The Americans: The 2nd best espionage/spy show on TV
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Trying to take on a Navy SEAL with a tranquilizer gun.
The show really does its homework when it comes to spy gear:
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Phillip was stone cold in the last episode. Paige felt his wrath again, although I do feel a little sorry for her. She's growing up completely American and her parents, especially her mom wants it to be all mother Russia, but it unable to let the kids in on the secret. Although her mom has good intentions and valid concerns about Paige's upbringing, expecting Paige to simply understand that without any knowledge of her true nationality isn't fair.
I thought Phillip was going to kill dude at the end. God was on that man's side.
I thought Phillip was going to kill dude at the end. God was on that man's side.
I was a little confused this week I thought the new Russian guy KNEW Nina was caught supping info to the FBI and that was why she was doing the double agent thing?
I wonder will Phil allow his mother Russia loving wife to hand Paige over to Moscow for indoctrination.
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My one wish in life: "I want to die and be reincarnated as a rich and famous athlete, because Finger and Jay threads have too many simp worthy hoes".
I feel bad because the actress that plays her is great but Paige the character?
She got to go because if she was MY daughter she wouldn't be safe in the house with all that weaponry at my disposal.
Damn those Russians don’t play. Nina when it was all said done was down for the cause and no fucks were given. Surprised Stan didn’t go through with it since its all he has at this point. I wonder where his story goes from this point. Is he out for revenge and those his finally start to link up with Phil/Elizabeth. And what happens to Oleg next season dude some legitimately devasted. Nina should’ve ran when she had the chance instead putting all her hopes on Stan
Its only a matter of time before Martha’s gun comes into play. Either she gonna pull it on Phil next season or Phil gonna have to take her out with it.
Intially I was disappointed by the reveal that the son killed his whole family. But once Grandma came back it all made sense. Homie was down for the cause & sprung on the new contact to the point where he killed his own family (even Elizabeth wouldn’t do that).
I was hoping the Elizabeth/Phil would tell the Centre they were out completely. It would’ve setup a very interesting dynamic if they were trying to leave the game and the Russians were trying to pull them back in. With that said I can see some legitmate tension starting to build again between Phil & Elizabeth over revealing their true selves and giving their daughter a cause to get behind. She is already suspious and has some of the same passion her mom has shown. But I cant see any parent wanting to introduce their life. Looking at how it destroyed the other family and all the death all around.
Still one of the best shows on tv and criminally slept.
Gonna miss me some Nina
Its only a matter of time before Martha’s gun comes into play. Either she gonna pull it on Phil next season or Phil gonna have to take her out with it.
Intially I was disappointed by the reveal that the son killed his whole family. But once Grandma came back it all made sense. Homie was down for the cause & sprung on the new contact to the point where he killed his own family (even Elizabeth wouldn’t do that).
I was hoping the Elizabeth/Phil would tell the Centre they were out completely. It would’ve setup a very interesting dynamic if they were trying to leave the game and the Russians were trying to pull them back in. With that said I can see some legitmate tension starting to build again between Phil & Elizabeth over revealing their true selves and giving their daughter a cause to get behind. She is already suspious and has some of the same passion her mom has shown. But I cant see any parent wanting to introduce their life. Looking at how it destroyed the other family and all the death all around.
Still one of the best shows on tv and criminally slept.
Gonna miss me some Nina
In Stan's dream, Martha was stealing files and putting them in her bag. He probably realizes this subconsciously. Stan and Gaad might start looking for a mole next season.
So did the KGB really try this with second-generation illegals? I find it so far-fetched that they could successfully "turn" children who were raised in America. And Jared is a prime example that maybe it's not such a good idea to tell them their whole lives were a lie. I also can't believe Elizabeth would even consider it. She sucks.
Really surprised Stan didn't at least try to save Nina. But I expect we'll see more of her. The actress is far too valuable to the show.
Really surprised Stan didn't at least try to save Nina. But I expect we'll see more of her. The actress is far too valuable to the show.
http://www.wired.com/2012/07/spy-kids/
Russian Sleeper Agent Allegedly Tried to Recruit Son Into Spy Business
A Russian spy who was kicked out of the U.S. has now been accused of trying to recruit his son into the espionage business. And the son reportedly went along with the plan.
