The Media Bias Against Bush?

tian, the hypocrisy is obvious, especially from the people that think the job of the washington post is to point out inaccuracies in the bush press releases, which is all good, but where are the reports when they confirm that something good mentioned in the memo was true?

if they are just trying to be fair and go down the list of bullet points then they should report on the ones that are totally true as well as the ones that are totally false.

report on whats true and whats false. reporting on one doesnt automatically imply the other. especially when it comes to double talking politicians.

but in the end, just like most people here concede, its all about who you ask. it really is telling that people often(not just in this thread) equate rush limbaugh and hannity with news. people want opinion in their news because in a way people just want validation for their own thought process. they dont want the news telling them their initial opinion was wrong. and unfortunately the news is very willing to lazily just give the people what they want because they just want to make money.
 
Greed said:
tian, the hypocrisy is obvious, especially from the people that think the job of the washington post is to point out inaccuracies in the bush press releases, which is all good, but where are the reports when they confirm that something good mentioned in the memo was true?

if they are just trying to be fair and go down the list of bullet points then they should report on the ones that are totally true as well as the ones that are totally false.

report on whats true and whats false. reporting on one doesnt automatically imply the other. especially when it comes to double talking politicians.

but in the end, just like most people here concede, its all about who you ask. it really is telling that people often(not just in this thread) equate rush limbaugh and hannity with news. people want opinion in their news because in a way people just want validation for their own thought process. they dont want the news telling them their initial opinion was wrong. and unfortunately the news is very willing to lazily just give the people what they want because they just want to make money.
If the argument is that the media in general does a poor job, I agree. If the argument is "Bush as victim of a left wing smear campaign" I have to categorize that under bullshit. If they treated this man any more gently, they'd have to bust out the baby wipes and blot his ass dry. Take a look at some of the stories that have broken that never even made it to the mainstream media or, once they did make it, were glossed over or softballed. The media in general sucks, but I'm not shedding any tears for Dubya's mistreatment quite yet.
 
QueEx said:
Fine tian, I can't argue against what you say. But I know that solid newsreporting broke open abuse and Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo - not the government and its lapdogs; QueEx

Actually Que, factions within the Pentagon leaked Abu Ghraib to the press, and followed it up by providing the initial photos, against the wishes of the White House. When Gen. Taguba(sic) went to Iraq to conduct his investigation, (months before the initial leak) he was very thorough in collecting all of the evidence of abuse \ torture. If he was one of Rumsfeld's boys the media probably wouldn't have known of the abuse. Also note that after about a month(less), the media reporting was almost dismissive of the events, and virtually ignored that the rest of the world's media was treating Abu Ghraib the way our media had responded to the Lewinski scandal.

As for Guantanamo... just like with the 2000 Florida election "irregularities" the British media dug deeper and reported, while the American media went out of their way to bend over for Bush. (note: the mild release of the FBI report on Guantanamo, and almost no reporting of the accounts given by British citizens released from Guantanamo after being imprisoned there for over a year.
 
Zero said:
If the argument is that the media in general does a poor job, I agree. If the argument is "Bush as victim of a left wing smear campaign" I have to categorize that under bullshit....

...The media in general sucks, but I'm not shedding any tears for Dubya's mistreatment quite yet.
the are one in the same.

if you believe the media should be above partisianship, then you can't purposely turn a blind eye when they show bias just because its a politician you dont like.

i thought this thread was about principle not bush43. i'm offended when a national newspaper holds a story for months so they can time the release to influence the election. i'm offended when a national anchorman endorses false documents because he doesnt like a candidate. the NEWS shouldnt be trying to frame a guilty man. it really is the height of vanity for these groups to think it's there place to influence anything.
 
<font size="6"><center>Rise of the 'patriotic journalist'</font size></center>

By Robert Parry
Re-printed in the Asia Times
November 19, 2005

Editor's note
September 11, 2001 and subsequent events threw into sharp focus the shortcomings of the media in the United States. In fact, contrary to popular belief, the media had been been in a steep decline for decades prior to the terrorist attacks, as veteran US journalist Robert Parry documents in the article below.


The apex for the "skeptical journalists" came in the mid-1970s when the press followed up exposure of Richard Nixon's Watergate scandal and disclosure of the Vietnam War's Pentagon Papers with revelations of Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) abuses, such as illegal spying on Americans and helping Chile's army oust an elected government.

There were reasons for this new press aggressiveness. After some 57,000 US soldiers had died in Vietnam during a long war

fought for murky reasons, many reporters no longer gave the government the benefit of the doubt.

The press corps' new rallying cry was the public's right to know, even when the wrongdoing occurred in the secretive world of national security.

But this journalistic skepticism represented an affront to government officials who had long enjoyed a relatively free hand in the conduct of foreign policy. The Wise Men and the Old Boys - the stewards of the post-World War II era - now faced a harder time lining up public consensus behind any action.

This national security elite, including then-CIA director George H W Bush, viewed the post-Vietnam journalism as a threat to America's ability to strike at its perceived enemies around the world.

Yet, it was from these ruins of distrust - the rubble of suspicion left behind by Watergate and Vietnam - that the conservative-leaning national security elite began its climb back, eventually coming full circle, gaining effective control of what a more "patriotic" press would tell the people, before stumbling into another disastrous war in Iraq.

Pike report
One early turning point in the switch from "skeptical" journalism to "patriotic" journalism occurred in 1976 with the blocking of Otis Pike's congressional report on CIA misdeeds. CIA director Bush had lobbied behind the scenes to convince Congress that suppressing the report was important for national security.

But CBS news correspondent Daniel Schorr got hold of the full document and decided that he couldn't join in keeping the facts from the public. He leaked the report to the Village Voice – and was fired by CBS amid charges of reckless journalism.

"The media's shift in attention from the report's charges to their premature disclosure was skillfully encouraged by the executive branch," wrote Kathryn Olmstead in her book on the media battles of the 1970s, Challenging the Secret Government.

"[Mitchell] Rogovin, the CIA's counsel, later admitted that the executive branch's 'concern' over the report's damage to national security was less than genuine," Olmstead wrote. But the Schorr case had laid down an important marker.

