The Blast Effect: This is how bullets from an AR-15 blow the body apart

[knightmelodic]

What gun isn't made to kill? Any gun will kill regardless of how small the caliber is. It's all about shot placement.

Did you miss the part where I said PEOPLE?

Not all guns are made to kill. Target guns for example. And bird guns are made to kill, well, birds. Nitro Express is made (unfortunately) for big game. Not PEOPLE.

Will people use any gun to kill each other? Obviously. But not all guns are made specifically to kill people and if you think so you're ignorant. The AR platform is made with one and only one purpose - to kill people.

 

[doe moe]

I have 4 pistol permits that don't expire till 2024.

Why North Carolina lift the requirement for pistol permits? Now you don't need one.

 

[cli-terminator]

You know any black gun instructors in the Charlotte area?

Yeah. The chapter president for the Charlotte chapter is an instructor and former LE. I think he was formerly military prior to that as well. The NAAGA chapter for Charlotte is called Shoot2Win and his nickname is Unc

 

[DC_Dude]

Yeah. The chapter president for the Charlotte chapter is an instructor and former LE. I think he was formerly military prior to that as well. The NAAGA chapter for Charlotte is called Shoot2Win and his nickname is Unc

Thanks

 

[34real]

I understand shooting those prairy dogs but goddamn how can white folks just sit and kill shit allday and find enjoyment in doing it?

watching their guts just explode out of their bodies

 

[cli-terminator]

Did you miss the part where I said PEOPLE?

Not all guns are made to kill. Target guns for example. And bird guns are made to kill, well, birds. Nitro Express is made (unfortunately) for big game. Not PEOPLE.

Will people use any gun to kill each other? Obviously. But not all guns are made specifically to kill people and if you think so you're ignorant. The AR platform is made with one and only one purpose - to kill people.

Not true. The AR platform is a multifaceted platform designed to meet various purposes. That is why it has the flexibility to shoot various calibers from 22lr to the standard .223 round to 450 bushmaster. Don't confuse the platform with the ammo types it can fire.

 

[cli-terminator]

I have 4 pistol permits that don't expire till 2024.

Why North Carolina lift the requirement for pistol permits? Now you don't need one.

Old Jim Crown era laws that had roots in racism. You already have your purchase permits so it'll save you time when you go to the store as opposed to anyone without who'll have their FBI FCIS background check done in the store

 

[knightmelodic]

Not true. The AR platform is a multifaceted platform designed to meet various purposes. That is why it has the flexibility to shoot various calibers from 22lr to the standard .223 round to 450 bushmaster. Don't confuse the platform with the ammo types it can fire.

Really? And what would it be shooting at.

You know, never mind. Gun nuts find excuses for anything. The fact is the gun is made to kill people and only people. I don't care what the load is.
Don't bother replying it's the same old record with you guys. And the record is skipping.

 

[cli-terminator]

Thanks

No problem. There's a virtual chapter meeting this coming Saturday morning at 9am. The subject for discussion will be on social media and it's effects on the 2A world. Unc joins these monthly meetings,if his schedule permits, as he's also the regional director as well

 

[Deezz]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/interactive/2023/ar-15-damage-to-human-body/

Damn....

 

[HeathCliff]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/interactive/2023/ar-15-damage-to-human-body/

 

[cli-terminator]

Really? And what would it be shooting at.

You know, never mind. Gun nuts find excuses for anything. The fact is the gun is made to kill people and only people. I don't care what the load is.
Don't bother replying it's the same old record with you guys. And the record is skipping.

22lr made for shooting small varmint like rodents. 450 bushmaster, 50 Beowolf made for hunting deer. 224 Valkyrie made for long distance precision shooting as well as varmint such as coyote. 300 Blackout for hog hunting. 6.5 Grendel for medium sized game like deer from further distance beyond 300 yards. And there are other calibers as well. I didn't even include the pistol calibers that can be shot on AR platform firearms. If you don't know about the AR platform then that's fine but making generalizations about the platform without knowing the platform isn't a good look. You don't have to be a gun nut to do the research and get the information you need.

 

[doe moe]

Examples of AR Style weapons. They look similar but are chambered in very different calibers.

