Wait, the two time MVP and best player in the world (at the time according to bgol) didnt win finals MVP!????
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My bad. But yeah Jordan played against bonafide HOFers, Lebron not so much he should be ashamed that he let Terry and Barrea stunt on him like that. With that said I think Lebron was a better physical talent than Jordan but not the better competitor.
Compared to:
Durant
Green
Curry
Thompson
Iggy
Duncan
Parker
Ginobili
Kawhi
Allen
Pierce
Garnett
Kidd
Melo
Billups
Ben Wallace
Rasheed Wallace
Harden
Howard
Westbrook
George
Joe Johnson
And the thing is, when Jordan played them none were HOFers. Hawkins and Hornacek are who Jordan guarded in 3 of his 6 Finals. The best player he guarded was Drexler, none of the others were HOFers or all star regulars. LeBron has guarded Kawhi twice and now Durant twice. Much stiffer Finals comp. And much more stacked teams with up to 4 potential HOFers, the most MJ saw was 2 on the Jazz.
Jordan had 2 of his teams make the playoffs without him. His 86 team led by Gervin and Woolridge (he missed almost all the season) and his 94 team that won 55 games and saw his teammates have career years without him. Pete Myers ass nigga. Put Pete Myers on the Cavs, they wont get out the 1st round.
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i wasn't questioning who faced better talent, just showing you that Jordan went against more than the two individuals you named.
But since you posted those names, let's try this. How many people from your list either won a ring by going thru Lebron or beat lebron in the playoffs, compared to how many people on my list won a ring thru Jordan or beat jordan in the playoffs. And since your list is longer than mine, i will let you add the names that Drizzy mentioned. Plus Bird and Magic. Let's see what those numbers look like. Oh, add Dirk to your list please.
You said jordan guarded Hawkins and Hornacek huh. Either of them walk away with a FMVP? How about the guys Lebron guarded? Did any of them walk away with one?
that's because players weren't acting like bitches and trying to build super teams back then. You do that shit when you got like 3 years left in the league.
NVP?A bench role player won a finals most valuable player award, for playing defense on lebron, and 'holding' him to an average of 36 points, 13 rebounds, and 8 assists for the entire series. When your so good, that a player wins and NVP award for 'holding' you to that stat line, nothing else needs to be said...
when i'm goin to war i'm goin with a bonafide killer not a person that freezes up against a horse jockey and a drunk uncle..jordan never let horace grant outshine him in the finals or was the 3rd leading scorer on the team when it came down to finishing the job or clutch..i like killers that's not scared to take the shot, go all out and win it for the team.. why i like jordan, bird, kareem, hakeem etc..the team with the most points win the game not the team with the most rebs, steals, blocks, etc..as i said b4 jordan over inkosi in my book..when it's all said and done jordan close to 800 more steals, 50+ more blocks than lebron all time with only a 11 game diff..by next yr when inkosi plays more games jordan will still have more points, steals, blocks..which means he's the more efficent player..pippen played the point forward so that's why jordan assist ain't up..when he played the pg he was getting double doubles
I wouldn't say sucked cuz. Not at 15.1ppg for a career and 18.9 for his best year.
he was offensively challenged.. his skillset was not the best..dwight howard status maybe even less
Bill Russell initiated the Celtics up tempo offense with his full court passes after rebounds or keeping his blocks in play to start transitions. Keep posting.
now u riding bill russel dick now u gonna curse him to bill bless your heart but the king t dickrider curse mite hurt you to..bill pray that the inkosi lover don't put you in his sig/avatar nextBill Russell initiated the Celtics up tempo offense with his full court passes after rebounds or keeping his blocks in play to start transitions. Keep posting.
No its because the teams Jordan faced in the 90s were wack and diluted thanks to expansion. Several teams in the 70s and 80s had multiple HOFers and were "super teams".
