{The Official 2021-22 NBA Thread} - Finals: Warriors vs Celtics…{4-2 advantage warriors } Dubs NBA champs, Curry MVP

can't say the same for the lakers though


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I’m sure that they tried but nothing came though. And do you know what the worst part was?

The Blazers didn’t want to trade Dame for Russ. :rolleyes2:
And the dead carcass of the blazers is right behind you in the standings lol
The crazy thing is you guys still have a chance
 
But your foot isn’t on anyones neck.

A post was made showing the combined number of points Lebron scored. A comment was made stating “Imagine if Lebron was a scorer”.

Highlighting the fact that he’s not known as a scorer and that his job is to facilitate the offense instead of only scoring.

You felt the need to tell us about Lebron’s lack of skill and how so many other players are more skilled than him etc…

In other words, your response to @Amajorfucup post didn’t make sense because it had nothing to do with his post. Telling us about Lebron’s lack of skill only shows how special of a player Lebron is to get to where he’s at with his limited skills.

He is a scorer, that is his best skill. He scores better than any other skill he has. He only averages 7 assists a game for his career.

Bottom line, he has no killer instinct and never been aggressive enough on offense. He reached about 75% of his full potential, because he was never coached up properly when young.

He had the talent and athleticism to easily to be the best player and scorer of all time, but he was too satisfied with getting a pedestrian 27 points, 7 assists, and 7 rebounds instead of maxing out.
 
They should have made a change at the deadline

No, plus there wasn't much that could be done

I know you don't care, but the long term needs to be considered

Russ is in his last year next year. He'll be easy to trade in the summer or at next years deadline...or you let him walk and you have money.
 
No, trade was going to help them win a title at this point, so you need to think long term

Russ makes 5 million more than Dame this year and next.

It would’ve made financial and basketball sense for the Lakers to make that trade. Also would’ve made the Lakers better for the future and with Dame who knows what could’ve happened?

But a bad trade for the Blazers.
 
Russ makes 5 million more than Dame this year and next.

It would’ve made financial and basketball sense for the Lakers to make that trade. Also would’ve made the Lakers better for the future and with Dame who knows what could’ve happened?

But a bad trade for the Blazers.

Blazers weren't trading Dame
 
He is a scorer, that is his best skill. He scores better than any other skill he has. He only averages 7 assists a game for his career.

Bottom line, he has no killer instinct and never been aggressive enough on offense. He reached about 75% of his full potential, because he was never coached up properly when young.

He had the talent and athleticism to easily to be the best player and scorer of all time, but he was too satisfied with getting a pedestrian 27 points, 7 assists, and 7 rebounds instead of maxing out.

Stop, he’s aggressive when he needs to be aggressive. He’s not like Jordan, Kobe, or KD. He’s Lebron.

And I’m not defending Lebron, I’m defending the saying of bullshit by you.

I will agree with you on the coaching part though. They should’ve fixed his leaning back on jumpers a long time ago.







LeBron James On Lacking A Killer Mentality: ‘There Are Different Ways Of Killing’
Ernesto Cova

LeBron James has always been a polarizing player. It seems like his greatness is often taken for granted because of his losing record in the NBA Finals, and most old-school fans and players think he lacks the competitiveness and killer mentality of some former greats.

That's nothing new, as James has had to deal with that burden since his very first days in the league. As a matter of fact, he even talked to ESPN's Chris Broussard back in 2013 to discuss his so-called lack of killer mentality, claiming there are different ways to kill:

"When people think about the killer instinct, they always think of MJ and Kobe. Do people underestimate your killer instinct? People say you have it but not like those two. Do you think you have it like they do?" Broussard asked.
"Ahh. I'll just put it this way, man. There are different ways to hunt. I watch the Discovery Channel all the time, and you look at all these animals in the wild. And they all hunt a different way to feed their families. They all kill a different way. Lions do it strategically -- two females will lead, and then everybody else will come in. Hyenas will just go for it.
There are different ways to kill, and I don't think people understand that. Everybody wants everybody to kill the same way. Everybody wants everybody to kill like MJ or kill like Kobe. Magic didn't kill the way they killed. Does that mean he didn't have a killer instinct? Kareem didn't either. But does that mean Kareem didn't have a killer instinct? The same with Bird. That doesn't mean you don't have a killer instinct.
Tim Duncan don't kill like Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant, but I've played against Tim Duncan twice in the Finals and I know for sure he's got a killer instinct. So there are different ways to kill. MJ had a killer instinct for sure. But if people really think that MJ didn't talk to nobody and didn't smile on the court, they're crazy. They're crazy. I've seen him. I was watching a clip the other day of him blocking Charles Barkley, and they're laughing about the play -- on the floor. Right now, if I block Kevin Durant on the floor, or I block Carmelo Anthony and we laugh about it? Ahh, I'm going to get killed [laughing]. I'm telling you. But there are different ways of killing," the King replied.
Do you think you'll change people's minds about that?

