The one indisputable argument for LeBron Being the greatest of all time!

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MJ made Dumars a HOFer. He had 0 all star appearances before he made that SI cover. It'd be like Avery Bradley on the cover of SI sonning LeBron. When the top SGs of all time are named, DUMARS name NEVER EVER EVER comes up. Only in reference to Jordan. If MJ never existed Joe would've been a good player on a few championship teams but would not have been a HOFer. His defense locking down Jordan was that legendary. The flagrant foul rule exists because of Dumars handling MJ so tough 3 years in a row he cried to the league for help. No one has ever beaten LeBron 3 years in a row. :smh:
lebron didn't lose 3 yrs in a row to a single person cause everybody was kicking his ass..dwight ask for some, celtics asked for some, jj barea, lenoard, duncan, everybody was kicking his ass left and rite..jordan lost to a dynasty..same dynasty that use to beat the celtics and showtime.. was the magic a dynasty?? mavs?? celtics??..inkosi would be in a room full of posters of nobodies that kicked his ass..it would read so who didn't inkosi lose to instead of mj pic where it showed all the players who didn't win because of him
 
lebron didn't lose 3 yrs in a row to a single person cause everybody was kicking his ass..dwight ask for some, celtics asked for some, jj barea, lenoard, duncan, everybody was kicking his ass left and rite..jordan lost to a dynasty..same dynasty that use to beat the celtics and showtime.. was the magic a dynasty?? mavs?? celtics??

Pistons werent a dynasty. They won 2 titles. Same as the Miami Heat. Hell they whooped his ass before they even won a title. If he had showed up and not wilted under the pressure they wouldve won no titles. He couldve been facing Magic, Kareem, and the Lakers in the 80s Finals instead of being a perennial second round knockout. Youtube Vinnie Johnsons "best game". Look whos guarding him! :lol: That Brooklyn nigga at 6 feet tall microwaved MJs bitch ass.
 
Pistons werent a dynasty. They won 2 titles. Same as the Miami Heat. Hell they whooped his ass before they even won a title. If he had showed up and not wilted under the pressure they wouldve won no titles. He couldve been facing Magic, Kareem, and the Lakers in the 80s Finals instead of being a perennial second round knockout. Youtube Vinnie Johnsons "best game". Look whos guarding him! :lol: That Brooklyn nigga at 6 feet tall microwaved MJs bitch ass.
you do kno detroit went to the finals 3 yrs in a row rite?? they won 2 out of 3..back to back chips..beat the lakers an the blazers..3 straight appearances..use to war with the celtics..sound like a dynasty to me
 
No one ever gives Bill Russell any nod at greatness
11 rings
First black coach
because u can name at least 5 centers u'd rather start over him..lots of arguments are who was the best player ever or the best player at their position and bill russel is neither..bill russel is the only dude that really needs that ring talk when describing greatness.. wilt only had 2 but nobody questions his greatness, lebron lost 4 finals but nobody thinks he ain't top 3 at his position, the list goes on but russel is the only person that needs rings to define where he stands..he was great a rebounding but his offense was horrible
 
by the way that's at least 3 times lebron got outshined by nobodies.. jj barea, iggy, bruce bowen... larry bird never got outshined by kurt rambis, magic never got outshined by danny ainge, hakeem didn't get outshined by tree rollins:itsawrap:
36/13/9 and he got outshined? Cool... :hmm:
 
People pretend to know basketball by ignoring Wilt. The man was Goliath!

I had Wilt is the G.O.A.T. in my sig for like 5 years now. Posters like tallblack, etc know not to debate me when it comes to Wilt. They stick with LeBron because they can easily regurgitate Skip Bayless. Theres no talking head telling them what to say about Wilt. Even with less rings than LeBron I have Wilt ranked as the GOAT.
 
I had Wilt is the G.O.A.T. in my sig for like 5 years now. Posters like tallblack, etc know not to debate me when it comes to Wilt. They stick with LeBron because they can easily regurgitate Skip Bayless. Theres no talking head telling them what to say about Wilt. Even with less rings than LeBron I have Wilt ranked as the GOAT.
u've had cam newton, u have had lebron, u had the map of texas, u had big baller brand, u had a bunch of things for sig/avatar.. everything u touche was cursed by you... cam newton flopped in the superbowl, his team turn to shit and now he dresses like he goes to blue oyster every week..texas been getting all kinda floods since u was riding they dick, lebron well we already kno his fails, wilt rolling in his grave, and we can only imagine how u gonna curse big baller brand
 
