"The nae nae dance" have we discussed how gay this is?
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My 35+ year old Fam speak on this for me........
If you were dancing like this back in the day with your homies up at the play ground and your old man walked by and saw that, he would beat the breaks off you in front of everyone.
Hell if an Uncle or your Granddad saw you on some moist fuckery they would beat the brakes off you then walk you home for your folks to rinse and repeat.
Let's face it , this moist culture is a direct result of an OVER ABUNDANT generation of boys growing up with ZERO male role models and are easily influenced by the media (moist booty agenda) and their mothers.
All kids grow up emulating those raising them.
If you were dancing like this back in the day with your homies up at the play ground and your old man walked by and saw that, he would beat the breaks off you in front of everyone.
Hell if an Uncle or your Granddad saw you on some moist fuckery they would beat the brakes off you then walk you home for your folks to rinse and repeat.
Let's face it , this moist culture is a direct result of an OVER ABUNDANT generation of boys growing up with ZERO male role models and are easily influenced by the media (moist booty agenda) and their mothers.
All kids grow up emulating those raising them.
I think it is more than that. I think you have tasted a man, and vice versa...
But I still like debating you. You are witty, and crafty; someone always to
watch out with you, because there is always a method to words
wtf
All those dudes you named are gay or bi or whatever. And Michael didnt do any gay dances. He did sexual dances. That is the exact difference I'm talking about.
The most sexualized dance move MJ did was the Crotch Grab. Sexual not gay.
And Prince was androgynous or bi or whatever with his stuff since forever.
Sexual dances have been around since before Elvis. The gay stuff is on another level tho. Plenty dudes have been grinding, gyrating and thrusting in concert, on stage or at the club even. Aggressively sexual yes but clearly and plainly hetero.
And dudes Vogueing were either Bi, down low, in the closet or hopelessly clueless. When people are clueless they have no idea what the dances they are doing actually means. Clueless middle aged white dudes right now will Twerk in a heartbeat. Why? For the most part they are just plain clueless.
You are an idiot...Nzinga was her last nameyeah, this guy... I dunno. Even has a warrior queens name
He knows what I am talking about...Really dude?How in the hell did you fix your mind to say that?
you're correct, thats exactly what I'm saying.
We had straight up GAY artists who we rocked to in the 80s. And here we are, straight men in the 2000's NOT affected by that, and not gay.
So that tells me to not give a shit. Whoevers gonna be gay is gonna be gay, and it has never once affected my life, except that all those artists I named, gay or not, gave me something to jam to.
This era today can't possibly be more gay than the 80s. Relax yourselves.
And their friends also have no male role models.....
your first question...."If you were dancing like this with your friends..."
You know and I know that would never happen....cause your friends would be ready to beat the breaks off of you for trying to dance like that.....
The moist gay shit is being allowed by the peers.....that never happened when we were growing up....you could get killed for stuff like that....
but yeah...the peers had fathers and or uncles too....
that I truly din't know. I accept that history lesson. Who were all the men who let her lead them ? Were they gay?
......The KIDS weren t doing this shit with their friends though in the 80s.....
c'mon man....
Me too.
I actually came in this thread to comment how the dance didn't look much gayer than some of the dances in our day.But after watching these videos of the whole dance...
yeah they were. Niggas were doing the tootsie roll, and fucking the floor, and popping their asses. Football team dudes at pep rallies. It was so common to see dudes vogueing who weren't gay.
It was a joke to see a man imitate a woman. I personally didn't do it, but it most certainly happened.
You guys can do your revisionist, "we were so hard back in the day" routine if ya want. I was right there with you.
And just the fact that sexually ambiguous guys even sold records and had people pay to see them AT ALL says a lot about what we watched and purchased back then. There is NO Black artist out today anywhere near the level of blatant femininity we witnessed back then.
A black artist like MJ would NEVER get signed in todays culture. All that would be talked about is how gay he is. Yet, Michael Jackson and Prince are two of the best artists we've ever had. And Marvin Gaye admits to having done gay shit- Richard Pryor too. Little Richard. Luther. Freddie Jackson. Should I keep going?
They just didn't dance around in scarves or whatever sets off your alarm these days. Paul Mooneys gay ass gets posted on here all the time, and y'all think his word is law.
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I remember when rappers like King Sun had dance videos... Smh what happened to being a smooth dancer to impress the ladies? There's a difference btwn dancing smooth or fluid than dancing effeminate.
There is a difference tho.
Those are artists and musicians. Never had a problem with weird gay artists. Plenty of those down thru history.
Gay dances. Plenty of that down thru history.
Gay agenda being openly accepted and promulgated culturally has also happened historically but only in certain hedonistic cultures and instances.
Big difference. Gay folks and gay activities aint going nowhere. This current gay agenda is sweeping and encroaching into the mainstream culture rather than remaining a sub culture for those who embrace the lifestyle.
And we are talking hip hop now. That was supposed to be the last and final frontier for this stuff when it comes to hyper over exaggerated masculinity.
That's why I shake my head at these kids.
you sound crazy
hiphop didn't even exist til the 80s anyway. And it damn sure wasn't created to be the "final frontier..." or whatever you're yapping about.
