The official ** KEVIN SAMUELS ** discussion thread
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If you actually listen he does provide his sources.That's HIS job. He should be providing his sources at the moment he claims stats and data. That's what actual experts in any field do. Maybe you should ask yourself why you automatically trusted this man's word. After all, you're his fan not me.
How is that shit old to him if that's what's pulling in income for him? If that was the case, he'd stop doing it and do something else. What he does isn't a public service. It's him giving a condescending opinion for the sake of being controversial. Again that makes money for him IE:. He's a professional asshole. He interrupts, insults and overtalks women when they begin to make a point that's greater than the one he makes. That equals either: A: insecurity or B: him protecting his bottom line by not letting strong counterview points be heard that would make people question his shit.
LMFAO. Are you serious? You just said in the previous paragraph that he's an arrogant dick. That means he lacks decorum himself. So how is he in a position to dictate decorum to someone else? What lack of decorum on the women's part? LOL!!! Who is the one in those conversations ridiculing, insulting and cutting people down. By and large it's him. FOH. I don't feel sorry for the women who call in either. I genuinely feel kinda bad for people like yourself who are easily taken in by a guy like him.
Thank you for the acknowledgment.
Man GTFOH with that. That's what I TOLD YOU in my last message because you seemed so intent on defending this one man so much, you ignored all other points of view. If YOU were doing anything else but binging on his content, you sure haven't shown it in your comments here.
You actually just dedicated another whole paragraph to daytime talk shows?Brother. Is there not Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube? Far more women are weighing in with intelligent, well thought opinions on any single one of those platforms than the collective of those handfuls of daytime talk shows. You're giving way to much weight to daytime tv.
You know what's funny? I rarely see any brothas in this forum who speak about themselves looking for a woman to marry. In 16 years of being on BGOL, I MAY be able to count on one hand the amount of times I've seen that. I don't know why that is exactly. Do we think we'll be seen as soft or something if we speak on things like that? I don't really know. I'm sure they're here. On the flipside, there's a number of brothas bragging about how many chicks they fuck and a lot other dudes co-signing that juvenile shit. Do your thing, I say, But for those to whom this applies, it seems odd to complain about women being delusional about wanting a high value man while behaving as low value men.
He definitely tears them down. His whole schtick he throws in their faces about men inventing everything and women's not being able to survive otherwise is a prime example. Ignoring the fact that women had historically been relegated to certain roles throughout history by force. As well, it ignores the fact that whatever men came up with, there'd be no men or women without mothers.
This is kinda sad man. Did you happen to notice that none of the videos you put here were posted after January 30, 2020? Every single one was before Kevin went viral. Meaning that the overwhelming bulk of his videos after he went viral were focused on criticizing Black women. I don't believe for a second you took "a couple minutes" to search those few out that you posted. Playlists, you said? Go to his page and compare the number of videos in his playlists that holds Black men accountable to the number of videos in his single playlist that's going in on women. Then pay attention to the fact that most of those videos holding Black men accountable are between 1 and 3 years old.
Or manually scroll through his "videos" tab for the last several months since he started getting notice. Almost all are on the same vibe. The balance you claim is not there. Sir, stop with the alternative realities and gaslighting. Brother, I'm not being contrarian. I'm being a grownup.
I absolutely do watch other content. Kinda started to fade off of KS's shit when his schtick started to get redundant. By the way, from his own playlists, at present there are 87 of videos Kevin Samuels videos dealing specifically with taking men to task and that's in his entire time on YouTube. He's got 188 videos taking women to task- most just within the last 6 months. 427 fragrance review videos.
That's HIS job. He should be providing his sources at the moment he claims stats and data. That's what actual experts in any field do. Maybe you should ask yourself why you automatically trusted this man's word. After all, you're his fan not me.
How is that shit old to him if that's what's pulling in income for him? If that was the case, he'd stop doing it and do something else. What he does isn't a public service. It's him giving a condescending opinion for the sake of being controversial. Again that makes money for him IE:. He's a professional asshole. He interrupts, insults and overtalks women when they begin to make a point that's greater than the one he makes. That equals either: A: insecurity or B: him protecting his bottom line by not letting strong counterview points be heard that would make people question his shit.
LMFAO. Are you serious? You just said in the previous paragraph that he's an arrogant dick. That means he lacks decorum himself. So how is he in a position to dictate decorum to someone else? What lack of decorum on the women's part? LOL!!! Who is the one in those conversations ridiculing, insulting and cutting people down. By and large it's him. FOH. I don't feel sorry for the women who call in either. I genuinely feel kinda bad for people like yourself who are easily taken in by a guy like him.
Thank you for the acknowledgment.