You a proud NY nigga dickriding Oakland and KD. Got Bills and Day_Carver scared shitless you gon jinx them with your fuckery.
but an expansion team went to the finals..ever heard of the magic??.. it's funny how people try to diss expansion teams yet 1 was in the finals with the quickness
how am i dickriding gsw.. i said i wouldn't mind seeing kd winning a ring..i said as long as lebron don't win i could careless who the fuck would win it..the grizzly could've been playing and i would rather see them holding a trophy over lebron.. i've made no threads about the warriors, i've prob made less than 5 comments all yr bout the gsw.. i'm a proud bulls fan.. u suppose to be a heat fan but i hear u never mention shit about the heat an hear u talk more about the cavs than the heat whats up with that??
the magic beat 2 other teams in the playoffs to get to the finals.. they also had to win a shitload of games in order to get to the playoffs..so according to you it was the whole nba fault..cause mad reg season wins =playoff appearance...winning 3 rounds=final appearanceAnd who's fault was that?
by the way jordan jr uhh i mean lebron also copied jordan and lost to the magic which allowed them to go to the finals..so lj wore the same number, jump on the same shoe company, lost to the celtics, lost to the magic, juss like his pops..tell lebron get off jordan dick and stop copying him
corny..every month u jump on somebody bandwagon..not enough shirts in 1 walmart aisle for how many nigs/teams u wore.. u was a cavs fan, than a heat fan, than a cavs fan again, u was a panthers fan, big baller fan, wilt fan, texas fan, dame dash fan, etc whose next..soon u gonna be a lonzo fan
LeBron has beaten the Celtics in 4 series now. How many playoff games MJ win against them?
not as many as lj cause he didn't face them as often ..but i kno jordan beat 6 teams in the west in june how many lebron beat???
He faced the Celtics in the playoffs more than Bradley Beal. And Beal got more playoff wins than that man.
Only teams he even won a game against as an underdog was them wack ass Cavs teams with soft ass Brad Daugherty and Hot Rod. And even that took a lucky ass shot in Game 5. Think about that, his iconic "the shot" moment was in the 1st round. Nig got hype about winning a chance to get his ass kicked by the Pistons in 5 games.
His 88 season in the playoffs was a major letdown after all them REGULAR SEASON awards he won and he folded like a tent to Vinnie and Joe.
cool some people are happy about winning a playoff series meanwhile others are happy winning a playoff finals.. lebron beating the celtics is greatness to him cause he's an underachiever in the finals..jordan on the other hand takes pride in winning in june .. how lebron do in them june series??..u kno joe dumars has a better winning percentage in june than lebron rite??? u kno it only took him 3 tries to have a winning percentage over 500 in the finals rite.. u kno lebron would have to win this yr and than go again and win another won juss to be over 500.. that's 9 triesHe faced the Celtics in the playoffs more than Bradley Beal. And Beal got more playoff wins than that man.
Only teams he even won a game against as an underdog was them wack ass Cavs teams with soft ass Brad Daugherty and Hot Rod. And even that took a lucky ass shot in Game 5. Think about that, his iconic "the shot" moment was in the 1st round. Nig got hype about winning a chance to get his ass kicked by the Pistons in 5 games.
He does great. He goes every year and already done seen more Junes than MJ at a younger age. By the time he's 35 he'll have 6-7 rings. MJ wouldve quit last year. After 3 straight Junes he always bitched up and quit err retired. He was too mentally weak to go to this many Finals in a row. He only saw 6 in 15 seasons, the other 9 he was Canibus, second round knockout. This is LeBrons 8th in 14. And for the 7th time, he's the underdog.
jordan had won more times in 3 tries than lebron did in 6 why is that.. it takes lebron mad tries juss to equal what jordan achieves..is lebron retarded or is jordan juss smarter??
He takes teams farther. LeBron was in the Finals in his 4th season at 22. Jordan at 22 was getting smoked by the Bucks in the first round. And in his 4th season it took "the shot" to finally win a playoff series after failing the first 3 times. LeBron actually won his first playoff series. Jordan only going to 6 Finals is a dissapointment. He shouldve got the Bulls there sooner instead of 6 seasons of losing and choking. But he was a late bloomer and took years and years to learn how to win. Bron was actually younger than him when he did win one.
jordan never averaged less than 20 in the finals..horace grant or scottie pippen never outscored him in the finals..he was never the reason why his team failed in the finals like lebron did with the mavs..jordan never shot a weak ass 35 percent from the field like lebron did his first finals..u said jordan spend 6 seasons choking well lebron spent his first 2 seasons not even goin to the playoffs.. he was a virgin when it came to playoff talk his first few yrs unlike jordan who dropped 60+ vs the celtics.. lebron arena was showcasing circus acts during the nba playoffs cause bball wasn't being played..and taking a team farther means winning it all lebron dosen't take his team farther when it comes to that
I am far from a conspiracy theorist...
but
damn
they REALLY swept that hate crime on Lebron James under the rug REAL quick, huh?
but
damn
they REALLY swept that hate crime on Lebron James under the rug REAL quick, huh?