The counterattack against the "skeptical journalists" had begun.

In the late 1970s, conservative leaders began a concerted drive to finance a media infrastructure of their own along with attack groups that would target mainstream reporters who were viewed as too liberal or insufficiently patriotic.

Nixon's former treasury secretary, Bill Simon, took the lead. Simon, who headed the conservative Olin Foundation, rallied like-minded foundations - associated with Lynde and Harry Bradley, Smith Richardson, the Scaife family and the Coors family - to invest their resources in advancing the conservative cause.

Money went to fund conservative magazines taking the fight to the liberals and to finance attack groups, like Accuracy in Media, that hammered away at the supposed "liberal bias" of the national news media.

Reagan-Bush years
This strategy gained momentum in the early 1980s with the arrival of Ronald Reagan's presidency.

Spearheaded by intellectual policymakers now known as the neo-conservatives, the government developed a sophisticated approach - described internally as "perception management" - that included targeting journalists who wouldn't fall into line.

So, when New York Times correspondent Raymond Bonner reported from El Salvador about right-wing death squads, his accounts were criticized and his patriotism challenged. Bonner then infuriated the White House in early 1982 when he disclosed a massacre by the US-backed Salvadoran army around the town of El Mozote. The story appeared just as Reagan was praising the army's human-rights progress.

Like other journalists who were viewed as overly critical of Reagan's foreign policy, Bonner faced both public attacks on his reputation and private lobbying of his editors, seeking his removal. Bonner soon found his career cut short. After being pulled out of Central America, he resigned from the Times.

Bonner's ouster was another powerful message to the national news media about the fate that awaited reporters who challenged Reagan's White House. (Years later, after a forensic investigation confirmed the El Mozote massacre, the Times rehired Bonner.)

Though conservative activists routinely bemoaned what they called the "liberal media" at the big newspapers and TV networks, the Reagan administration actually found many willing collaborators at senior levels of US news organizations.

At the New York Times, executive editor Abe Rosenthal followed a generally neo-conservative line of intense anticommunism and strong support for Israel. Under new owner Martin Peretz, the supposedly leftist New Republic slid into a similar set of positions, including enthusiastic backing for the Nicaraguan Contra rebels.

Where I worked at the Associated Press, its general manager, Keith Fuller, the company's top executive, was considered a staunch supporter of Reagan's foreign policy and a fierce critic of recent social change. In 1982, Fuller gave a speech condemning the 1960s and praising Reagan's election.

"As we look back on the turbulent Sixties, we shudder with the memory of a time that seemed to tear at the very sinews of this country," Fuller said during a speech in Worcester, adding that Reagan's election a year earlier had represented a nation crying "enough" ...

  • We don't believe that the union of Adam and Bruce is really the same as Adam and Eve in the eyes of Creation. We don't believe that people should cash welfare checks and spend them on booze and narcotics. We don't really believe that a simple prayer or a pledge of allegiance is against the national interest in the classroom. We're sick of your social engineering. We're fed up with your tolerance of crime, drugs and pornography. But most of all, we're sick of your self-perpetuating, burdening bureaucracy weighing ever more heavily on our backs.

Fuller's sentiments were common in the executive suites of major news organizations, where Reagan's reassertion of an aggressive US foreign policy mostly was welcomed. Working journalists who didn't sense the change in the air were headed for danger.

By the time of Reagan's landslide reelection in 1984, the conservatives had come up with catchy slogans for any journalist or politician who still criticized excesses in US foreign policy. They were known as the "blame America firsters" or - in the case of the Nicaragua conflict - "Sandinista sympathizers".

The practical effect of these slurs on the patriotism of journalists was to discourage skeptical reporting on Reagan's foreign policy and to give the administration a freer hand for conducting operations in Central America and the Middle East outside public view.

Gradually, a new generation of journalists began to fill key reporting jobs, bringing with them an understanding that too much skepticism on national security issues could be hazardous to one's career.

Intuitively, these reporters knew there was little or no upside to breaking even important stories that made Reagan's foreign policy look bad. That would just make you a target of the expanding conservative attack machine. You would be "controversialized", another term that Reagan operatives used to describe their anti-reporter strategies.

Iran-Contra
Often I am asked why it took so long for the US news media to uncover the secret operations that later became known as the Iran-Contra affair, clandestine arms sales to the Islamic fundamentalist government of Iran with some of the profits - and other secret funds - funneled into the Contra war against Nicaragua's Sandinista government.

Though the AP was not known as a leading investigative news organization - and my superiors weren't eager supporters - we were able to get ahead on the story in 1984, 1985 and 1986 because the New York Times, the Washington Post and other top news outlets mostly looked the other way.

It took two external events - the shooting down of a supply plane over Nicaragua in October 1986 and the disclosure of the Iran initiative by a Lebanese newspaper in November 1986 - to bring the scandal into focus.

In late 1986 and early 1987 there was a flurry of Iran-Contra coverage, but the Reagan administration largely succeeded in protecting top officials, including Reagan and George H W Bush.

The growing conservative news media, led by Reverend Sun Myung Moon's Washington Times, lashed out at journalists and government investigators who dared push the edges of the envelope or closed in on Reagan and Bush.

But resistance to the Iran-Contra scandal also penetrated mainstream news outlets. At Newsweek, where I went to work in early 1987, editor Maynard Parker was hostile to the possibility that Reagan might be implicated.

During one Newsweek dinner/interview with retired General Brent Scowcroft and then-Representative Dick Cheney, Parker expressed support for the notion that Reagan's role should be protected, even if that required perjury. "Sometimes you have to do what's good the country," Parker said.

When Iran-Contra conspirator Oliver North went on trial in 1989, Parker and other news executives ordered that Newsweek's Washington bureau not even cover the trial, presumably because Parker just wanted the scandal to go away.

(When the North trial became a major story anyway, I was left scrambling to arrange daily transcripts so we could keep abreast of the trial's developments. Because of these and other differences over the Iran-Contra scandal, I left Newsweek in 1990.)