If there ever was a gay agenda- it was all in the 80s. Most likely YOUR era. MY era.
Somehow we made it through. Relax.
If anything was ever perpetuating gay culture in the black community, it would be JAIL CULTURE, which hiphop LOVES to talk about.
And thats where the most outwardly masculine dudes, do the exact opposite in captivity. Shows like OZ are way more gay than Boy George ever was.
Most of the dances out right now are about dancing smooth or fluid, or BEHIND A GIRL. This Nae Nae is the only one I know of like this right now.
If you watch Chris Brown, Justin Timberlake, Omarion, Trae Songs, any of the most popular R&B guys out right now, their main interest is GIRLS. Relax
but lets not forget to mention that some of these guys in this pic probably went to Morehouse, and are probably GAY
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kwazdog
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Thanks for the reminder!
it's been a rough week! First the boy pussy song dropped, then the gay dude from Saint Louis, now this? Uggggh. Lol
Thanks for the reminder!
can't forget that August whatsisname kid. Young broads go nuts over him.
Them mindless behavior kids- I gotta keep my nieces away from them.
If dudes wanna focus on whats gay out there, ya gotta wonder about em.
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kwazdog
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but lets not forget to mention that some of these guys in this pic probably went to Morehouse, and are probably GAY
Ole suited and booted ass "on the grid" ass negroes. Suits don't impress me, for me its ways and actions, actions and ways.
you sound crazy
hiphop didn't even exist til the 80s anyway. And it damn sure wasn't created to be the "final frontier..." or whatever you're yapping about.
If there ever was a gay agenda- it was all in the 80s. Most likely YOUR era. MY era.
Somehow we made it through. Relax.
If anything was ever perpetuating gay culture in the black community, it would be JAIL CULTURE, which hiphop LOVES to talk about.
And thats where the most outwardly masculine dudes, do the exact opposite in captivity. Shows like OZ are way more gay than Boy George ever was.
The jail culture is the down low agenda. 80s musicians made some dope music. We jammed to the dope jams from those same musicians. No gay agenda.
You keep referring to gay artists in the past. They have been around for decades and decades. Big difference between a musicians personal life and the work he performed or art he provides.
No gay agenda. Period.
There has always always been a gay culture. There have been artists like Cher or Bette Midler or even some underground disco artists who targeted that culture. That is a SUB culture. Gayness is ancient.
The difference is how it is being pushed onto mainstream straight culture. I grew up in the 80s. I was there during disco which came from the gay community but went mainstream.
There is a difference between the two cultures. The sub culture is pushing a gay agenda into mainstream life.
But I get it. According to you everything is gravy. There IS no gay agenda. There IS no gay mafia. There IS no push into the mainstream of gay acceptance. There IS no forced recognition of the gay lifestyle.
Everything was all gay back in the 80s. We all KNOWINGLY did gay dances at the clubs because of Michael Jackson, Prince, Freddy Mercury and The Village People.
Okay. I get it now.
The jail culture is the down low agenda. 80s musicians made some dope music. We jammed to the dope jams from those same musicians. No gay agenda.
You keep referring to gay artists in the past. They have been around for decades and decades. Big difference between a musicians personal life and the work he performed or art he provides.
No gay agenda. Period.
There has always always been a gay culture. There have been artists like Cher or Bette Midler or even some underground disco artists who targeted that culture. That is a SUB culture. Gayness is ancient.
The difference is how it is being pushed onto mainstream straight culture. I grew up in the 80s. I was there during disco which came from the gay community but went mainstream.
There is a difference between the two cultures. The sub culture is pushing a gay agenda into mainstream life.
But I get it. According to you everything is gravy. There IS no gay agenda. There IS no gay mafia. There IS no push into the mainstream of gay acceptance. There IS no forced recognition of the gay lifestyle.
Everything was all gay back in the 80s. We all KNOWINGLY did gay dances at the clubs because of Michael Jackson, Prince, Freddy Mercury and The Village People.
Okay. I get it now.
I want to understand what you're saying here. I really do.
Thanks for mentioning the Village people by the way. I forgot about them. There were more gay music groups and sexually ambiguous artists back then than we can ever have these days. The only gay agenda there has ever been is the agenda to get people to not beat them to a pulp on the street just for being themselves.
If seeing someone gay makes you think it can turn someone who isn't gay into being gay... I have to question if they weren't in the first place.
Gay bashing was always wrong. People go overboard with their hate. Let gay people live. Anyone beating or bashing gays should be punished.
As far as turning people gay the biggest problem with that would be with young people or specifically children.
But the modern gay agenda goes far beyond stomping out gay bashing.
Gay musicians today may not be as open or prevalent possibly because the industry has changed so much. There could be a host of reasons as to why there are not as many openly gay musicians out today.
But that has nothing to do with the gay agenda of today. The prevalence of gay musicians in the past had little to no bearing or influence in pushing a gay agenda anywhere close to the way it is being pushed now.
That difference is pretty clear and distinct. There are no blurred or gray lines to confuse, muddy up or cloud the issue. Perhaps your limited definition or interpretation of what the gay agenda actually is and the size and effect of it's scope and influence or our differences in viewpoint may be confusing to you or hard to understand.
To me it's as clear as day.
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