I gave him $50. I dont dare to have the audacity to hope he won't be/isn't a scumbag. I hope he's a lesser scumbag.
Exactly. These niggaz are comparing him to King and Malcolm, when neither of them were running for office. Don't you understand the difference between civil rights leaders and politicians???
The irony is lost on some. I don't mind Obama or Clinton myself, I don't really see a lot of difference and can live with either's. I'm actually for the dream ticket in either incaration. I got my worries about the "true believers."
I know I don't want another Republican ... unless it was Ron Paul. lol
I don't know, that dude is a pretty known racist and even had a pretty anti-Black newspaper that he used to publish. I thought that his Black support was dead at that point.
I think people have a right to vote to break the hold of both Bushes and Clintons on the Executive Office. That doesnt bother you but its a legitimate concern. Not only that, voting to establish a black swing vote that exists independently of the Democrats is a politically mature act over the long haul.
I dont plan to vote McCain but I understand there can be a logic to it.
So not voting for Hillary will ruin the Democratic Party? Cant a black vote exist independent of the Democratic Party? Im tired of the Dems knowing they have the black vote no matter how much they neglect our issues. Fuck that. We dont owe it to anyone to vote Democrat each and every time. Truth be told, if the GOP took us seriously as potential voters we could get something out of them as well.
Maybe some folks are getting called uncle Toms for criticizing Obama, but I dont believe the majority are. SOME people are acting in the way that troubles you. SOME arent. If you choose to look at the glass as half-empty, thats your CHOICE not reality.
Did OBAMA say it about Bill Clinton or did the GOP? Did ANY Democratic candidate in fact say such things or did the GOP? The treatment of politics as a contact sport needs to change and if Obama is willing to make that a plank in his platform Im all for it. Politics is not a sport and it is not a war. And I for one will not be shrugging it off as "All In The Game."
Apparently a lot of voters feel the same way, given the movement behind Obama.
So, you don't want the Democrats to take you advantage, but have thrown yourselves head over heels over the first legitimate Black democratic candidate??? Yeah, the Democrats are really gonna get the message. Please, if Obama gets the nomination, that basically says that they've got us for life. Y'all will never vote against the Democrats ever if again if they nominate Obama. Tell the truth.
If Obama wasn't running (and wasn't "black"), Hillary would get 90-95% of the BLACK vote. Slam-dunk!! No questions asked.
And all of the fools on this board ('cept the usual woman-haters) wouldn't be quoting RIGHT-WING sources in trying to smear her. Case closed!!!
Don't pretend it's about "politics" or Bill Clinton's tactics or some imagined hatred the Clintons SUDDENLY have for black folk. Bullshit. It's all about lock-step allegiance to (and protection of) the half-black guy in the race. Save-a-bro.
Which is fine. Just don't pretend it's something else, or that you care about anything Hillary's ever said and/or done.
You know, I never thought I'd be quoting Blunt in agreement, but this is so money, I don't even know what to do with it. I've been in so many arguments with Black folks over the years because I've always been a Clinton critic, legitimately, but to see this phony criticism of the Clintons over the smallest shit, none of which you can really elaborate on is bullshit. There hasn't been one negative ad run by either Democratic candidate this whole cycle. I bet y'all don't even know that that's never been done before. So that means that every other primary has been nastier than this one. You guys are just too brainwashed to noticed that Barack and Hillary are essentially kissing each others asses in comparison to most years.
While that may be true, if Obama was fully white he would have already gotten the nomination.
Really, who was the last white Senator with less than a full term to be nominated for president??? What's the difference between him and John Edwards???
He's essentially White Amerikkka's way of saying to Black people, "Please, don't think we're racist anymore." No Democratic candidate has ever gotten a free ride like this. Bill Clinton had his whole life put out there when he was running. Mike Dukakis had his voting records distorted to make it look like he was in support of rape. What's going on is a cakewalk compared to every other campaign that has ever existed.
I think are confusing correlation with causation. The turn on the Clintons didn't start UNTIL they began the race-baiting episodes before S.C... If you remember, until that point, Hillary actually had the higher percentage of the black vote and did for SEVERAL months up to that point.