Chambered in 9mm (some can take glock mags)

Chambered in .223/5.56

Chambered in .300 BLK

Chambered in .308 Winchester

 

[God-Of-War-420]

Did you miss the part where I said PEOPLE?

Not all guns are made to kill. Target guns for example. And bird guns are made to kill, well, birds. Nitro Express is made (unfortunately) for big game. Not PEOPLE.

Will people use any gun to kill each other? Obviously. But not all guns are made specifically to kill people and if you think so you're ignorant. The AR platform is made with one and only one purpose - to kill people.

When birds and targets start robbing homes and breaking and entering then I'll get that for home protection, until then I'll use a gun that is good at killing people, since you know, that's the point.

Also people never think about what a break in is like and the nerves/panic it can cause. You enjoy your little pee shooter with a few small caliber rounds when your life is on the line or someone you care about is in danger, for those of us who actually want to defend our homes I suggest going with a gun that's good for Killing efficiently and with a high capacity.

 

[God-Of-War-420]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/interactive/2023/ar-15-damage-to-human-body/

Wait until they find out about shotguns lol

 

[God-Of-War-420]

Go to 6:35 to see what real explosive power is.

 

[DC_Dude]

There really is no top three that applies across the board. The best suggestion I can give is to know the layout of your home, the immediate surrounding area and people who'd be affected. Develop a game plan unique to that and then you can start looking into firearm types that fit the bill. A shotgun might work in some scenarios where others would make a shotgun a terrible choice. Same can be said for rifles as well. The only firearm type that's a must is a pistol as it can be used as a primary weapon or a secondary meant to buy you time to get to your primary as well as buy time to reload your primary. The pistol size and type will be up to you based on comfort in manipulation and usage

I keep this by my bed at night. (my exact AR style gun for home defense)

.300 BLK Out with subsonic ammo.

Thanks

 

[Gods_Debris]

Ironically a lot of videos and articles like this neglect to point out that the bullet used is a .22 caliber round. It does damage because of its speed and kinetic energy. However it is not the overpowered rifle a lot of media and politicians portray it to be. In fact it's underpowered to where most states don't allow it for deer hunting. If most of these ppl who try to say using a hunting rifle for home protection is better actually knew just how much more powerful hunting rounds were they'd be amazed.

Do you want to compare a deers mass to a humans? Average adult male is 130lbs while the most common deer in North America, the white tail, averages 2-3 times our size and are made of dense muscle and and a formidable hide.

 

[God-Of-War-420]

Civilians having weapons meant for war is overkill.

an AR is not meant for war lol

Can I get a list of the top 3 best weapons for home defense?

Glock 19 for carry(the Honda civic of handguns lol old reliable)
Ar for home defense
Saiga 12 gauge ain't bad either.

Most important thing is being properly trained and getting time on a range with whichever home defense tool you choose. You don't want to learn how to use it when you need it most, you want to be comfortable shooting at a distance and with something like an AR you want to be comfortable shooting it close range and at awkward angles, as others have mentioned take your home layout into account, who's in the house and bullet penetration when thinking about how to approach any home defense situation.

 

[cli-terminator]

Do you want to compare a deers mass to a humans? Average adult male is 130lbs while the most common deer in North America, the white tail, averages 2-3 times our size and are made of dense muscle and and a formidable hide.

You missed the point of my reference to deer. I said there are people who try to say using hunting rifles is what should be used for home defense instead of a standard caliber AR unaware of the power hunting rifles have over AR rifles. The fact that an AR is deemed insufficient for deer hunting because it's underpowered is testament to how uninformed a lot of people are for suggesting a hunting rifle is a better option for home defense.

 

[cli-terminator]

Thanks

I keep an AR chambered in 300 Blackout as well with a suppressor as my primary home defense weapon. However I keep a pistol by the bedside as it's easier to set up on my nightstand and is meant to hold me down to get to my AR & home defense belt that carries extra mags and pistol holster

 

[Freakydieu]

Can I get a list of the top 3 best weapons for home defense?

Pistol grip shot gun with tactical light.
300 blackout in an AR frame, with subsonic bullets.
9 mm carbine with tactical light.

You want something that is short and and underpowered so the bullets dont travel thru to many walls. Every billet you shoot you are liable for the damage they do, even if you are shoot at the bad guy, if the bullet hit someone else, that a big and expensive problem.

