Green can post up and if they switch off with JR and Shump he going go feast on them... Put Thompson on him and he's too slow to keep up and will put pressure on him when driving the lane.. Bogut will have an easy time with mosgov
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Green can post up and if they switch off with JR and Shump he going go feast on them... Put Thompson on him and he's too slow to keep up and will put pressure on him when driving the lane.. Bogut will have an easy time with mosgov
That is a safe bet because the Cavs bench consist of Jr Smith, Dellededova and James Jones. The Cavs starters will have to play heavy minutes against a fast pace team of the warriors.
he can post up but neither of these teams is trying to go to the post. there is a difference. they both try to get to the paint and thrive off of open 3's but neither is going to post and both need transition buckets to get themselves going
It just so happens the warriors have 2 of the deadliest shooters in the game who can and do shoot it from anywhere at any situation.
True and Klay starting to heat up after having a shitty playoffs.. If them light skin niggas avg at least 40-50 a game it's a wrap
What I'm saying is Green don't mind banging in the post especially when they put smaller players on him
Barring Lebron getting hurt, I think Cleveland may end up pulling it out.
In 5,6 or 7?
Yup...I just posted a article about this
The NBA Rebirth of the postup game could be centered around playmaking 4's...
http://www.bgol.us/board/showthread.php?t=850444
U stay asking permission from other niggas
Yo fat ass don't need no help when it comes to yo pockets nigga
Either take the bet or stfu
Kobe and Mike didnt have the drive to go to 5 straight Finals, after 3 straight the either got bounced early or quit on their teams. Bill Russell and LeBron are much better leaders and it shows.
Just a question... Do you think the top two shooters from each team are even???
Klay & Curry vs JR & Uncle Drew
Me personally I think JR, Curry and Irving are the same type of shooters where they would bogey on you them pull up in your face...
Klay is more on the lines of a Kyle Korver Reggie Miller type...don't take this as me discrediting dude...
Klay, and Kyrie are even yea they can shoot the same type of 3 point shot and hit probably about the same clip or close to
J.R. smith is and always has been a streaky shooter.
And curry is better than them all because his shot is the quickest and he can shoot it from off the dribble with either hand anywhere on the court.
91 % from the left side 3 point line in the playoffs.
91%
18 for 20 on open shots.
He's just on another planet.
Numbers show this wasn't even kinda close
A statistical breakdown of the Cavaliers sweep against the Hawks in the Eastern Conference finals
CLEVELAND, Ohio – The Cleveland Cavaliers are heading to the NBA finals for the first time since 2007 after defeating the Atlanta Hawks, 118-88, in Game 4 to complete the sweep.
The Cavaliers dominated this series from start to finish, winning the four games by an average of 13.3 points.
Game 1: Cavaliers 97, Hawks 89
http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2015/05/cleveland_cavaliers_atlanta_ha_6.html
Game 2: Cavaliers 94, Hawks 82
http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2015/05/cleveland_cavaliers_atlanta_ha_9.html
Game 3: Cavaliers 114, Hawks 111
http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2015/05/lebron_james_cleveland_cavalie_43.html
Game 4: Cavaliers 118, Hawks 88
http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2015/05/lebron_james_cleveland_cavalie_44.html
Here are some statistics that helped the Cavaliers win the Eastern Conference finals against the Atlanta Hawks.
8: players that scored at least 10 points in a game
To win in the NBA playoffs, a team must have a balanced offensive scoring attack, and the Cavaliers had that.
The team was led by LeBron James and J.R. Smith, but got a lot of help from players like Iman Shumpert, Matthew Dellavedova and Tristan Thompson.
Defenses are going to put a majority of their focus on James, and guys have to knock down the open shot when they get it.
23: LeBron James
This is an easy one, but James was nothing short of spectacular in this series. He averaged 30.3 points, 14.7 rebounds and 9.3 assists against the Hawks, including his unforgettable performance in Game 3.