No one was voting for Obama because "he is black". That didn't work for the previous black candidate that ran in S.C. against a white man...where blacks overwhelmingly voted for the man.
The key variable is NOT skin-color in the case and you are clearly confusing correlation with causation..which is a very easily-made but logically fallacious assumption in this case.
The reality of the matter is that the race-baiting pushed by the Clinton campaign backfired..nothing more..nothing less. They lost that game.
First off, what did the Clinton's do to race bait exactly???
How is saying that LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act, when asked about it, amount to race baiting?
How is calling an opponents campaign a "fairy tale" race baiting?
Way, way, way worse has happened in every campaign. Just go back to 2004, when all the Democrats jumped on Howard Dean when he was the front runner to see way harsher treatment. I swear, y'all need to pay attention more?
Here is the deal:
A Black man, that is not singing and dancing like Prince or Michael, has the ability to move the masses and inspire on the whole...People (white and black) can't deal. A buncha Uncle Tom's and Handkerchief Heads.
And those who can't deal, get the fuck outta the way of those that can deal. Let the onese that love and support Obama go on to lead rich and successful lives. You dumb asses go back to drinking forties and smoking weed and waiting for a check.
OBAMA 2008
Stupid bastards!
All those drinkin 40's ass niggaz don't vote at all, and if they did, they're most likely like the niggaz on here who need autonomous support for Obama. They'd probably shoot anybody who didn't vote for him. Maybe you should recruit them
TO THIS DAY nobody knows what Reagan stood for, it's all MYTH.
- He gave amnesty to illegals
- He "cut and run" from Lebanon
- He RAISED taxes like 17 times
But Republicans STILL swear he was the ultimate conservative.
He sure in hell did. Reagan was such a piece of shit and his supporters don't even care. That's why I was wondering why Obama's talking about wanting to be like Ronald Reagan. Fuck Ronald Reagan!!!
They dont have a CULT Following?????
Im pretty sure they have black supporters too
all politics is cult-like. The mere fact that we have political parties is cultish. Republicans voting for Republicans and Democrats voting for Democrats is cult-like.
But to call Obama supporters cultish and not call Hillary supporters cultish is pretty lame.
They're not cultish. Have you ever heard one Hillary supporter say they would vote Republican, if Hillary didn't get the nomination??? Are they willing to destroy the party if she doesn't get the nod??? No, because those who are voting for her are going to vote for Obama, if she doesn't win. It is Obama supporters who are talking in such extreme language, such as, "I'm voting Republican" and "I aint voting". That's cultish.
I can see why people on this board avoid conversations with you, and many go as far to put you on ignore. You made a generalization about black voters supporting Obama negatively, and when posed the same exact question about rational decision making concerning white folks, you not only not answer the question, but somehow make it about republican voters? If you have anything informative (or even factual) to say, why don't you just say it without conveniently making the debate about something else?
I will give you another opportunity to make a lucid, intelligent response, instead of the railroading you attempted.
Well, I get what he/she's saying. White folks are voting for all 4 candidates. There is no 1 candidate getting 80-90 percent of the White vote. Hell, Obama's getting 44 percent of the White vote amongst democrats.
Obama is media created candidate, flat the fuck out.
He was forced dow nour throats years ago, which was unheard of during a time when the war should have been talked about daily, not which weak ass democrat they would ram down our throats.
He got tons of free press, TONS of it for the last 2 years!!!!!! As we know the media does control the humanoids, thus obama is the man, even though he and billary are basically bush cosigners.
THEY STAND FOR NO CHANGE, yet their supporters really think they do. Ron and kucinich represented change, but why would the elite want CHANGE??????????
So yeah, I do feel like ALOT of obama supporters are brainwashed like its a cult, alot of them were the bigest bush haters but are on this cosigners dick.
If you werent a big bush hater and liked his policy than supporting obama is a good choice for you, but if you hated bush why would you let the media force another puppet down your throat?
I have witnessed smart posters on this board lose their dam mind over obama. The same posters I witnessed denounce bush for years and know he is criminal. That is scary!!!!!!!!!
It is
I'm one of those people that said I wouldn't vote Democrat if Hillary wins the nomination. And that's goes for anyone else that has ran a campaign like she has.