Man GTFOH with that. That's what I TOLD YOU in my last message because you seemed so intent on defending this one man so much, you ignored all other points of view. If YOU were doing anything else but binging on his content, you sure haven't shown it in your comments here.
You actually just dedicated another whole paragraph to daytime talk shows?
You know what's funny? I rarely see any brothas in this forum who speak about themselves looking for a woman to marry. In 16 years of being on BGOL, I MAY be able to count on one hand the amount of times I've seen that. I don't know why that is exactly. Do we think we'll be seen as soft or something if we speak on things like that? I don't really know. I'm sure they're here. On the flipside, there's a number of brothas bragging about how many chicks they fuck and a lot other dudes co-signing that juvenile shit. Do your thing, I say, But for those to whom this applies, it seems odd to complain about women being delusional about wanting a high value man while behaving as low value men.
He definitely tears them down. His whole schtick he throws in their faces about men inventing everything and women's not being able to survive otherwise is a prime example. Ignoring the fact that women had historically been relegated to certain roles throughout history by force. As well, it ignores the fact that whatever men came up with, there'd be no men or women without mothers.
This is kinda sad man. Did you happen to notice that none of the videos you put here were posted after January 30, 2020? Every single oneanwas before Kevin went viral. Meaning that the overwhelming bulk of his videos after he went viral were focused on criticizing Black women. I don't believe for a second you took "a couple minutes" to search those few out that you posted. Playlists, you said? Go to his page and compare the number of videos in his playlists that holds Black men accountable to the number of videos in his single playlist that's going in on women. Then pay attention to the fact that most of those videos holding Black men accountable are between 1 and 3 years old.
Or manually scroll through his "videos" tab for the last several months since he started getting notice. Almost all are on the same vibe. The balance you claim is not there. Sir, stop with the alternative realities and gaslighting. Brother, I'm not being contrarian. I'm being a grownup.
I absolutely do watch other content. Kinda started to fade off of KS's shit when his schtick started to get redundant. By the way, from his own playlists, at present there are 87 of videos Kevin Samuels videos dealing specifically with taking men to task and that's in his entire time on YouTube. He's got 188 videos taking women to task- most just within the last 6 months. 427 fragrance review videos.
Bro...I know you believe you're being a grownup. But what you're doing is protecting women like they are children. They're not. They're grown ass people. Sometimes we all need a hard talking to. That's what the guy represents. Do you know the #1 complaint women have about KS? His tone. Not that he's wrong, off base, or factually incorrect...it's his tone. Basically the same issue you seem to have with him. And again you have not watched as much of his content as you claim because you would know that he often cites BLACKDEMOGRAPHICS.COM and the Dept Of Labor as some of the places where he gets his data. It's your fault that you don't know that, not mine. You're upset because the guy is hot popularity wise and women want to talk to him more and consume his content more now that's he's a viral sensation? Take that up with women. Because THEY are the driving force behind his new found popularity. Men have been down with him for a while now and have been his core audience all along. It's the women that are new. He'd be crazy not to take advantage of his audience expanding and giving them what they want right now. And bruh...this is BGOL. You're not going to find a lot of hardcore, serious discussions of marriage. The BGOL version of that is when somebody posts a bad female and cats start posting pics of rings in response. This forum was built on ass and titties, sir. Not thoughtful discourse on marriage.
That sounds similar to what Einstein said about genius and stupidity.
Yeah, same.
I definitely see humans scientifically and mathematically.
Humans behavior has no upper or lower limits.
Humans morality has boundaries conditions.
The human experience are sine waves.
Newton’s third law can be applied to human behavior.
Human emotion are dispersive waves.
Human emotions are derivatives.
And so on.
Thank you helping jog my memory that he does at times reference blackdemographics.com and the department of labor. Many times he does not. And on a number of occasions he makes claims that are either untrue, incomplete or not quantifiable in order to win arguments. I‘ve already mentioned what some of those specific claims were.Bro...I know you believe you're being a grownup. But what you're doing is protecting women like they are children. They're not. They're grown ass people. Sometimes we all need a hard talking to. That's what the guy represents. Do you know the #1 complaint women have about KS? His tone. Not that he's wrong, off base, or factually incorrect...it's his tone. Basically the same issue you seem to have with him. And again you have not watched as much of his content as you claim because you would know that he often cites BLACKDEMOGRAPHICS.COM and the Dept Of Labor as some of the places where he gets his data. It's your fault that you don't know that, not mine. You're upset because the guy is hot popularity wise and women want to talk to him more and consume his content more now that's he's a viral sensation? Take that up with women. Because THEY are the driving force behind his new found popularity. Men have been down with him for a while now and have been his core audience all along. It's the women that are new. He'd be crazy not to take advantage of his audience expanding and giving them what they want right now. And bruh...this is BGOL. You're not going to find a lot of hardcore, serious discussions of marriage. The BGOL version of that is when somebody posts a bad female and cats start posting pics of rings in response. This forum was built on ass and titties, sir. Not thoughtful discourse on marriage.