His on court presence was the most impressive thing about him, and he realized what he needed to do throughout the game. If he needed to go get a basket, he did it. If a teammate was open for a shot, he hit them. The numbers he put up are one thing, but just the presence on the court was something that stood out.
A big reason for the Cavaliers 3-point shooting was because of James finding the open guy for the easy jumper.
ESPN stats & info
26: 3-pointers by the Hawks
We will get to the Cavaliers 3-point shooting later, but the Hawks just weren't able to hit from the outside. The were able to only connect on 23.4 % of their attempts, and that percentage is shrunk to only 18.5% if you take out the Game 3 performance.
Obviously the injury to Kyle Korver definitely hurt the outside shooting, but the Hawks really struggled to get the looks they had during the regular season.
A big reason for that was the defensive pressure of Matthew Dellavedova and Iman Shumpert, who did a great job of applying pressure to the Hawks point guards.
44: rebounds by Tristan Thompson
There is no denying that LeBron James was the best player this entire series, but the play of Thompson in this series was equally as impressive .
Countless time in this series, Thompson got an offensive rebound or tipped the ball out to a teammate, giving the Cavaliers a second chance to score.
Thompson also made big plays on both ends of the court, averaging 11.8 points and 1.8 blocks.
A lot of people questioned what Tristan Thompson did this past off-season by turning down a big contract, but what Thompson did in this series and the entire playoffs is a huge reason why the Cavaliers are heading to the finals .
49: 3-pointers hit in the series by the Cavaliers
At the start of the conference finals, the four remaining teams were all in the top 5 in 3-pointer hit in the season.
However, it was the Cavaliers that showed the great 3-point shooting as they averaged 12.3 makes from deep. Even more impressive, the Cavaliers hit at least 10 in each of the four games.
It was a team effort from the 3-point line, as J.R. Smith , LeBron James , Iman Shumpert, James Jones and Matthew Dellavedova all hit at least five 3-pointers. J.R. Smith led the way with 16, with half of them coming in his Game 1 explosion.
The Cavaliers will be off until June 4, when they travel to either Golden State or Houston in Game 1 of the NBA finals.
A statistical breakdown of the Cavaliers sweep against the Hawks in the Eastern Conference finals
CLEVELAND, Ohio – The Cleveland Cavaliers are heading to the NBA finals for the first time since 2007 after defeating the Atlanta Hawks, 118-88, in Game 4 to complete the sweep.
The Cavaliers dominated this series from start to finish, winning the four games by an average of 13.3 points.
Game 1: Cavaliers 97, Hawks 89
http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2015/05/cleveland_cavaliers_atlanta_ha_6.html
Game 2: Cavaliers 94, Hawks 82
http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2015/05/cleveland_cavaliers_atlanta_ha_9.html
Game 3: Cavaliers 114, Hawks 111
http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2015/05/lebron_james_cleveland_cavalie_43.html
Game 4: Cavaliers 118, Hawks 88
http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2015/05/lebron_james_cleveland_cavalie_44.html
Here are some statistics that helped the Cavaliers win the Eastern Conference finals against the Atlanta Hawks.
8: players that scored at least 10 points in a game
To win in the NBA playoffs, a team must have a balanced offensive scoring attack, and the Cavaliers had that.
The team was led by LeBron James and J.R. Smith, but got a lot of help from players like Iman Shumpert, Matthew Dellavedova and Tristan Thompson.
Defenses are going to put a majority of their focus on James, and guys have to knock down the open shot when they get it.
23: LeBron James
This is an easy one, but James was nothing short of spectacular in this series. He averaged 30.3 points, 14.7 rebounds and 9.3 assists against the Hawks, including his unforgettable performance in Game 3.
His on court presence was the most impressive thing about him, and he realized what he needed to do throughout the game. If he needed to go get a basket, he did it. If a teammate was open for a shot, he hit them. The numbers he put up are one thing, but just the presence on the court was something that stood out.
A big reason for the Cavaliers 3-point shooting was because of James finding the open guy for the easy jumper.