 

[DC_Dude]

Pistol grip shot gun with tactical light.
300 blackout in an AR frame, with subsonic bullets.
9 mm carbine with tactical light.

You want something that is short and and underpowered so the bullets dont travel thru to many walls. Every billet you shoot you are liable for the damage they do, even if you are shoot at the bad guy, if the bullet hit someone else, that a big and expensive problem.

THANKS

 

[peterlongshort]

Your standard AR shoots .223/5.56 which is a 22 caliber bullet. Same size in diameter as a 22lr bullet that's typically used for small varmint like squirrels, raccoons,etc... It has more powder in it's cartridge allowing to travel faster and farther hence the kinetic energy and impact. However for larger animals like deer, the bullet is too small to do more than wound unless you have precise shot placement. That's why it's not allowed in most states for deer hunting. The round isn't strong enough to penetrate and take a deer down without multiple shots and ends up making the animal suffer as a result. Most hunters will use calibers like .308 or 30_06. Both are larger 30 caliber sized bullets that also travel much faster and further than a standard AR round.

Most people associate ARs with the term "assault weapon" based off aesthetics which have no bearing whatsoever on the ability of the firearm to fire. Good example is the type of gun that was just used in Tennessee which also happened to also have been used in the Chicago parade shooting. The Keltec Sub 2000 is a 9mm pistol caliber carbine. The only thing it has in common with an AR is that it has an M-Lok rail on the handguard (the area surrounding the barrel that has slots in it) which is used for mounting accessories like lights or grips for comfort. There are other rifles that use similar types of fittings that are not AR platform rifles but upon initial looks would immediately get called an AR style weapon.

Unfortunately a lot of information that is provided during the initial time frame around a shooting, is inaccurate and only piggybacks off the high emotions ppl have in reaction to a shooting. By the time, more information is received about the shooting and/or weapon type, ppl are already in their feelings and in some cases they don't even hear the updated information. And unfortunately these shootings also get politicized by both sides of the political line.

Well hot damn, that was a whole Ted Talk.

 

[bbuzzard]

 

[cli-terminator]

My Bergara 22lr bolt-action is a tac driver. Already got it zeroed at 100yds. Will be fun to see how far I can stretch it out as I've heard of competition shooters going pass 300yds shooting 22lr

 

[CPT Callamity]

Go to 6:35 to see what real explosive power is.

I had a dude show up a few stalls down from me on the range. He had a 500 Magnum. One of the Range Officers asked him about it and he said "you want to shoot it?" RO said yeah. Main man loaded up that cannon and passed it to the RO and stepped back.
RO (you could tell he was anticipating the recoil) aimed and then slowly pulled the trigger. That bad boy said BAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMM!!!!
RO put that mufucka down fast as shit

 

[bbuzzard]

I had a dude show up a few stalls down from me on the range. He had a 500 Magnum. One of the Range Officers asked him about it and he said "you want to shoot it?" RO said yeah. Main man loaded up that cannon and passed it to the RO and stepped back.
RO (you could tell he was anticipating the recoil) aimed and then slowly pulled the trigger. That bad boy said BAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMM!!!!
RO put that mufucka down fast as shit

I remember shooting a 357 when I was 16...I hit the steel tsrget but shook like a mf for days...I think the 454 Casull is largest revolver I would try

 

[InTheMind]

When you've been in a natural disaster like a hurricane or my case a tornado and some of your city gets whipe out no police presence for days till they army shows up there is no such thing as crying about assault rifles and what kind of guns they toting! Been there done that! Hospital full people from the disaster plus people getting shot at for walking near houses/stores + people stealing from other people damaged homes pipes/ electronics/ personal items + people running in stores/ banks like its free its like a baby 3rd country war! I had a mossberg 500 pistol grip and dudes would walk up to me and laugh jokingly saying that ain't enough cause they homie got hit by a pump and lived! I upgraded to the AR15 till I learned that it was made to wound your enemy and a ak47 is more powerful so now I have my Draco and a 40cal assault rifle that shoots fmj for my home protection and my moms bought a 38.special snub nose for hers and I have a 9mm and a 380 pistol for when I'm in my whip!

