The Senate is now in Democratic hands.....let's see what the hell they're gonna do? Senate Watch Thread

Patience wanes as Democrats demand Sinema and Manchin reveal views on Biden agenda

 


could this be their plan to establish apartied/minority rule since the white population is being decimated by low birth numbers?

:idea:

relavent portion from cited article:

Senior: Okay, then two questions immediately come out of that. The first is, if you were right in 1998, was Robert Kagan right in The Washington Post a few days ago when he said that the constitutional crisis is already upon us and that 2020 was just a dress rehearsal? How bad do you think this is going to get?

Clinton: I read that article and I have to say I largely agree with it, because I’m not sure that many people—and this includes obviously the public, but also the press—fully appreciate the determination, the relentless pursuit of power, the design of minority rule that we are currently watching happen. I won the popular vote, lost the Electoral College by 70,000-plus votes, and we saw all this stuff online about the Trump campaign and WikiLeaks and the Russians and all of that. And then Joe Biden won by a huge popular-vote margin, but only won the Electoral College by about 100,000 votes. So the parallels between what happened in 2016 and 2020 are not often understood. And why that’s important is, the Republicans—and now we have to say the Republican Party, not just the Trumpers and all of those who are part of this effort to undermine our democracy, but the Republican Party—were shocked that they lost, because they never thought that they would lose by such narrow margins and, we know, accurately and legitimately in places like Georgia or Arizona. So what are they going to do now? Now they’re not only going to try to suppress votes on steroids; they’re going to try to change the way elections are determined. They’re going to try to give legislatures the power to basically throw out elections if they don’t go their way, because now they want to be able to win, even if they lose the popular vote and they legitimately lose the Electoral College.

Read: Hillary Clinton says she was right all along

Senior: What do we do? Are there legislative fixes? Would you end the filibuster?

Clinton: Yes, absolutely. Because keeping the filibuster now, when you’re dealing with a political party that does not respect the rule of law, does not even respect the process unless it works for them—witness what they did to Merrick Garland when President Obama had every right to appoint a Supreme Court justice. You see what they are trying to engineer by using the filibuster, but also equally important, what they’re doing in the states right now. I did an event last night with Tyler Perry and Lin-Manuel Miranda and Sally Yates in Georgia to try to raise money for the people on the front lines, trying to overcome the legislative obstacles that are being put in the way of casting your vote. But the new part [is] having your vote counted, because they want to replace independent people like we saw with the Republican secretary of state in Georgia who stood up to tremendous pressure—now they want to throw elections, if they can, either to state legislatures or if necessary to the House of Representatives, where the vote is counted by state. We are in the middle of a constitutional crisis. It’s like the frog dropped into the water. It’s boiling. People are still arguing about stuff that is important, but not as fundamental as whether or not our democracy will be broken and then taken over. And minority rule will be what we live under, the norm.
 
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could this be their plan to establish apartied/minority rule since the white population is being decimated by low birth numbers?

:idea:

Descend into minority rule? :roflmao3::lol2: Holy shit. Elite cacs been running this shit. Propping up those puppets in D.C. Revolving fucking door on appointers from D.C. to corporate offices(see Gensler, Munchin, Yellen, Clayton, etc).

Oh, and fuck Joe Grizzly. But that bitch been also providing Biden some cover(like on COVID programs biden don't want to continue). Folks have to understand Biden ain't progressive, but can play one against Joe Grizzly perfectly.
 


could this be their plan to establish apartied/minority rule since the white population is being decimated by low birth numbers?

:idea:

relavent portion from cited article:

Senior: Okay, then two questions immediately come out of that. The first is, if you were right in 1998, was Robert Kagan right in The Washington Post a few days ago when he said that the constitutional crisis is already upon us and that 2020 was just a dress rehearsal? How bad do you think this is going to get?

Clinton: I read that article and I have to say I largely agree with it, because I’m not sure that many people—and this includes obviously the public, but also the press—fully appreciate the determination, the relentless pursuit of power, the design of minority rule that we are currently watching happen. I won the popular vote, lost the Electoral College by 70,000-plus votes, and we saw all this stuff online about the Trump campaign and WikiLeaks and the Russians and all of that. And then Joe Biden won by a huge popular-vote margin, but only won the Electoral College by about 100,000 votes. So the parallels between what happened in 2016 and 2020 are not often understood. And why that’s important is, the Republicans—and now we have to say the Republican Party, not just the Trumpers and all of those who are part of this effort to undermine our democracy, but the Republican Party—were shocked that they lost, because they never thought that they would lose by such narrow margins and, we know, accurately and legitimately in places like Georgia or Arizona. So what are they going to do now? Now they’re not only going to try to suppress votes on steroids; they’re going to try to change the way elections are determined. They’re going to try to give legislatures the power to basically throw out elections if they don’t go their way, because now they want to be able to win, even if they lose the popular vote and they legitimately lose the Electoral College.

Read: Hillary Clinton says she was right all along

Senior: What do we do? Are there legislative fixes? Would you end the filibuster?