ESPN stats & info
26: 3-pointers by the Hawks
We will get to the Cavaliers 3-point shooting later, but the Hawks just weren't able to hit from the outside. The were able to only connect on 23.4 % of their attempts, and that percentage is shrunk to only 18.5% if you take out the Game 3 performance.
Obviously the injury to Kyle Korver definitely hurt the outside shooting, but the Hawks really struggled to get the looks they had during the regular season.
A big reason for that was the defensive pressure of Matthew Dellavedova and Iman Shumpert, who did a great job of applying pressure to the Hawks point guards.
44: rebounds by Tristan Thompson
There is no denying that LeBron James was the best player this entire series, but the play of Thompson in this series was equally as impressive .
Countless time in this series, Thompson got an offensive rebound or tipped the ball out to a teammate, giving the Cavaliers a second chance to score.
Thompson also made big plays on both ends of the court, averaging 11.8 points and 1.8 blocks.
A lot of people questioned what Tristan Thompson did this past off-season by turning down a big contract, but what Thompson did in this series and the entire playoffs is a huge reason why the Cavaliers are heading to the finals .
49: 3-pointers hit in the series by the Cavaliers
At the start of the conference finals, the four remaining teams were all in the top 5 in 3-pointer hit in the season.
However, it was the Cavaliers that showed the great 3-point shooting as they averaged 12.3 makes from deep. Even more impressive, the Cavaliers hit at least 10 in each of the four games.
It was a team effort from the 3-point line, as J.R. Smith , LeBron James , Iman Shumpert, James Jones and Matthew Dellavedova all hit at least five 3-pointers. J.R. Smith led the way with 16, with half of them coming in his Game 1 explosion.
The Cavaliers will be off until June 4, when they travel to either Golden State or Houston in Game 1 of the NBA finals.
Gotcha not that I agree but it's all good...
(Game when everybody played)
Golden State Warriors vs Cleveland Cavaliers - Full Game
You think they're even?
Remember when I said just like that Heat-Thunder series?
I'm thinking Cleveland in 5
I feel the 3 of Kyrie, Curry and JR can shot the same type of shots...(dribble pull up, step back, drive pull-up(JR kinda look sloppy)
This don't have nothing to do with the release speed or %
Don't necessarily have to catch and shot, or a screen to get a good look...
While Klay is better suited for that...
Just like James Jones can be lethal at times but it's mainly just catch and shoot...not saying he can't hit pull-ups in your face but that's rare... He never look comfortable dribbling the ball then shooting.
I mean the % is the entire difference though lol
Josh Smith can dribble pull up and shoot a step back 3
So if the argument is they can all take the same types of shots with those 3 you named I agree 100%
If it's they'll make those shots at the same success rate, we don't agree.
My take is Curry and Thompson are better shooters but with LeBron, Kyrie and even Thompson requiring so muck attention in thevpain, Kyrie, JR and even Shumpert stand to have better shots and should shoot for a higher %.
You give JR way to much credit bruh and I mean way too much.. Them niggas ain't all world to require as vast amount of attention.. They can easily get locked up.. Matter fact put them on smash now that leaves Lebron and Kyrie for the scoring load..
Exactly...
GS dont need to help; just give LBJ different looks and make him shoot over the top; Hes not scoring 50 every game on GS; Limit everyone else; Make kyrie play defense which he doesnt do, and GS has the advantage; Thompson is only good for rebounds so just box him out; Mozgov isnt a threat at all; Cavs have no bench; GS is the better team in almost every category; GS in 6; Ill take bets!!
Its startin to sound and feel eerily like 2012 when folks said theres no way Inkosi could beat OKC and Durant.
I was hoping that GS would tank th his season due to the firing of Mark Jackson. But it looks like Kerr will get a ship in his first season. Whitey wins again[emoji19]
No its not; Matchup wise Miami could exploit consistently what OKC was doing; Miami is a much better team than Cleveland; Also Miami played extremely better on the defensive end; OKC strengths fit right into what Miami wanted to do; Only way you were beating that Miami team that year was inside, which OKC didnt do; Only idiots on espn and peope that dont watch the game thought OKC would walk over Miami; Basketball is a game of matchups thats it!!; In the NBA its easy for the most part to pick the winner in a 7 game series if one pays attention to the game..