 

[Big Tex]

Naw, the thief breaking in your house will be the one wanting to change their occupation.

Or he can break into your house while you're not home, take your AR and shoot you with it when you come home.

 

[godofwine]

Sigh this is not COD where you’re walking/running through a home blasting folks. Rifles inside homes are cumbersome. You can depend your family with a handgun

Or an assault shotgun. But a pistol works fine.

Last night, I'm in my bed and I hear somebody walking on my deck. I grab my Taurus G3 with a 32 round magazine out of the nightstand and creep to the window like Malcolm

It's dark, so i can only see silhouettes. I turn on my green light and see two deer.

I gave a loud cough and the two of them ran away.

I uncocked my shit
It's some deer
Man, I'm going to be
Fuck this shit

Listen, I'm glad it was deer, but I don't play. Nothing is supposed to be walking on my patio in the middle of the night

 

[doe moe]

 

[cli-terminator]

When you've been in a natural disaster like a hurricane or my case a tornado and some of your city gets whipe out no police presence for days till they army shows up there is no such thing as crying about assault rifles and what kind of guns they toting! Been there done that! Hospital full people from the disaster plus people getting shot at for walking near houses/stores + people stealing from other people damaged homes pipes/ electronics/ personal items + people running in stores/ banks like its free its like a baby 3rd country war! I had a mossberg 500 pistol grip and dudes would walk up to me and laugh jokingly saying that ain't enough cause they homie got hit by a pump and lived! I upgraded to the AR15 till I learned that it was made to wound your enemy and a ak47 is more powerful so now I have my Draco and a 40cal assault rifle that shoots fmj for my home protection and my moms bought a 38.special snub nose for hers and I have a 9mm and a 380 pistol for when I'm in my whip!

A lot of ppl don't realize .223/5.56 was created to wound more so than kill. It's part of the premise behind the creation of the M-16. Enemies were using AK's shooting much deadlier 7.62 ammo but had to be within 300yds for it to be effective. The .223/5.56 round has an effective range of up to 500yds so it allowed troops to stay out of the range of AKs and incapacitate enemies to allow for potential interrogation. Obviously shot placement is key as any bullet can kill if it hits the right location.

As for home defense with FMJs, I would not recommend it. FMJs are meant to be used for training purposes and will keep traveling until they lose momentum. Shooting that for self-defense has a much larger likelihood of over penetrating nearby walls and homes. Plus it won't incapacitate a threat as well because there is no bullet expansion to open up wounds that would negate a threat.

 

[Z MONSTER]

When you've been in a natural disaster like a hurricane or my case a tornado and some of your city gets whipe out no police presence for days till they army shows up there is no such thing as crying about assault rifles and what kind of guns they toting! Been there done that! Hospital full people from the disaster plus people getting shot at for walking near houses/stores + people stealing from other people damaged homes pipes/ electronics/ personal items + people running in stores/ banks like its free its like a baby 3rd country war! I had a mossberg 500 pistol grip and dudes would walk up to me and laugh jokingly saying that ain't enough cause they homie got hit by a pump and lived! I upgraded to the AR15 till I learned that it was made to wound your enemy and a ak47 is more powerful so now I have my Draco and a 40cal assault rifle that shoots fmj for my home protection and my moms bought a 38.special snub nose for hers and I have a 9mm and a 380 pistol for when I'm in my whip!

We had the worst blizzard in a century in my state about 24 years ago. I was in the reserves and we were called up and was the taxi for the local police since their cars and trucks couldn't get through the snow. The police were like if it aint murder, rape, or assault it aint going to be responded to. I remember one call where somebody broke into a garage and stole a 4 wheeler while the victim was home. The police called and said "is the suspect still there?" The victim said no. The police said "OK we will send someone out there tomorrow

 

[cli-terminator]

We had the worst blizzard in a century in my state about 24 years ago. I was in the reserves and we were called up and was the taxi for the local police since their cars and trucks couldn't get through the snow. The police were like if it aint murder, rape, or assault it aint going to be responded to. I remember one call where somebody broke into a garage and stole a 4 wheeler while the victim was home. The police called and said "is the suspect still there?" The victim said no. The police said "OK we will send someone out there tomorrow

A lot of ppl get reality checks all too often at the worst times possible