" for her claims that Obama was born outside the United States and therefore cannot legally be president.

"What we're doing here is the right thing," she said during the hearing at Sacramento's downtown federal courthouse. "It's stopping treason.

"We are looking for one honest judge who will look at the case on its merits."

She ran into a brick wall with England. The judge sparred with her for more than an hour as the hearing played out in a courtroom overflowing with spectators, many of them clearly not Obama supporters.

"Your argument, it doesn't make any sense whatsoever," the judge told her at one point.

In the end, England rejected her request for a temporary restraining order that would stop the tally of electoral college votes and deny Obama a second term.

The hearing stemmed from a suit Taitz filed Dec. 13 on behalf of two electoral college electors and three minor presidential candidates.

In an argument that England noted Taitz has pursued 13 previous times in court, she sought to present evidence that the president's birth certificate is a forgery.

"It's a joke," she told the judge. "It's not even a good forgery."

She added that the president is using a stolen Social Security number, that Obama may not really be his last name and that, basically, he has no right to serve, "not (as) president, not a janitor in the office of president."

The arguments have been explored and debunked for years, but a hard-core group of believers continue to raise them.

Taitz sought to introduce evidence from witnesses about the font size of the type on the president's birth certificate, as well as from an investigation launched by Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Arizona's Maricopa County.

Obama staffers had long ignored the claims, but finally addressed them in the latest campaign when Donald Trump began to raise the issue. A copy of the president's birth certificate from Hawaii was posted on the White House website in an effort to put the matter to an end.

Mention of that by Assistant U.S. Attorney Edward Olsen, who was representing the federal government in court Thursday, brought derisive chuckles from the courtroom audience.

But Olsen was not swayed. "Even if this is all true in their wildest hopes, they still have not presented any evidence that the president is not a natural born citizen," he noted.

Taitz did try to present two witnesses, including one she said she had paid to fly in from Florida, but the judge noted that his order for the hearing allowed only oral arguments.

Taitz spent much of the hearing arguing over that point. The audience became restless, with one man wearing a gray blazer and blue jeans eventually standing up in the front row as if to offer his own argument.

"Sit down," England sternly ordered.

He did, and a court security officer moved closer to him.

"Why do you keep filing these lawsuits when they keep getting rejected?" England asked at one point.

Taitz responded by comparing herself to Thurgood Marshall and his persistence in filing suits to fight segregation. She explained that one of the plaintiffs is a Republican elector for Mitt Romney, who came in second to Obama in November.

"But second," England countered. "What part of 'second' don't you understand?"

Finally, the judge rejected the request for a restraining order, saying Taitz had no hope of prevailing anywhere.

"There is absolutely no way that this case will survive the challenge it faces," he said.

The reaction from courtroom watchers was unmistakable. "Mockery," one man shouted as he stormed out, followed by another who was holding his nose.

"That really stinks," he proclaimed.


©2013 The Sacramento Bee (Sacramento, Calif.)
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[thoughtone]