BGOL is actually the wild, wild west. A place so savage almost everybody here holds onto their anonymity with a death grip. What you said about it being built on ass and titties is something I’d been thinking about myself the latter part of your and my discussion. It’s a valid point. Do I look at the women? Hell yeah I do. In short, women are objectified here daily. So that could possibly inform an overall viewpoint that tends not to consider them as whole human beings, period. That’s not necessarily a good thing. It’s ok when looking at sexy pics and videos, but in everyday life and relating with women in real time? Not always so good.
That said, when I first came here, the main board was maybe 75% about porn. Now it’s more like 75% general discussion that’s in no way porn related and 25% porn related. We talk about almost everything: politics, sports, technology, injustice, current events, music, cutting the cord etc... and beautiful and sexy women and porn. I remember a few years ago when a brotha got married and posted his wedding pics. When people get married and have children and raise them together, that provides a healthy model for the generations that come after us. However we were raised is the only example we know personally and have lived. Whatever household and parenting any child is born into is what they will consider normal and they will often grow up and follow suit in how they do things. Cycles continue. A lot of us didn’t come from families whose parents stayed together for the long haul. A lot of us were raised by single mothers and didn’t have fathers in the home or in our lives for the most part. I consider myself extremely blessed that during the bulk of my childhood I got to experience what a healthy family is, not a perfect one but a healthy one. I feel equally blessed that they instilled in me a love for learning, respect for them, for myself, for the Most High, a love for my Black people and what my responsibilities are as a man. They taught me that in this life I’m responsible for more than just my own immediate wants and needs. I don’t take that any of that for granted. I know that many of us didn’t have a lot of those things. I don‘t know what your background is. I hope things were good for you coming up and that life is treating you well. So to conclude this thought, within the 75% of what we do talk about that’s non porn related, I’d love it if we all discoursed more about parenting, how to build good relationships, dating tips, etc. They’re as much a part of all of our lives as COVID, sex, sports and police misconduct. Maybe if we did that from time to time, it would bring some of the women back who used to positively contribute to discussions for so many years. But in the end, this place is gonna be what it’s gonna be.
As for the other things you mentioned... I’m not at all upset that Kevin Samuels is popular. Been celebrating it all along, in fact. Nah I don’t protect any of the women Kevin talks to. Some are delusional. But there’s also a number of em that aren’t that actually have something of value to add to the conversation that he barely lets get a word in edgewise before shooting them down. However, as you said, he’s a dick. Demands respect but himself initiates disrespect. As I’ve said many times, the ones who watch his show and still call in ought to know what they’re getting into. I also don’t necessarily feel that every time something about women is criticized, that one needs in the same discussion to criticize men. However in my previous post, I did prove that contrary to what you said, since his popularity jumped off, he has not been anything near balanced with taking us to task for our shit the way he does with women. What I don‘t care for is not so much about his sassy verbal tone as much as his repeated unwillingness to fully listen and his tendency throw out unprovoked ad hominems at women- even outside the context and atmosphere of those calling into his show seeking high value men. It was fun and games until I started seeing brothas indiscriminately throwing women in general into the same bucket of delusion whether or not they sought high value men. I want to see us as Black men be the best we can be. Around these parts, it’s looked at as hate if someone points out something they legit don’t like about a dude like Kevin’s presentation and/or message. That’s unfortunate. We should always be able to acknowledge the bad along with the good and not just dismiss the bad. To only be able to see the good and fiercely defend and erase the negatives in my eyes, borders on worshipping dudes like him. As for his female audience, I see a lot more very young chicks supporting him than mature women who’ve lived life.
I’ve got more to say regarding his popularity in particular but this post is long enough, so I’ll save it for a future post.
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Bruh this topic aint even that serious.Second and third hand information will be the death of us.
That's the thing. Some guys actually enjoy having conversations with women, while others have no use for woman other than fucking.
In terms of balance, my only point is that he has addressed men and our issues. But that clearly isn't his focus at this point and I don't believe it has to be or needs to be. He is riding his content wave and that's ok. There are other places people can go to hear more discussion about what men should be doing. KS is an extremely important voice right now because he is addressing some things that are long overdue and go way beyond his "shtick". The last couple of weeks have featured some calls and commentary that has been particularly insightful about how Black women demonstrate their feelings and opinions about Black men. And while I get that it doesn't apply to every Black woman, it applies to a considerable enough of them to warrant serious discussion.