u've had cam newton, u have had lebron, u had the map of texas, u had big baller brand, u had a bunch of things for sig/avatar.. everything u touche was cursed by you... cam newton flopped in the superbowl, his team turn to shit and now he dresses like he goes to blue oyster every week..texas been getting all kinda floods since u was riding they dick, lebron well we already kno his fails, wilt rolling in his grave, and we can only imagine how u gonna curse big baller brand
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u've had cam newton, u have had lebron, u had the map of texas, u had big baller brand, u had a bunch of things for sig/avatar.. everything u touche was cursed by you... cam newton flopped in the superbowl, his team turn to shit and now he dresses like he goes to blue oyster every week..texas been getting all kinda floods since u was riding they dick, lebron well we already kno his fails, wilt rolling in his grave, and we can only imagine how u gonna curse big baller brand
Jezzus!!! :roflmao:
 
u've had cam newton, u have had lebron, u had the map of texas, u had big baller brand, u had a bunch of things for sig/avatar.. everything u touche was cursed by you... cam newton flopped in the superbowl, his team turn to shit and now he dresses like he goes to blue oyster every week..texas been getting all kinda floods since u was riding they dick, lebron well we already kno his fails, wilt rolling in his grave, and we can only imagine how u gonna curse big baller brand

Glad u keepin tabs on my sigwork. You cursed the Giants wit that bullshit "we win the bowl every 4 years as a wild card" talk. Had FagDB droppin balls :lol:

Now you gonna curse Oakland again with your KD dickriding.
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You guys are going to hate this but there is no greatest of all time. Not even Jordan and I'm talking in any sport. You maybe the best of your era but not of all time.

You can't cross reference Bill Russell, Oscar Robinson or Abdul-Jabbar with today's stars. We may marvel at LeBron, Curry even Westbrook today but 5 years from now you'll be marveling about somebody else.

Players continue to evolve as does the game. Younger cats still want to label Jordan and his 6 rings as the ultimate achiever. But if rings are the measuring stick Bill Russell was far more successful than anyone with 11 rings.
 
Glad u keepin tabs on my sigwork. You cursed the Giants wit that bullshit "we win the bowl every 4 years as a wild card" talk. Had FagDB droppin balls :lol:

Now you gonna curse Oakland again with your KD dickriding.
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dude now u making shit up..i said gmen have won a superbowl every decade since the 80's...i said the gmen gonna win a superbowl in 3 yrs or less 2 yrs ago..this upcoming season will be yr 3..please top being a female and lying when u arguing..keep it 100 like i do.. kd dickriding nah homie i been said i like kd cause he a fellow libra.. i don't care about the finals but as long as your mancrush don't win it i'm good
 
You guys are going to hate this but there is no greatest of all time. Not even Jordan and I'm talking in any sport. You maybe the best of your era but not of all time.

You can't cross reference Bill Russell, Oscar Robinson or Abdul-Jabbar with today's stars. We may marvel at LeBron, Curry even Westbrook today but 5 years from now you'll be marveling about somebody else.

Players continue to evolve as does the game. Younger cats still want to label Jordan and his 6 rings as the ultimate achiever. But if rings are the measuring stick Bill Russell was far more successful than anyone with 11 rings.
stop it already bill russel is not the best and never was..this ring bullshit need to stop..bill russel is the only person that only claim to fame is rings..he's not wilt, he's not kareem, he's not hakeem, that dude ain't top 5 in his position..greatest is about killers, dominance, who u would pick to start your franchise with..bill russel is none of those... barry sanders never smelled a superbowl but most will consider him the goat rb or top 3.. u see how that works..hell emmit won 3 and nigs still will pick barry over emmit, why cause his skillset was incredible..that's what or how u consider things the best or goat..rings talk was for nigs like bill that couldn't be seen as a monster without the jewelry
 
stop it already bill russel is not the best and never was..this ring bullshit need to stop..bill russel is the only person that only claim to fame is rings..he's not wilt, he's not kareem, he's not hakeem, that dude ain't top 5 in his position..greatest is about killers, dominance, who u would pick to start your franchise with..bill russel is none of those... barry sanders never smelled a superbowl but most will consider him the goat rb or top 3.. u see how that works..hell emmit won 3 and nigs still will pick barry over emmit, why cause his skillset was incredible..that's what or how u consider things the best or goat..rings talk was for nigs like bill that couldn't be seen as a monster without the jewelry

Most old heads consider Russell the GOAT. Its not just the rings, its the dominance defensively. He's a 5x MVP, the 2nd leading rebounder of all time, 2x NCAA champ at a no name school. Russell is the reason blocks and steals are counted, they werent in his day. Russell is the reason theres a DPOY and all defensive teams today, they were none in his day. Russell had so many clutch moments in Finals they created an award in his honor called the Finals MVP. Dude was a winner who controlled basketball games defensively and bullied an entire league for 11 of his 13 seasons. Pretending he isnt in the discussion for GOAT because Jordan never came close to his team success is asinine.
 