Clinton: Yes, absolutely. Because keeping the filibuster now, when you’re dealing with a political party that does not respect the rule of law, does not even respect the process unless it works for them—witness what they did to Merrick Garland when President Obama had every right to appoint a Supreme Court justice. You see what they are trying to engineer by using the filibuster, but also equally important, what they’re doing in the states right now. I did an event last night with Tyler Perry and Lin-Manuel Miranda and Sally Yates in Georgia to try to raise money for the people on the front lines, trying to overcome the legislative obstacles that are being put in the way of casting your vote. But the new part [is] having your vote counted, because they want to replace independent people like we saw with the Republican secretary of state in Georgia who stood up to tremendous pressure—now they want to throw elections, if they can, either to state legislatures or if necessary to the House of Representatives, where the vote is counted by state. We are in the middle of a constitutional crisis. It’s like the frog dropped into the water. It’s boiling. People are still arguing about stuff that is important, but not as fundamental as whether or not our democracy will be broken and then taken over. And minority rule will be what we live under, the norm.


That maybe the GOP’s plan (along with some Democrats) to create a minority rule.

The GOP is very good at playing the long game with politics to achieve their objectives unlike the Democrats.

But what is the GOP’s Achilles Heel is they never plan for a “worst case scenario” or the unexpected. All their shenanigans are always knee jerk reactions to something they never expected.

Examples are the 2008 election. Everything was basically setup by the GOP and Democrats to allow Hillary to win. Everybody just assumed Hillary was gonna win and if you brought up in 2007 that Hillary had no chance of winning, mofos would laugh at you.

Then the Black guy with the funny name comes out of left field, wins the nomination and wins the election in a landslide using basically everything that was setup for Hillary.

The quick response by the GOP without putting any thought into was go thru the courts to eliminate sections of the Voting Rights Act and allowing Dark Money into politics.

So….since Obama and Hillary were demonized between 2009 and 2016, everything looked to be setup perfectly for former Governor Jeb Bush to win in 2016.

Then the Orange Head Cheeto came out of left field, wins the nomination and wins the election using everything that was basically setup for Bush to win.

Then the 2020 election comes up and it pretty much looked like Trump was gonna win. But that all changed when a pandemic kicked in forcing states to use mail-in ballots, which had been setup by the GOP decades ago to make it easier for their electorate, that are predominantly old and frail and unable to stand in long lines that the GOP had setup for polling sites.

Then the 2020 election happens. And Biden wins two heavily controlled GOP states of Georgia and Arizona. Both them states have laws on their books making it nearly impossible for a Democratic POTUS candidate to win the state. But Biden managed to win cuz the GOP never thought their own electorate would vote for a Democrat.

Well they did.

So now the knee jerk reaction is coming up with laws to overturn votes (mainly votes of their own electorate who vote Democrat).

And like prior that I stated above…there is something they are not planning for or expect that will make these new laws benefit the Democrats in some way and fuck them over.

In time we will find out.
 
That maybe the GOP’s plan (along with some Democrats) to create a minority rule.

The GOP is very good at playing the long game with politics to achieve their objectives unlike the Democrats.

But what is the GOP’s Achilles Heel is they never plan for a “worst case scenario” or the unexpected. All their shenanigans are always knee jerk reactions to something they never expected.

Examples are the 2008 election. Everything was basically setup by the GOP and Democrats to allow Hillary to win. Everybody just assumed Hillary was gonna win and if you brought up in 2007 that Hillary had no chance of winning, mofos would laugh at you.

Then the Black guy with the funny name comes out of left field, wins the nomination and wins the election in a landslide using basically everything that was setup for Hillary.

The quick response by the GOP without putting any thought into was go thru the courts to eliminate sections of the Voting Rights Act and allowing Dark Money into politics.

So….since Obama and Hillary were demonized between 2009 and 2016, everything looked to be setup perfectly for former Governor Jeb Bush to win in 2016.

Then the Orange Head Cheeto came out of left field, wins the nomination and wins the election using everything that was basically setup for Bush to win.

Then the 2020 election comes up and it pretty much looked like Trump was gonna win. But that all changed when a pandemic kicked in forcing states to use mail-in ballots, which had been setup by the GOP decades ago to make it easier for their electorate, that are predominantly old and frail and unable to stand in long lines that the GOP had setup for polling sites.

Then the 2020 election happens. And Biden wins two heavily controlled GOP states of Georgia and Arizona. Both them states have laws on their books making it nearly impossible for a Democratic POTUS candidate to win the state. But Biden managed to win cuz the GOP never thought their own electorate would vote for a Democrat.

Well they did.

So now the knee jerk reaction is coming up with laws to overturn votes (mainly votes of their own electorate who vote Democrat).

And like prior that I stated above…there is something they are not planning for or expect that will make these new laws benefit the Democrats in some way and fuck them over.

In time we will find out.
Yep and if COVID hadn't happened Trumpkkk would still be in office
 
biden is doing exactly what he wrote in his lift every voice plan
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This thread did not age well at all.
 