I don't see him as superman or any other hero, but after some of the things Bill and Hillary has come out and said, all respect has been lost, and I can't see me wanting them to lead me anywhere.
How has she ran a negative campaign? There hasn't been one negative ad run by her or any other democrat. That is the first time this has ever happened.
You must not follow politics do you? If you think this is negative, then I suggest you watch every time
Hillary's fans must be feeling very miserable, scared and unsure about her candidacy cos they spend too much time on and worrying about Obama and his fans. Bill enjoyed the same level of passion in 1992..fcukin cry babies


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No Clinton supporters were dumb enough to vote Republican, if he aint get the nod. Never did you hear that. Obama supporters aren't even Democrats, they're Obamamanians, which is something else. Nobody was going to act extrememly if Bill Clinton aint get the nod. We just wanted a Democrat in the White House. There is a big difference.
My point is if you are not for Obama, then this type of stuff will get promoted amongst the ones that do. Otherwise, who cares. What are you gonna do about it. No one is changing their opinion. What popular candidate doesn't have "cult" followings. Why isn't their an article about Ron Paul or HRC cult followings posted on here instead of Obama. This is another troll post just to get a rise out of Obama supporters whether they rightfully support him or not.
So if you are really for Obama, you wouldn't mind that he has a strong following. He cant help it. The most he can do is turn ppl off. Hes trying to win an election.
Ron Paul has a small group of fans. Barack Obama has the entire country in his grasp. Big fuckin' difference.
OK, so the ultimate goal of this post was to NOT VOTE right?
All the points made besides Blunt's pro-Hillary posts were 100% in favor of not voting, right?
Funny thing is, I HEARD THE SAME SHIT IN 2004!
So fine, let's drop out of the system and just not vote and then bitch and wine when the dude we DON'T WANT is fucking up the country.
I think that is the platform MOST of you anti-everybody cats are supporting.
EVERY election I can remember, that was the candidate the so-called "objective" black folks ended up supporting (I was one too for many years), but I realize now that my goal was to have something to bitch about. That was my favorite candidate.
If Malcolm X himself was the frontrunner with MLK as the running mate, these same cats would vote for the opportunity to bitch and complain for another 4 years.
That's the REALITY of this bullshit. Most of you cats that complain now have never voted and are simply campaigning for another non-vote.
I LOVE weed, but I have never let my love of blunts keep me from my love of some semblance of freedom.
I think you sum up a large percentage of my arguement. The weed smokin' populace has finally decided to pay attention, and now you know everything about politics. Malcolm X and MLK were religious leaders, not politicians. You cannot confuse the two. Politicians' main goal is to get elected, religious and civil rights leaders had the lord's will in them and weren't seeking office, just freedom.
There has only been 1 Cult in recent Amerikkkan politics and that is the insane cult of Ronald Reagan. White people speak of Reagan as if he were a savior. I remember when I was in college overhearing these white boy talk about how they were going to cast a vote for "Our Glorious Leader".


The reason I voted and will vote again for the man is I believe he isn't fully tainted by our political system. John "Die Hard 6" McCain and Billary are just different sides of the dirty coin.
Isn't that what idiots like you said in 2000. That Bush and Gore were the same people??? That's why people voted for Nader. Now look at you, Bush has fucked everything up, and Al Gore is at the fore front of "Global Warming" and just won a Nobel Peace Prize. And this is the guy y'all said was just like Bush in 2000. Y'all should be real proud of that.
What about the fact that prior to this election 90% of black folx were voting democrat no matter what? Isn't that "cult like idiocy" in itself? The fact that black people are talking about voting either party is positive regardless of circumstances. At least people can't count on us for votes w/o speaking to our issues. The reason black folx are saying that is not because it's Obama or bust. It's the WAY Hillary is running her campaign.
How is she running her campaign, and please, use specifics.
You know that is a bunch of bullshit that is why you didn't respond the last time. The Clintons played the race-baiting game to re-frame Obama as the Black Candidate and not the candidate who just happens to be black. Obama, especially long term, had nothing to gain from that and aggressively avoided it. The game backfired on the Clintons..plain and simple.
Name me one thing that was that offensive that either Bill or Hillary said that hasn't been said between all political opponents?