Most old heads consider Russell the GOAT. Its not just the rings, its the dominance defensively. He's a 5x MVP, the 2nd leading rebounder of all time, 2x NCAA champ at a no name school. Russell is the reason blocks and steals are counted, they werent in his day. Russell is the reason theres a DPOY and all defensive teams today, they were none in his day. Russell had so many clutch moments in Finals they created an award in his honor called the Finals MVP. Dude was a winner who controlled basketball games defensively and bullied an entire league for 11 of his 13 seasons. Pretending he isnt in the discussion for GOAT because Jordan never came close to his team success is asinine.
zzzzzzz..i already said he could rebound and he had defense..he sucked offensively though.. it's funny how u trying to compare everybody with jordan..i guess u gave up using inkosi after i destroyed him with facts comparing lebron and mj..now u throwing everything at the wall to try to insult jordan.. no matter what u say i'll still pick jordan over lebron and i got the stats to prove why..mj more points, more steals, more blocks, more mvps, more defensive player of the yr awards, more clutch, more chips, more dependable than queen bronny...lebron was looking like horace grant as a 3rd option vs the mavs..joe dumars averaged more points his first 2 finals than ur inkosi lebron did..dumars 1 and 1 in the finals with an finals mvp, bronny 0 and 2 and shooting less than 45%
 
zzzzzzz..i already said he could rebound and he had defense..he sucked offensively though.. it's funny how u trying to compare everybody with jordan..i guess u gave up using inkosi after i destroyed him with facts comparing lebron and mj..now u throwing everything at the wall to try to insult jordan.. no matter what u say i'll still pick jordan over lebron and i got the stats to prove why..mj more points, more steals, more blocks, more mvps, more defensive player of the yr awards, more clutch, more chips, more dependable than queen bronny

You discredit a center whos job was to defend and rebound cuz he wasnt jacking up shots to prop up a guard who wasnt a factor rebounding or putting up assists but jacked up the most shots. Russell has an NBA Finals triple double, wheres MJs? Russell went thru Wilt for his rings, MJ went thru Hersey Hawkins and Hornacek. What a wonderful time to be alive, you Jordan dickriders are running out of talking points.
 
You discredit a center whos job was to defend and rebound cuz he wasnt jacking up shots to prop up a guard who wasnt a factor rebounding or putting up assists but jacked up the most shots. Russell has an NBA Finals triple double, wheres MJs? Russell went thru Wilt for his rings, MJ went thru Hersey Hawkins and Hornacek. What a wonderful time to be alive, you Jordan dickriders are running out of talking points.
so why does lebron have less blocks than a shooting guard and less steals than a shooting guard that juss jacks up shots?? wade played 100 less games than lebron and he only 17 blocks behind lebron..wade mite pass him to..why is the leader of the team the 3rd best scorer in the finals?? jordan never got outscored by horace grant in the finals or pippen.. why lebron averaged less than 20 point per game in his first 2 finals??? why did he have more turnovers than steals and blocks combine in the finals?? earlier u said lebron has passed mj in stats but yet mj has more career points, stls, blks and only played 11 more games..so what stats are u talking about..these are the inkosi facts and questions
 
stop it already bill russel is not the best and never was..this ring bullshit need to stop..bill russel is the only person that only claim to fame is rings..he's not wilt, he's not kareem, he's not hakeem, that dude ain't top 5 in his position..greatest is about killers, dominance, who u would pick to start your franchise with..bill russel is none of those... barry sanders never smelled a superbowl but most will consider him the goat rb or top 3.. u see how that works..hell emmit won 3 and nigs still will pick barry over emmit, why cause his skillset was incredible..that's what or how u consider things the best or goat..rings talk was for nigs like bill that couldn't be seen as a monster without the jewelry

I never said Russell was the best. Although 11 rings does beat the fuck out of 6 every time. But as I said earlier its about the era the player played in. As for Bill Russell not being the greatest maybe. But you can't deny he consistently dominated the biggest man in the game Wilt Chamberlain.

Knowing the overall records of Russell (11 rings) and Chamberlain (2 rings) no way would I take Chamberlain. Don't forget it was Chamberlain who forced the league to change the dimensions of the key. Yet he struggled to win. Maybe Russell wasn't top 5 in any category but he sure had Chamberlain's number.