Shit. I laugh at us. Hate being part of the masses. Democracy only exists because people are so fucking stupid and easy to manipulate. It's crazy on how much shit these crooks come across the aisles for. The wars, the bankers, and the corporations.


Game is the game. Some just know how to hide it better than others. Folks don't have to directly benefit like he got caught here. Politicians also do favors and call get paid back later. Damn near impossible to prove. Plays out locally right before folks eyes and they miss it. In D.C., it's next-level big. :smh:
 

Bernie got fucked over two times in rigged primaries and still falls in line. Turns the other cheek while on his knees. Company man. Manchin walks around DC like Vince McMahon when he used to do the strut.


It's just crazy how them prideful, goofy cacs support suffering. Just because the like to be abused by employers they demand everyone suffer. That's why politicians like Manchin can do this shit and still have careers. :smh:
 
Bernie got fucked over two times in rigged primaries and still falls in line. Turns the other cheek while on his knees. Company man. Manchin walks around DC like Vince McMahon when he used to do the strut.


It's just crazy how them prideful, goofy cacs support suffering. Just because the like to be abused by employers they demand everyone suffer. That's why politicians like Manchin can do this shit and still have careers. :smh:
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Activists who helped elect Kyrsten Sinema launch CrowdPAC to fund a primary challenger


Organizers say if Sinema doesn't vote to end filibuster and back Biden they'll “replace her with someone who will”
Yeah she is done in 4 years. But people have to atop getting caught up in the moment when they vote and really vet folks.

I think with a little more digging and less emotion folks would have seen her for who she really was....a corporate sellout.
 
The same could be said about black folk. We will have no power until we are willing to hang the democrats out to dry and support someone else. We have to show that we can influence an election in either direction.

Everyone is talking about killing bills and hanging folks out to dry......

Then you get these consequences that set your entire agenda back for a whole damn generation

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Talking about you made a statement.....meanwhile your enemy is making laws. :smh:

Wake da fuck up and think ....the only reason why Manchin and Sinema are even in this position is because yall dumbasses are telling people not to vote.....

Do you honestly think that Sen Ron Johnson and Sen Pat Toomey would be in the Senate if blacks would if come out in full force in Milwaukee and Philadelphia? You make those two seats democrat and Manchin and Sinema can kick rocks.

Cotdamn this shit is simple simon stupid.
 
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Everyone is talking about killing bills and hanging folks out to dry......

Then you get these consequences that set your entire agenda back for a whole damn generation

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Talking about you made a statement.....meanwhile your enemy is making laws. :smh:

Wake da fuck up and think ....the only reason why Manchin and Sinema are even in this position is because yall dumbasses are telling people not to vote.....

Do you honestly think that Sen Ron Johnson and Sen Pat Toomey would be in the Senate if blacks would if come out in full force in Milwaukee and Philadelphia? You make those two seats democrat and Manchin and Sinema can kick rocks.

Cotdamn this shit is simple simon stupid.
Name one thing that the SC has done post Trump that has adversely effected the lives of black folk.

I'll wait.

We have to stop with this boogy man stuff. In fact, the SC went against Trump in a few hearings.
 
Name one thing that the SC has done post Trump that has adversely effected the lives of black folk.

I'll wait.

We have to stop with this boogy man stuff. In fact, the SC went against Trump in a few hearings.
Oh my bad. I guess the SC doesnt really affect black folks because all we need to focus on is "post Trump"

Forget about gutting the voting rights act.
Forget about Brown vs The Board of Education
Forget about Plessy vs Ferguson

I don t think any of these cases effect us today....post Trump......right?

Stop scaring folks, code. These good folks on the SC aint do nothing to us in the last 5 years so they re just insignificant.

Ruler thinking...fuck that yardstick. As usual.
 
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Oh my bad. I guess the SC doesnt really affect black folks because all we need to focus on is "post Trump"

Forget about gutting the voting rights act.
Forget about Brown vs The Board of Education
Forget about Plessy vs Ferguson

I don t think any of these cases effect us today....post Trump......right?

Stop scaring folks, code. These good folks on the SC aint do nothing to us in the last 5 years so they re just insignificant.

Ruler thinking...fuck that yardstick. As usual.
No, you made the case that the new justices were somehow gonna be the end of black folk. You showed the new justices. Not me.

My point simply was and is, in 2021 and beyond, black folk have to demonstrate that our vote will go to whomever will do what's in our best interests.

Ironically, all those cases you mentioned were supported by more Republicans than democrats.
 
If the Democrats were smart.

They would get out all over the country promoting the Bill that they and Biden want. Inform the electorate that their are Democrats trying to sabotage the bill along with the GOP.

Compromise with those and allow what they want to be removed.

Once it’s all removed, put it up for vote. Regardless if it pass’ or fail. They need to get right back out there and put on Blast everybody who fucked up the original bill.

That would be their campaign platform for the 2022 Midterms and 2024 POTUS along with special and local elections.

That will motivate the Democratic electorate to get out and vote in large numbers to increase the small majority on the Federal, State and local level to override the opposition they are facing.

It’s not rocket science.
 
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