I hope. I hope. I hope people will see that there are different ways of winning. And I win by … I don't want to say doing it my way. I am doing it my way but not in a selfish way. I want to win by having fun and having a brotherhood around me where we all have the same goals -- and that's just going out and winning, man.
When I'm having fun, I'm loving the game, and that's what brings joy to me. [Leans back and smiles] Every now and then my look comes out, though -- like Game 6 in Boston [2012]. People say, Why don't he do that all the time? [laughs] Man, I don't even … first of all, I have no idea why that look even happened. Somebody took a great photo. The camera was right on time, and he happened to get me when I was a little bit tired and I looked up. Bam! Now, it's The Look [laughs]. It's the LeBron Look. The LeBron Face [laughs]. It's cool, though. It's cool. Don't think for one second, though, that I'm not zeroed in on what I need to get done to kill my prey.
Unlike Jordan, Bryant, or other former great scorers, James has always thrived as a playmaker. That's why he's trusted his teammates in clutch situations throughout his career. Nevertheless, it's normal to wonder why he'd pass on a good shot considering he's also one of the greatest players of all time. Those who came behind him would never pass on the chance to win the game by themselves.

Luckily for him, it seems like James has turned the page a bit on that narrative ever since and he started being more aggressive and taking more chances towards the following years of his career. Contrary to what his doubters may seem, he's got 5 buzzer-beaters in playoffs history, which is a league-best.

https://fadeawayworld.net/nba-media...mentality-there-are-different-ways-of-killing
 
Stop, he’s aggressive when he needs to be aggressive. He’s not like Jordan, Kobe, or KD. He’s Lebron.

And I’m not defending Lebron, I’m defending the saying of bullshit by you.

I will agree with you on the coaching part though. They should’ve fixed his leaning back on jumpers a long time ago.







LeBron James On Lacking A Killer Mentality: ‘There Are Different Ways Of Killing’
Ernesto Cova

LeBron James has always been a polarizing player. It seems like his greatness is often taken for granted because of his losing record in the NBA Finals, and most old-school fans and players think he lacks the competitiveness and killer mentality of some former greats.

That's nothing new, as James has had to deal with that burden since his very first days in the league. As a matter of fact, he even talked to ESPN's Chris Broussard back in 2013 to discuss his so-called lack of killer mentality, claiming there are different ways to kill:


Do you think you'll change people's minds about that?


Unlike Jordan, Bryant, or other former great scorers, James has always thrived as a playmaker. That's why he's trusted his teammates in clutch situations throughout his career. Nevertheless, it's normal to wonder why he'd pass on a good shot considering he's also one of the greatest players of all time. Those who came behind him would never pass on the chance to win the game by themselves.

Luckily for him, it seems like James has turned the page a bit on that narrative ever since and he started being more aggressive and taking more chances towards the following years of his career. Contrary to what his doubters may seem, he's got 5 buzzer-beaters in playoffs history, which is a league-best.

https://fadeawayworld.net/nba-media...mentality-there-are-different-ways-of-killing


He has 1 scoring title and 1 assist title in 19 seasons... And he never maxed out on defense. No League MVPs since 2013, its 2022.

He had the size and ability to win 10 scoring titles or more, and win at least 2 or 3 more championships if he maxed out and was coached.

He came knto the league with more potential than Jordan and Kobe. I am disapointed in Durant too, great player, but never maxed out his potential.

I watched them both since they were 15 and 16, biggest fans, are always the harshest critic.

I do the same shit to my closest friends and closest family, all criticism is not hatred.
 
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He has 1 scoring title in 19 seasons...

He had the size and ability to win 10 scoring titles or more, and win at least 2 or 3 more championships if he maxed out and was coached.

He came knto the league with more potential than Jordan and Kobe. I am disapointed in Durant too, great player, but never maxed out his potential.

I watched them both since they were 15 and 16, biggest fans, are always the harshest critic.

His goal wasn’t to be the scoring champ.

But I agree, coaches could’ve and should done more and done some things differently.
 
His goal wasn’t to be the scoring champ.