Iran-Contra special prosecutor, Lawrence Walsh, a Republican, also encountered press hostility when his investigation finally broke through the White House cover-up in 1991. Moon's Washington Times routinely lambasted Walsh and his staff over minor issues, such as the elderly Walsh flying first class on airplanes or ordering room-service meals.

But the attacks on Walsh were not coming only from the conservative news media. Toward the end of 12 years of Republican rule, mainstream journalists also realized their careers were far better served by staying on the good side of the Reagan-Bush crowd.

So, when George H W Bush sabotaged Walsh's probe by issuing six Iran-Contra pardons on Christmas Eve 1992, prominent journalists praised Bush's actions. They brushed aside Walsh's complaint that the move was the final act in a long-running cover-up that protected a secret history of criminal behavior and Bush's personal role.

"Liberal" Washington Post columnist Richard Cohen spoke for many of his colleagues when he defended Bush's fatal blow against the Iran-Contra investigation. Cohen especially liked Bush's pardon of former defense secretary Caspar Weinberger, who had been indicted for obstruction of justice but was popular around Washington.

In a December 30, 1992, column, Cohen said his view was colored by how impressed he was when he would see Weinberger in the Georgetown Safeway store, pushing his own shopping cart. "Based on my Safeway encounters, I came to think of Weinberger as a basic sort of guy, candid and no nonsense - which is the way much of official Washington saw him," Cohen wrote. "Cap, my Safeway buddy, walks, and that's all right with me."

For fighting too hard for the truth, Walsh drew derision as a kind of Captain Ahab obsessively pursuing the White Whale. Writer Marjorie Williams delivered this damning judgment against Walsh in a Washington Post magazine article, which read:

  • In the utilitarian political universe of Washington, consistency like Walsh's is distinctly suspect. It began to seem ... rigid of him to care so much. So un-Washington. Hence the gathering critique of his efforts as vindictive, extreme. Ideological. ... But the truth is that when Walsh finally goes home, he will leave a perceived loser.
By the time the Reagan-Bush era ended in January 1993, the era of the "skeptical journalist" was dead, at least on issues of national security.

The Webb case
Even years later, when historical facts surfaced suggesting that serious abuses had been missed around the Iran-Contra affair, mainstream news outlets took the lead in rallying to the Reagan-Bush defense.

When a controversy over Contra-drug trafficking reemerged in 1996, the Washington Post, the New York Times and the Los Angeles Times went on the attack - against Gary Webb, the reporter who revived interest in the scandal. Even admissions of guilt by the CIA's inspector general in 1998 didn't shake the largely dismissive treatment of the issue by the major newspapers.

(For Webb's courageous reporting, he was pushed out of his job at the San Jose Mercury News, his career was ruined, his marriage collapsed and - in December 2004 - he killed himself with his father's revolver.)

When Republican rule was restored in 2001 with George W Bush's controversial "victory", major news executives and many rank-and-file journalists understood that their careers could best be protected by wrapping themselves in the old red-white-and-blue. "Patriotic" journalism was in; "skeptical" journalism was definitely out.

That tendency deepened even more after the September 11, 2001 terror attacks as many journalists took to wearing American flag lapels and avoided critical reporting about Bush's sometimes shaky handling of the crisis.

For instance, Bush's seven-minute freeze in a second-grade classroom - after being told "the nation is under attack" - was hidden from the public, even though it was filmed and witnessed by White House pool reporters. (Millions of Americans were shocked when they finally saw the footage two years later in Michael Moore's Fahrenheit 9/11.)

In November 2001, to avoid other questions about Bush's legitimacy, the results of a media recount of the Florida vote were misrepresented to obscure the finding that Al Gore would have carried the state - and thus the White House - if all legally cast votes were counted.

Iraq War
In 2002, as Bush shifted focus from Osama bin Laden and Afghanistan to Saddam Hussein and Iraq, the "patriotic" journalists moved with him.

Some of the few remaining "skeptical" media personalities were silenced, such as MSNBC's host Phil Donahue, whose show was canceled because he invited on too many war opponents.

In most newspapers, the occasional critical articles were buried deep inside, while credulous stories accepting the administration's claims about Iraq's alleged weapons of mass destruction were bannered on page one.

New York Times reporter Judith Miller was in her element as she tapped into her friendly administration sources to produce weapons of mass destruction (WMD)stories, like the one about how Iraq's purchase of aluminum tubes was proof that it was building a nuclear bomb. The article gave rise to the White House warning that Americans couldn't risk the "smoking gun" on Iraq's WMD being "a mushroom cloud".

In February 2003, when then secretary of state Colin Powell made his United Nations speech accusing Iraq of possessing WMD stockpiles, the national news media swooned at his feet. The Washington Post's op-ed page was filled with glowing tributes to his supposedly air-tight case, which would later be exposed as a mix of exaggerations and outright lies.

The rout of "skeptical" journalism was so complete - driven to the fringes of the Internet and to a few brave souls in Knight-Ridder's Washington bureau - that the "patriotic" reporters often saw no problem casting aside even the pretense of objectivity.

In the rush to war, news organizations joined in ridiculing the French and other longtime allies who urged caution. Those countries became the "axis of weasels" and cable TV devoted hours of coverage to diners that renamed "French fries" as "Freedom fries".

Once the invasion began, the coverage on MSNBC, CNN and the major networks was barely discernable from the patriotic fervor on Fox. Like Fox News, MSNBC produced promotional segments, packaging heroic footage of American soldiers, often surrounded by thankful Iraqis and underscored with stirring music.

"Embedded" reporters often behaved like excited advocates for the American side of the war. But objectivity also was missing back at the studios where anchors voiced outrage about Geneva Convention violations when Iraqi TV aired pictures of captured American soldiers, but the US media saw nothing wrong with broadcasting images of captured Iraqis.

As Judith Miller would later remark unabashedly, she saw her beat as "what I've always covered - threats to our country". Referring to her time "embedded" with a US military unit searching for WMD, she claimed that she had received a government "security clearance".