According to anonymous U.S. officials cited by the Wall Street Journal’s Devlin Barrett, the plot stemmed from a group of infamous Russian sleeper spies who were unmasked and deported back to Moscow two years ago. Before they were kicked out, they allegedly attempted to use their children as intelligence agents to bypass security clearances. Peter Krupp, the attorney who represented one of the accused spies, declined to answer the accusations on-the-record. But he told the Journal that his client said the U.S. officials are ”crap.” The attorney relayed that his client would never have taken the risk of revealing his secret identity.
The story focuses heavily on one alleged spy kid, Tim Foley. According to the Journal, his parents revealed to him sometime before their June 2010 arrest by the FBI that they were spies. Foley then agreed to join his parents in their pursuit of espionage. U.S. officials said Foley then “stood up and saluted ‘Mother Russia,’” and said he was willing to return to Russia for spy training, Barrett writes. This moment was reportedly captured by federal agents who had bugged their home.
Foley is now believed to live in Russia, leaving the U.S. at the age of 20. It’s not known whether he left before or after his parents were arrested and deported. Foley also hasn’t been formally accused of espionage and reportedly wants to return to the United States.
But it had a certain logic, if exploitative and dangerous. The parents, being Russian expatriates, did not have close access to the centers of power in Washington — a tough job for a spy. They were more on the distant periphery, if even that. Foley’s father, Andrey Bezrukov (also known as “Donald Heathfield”) was a member of the World Future Society, a futurist think tank. The CIA, it ain’t. Foley’s mother, Yelena Vavilova (or “Tracey Foley”) worked for a real estate company.
But kids, growing up within American culture and speaking in fluent American accents, would be more likely to successfully pass the background checks needed to access state secrets — once they got older, of course. And with Russian background and language skills, it stands to reason the U.S. government might have considered them to be potential candidates for a sensitive job. But in reality, they’d actually be working as assets for Russia.
Another purpose for the plan, the Journal notes, would be to use the spy kids as intermediaries for more entrenched Russian spies operating deeper within the government, and who risked being monitored by U.S. counterintelligence agents. The theory is that the kids wouldn’t attract much attention.
The sleeper cell, also known as the “Illegals Program” after the espionage term to refer to spies operating with minimal support, sought to build ties with the American elite. The agents were accused of working under the direction of the Russian Foreign Intelligence Service, or SVR, the successor organization for the KGB’s international spy section. The accused spies were later kicked out of the country and traded for the release of three Russian nationals convicted of spying for the West. The most famous of the lot, spy babe Anna Chapman, went on to become an international celebrity.
Coincidentally, today in spy news, the Russian Supreme Court upheld the treason conviction for Vladimir Lazov, a Russian ex-army colonel who was accused of selling thousands of classified military maps to a U.S. intelligence agent. The ex-colonel is facing 12 years in prison.
There was also an amateurish feel to the spies’ work. Their secret spy computers were apparently junk. They reportedly didn’t bother to change up their Media Access Control address when communicating over the group’s wireless network, which helped the FBI trace them. They also made a series of classic blunders including betraying a cash drop site and leaving a password written down inside one of their homes.
It’s worth wondering just how dumb the effort to recruit their kids really was, and a lesson for parents out there: Please don’t recruit your kids as spies. But had it worked, and had more kids gone along, they might have been more successful than their parents were. But then again, that depends on your parents not blowing their cover because of a bunch of stupid mistakes.
If you think that black characters add to the quality and realism of this show then let them know @TheAmericansFX
I have it from a reliable source that there is support for this and certain people instrumental to the show crave input from black fans. So let's get some bruhs and sistas paid.
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I have it from a reliable source that there is support for this and certain people instrumental to the show crave input from black fans. So let's get some bruhs and sistas paid.
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They did have the little arc with Gregory (Elizabeth's black panther squeeze) from season 1.