But I agree, coaches could’ve and should done more and done some things differently.

You just answered it right there. "his goal was not to be scoring champ"

Jordan wanted to be the best scorer, best defender, win All star game, win dunk contest, League MVP, Finals MVP, steals champ, and demoralize or put fear in every person on the court. He even worked hard to improve his 3 point shot at the end of his career. Lebron never did anything to improve his game, he was satisfied with 27 points, 7 assists, 7 rebounds, from earlier in his career to now, and just being above average and all around. Dean Smith and Jordan's older brother pushed Jordan to be a competitor, not just settle for being "all around".

Jordan was more of a competitor in every aspect of the game. He had KILLER INSTINCT like Brady. Brady wanted to win every single game, not be all around and be satisfied with longevity stats.

Players respect Lebron, but feared Jordan and Brady. There is a cut clear difference. No player ever outscored Jordan in a playoff series, and his rookie year with the Bulls is the only time he was not the scoring champ when playing a full season with the Bulls. Even as a rookie, he is only rookie in history to lead his team in every offensive category, he was only 6'6.



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You just answered it right there. "his goal was not to be scoring champ"

Jordan wanted to be the best scorer, best defender, win All star game, win dunk contest, League MVP, Finals MVP, steals champ, and demoralize or put fear in every person on the court. He even worked hard to improve his 3 point shot at the end of his career. Lebron never did anything to improve his game, he was satisfied with 27 points, 7 assists, 7 rebounds, from earlier in his career to now, and just being above average and all around. Dean Smith and Jordan's older brother pushed Jordan to be a competitor, not just settle for being "all around".

Jordan was more of a competitor in every aspect of the game. He had KILLER INSTINCT like Brady. Brady wanted to win every single game, not be all around and be satisfied with longevity stats.

Players respect Lebron, but feared Jordan and Brady. There is a cut clear difference. No player ever outscored Jordan in a playoff series, and his rookie year with the Bulls is the only time he was not the scoring champ when playing a full season with the Bulls. Even as a rookie, he is only rookie in history to lead his team in every offensive category, he was only 6'6.



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Stop comparing Lebron to MJ, two totally different players and was never part of this discussion.

The point of this discussion was that scoring wasn’t Lebron’s main focal point and health withstanding, he’ll be the NBA’s all time leading scorer.

That’s the point.

And you’re lying to yourself if you believed that teams didn’t fear Bron.
 

He is just so difficult

He makes it even when you try to defend him you sound stupid.

The ONE thing as a black people we should and need to do is this

Defend the fact he is not a liar

He is not a fake

He tries his best.

Because Aaron Rodgers thinks WE are beneath him, we are stupid, he LIED to us without apology, the media choose to coddle and protect him even when he SPECIFICALLY targeted Kyrie to shield himself.

So to me we gotta at least protect him on THAT.
 
Stop comparing Lebron to MJ, two totally different players and was never part of this discussion.

The point of this discussion was that scoring wasn’t Lebron’s main focal point and health withstanding, he’ll be the NBA’s all time leading scorer.

That’s the point.

And you’re lying to yourself if you believed that teams didn’t fear Bron.

Nobody fears Lebron, bruh, they respect him. He can only chase longevity records at this point, and scoring is the best aspect of his game because of his size and athleticism, not his moves, dribbling, or shooting skills. Outside of the bubble, he nor the Lakers are no serious threat. Go watch how Booker was clowning him and his squad in last year's playoffs. No fear shown.

Emmitt Smith is the all time leading rusher in yards and TDs, but he is not even a top 5 rusher. He played a LONG time, his yards per rush or yards per game are not that impressive. Same with Lebron in scoring, his is above average, but not even a top 5 SKILLED scorer, just like Karl Malone is top 3 in total points, but not even a top 10 SKILLED scorer, just played a long ass time.

Jordan and Wilt have 90% of the "averages per game" or "peak" scoring records, they are the BEST scorers of all time, easily. Lebron, Kareem, and Karl Malone are the most PRODUCTIVE scorers of all time because they played more seasons than 99% of all the players in history. They are great scorers though.

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Stop comparing Lebron to MJ, two totally different players and was never part of this discussion.

The point of this discussion was that scoring wasn’t Lebron’s main focal point and health withstanding, he’ll be the NBA’s all time leading scorer.

That’s the point.

And you’re lying to yourself if you believed that teams didn’t fear Bron.

^^^^

All facts.

Ask Toronto, Boston, etc

Even Reddick was one first take explaining this recently and not one legit player argued.
 
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