While the 57-year-old Miller may be an extreme case of mixing patriotism and journalism, she is far from alone as a member of her generation who absorbed the lessons of the 1980s, that skeptical journalism on national security issues was a fast way to put yourself in the unemployment line.

Only gradually, over the past two years as Iraq's WMD never materialized but a stubborn insurgency did, the bloody consequences of "patriotic" journalism have begun to dawn on the American people. By not asking tough questions, journalists contributed to a mess that has now cost the lives of nearly 2,000 US soldiers and tens of thousands of Iraqis.

Retired Army Lieutenant General William Odom, a top military intelligence official under Reagan, has predicted that the Iraq invasion "will turn out to be the greatest strategic disaster in US history".

Plame case
At the core of this disaster were the cozy relationships between the "patriotic" journalists and their sources.

In her October 16 account of her interviews with Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff, I Lewis "Scooter" Libby, Miller gave the public an inadvertent look into that closed world of shared secrets and mutual trust.

Libby talked with Miller in two face-to-face meetings and one phone call in 2003, as the Bush administration tried to beat back post-invasion questions about how the president made his case for war, according to Miller's story.

As Miller agreed to let Libby hide behind a misleading identification as a "former Hill staffer", Libby unleashed a harsh attack on one whistleblower, former ambassador Joseph Wilson, who was challenging Bush's claims that Iraq had sought enriched uranium from the African nation of Niger.

The Miller/Libby interviews included Libby's references to Wilson's wife, Valerie Plame, who was an undercover CIA officer working on proliferation issues.

On July 14, 2003, right-wing columnist Robert Novak, claiming to have been briefed by two administration officials, outed Plame in a column that denigrated Wilson with the suggestion that Plame may have arranged the trip to Niger for her husband.

Eventually, this outing of a covert CIA agent prompted a criminal investigation headed by special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald, who is examining a possible administration conspiracy to punish Wilson for his criticism. When Miller refused to testify about her meetings with Libby, Fitzgerald had her jailed for 85 days.

Miller finally relented after Libby encouraged her to do so. "Out West, where you vacation, the aspens will already be turning," Libby wrote in a folksy letter. "They turn in clusters because their roots are connected."

While the Plame case has become a major embarrassment for the Bush administration - and now for the New York Times - it has not stopped many of Miller's colleagues from continuing their old roles as "patriotic" journalists opposing the disclosure of too many secrets to the American people.

For instance, Washington Post columnist Richard Cohen - who hailed George H W Bush's pardons that destroyed the Iran-Contra investigation in 1992 - adopted a similar stance against Fitzgerald's investigation.

"The best thing Patrick Fitzgerald could do for his country is get out of Washington, return to Chicago and prosecute some real criminals," Cohen wrote in a column entitled "Let This Leak Go".

"As it is, all he has done so far is send Judith Miller of the New York Times to jail and repeatedly haul this or that administration high official before a grand jury, investigating a crime that probably wasn't one in the first place but that now, as is often the case, might have metastasized into some sort of cover-up - but again, of nothing much," Cohen wrote. "Go home, Pat."

If Fitzgerald does as Cohen wishes and closes down the investigation without indictments, the result could well be the continuation of the status quo in Washington. The Bush administration would get to keep control of the secrets and reward friendly "patriotic" journalists with selective leaks - and protected careers.

It is that cozy status quo that is now endangered by the Plame case. But the stakes of the case are even bigger than that, going to the future of American democracy and to two questions in particular:

Will journalists return to the standard of an earlier time when disclosing important facts to the electorate was the goal, rather than Cohen's notion of putting the comfortable relationships between Washington journalists and government officials first?

Put differently, will journalists decide that confronting the powerful with tough questions is the true patriotic test of a journalist?


Robert Parry broke many of the Iran-Contra stories in the 1980s for the Associated Press and Newsweek. His latest book, Secrecy & Privilege: Rise of the Bush Dynasty from Watergate to Iraq, can be ordered at secrecyandprivilege.com. It's also available at Amazon.com, as is his 1999 book, Lost History: Contras, Cocaine, the Press & 'Project Truth.'

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tian said:
True, true, true!

There is a situation, though. Take Iraq, for instance. Many soldiers return to America telling people that they are seeing a biased media first hand. In other words, they only report on negative stories, and not positive ones. It's like the news agencies has an agenda.

As a matter of fact, many do. Take Philip Bennett, Managing Editor of the Washington Post. When asked about how the American mainstream media plays in foreign policy, he says that "the role of the Washington Post is to hold the government accountable for decisions made by it". He goes on to say that the in the case of the correspondent in Baghdad is "to tell their readers what the Bush administration is trying to hide."

So, he's not really interested in the "feel-good" stories in Iraq, but rather the inconsistencies of the Bush administration's claims. Hence, there's a bias, regardless as to their claims of "Accurate and independent reporting."

tian

The News Media's job is to hold the government accountable for their decisions, that's not a bias, that's their job. Every government has something to hide, and journalists have to report it to the public. The guy is right.
 
US media too polarized on Iraq news: panel

US media too polarized on Iraq news: panel
By Claudia Parsons
Thu Apr 6, 8:07 AM ET

U.S. media coverage of Iraq is too polarized between "good news" and "bad news" and all sides are missing out on a complete picture, participants in a panel discussion organized by Reuters said on Wednesday.

That was one of the few points of agreement between journalists, a professional blogger and a U.S. military spokesman gathered in New York to discuss media in Iraq.

"If you write a 'good news' story from Iraq you are immediately identified as an apologist for the administration ... and if you write something critical then you're in the other camp," said Roger Cohen, a columnist for the International Herald Tribune who was recently in Iraq.

Cohen said both traditional U.S. media and Internet journals, or blogs, tended to fall into the trap of following a certain line. "Most of the time you read the first paragraph, you look at the byline and you know exactly where it's going."

"Everybody goes to the blog they like to reinforce the view that they already have," he said. "Despite the good and bad news stories, very few people change positions."

Lt. Col. Steven Boylan, who returned to the United States in December after 16 months in Iraq as chief spokesman for the U.S. military, said he found there was less coverage of Iraq in the U.S. media on his return than he expected.