Unfortunately, you're going to have some men that misuse what he does. But that will always be the case and it's up to all of us to correct/call out those things when we hear them from friends/family/potnas, etc. But it doesn't negate the good he's doing in terms of Black men and women re-evaluating our relationship with each other, examining what we both need, and if it's possible to get what we need. This conversation from a man's perspective is long, long overdue and his growing popularity is proof of that. Sometimes folks have to be shocked and appalled into certain conversations and he is certainly doing that.
Smashed many of these.
J Black going in on him live right now...
Damn! Called him out by name and everything.
I can't discern whether he's envious of KS's elevation and is looking to go viral with this or WHAT?
He's pointed out a couple of observations that I've made, but Jason tends to rail on this Boomers wanting interracial sexual access, and so on...
Iono man.
I can't discern whether he's envious of KS's elevation and is looking to go viral with this or WHAT?
He's pointed out a couple of observations that I've made, but Jason tends to rail on this Boomers wanting interracial sexual access, and so on...
Iono man.
Damn! Called him out by name and everything.
I can't discern whether he's envious of KS's elevation and is looking to go viral with this or WHAT?
He's pointed out a couple of observations that I've made, but Jason tends to rail on this Boomers wanting interracial sexual access, and so on...
Iono man.
I love him and Professor truth, but this was pure hate man.
And jealousy
4 hours??!!
I'm always curious, what kind of man has the time to sit and talk to himself for 4 hours???!!!
That's some borderline psychotic behavior.
No, it is. That's how this comes off. And I like this guy for the most part.
He sat there explaining how he's upset his messages are being absorbed and are resonating and inspiring people. He could have called that man, messaged him anything! Instead he lowered himself to the level of the types of people he speaks against.
This was a bad look for him
Is there a specific time in the video or does he spend the whole 4 hours talking about him?
and faghotry
I listen to both. KS is just Jason Black for the Divine 9/Boule/Professional negro. Jason is more for the boots on the ground brand of black person. KS is necessary because the average Bougie negro would never listen to Jason because of his Black first message. Remove ‘Kill all the whites’ message and dress it up in a suit and you have KS. And it hits mainstream. I wouldn’t be surprised if they working together on some WWE shit.
I disagree. They have totally different audiences. There was know reason for Jason to even acknowledge him.
Do you condone what Jason did with this video?
I like Jason's content so much, I almost don't even want to admit this. Bit yea, faggotry. I hope he rectifies this in the future
Shit was weak
I fuck with JB HEAVY...but it’s been clear from the jump that he’s jealous of Samuels. He accused him of stealing his shit (which he clearly hasn’t), and then started taking bits from him (asking chicks their dress size, what they rate themselves). Niggas got ego problems
Sure. Grown man shit. He named names. Can’t be mad at that. He didn’t call him gay, or talk about his personal life, or being divorced or none of that shit that KS critics like to do (which is hoe shit).
Name names. Point em out.
Jason has always maintained that Kevin ripped off his talkings points:Namely idea and definition of high value.
I do think he is very envious that Kevin blew up in the same space, but he also has a big point about how Kevin Samuels seems comfortable name dropping White supremacists like Jordan Peterson while also hanging out in white manosphere space.
I do think he is very envious that Kevin blew up in the same space, but he also has a big point about how Kevin Samuels seems comfortable name dropping White supremacists like Jordan Peterson while also hanging out in white manosphere space.
Is it possible not to have a huge ego though? Seems like these podcast kats share similar ego issues over time.
I believe it's because their audience validates their content and opinions, therefore driving their ego levels up.
Like, having enough people to agree with you can make you feel superior?
It's all in the first hour and change. When I tuned in he was taking phone calls and I scrolled back to the beginning of the stream and listened until he started taking the calls and then clicked off. I didn't know how much longer he had continued the stream.
Yeah I think he spent the first hour talking about the topic and the rest is all phone calls.
But call him out for what?!?!?
If Kevin has taken talking points and is applying it to a social landscape rather than a political one shouldn't he be happy his teachings are starting to manifest?
The fuck happened to "your brother, humble servant"all of a sudden??????
It absolutely is. A large ego is a result of some other deficit in ones life.
A person can be good and not have an ego. Two people can occupy a space and not feel threatened by one another.
This has been building for a minute and Jason hasn’t said anything. KS acknowledged the disconnect awhile ago. I belive the tipping point was the ‘Modern Black Women aren’t marriage material’ show. Jason had a similar show around the same time. Like I said, I think they are really working together.
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