That's one way to see it. What struck me is the recognition by the Russians that disenfranchised militant were tremendous assets. I am a patriot and all, but I understand. Now with this new sister who works at Northrup, I wonder how complicated that is going to get. This woman is vulnerable, but even these cold blooded spies develop relationships with their agents. Hell, just look back at Gregory. Now that I think about it, what if she develops a similar relationship with this woman? Oh the possibilities.
I would love to hear from any Fam with knowledge about Patrice Lumumba University. My understanding was that was where they trained black folks and other folks of color for this kind of work.
I would love to hear from any Fam with knowledge about Patrice Lumumba University. My understanding was that was where they trained black folks and other folks of color for this kind of work.
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when is new season starting?
Most slept-on show on TV right now.
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Someone was really living the life of "The Americans"
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/fbi-breaks-up-a-russian-spy-ring-in-new-york-city/2015/01/26/d3f8cee8-a595-11e4-a2b2-776095f393b2_story.html
FBI breaks up a Russian spy ring in New York City
By Adam Goldman January 26 at 7:45 PM
Evgeny Buryakov claimed he worked for a Russian-owned bank in Manhattan as its deputy representative and his LinkedIn page said he belonged to several online groups that suggested a background in finance.
But that was just a cover story to hide his true affiliation when he arrived in the United States in 2010. The FBI said Monday that Buryakov was an agent under nonofficial cover, collecting economic information for the SVR, Russia’s foreign intelligence service.
He was arrested and charged with conspiracy to act and acting as an unregistered agent of a foreign government. Two other SVR agents, posing as official Russian representatives in New York, were forced to leave the country, their roles in the spy ring exposed in a detailed criminal complaint filed against Buryakov.
Both of the men who returned to Russia had diplomatic immunity, officials said.
Prosecutors said Buryakov, known by the diminutive Zhenya, rendezvoused dozens of times in Manhattan and the Bronx with his Russian handlers, Igor Sporyshev, a Russian trade representative, and Victor Podobnyy, an attache at the *Russian mission to the United Nations.
Sporyshev and Podobnyy operated out of a secure office in Manhattan where they talked freely, unaware that FBI counterintelligence agents had bugged the facility, according to the complaint.
The FBI said the SVR agents used the office to communicate with headquarters — “Moscow Center” — to transmit and receive intelligence reports, along with information Buryakov gleaned in “confidential talks” as a banker. Part of Buryakov’s focus, according to the complaint, was information on U.S. sanctions and the development of alternative energy sources. Russia is a major oil and gas exporter, and the United States, working in tandem with the European Union, has imposed sanctions on Moscow for its annexation of Crimea and its role in the continued fighting in Ukraine.
The FBI said it discovered the SVR agents shortly after arresting sleeper Russian spies — known as “illegals” — in 2010. The group of 10 deep-cover agents, many of whom had created ordinary American lives, pleaded guilty to conspiracy charges and were sent back to Russia as part of a spy exchange.
It is not clear why the FBI decided to bring charges now and whether it is hoping to use Buryakov as “trade bait.” Counterintelligence investigations take years and rarely end in charges. The accused spies are typically expelled with no fanfare or sent home in exchange for U.S. assets held overseas.
Buryakov appeared Monday in federal court in Manhattan. His attorney, Sabrina Shroff, said that he was being held without bail. She had argued that he was not a threat to flee, but the judge disagreed.
“This case is especially egregious, as it demonstrates the actions of a foreign intelligence service to integrate a covert intelligence agent into American society under the cover of an employee in the financial sector,” said Randall C. Coleman of the FBI’s Counterintelligence Division.
Sporyshev and Podobnyy were recorded complaining about their work and the fact that they didn’t have secret identities.
Podobnyy said that when he joined the SVR, he didn’t expect to be James Bond or fly helicopters but thought he might be “someone else at a minimum.” The men lamented that the SVR had lost some of its luster but said that their colleagues in the Middle East and Asia still did good work, according to the complaint.
“Not everything has fallen,” Podobnyy says in one recorded conversation. He praised “Directorate S,” the SVR division in charge of nontraditional espionage, including sleeper agents.