"I was of the opinion that there wasn't enough good news coming out of Iraq when I first got there," he said. "I came to realize it really isn't the issue of good news versus bad news, because that's very opinion-based.

"It's that the complete story is not being told."

Bush administration officials have increasingly criticized the media for focusing too much on Iraq's daily violence and ethnic strife rather than on what they say are positive stories, such as relative stability in parts of the country.

VIETNAM SCRIPT

James Taranto, editor of OpinionJournal.com, which used to feature a link to a blog called Good News From Iraq, said the problem was most U.S. reporters were expecting the Iraq war to follow a script from the Vietnam era, where U.S. troops get bogged down, the war fails and the public is outraged.

Ghaith Abdul-Ahad, an Iraqi photojournalist, said it was wrong to say journalists were ignoring good news.

"It's a civil war, people are getting killed every single day, every hour ... everywhere in Iraq," he said. "It's a civil war and we're still shying away from the word civil war."

Zaki Chehab, political editor of London-based Arab newspaper Al Hayat, said security had deteriorated so much in the past year that it was no longer possible for Arab or Iraqi journalists to travel safely outside Baghdad.

Reuters Baghdad Bureau Chief Alastair Macdonald said the agency's about 70 Iraqi staff in some 18 cities around the country were finding it increasingly difficult to work because of sectarian tensions, to the extent that journalists had been forced to leave towns after receiving death threats.

"We have a lot of people very worried about exposing themselves as journalists," Macdonald said, adding that writing about reconstruction was difficult when security was so bad.

"We're looking for those stories from our reporters around the country but they're also giving us the message that they're finding their job increasingly difficult," he said.

According to the Committee to Protect Journalists, at least 67 journalists have been killed in Iraq since the U.S.-led invasion in early 2003 and several panelists noted that recent months had seen an increase in assassinations of reporters.

"There's a very sophisticated campaign to instill fear in journalists, Western and non-Western," Cohen said.

Chehab said Iraqi journalists often work secretly, refusing to be identified for fear of being suspected of collaboration.

Abdul-Ahad said a Pentagon program that paid Iraqi news organizations to publish positive stories had made life even more difficult for Iraqi journalists.

"How do you expect decent Iraqi journalists to go into the streets and write a positive story? Everyone would be pointing at them saying you've been paid by the Americans," he said.

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This MuthabukkaBush on blast! :lol:
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And are we to assume that this was bias and not just a case of reporting the truth? Funny how coverage that is not favorable to Bush is considered bias. The other alternative is to only report positive news or to spin every piece of news to make it appear positive, but then, that would be tantamount to propaganda. The administration has Fox, MSNBC and Sinclair, they dissiminate prepackaged new stories and they pay journalists to favor their stances, there has to be some level of balance.


<font size="5"><center>Legal Controversy Erupts Over TV
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By T.W. FARNAM
August 29, 2008; Page A5

Television advertisements that link Barack Obama to a 1960s radical have sparked a legal controversy that is unlikely to be resolved until after the general election in November.

The group sponsoring the ads, the American Issues Project, is relying on a legal exemption that allows nonprofits to accept large contributions to spend on political advertising so long as the groups don't have the "major purpose" of influencing elections. The group is funded by Harold Simmons, the Texas billionaire who was also a primary backer of the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth group that attacked Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry in 2004.

Liberal groups that spend a majority of their funding on advocacy other than elections have used the "qualified nonprofit" exemption to run ads intended to influence elections following requirements established by the 1986 Supreme Court decision that created the exemption. In recent years, several conservative groups have also been formed that take advantage of it.

The American Issues Project's only action so far has been producing the commercial attacking the Democratic presidential nominee, which has aired more than 7,000 times in swing states at a cost of nearly $3 million, making it the largest expenditure by an independent group so far this election cycle.

"It really comes down to whether this organization has a major purpose of influencing federal elections," said Richard Hasen, an election-law expert at Loyola Law School in Los Angeles. "So far, it looks like that's the only purpose of this group."

The American Issues Project said its "major purpose" is championing such conservative causes as small government, a strong national defense, lower taxes, family values and economic growth. The group's lawyer, Cleta Mitchell, said the advertisement fulfills the group's mission because of its national-security focus.

"The purpose of that expenditure is still to promote the organization's issues and purposes," Mrs. Mitchell said. "There can be no higher manifestation of a commitment to a strong national defense or America's role in the world than who is selected to be commander in chief."

Ed Martin, president of the American Issues Project, said this is his group's first initiative. The group will spend a majority of its budget on issue-based advocacy, he said, probably on TV and radio. "Part of our plan is that the issue advocacy will better fit around the time when the new Congress is coming in," Mr. Martin said.

The legality of the group's actions will likely have to be decided by the Federal Election Commission or the courts.

The advertisement ties Sen. Obama to William Ayers, an education professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago who co-founded the Weather Underground, which was responsible for bombing government buildings in the early 1970s.

Mr. Ayers was an early political ally of Sen. Obama in Chicago and the two served together on the board of a charity. The Obama campaign says the ad makes several false statements, including that Mr. Ayers launched Sen. Obama's political career and that Sen. Obama called Mr. Ayers "mainstream" and "respectable."

One of the American Issues Project's directors was formerly a paid consultant to Sen. John McCain's presidential campaign. Mr. Simmons has raised more than $50,000 for the Republican presidential candidate.

The Obama campaign has run a response ad linking the charges to Sen. McCain and has mounted a campaign to combat the advertisement by encouraging supporters to make phone calls and write emails to TV stations airing the commercial, alleging it is both false and illegal. The campaign says its supporters have sent about 93,000 emails to the Sinclair Broadcast Group Inc., which owns many of the stations running the spot.

The Obama campaign's general counsel, Bob Bauer, has sent two letters to the Justice Department asking for an investigation of the group and the $3 million contribution by Mr. Simmons, the only funder who has been disclosed.

Mr. Martin of the American Issues Project said none of the 69 stations running the ad has pulled it in response to complaints from Sen. Obama and his supporters. Mr. Martin stood by the veracity of the commercial.