Beat my brotha, all that shit might be true, but what you said happen already and the Warriors was blown out...granted GS mopped the Cavs ass also...
Will Lebron avg 35+ ummmmm probably not, I'm just trying to say we can talk about who gonna do what, who won't do want...but some of the shit we talking about happened when these teams played...
Will Curry be able to get off like normal probably so
IF Kyrie gets to be 100% would Curry lock him up, probably not...
It's not like Kerr could hide him on another player...
I'm kinda believing the advantage goes to GSW, Love out takes away that rebounding stretch 4 option.
Now you have a tradition old school lineup with double post bodies, who don't run high/low sets. I want to give GSW the edge, but Kerr don't mind going small with Green at the 4, which works but the Cavs money lineup is a small unit during crunch-time...
Irving/Della
Smith
Shum
James
Thompson
That matchup would be all about the coaches...
They teams are similar, in the sense they do what they do well...
Like shit it don't...so we're sitting around trying to come up with ways that the Warriors can best defend the Cavs, we finally come up with something...just to have someone post a clip of what we thought would work didn't work "ONCE"....
Cavs in 6.
Lebron has to know how epic this win would be. Fans will be talking about the time Lebron led a fucked up Cavs team to a chip for decades to come. The legend of this shit would only grow with time. This is why I expect Bron to ball out of his damn mind.
Supporting cast confidence through the roof.
And most of all, Brownturd picked GS to sweep.
Go Cavs!!!!
Lebron has to know how epic this win would be. Fans will be talking about the time Lebron led a fucked up Cavs team to a chip for decades to come. The legend of this shit would only grow with time. This is why I expect Bron to ball out of his damn mind.
Supporting cast confidence through the roof.
And most of all, Brownturd picked GS to sweep.
Go Cavs!!!!
Thats what I'm thinking! These CACs are losing their minds at work, they HATE LeBron with a passion. Dude was talking mad shit about GS winning in 5 no matter what, etc. I took him up on it too... Gonna roast his ass once I take his bread!
OKC was an almost completely Iso offensive team which played right into Miami's hand. Plus that Miami team was stacked
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Ah fuck it. I had a whole bunch of shit typed but I'm just going to sit back and watch these games.
Good luck to both teams.
Good luck to both teams.
Cavs in 6.
Lebron has to know how epic this win would be. Fans will be talking about the time Lebron led a fucked up Cavs team to a chip for decades to come. The legend of this shit would only grow with time. This is why I expect Bron to ball out of his damn mind.
Supporting cast confidence through the roof.
And most of all, Brownturd picked GS to sweep.
Go Cavs!!!!
He always had an idea, I'm sure. Winning that first chip in Miami had to enhance the feeling of winning one in Cleveland...shit it seemed he still loved that place, after the messy breakup.
You are ignoring one HUGE factor and that is the Cavs bench. Let's make this visual so that it can be easily understood
Cavs Starting lineup
Kyrie
Shump
Lebron
Thompson
Mozgov
The Cavs Bench
Jr Smith
James Jones
Dellededava
You think that is enough to hang with a deep an loaded Warriors team? We can project that the Cavs will be on pace for about 85 to 90 pts a game based on the remaining players available. This means they will need to hold the Warriors to under 90 pts to win.
Fatigue will be a serious issue for the Cavs and finding consistent scoring.
Remember when I said just like that Heat-Thunder series?
I'm thinking Cleveland in 5
WOW son
That's....Bold
What makes you predict this outcome?
I got the Cavs vs whoever
You can see how Lebron is playing
He knows this win will climb him right up that ladder even further
And that means something to him
He is still the best player in the world
And if need be they will put his big ass on Steph when it counts
You can see how Lebron is playing
He knows this win will climb him right up that ladder even further
And that means something to him
He is still the best player in the world
And if need be they will put his big ass on Steph when it counts
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