The simple fact is some people are just winners while some are not. Its about being a winner not scoring. Who does what's needed at that time to get that win. As dominate as LeBron was in last years playoffs it was Kyrie Irving that sank the winning basket. Its not about stats its about winning.
 
so why does lebron have less blocks than a shooting guard and less steals than a shooting guard that juss jacks up shots?? wade played 100 less games than lebron and he only 17 blocks behind lebron..wade mite pass him to..why is the leader of the team the 3rd best scorer in the finals?? jordan never got outscored by horace grant in the finals or pippen.. why lebron averaged less than 20 point per game in his first 2 finals??? why did he have more turnovers than steals and blocks combine in the finals?? earlier u said lebron has passed mj in stats but yet mj has more career points, stls, blks and only played 11 more games..so what stats are u talking about..these are the inkosi facts and questions

LeBron is the playoff all time leading scorer. Jordan is 2nd and will be a distant 2nd by next playoff.

LeBron is #3 all time in playoff assists. Jordan is 10th.

LeBron is #7 all time in playoff rebounds. Jordan is #42

LeBron is #3 all time in playoff 3pt FGs. Jordan is #32

LeBron is #2 all time in playoff steals. Jordan is 3rd

LeBron is #21 all time in playoff blocks, Jordan is #32.

LeBron has more playoff triple doubles (17 to 2)

LeBrons win shares are higher in the playoffs

LeBron this playoff is shooting better from the field (in the paint and from 3) than Jordan ever did.

LeBron came back from 3-1, Jordan has a lower scoring average and losing record in elimination games.

LeBrons last 2 Finals are better than any of Jordans. Jordan won a Final shooting 41% averaging 27, 5, and 4. If LeBron posts those #'s we'd be asking whats wrong with him? Jordan never was and never will be LeBron. His myth and shoes always been greater than the player.
 
LeBron is the playoff all time leading scorer. Jordan is 2nd and will be a distant 2nd by next playoff.

LeBron is #3 all time in playoff assists. Jordan is 10th.

LeBron is #7 all time in playoff rebounds. Jordan is #42

LeBron is #3 all time in playoff 3pt FGs. Jordan is #32

LeBron is #2 all time in playoff steals. Jordan is 3rd

LeBron is #21 all time in playoff blocks, Jordan is #32.

LeBron has more playoff triple doubles (17 to 2)

LeBrons win shares are higher in the playoffs

LeBron this playoff is shooting better from the field (in the paint and from 3) than Jordan ever did.

LeBron came back from 3-1, Jordan has a lower scoring average and losing record in elimination games.

LeBrons last 2 Finals are better than any of Jordans. Jordan won a Final shooting 41% averaging 27, 5, and 4. If LeBron posts those #'s we'd be asking whats wrong with him? Jordan never was and never will be LeBron. His myth and shoes always been greater than the player.
mj 179 games lj 212... u always forget to mention stuff like lebron played 33 more games than mj that's why he leads mj in certain stats..it took him 30 more playoff games to surpass jordan in points..the stat padder needs more games in order to surpass him..like i said emmit smith all over again when it came to barry..had to play more games to beat barry record..lebron got to play more games in order to surpass mj.. the funny thing juss like a stat padder when it counts he fails.. all those stats and less jewelry..7 finals and yet has 3 less rings..less bring out them averages stat padder
 
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u kno he tries to downplay jordan comp while making people like jj barea seem like larry bird times 2... u see how once i flipped the script on jordan other stats now he hawking on lebron playoff stats..lol yrs ago he would be bragging about reg season now since i crushed him with jordan other reg stats he's now making the playoff stats seem like the most important thing ever lol..lebron curve strikes again
 
mj 179 games lj 212... u always forget to mention stuff like lebron played 33 more games than mj that's why he leads mj in certain stats..it took him 30 more playoff games to surpass jordan in points..the stat padder needs more games in order to surpass him..like i said emmit smith all over again when it came to barry..had to play more games to beat barry record..lebron got to play more games in order to surpass mj.. the funny thing juss like a stat padder when it counts he fails.. all those stats and less jewelry..7 finals and yet has 3 less rings..less bring out them averages stat padder
Hes taken 118 less shots than Jordan tho... More efficient. And while your argument supports the total numbers contention, it does not discredit lebron and terms of across-the-board averages as it compares to Jordan. He averages more rebounds, assist, and the only thing Jordan has over him is points scored. The fact that in 30 Games less hes taken a 118 less shots Indicates he is more efficient score in Jordan and Jordan was more Trigger happy.

So tell me who's game was more efficient?
 
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