Write to T.W. Farnam at timothy.farnam@wsj.com

http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB121996889132881757.html?mod=special_page_campaign2008_leftbox
 
Well, I guess you could say there is some sort of "balance" now that MSNBC has become the liberal equivalent of Fox and CNN seems to be "sort of" down the middle. Even with CNN, it's not that individual commentators are balanced, it's just a balance of left and right leaning commentators.
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

The failure is not with the media, per se, the problem is that REAL "journalism" is as dead as "hip hop" these days. Hell, Drudge is about the most "objective journalist" around (and that is a SAD statement on the state of journalism).
 
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The answer to your question, "what are the "liberal media" outlets, has been right under our noses for quite a while:

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Well, let me give you some left-leaning equivalents to Fox, NYP, and Washington Times, ok?

Those are CBS, NBC, PBS, ABC, MSNBC, LA Times, Washington Post, Atlanta Journal-Constitution, CNN, etc.

Personally, I listen and watch all of it. I spend over 3 hours of my time reading articles and watching news shows. I can see the media bias, and sift right through it.


tian
 
You Don't Need a Weatherman to Know Which Way Journalists Blow

You Don't Need a Weatherman to Know Which Way Journalists Blow
When it comes presidential kill lists, too many in the media dig power absolute power absolutely.
Nick Gillespie | February 7, 2013

Remember back in what was it - 2006 or thereabouts - when left-leaning critics of President Bush couldn't stop talking about how nothing was more red, white, and blue than good old-fashioned American dissent? Why, our very country was founded by an act of dissent, didn't you know! So back when Vice President Dick Cheney - routinely likened to Darth Vader and Voldemort - was running things, the very air was filled with cries of "not in our name" and all that, because it was so damned important that the United States not contravene its basic principles even in the name of self defense!

Those were good times, friends, and they stopped pretty much the minute that liberals and Democrats took control of the federal government. The antiwar movement disappeared once it became clear that Barack Obama wasn't going to shut down Gitmo or stop bombing places or give a rat's ass about that constitutional stuff he used to teach in law school.

But cheer up, because things can always get worse, as the last few days have demonstrated.

There's that report from the Open Society Justice Initiative that despite Obama's soothing intonations to the contrary, the U.S. is complicit in torture up the ying-yang. And of course there's the leaked memo outlining what passes for Obama's decision tree regarding killing suspected terrorists, including U.S. citizens. It's a relief to that the president has put his top men - anonymous yet "informed, high-level" officials - on figuring just who should be pinged and when. No need to share information or evidence or anything with either the legislative or judicial branches because that would just get in the way of getting the job done, right? Checking your math and making sure you're not making a bone-headed unconstitutional mistake is for losers. We're at war, don't you see, a new and different sort of war in which the old rules don't apply. And besides, doesn't the authorization of war powers signed three days after September 11, 2001 mean that whatever Obama does is A-OK? So even if we do need rules, Obama's got that covered! Nothing to see here, move along please.

It's sad, though never unexpected, when leaders such as Obama flip flop like a fish on the sand once they ascend power. Cromwell did it, the French revolutionaries did it, Castro did it, the Sandanistas did it, and on and on. It's one of the oldest plots in history and infinitely adaptable to new conditions. How else to explain, as Jacob Sullumn notes, that candidate Obama rejected the Bush adminstration's position that it could detain U.S. citizens as enemy combatants without pressing charges while President Obama claims the right to kill U.S. citizens without laying charges? The guy may not be able to pass a budget but christ, give him credit for ingenuity and brass balls.

But Obama is a politician - what do you expect? Politicians are not just the bottom of the barrel - they're what's under the bottom of the barrel, right?

So what then explains the contortions that journalists fold themselves into like so many carnival sideshow rubber-men in defending their hero? Mike Riggs points to comments by rising liberal MSNBC pundit Toure that suggest just how far explicitly pro-Obama liberals are willing to go in excusing the president's declaring himself and his crew judge, jury, and executioner. As Riggs explains, it seems pretty clear that Toure isn't up to speed on specifics, especially when it comes to the killing of Anwar al-Awlaki's 16-year-old son:

When his co-hosts continue to press him on the consequences of a small group of individuals determing who deserves to die without a shred of oversight, Touré dismisses them by saying, "Al Qaeda attacked this nation. We are attacking al Qaeda back." On Twitter Touré simply said, "He's the Commander in Chief."​

Al Qaeda is the new Communism, dig? To invoke its name is to settle all arguments. If Toure is just light on facts, the recent defense of Obama's kill list machinations from Michael Tomasky is more illuminating of the mind-set that controls journalists. Tomasky has been at the news game far longer than Toure and once upon a time penned a fawning "inside" account of what he dubbed Hillary Clinton's "Improbable, Victorious Senate Campaign." After stints at various leftoid outposts such as The American Prospect and The Guardian, Tomasky has now found a perch at The Daily Beast. Back in the day, Tomasky was a reliable critic of everything related to Bushitler, by which I of course mean Dick Cheney. Here he is circa 2009, in a typical post titled "Dick Cheney's Dangerous Game":

Cheney wants Americans to live in fear. He believes that we should be living in more or less constant fear of another attack. I suppose it probably occurred to him over the years that, when a people are whipped into a fearful state, they tend to hand their leaders more power....

Obama wants to move people beyond fear. "If we continue to make decisions from within a climate of fear," he said, "we will make more mistakes." Are the American people up to this? More to the point – and more depressing to consider – are Washington politicians? We will find out as this debate plays out.​

This sort of analysis struggles to rise above Goofus and Gallant in Highlights for Children: Goofus constantly invokes real and imagined threats to concentrate his power. Gallant talks a good game about protecting rights even while claiming far more power than this predecessor.

Tomasky struggles with the in-your-face spectacle of a president saying he has the right to pick which Americans can be killed unilaterally by insisting that the important thing is to walk a mile in Obama's mocassins:

I’ve always written about politics with part of my brain focused on the question of what I would do if I were in Politician X’s position. This line of thought came so naturally to me that I imagined everyone did this.... [The memo is] certainly not something that makes the breast swell with pride. But it does make me wonder what I would do in this situation, and I can’t honestly come up with easy answers.​

He should try harder to come up with answers, perhaps by halting the mind-meld with the powerful and instead grokking some imaginary solidarity with the falsely accused. After dilating a while on the term imminent as used in the memo and then deciding that al Qaeda is pretty much always about to attack the U.S., he concludes

Well, either this makes a certain sense to you, or you just think that a state can't be in the business of killing its own citizens and that's all there is to it. There's no doubt that a sentence like "the president has the power to order the assassination of American citizens" sounds positively despotic. However, these are people who have gone off and joined Al Qaeda (the white paper also mentions "associated groups," and one definitely wonders where that line is drawn, precisely). If an American citizen of German descent had gone back to...Germany in 1934 and joined the Nazi Party and worked his way up such that he was involved in the plotting of attacks against American soldiers, and Roosevelt had order him killed, no one would have batted an eye in 1940s America.​

You got that? You're either with the president's logic or you can't understand it (shades of George Bush's simplistic, Bible-based manicheanism when he said you're either with us or against us!). There's enough qualifiers in the passage above to give anyone pause, of course: Who are the associated groups after all? How exactly is this like 1940s America? The short version, as even Tomasky eventually grants later, is that "it's not 1940s America." Last time, I checked, Congress declared war against Nazi Germany. And the Nazis kept membership lists which greatly minimized - though didn't eliminate fully - questions of who belonged. Maybe more important, mistakes were made, including the internment of over 100,000 Japanese Americans and alien residents for no good reason other than hysteria. Can we learn at least a little from the past? And not the distant past, either. Enough of the detainees at Gitmo were wrongly held so that you'd figure Obama (didn't he pledge to shut that prison down?) would want to make double-plus sure that he's targeting the right bastards?

But all Tomasky's mental whittling is besides the point, really, because people aren't saying they can't think of scenarios in which the state has the legitimate right to kill bad guys (including its own citizens) without going through every possible aspect of criminal or military due process. The current controversy is over Barack Obama's unwillingness to explain precisely how and when he's been making such calls and exactly where he thinks he derives the right to do so.

Tomasky's colleague at The Daily Beast, David Frum, is not beset with internal strife. A former Bush speechwriter (best known for coining the phrase "the Axis of Evil"), Frum says that just about anything Obama does is plainly covered under the authorization of the use of military force (AUMF) that was signed a few days after 9/11. "That resolution remains in force today," writes Frum. "It assigns to the president - not to some judge - the authority to determine who committed the 9/11 attacks. It assigns to the president - not a jury - the responsibility to prevent any future acts of international terrorism." Leaving aside the fact that it was signed a dozen years ago, the AUMF does direct the president "to use all necessary and appropriate force" to bring the 9/11 terrorists to justice as well as "to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States." While the authorization covers a lot of ground, it doesn't mean that the president, or whoever he designates, can simply do whatever he pleases. As Eli Lake noted for Reason in 2010, the Supreme Court limited President Bush's powers under the AUMF and the Obama adminstration itself pledged to respect international law even while prosecuting the war on terror. More to the point, perhaps, the AUMF doesn't mean that Congress can't oversee or be privy to the president's actions and logic. What does it say about Obama's respect for a separation of powers and the Constitution that he has refused to give the Senate the classified truth on his decision matrix for killing suspected terrorists? Nothing good.

We grudgingly allow the government to surveil, detain, and confront people all the time when various sorts of suspicions are raised; the difference is that there is a clear framework in place so that we can judge whether the government is acting in accordance with the law rather than simply acting on its own impulse. You'd think that Obama - an Ivy League lawyer and a Nobel Peace Prize winner no less- would be proactive in reassuring the Congress and the country that he's not flying by the seat of his pants on this.

By making clear that as a journalist he tries to see things first and foremost from the perspective of the powerful, Michael Tomasky helps to clarify why so many in the media are rushing to the president's defense. They are entranced with power and the view from the top. "Presidents live with that responsibility [of protecting American lives] every day," he writes. "If that responsibility were mine, I can't honestly say what I'd do, and I don't think anyone can." Not all journalists are awed by power, of course, even on the right (National Review's Jim Geraghty, for instance, asserts that this sort of thing of extra-judicial killing policy wouldn't be cricket even under a GOP president).

This isn't ultimately about ideological hypocrisy - of liberals changing their tune once their guy is in office - but something much more basic and much more disturbing. It reveals that for all their crowing about being watchdogs of all that is good and decent in society, when push comes to shove, too many journalists are ready and willing handmaidens to power - including the power to kill.

There's the old saw from Mother Jones - the namesake of today's left-wing publication - that her job was to "comfort the afflicted and afflict the comfortable." To its credit and unlike too many on the broadly construed left, Mother Jones (the magazine and website) still believes that as it relates to civil liberties. As Adam Serwer has written,

The Obama administration claims that the secret judgment of a single "well-informed high level administration official" meets the demands of due process and is sufficient justification to kill an American citizen suspected of working with terrorists. That procedure is entirely secret. Thus it's impossible to know which rules the administration has established to protect due process and to determine how closely those rules are followed. The government needs the approval of a judge to detain a suspected terrorist. To kill one, it need only give itself permission.​

That such an obvious analysis escapes so many in the press is troubling, to say the least. But it makes total sense if, as Michael Tomasky says, you focus first on what you would do if you were in "Politician X's position." The world - and your concerns - must surely look different when viewed from such a lofty vantage point.

http://reason.com/archives/2013/02/07/you-dont-need-a-weatherman-to-know-which
 
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You Don't Need a Weatherman to Know Which Way Journalists Blow

There have been many holding Obama to the fire, where are those holding GW to the fire?


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I'm still waiting for those principled conservatives to apologize to all those whose lives have been forever changed by the lie of WMD in Iraq!

Where is the media calling out John McSame for holding up the Hagel nomination because he dared to say GW was the worst president in the last 50 for going into Iraq and killing innocents.
 
I'm still waiting for those principled conservatives to apologize to all those whose lives have been forever changed by the lie of WMD in Iraq!

Where is the media calling out John McSame for holding up the Hagel nomination because he dared to say GW was the worst president in the last 50 for going into Iraq and killing innocents.
So if everyone is a hypocrite, then no one is a hypocrite?

Bush was running the "imperial presidency" when he detained Americans with no indictments or warrants, but according to you, Obama killing with less is just a "slippery slope."

This is about hypocrites, hypocrite.
 
So if everyone is a hypocrite, then no one is a hypocrite?

Bush was running the "imperial presidency" when he detained Americans with no indictments or warrants, but according to you, Obama killing with less is just a "slippery slope."

This is about hypocrites, hypocrite.

You need the so called kill list that you have been on for the last few weeks to tell you that?

Since when are politicians not?

You keep not voting.
 
You need the so called kill list that you have been on for the last few weeks to tell you that?

Since when are politicians not?

You keep not voting.
No, I stopped voting after TARP. That hypocrisy wasn't enough apparently. You and others kept going and brought the shiny new precedent where Americans deserved to be killed by the president with no justification other than "trust me," which you do of course.

The problem isnt that you're a hypocrite, everyone has contradictions. The problem is you're happy to have them and help elect politicians that share them, then feel you're actually right because your side won the election.

A decent human being would try to reduce their contradictions and flaws, not look for politiicans that share them.
 
You and others kept going and brought the shiny new precedent where Americans deserved to be killed by the president with no justification other than "trust me," which you do of course.

Pardon me for interjecting into your usual rant with T.O., but what, exactly, says that an American on foreign soil engaged in warfare against the U.S., stands in different shoes than any other similarly situated non-American combatant ???

This isn't a "fact-based" question, i.e., whether or not the facts support a conclusion that "X" citizens on foreign soil was engaged in combat against the U.S.; but, assuming arguendo that the facts demonstrate the combat, what is the basis for NOT treating such an American just as any other non-American combatant ???





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Pardon me for interjecting into your usual rant with T.O., but what, exactly, says that an American on foreign soil engaged in warfare against the U.S., stands in different shoes than any other similarly situated non-American combatant ???

This isn't a "fact-based" question, i.e., whether or not the facts support a conclusion that "X" citizens on foreign soil was engaged in combat against the U.S.; but, assuming arguendo that the facts demonstrate the combat, what is the basis for NOT treating such an American just as any other non-American combatant ???





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Just like in the other thread, I haven't worked out the details for me personally. I'm leaning towards the constitution as a contract between the government and it's citizen as well as a declaration of actions within it's border. But it would apply to many more instances than drone strikes on Americans, which is why i'm still working through it.

However when you ask that question, you should acknowledge that no one has provided a "politically definitive" answer. Politically definitive as in not necessarily right but we've all come to terms with the way forward after reasonable debate. The president and congress and the media have avoided that debate. They debate drones and not the relationship between a man and his government.

The current position of the government regarding this issue is manifest in it's actions, that it has acknowledged openly. Multiple American citizens were killed by their government with nothing more than an executive review. I view that as unambiguously bad. The president and his supporters are less sure it's bad, despite the previous outrage with just detaining an American with only executive say so.

After all that, the first fact I try to reconcile in my own thinking is whether Yemen is a battlefield. I didn't have a problem with the President's action when it involved non-Americans, so I need to figure out was it wrong to act in Yemen and Pakistan the same way as we did in Iraq and Afghanistan.
 
No, I stopped voting after TARP. That hypocrisy wasn't enough apparently. You and others kept going and brought the shiny new precedent where Americans deserved to be killed by the president with no justification other than "trust me," which you do of course.

The problem isnt that you're a hypocrite, everyone has contradictions. The problem is you're happy to have them and help elect politicians that share them, then feel you're actually right because your side won the election.

A decent human being would try to reduce their contradictions and flaws, not look for politiicans that share them.

Your problem is that you believe the hype that there is a perfect politician. Mr. Smith Goes to Washington was Hollywood hype. Abe Lincoln really didn't care about slavery and given an alternative would have maintained it and Reagan was the first president to create a trillion dollar debt.

You can keep that I don't like what's going on so I'm not participating shit.
 
I don't expect a perfect one. How about one that doesn't use the reasoning of taking away your liberty to protect your freedom.

Too much to ask huh?
 
Just like in the other thread, I haven't worked out the details for me personally . . .

I didn't have a problem with the President's action when it involved non-Americans, so I need to figure out was it wrong to act in Yemen and Pakistan the same way as we did in Iraq and Afghanistan

Fair enough, but you seemed so much surer, as if you had the details worked out for you when you said,


This is another great example of people deserving the government they got. Obama killed a US citizen who was not an immediate threat with no due process . . .




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Fair enough, but you seemed so much surer, as if you had the details worked out for you when you said,






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What do you mean? I don't have it worked why it's wrong, but it's wrong and he did do it.

I'm arguing with people that don't agree with its seriousness. I think its worse than a slippery slope.
 
Yes, Justice is a necessary conditions for Liberty. Do you understand how far we've move away from Freedom on a daily basis with blatant hypocrisies that contradict Justice?

I suggest when you use liberty, you also include justice.
You say that as if your mindset and your elected officials haven't been sacrificing Justice to the idea of Mercy and the Greater Good for decades. You failed at advancing Liberty and only succeeded at expanding politician's influence. Good job. It really culminated into something awesome this last recession.
 
Yes, Justice is a necessary conditions for Liberty. Do you understand how far we've move away from Freedom on a daily basis with blatant hypocrisies that contradict Justice?


You say that as if your mindset and your elected officials haven't been sacrificing Justice to the idea of Mercy and the Greater Good for decades. You failed at advancing Liberty and only succeeded at expanding politician's influence. Good job. It really culminated into something awesome this last recession.

Do you understand how far we've move away from Freedom on a daily basis


Post the things that you can't do today that you could do 15 years ago.
 



Post the things that you can't do today that you could do 15 years ago.




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