“Directorate S is the only intelligence that is real intelligence,” Podobnyy says, adding that the United States was a difficult place to work because of the FBI.
“Look, in the States even the S couldn’t do anything. They caught 10 of them,” he said, referring to the 2010 arrests.
“They weren’t doing [expletive] here, you understand,” he tells Sporyshev. “Well, they studied some people, worked out some exits, but they didn’t get any materials.”
The complaint reveals that the SVR agents tried to recruit people working for major companies and young women with ties to a New York university.
In one instance, according to the complaint, Sporyshev asked for Buryakov’s help in crafting questions for a Russian news organization.
The FBI did not name the news organization, but the questions were related to the New York Stock Exchange. The FBI said it believed that SVR was directing the news organization to ask the questions.
Last year, the FBI said, Sporyshev told Buryakov in a telephone call that he needed help in researching the “effects of economic sanctions on our country.”
The FBI later covertly searched Buryakov’s computer at the bank and learned that he had searched the Internet for “sanctions Russia consiquences” and “sanctions Russia impact.”
Eventually, the FBI decided to run a confidential source against Buryakov. The FBI said these “meetings established Buryakov’s willingness to solicit and accept documents that CS-1 claimed he had obtained from a U.S. government agency and which purportedly contained information potentially useful to the Russian Federation.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/fbi-breaks-up-a-russian-spy-ring-in-new-york-city/2015/01/26/d3f8cee8-a595-11e4-a2b2-776095f393b2_story.html
FBI breaks up a Russian spy ring in New York City
By Adam Goldman January 26 at 7:45 PM
Evgeny Buryakov claimed he worked for a Russian-owned bank in Manhattan as its deputy representative and his LinkedIn page said he belonged to several online groups that suggested a background in finance.
But that was just a cover story to hide his true affiliation when he arrived in the United States in 2010. The FBI said Monday that Buryakov was an agent under nonofficial cover, collecting economic information for the SVR, Russia’s foreign intelligence service.
He was arrested and charged with conspiracy to act and acting as an unregistered agent of a foreign government. Two other SVR agents, posing as official Russian representatives in New York, were forced to leave the country, their roles in the spy ring exposed in a detailed criminal complaint filed against Buryakov.
Both of the men who returned to Russia had diplomatic immunity, officials said.
Prosecutors said Buryakov, known by the diminutive Zhenya, rendezvoused dozens of times in Manhattan and the Bronx with his Russian handlers, Igor Sporyshev, a Russian trade representative, and Victor Podobnyy, an attache at the *Russian mission to the United Nations.
Sporyshev and Podobnyy operated out of a secure office in Manhattan where they talked freely, unaware that FBI counterintelligence agents had bugged the facility, according to the complaint.
The FBI said the SVR agents used the office to communicate with headquarters — “Moscow Center” — to transmit and receive intelligence reports, along with information Buryakov gleaned in “confidential talks” as a banker. Part of Buryakov’s focus, according to the complaint, was information on U.S. sanctions and the development of alternative energy sources. Russia is a major oil and gas exporter, and the United States, working in tandem with the European Union, has imposed sanctions on Moscow for its annexation of Crimea and its role in the continued fighting in Ukraine.
The FBI said it discovered the SVR agents shortly after arresting sleeper Russian spies — known as “illegals” — in 2010. The group of 10 deep-cover agents, many of whom had created ordinary American lives, pleaded guilty to conspiracy charges and were sent back to Russia as part of a spy exchange.
It is not clear why the FBI decided to bring charges now and whether it is hoping to use Buryakov as “trade bait.” Counterintelligence investigations take years and rarely end in charges. The accused spies are typically expelled with no fanfare or sent home in exchange for U.S. assets held overseas.
Buryakov appeared Monday in federal court in Manhattan. His attorney, Sabrina Shroff, said that he was being held without bail. She had argued that he was not a threat to flee, but the judge disagreed.
“This case is especially egregious, as it demonstrates the actions of a foreign intelligence service to integrate a covert intelligence agent into American society under the cover of an employee in the financial sector,” said Randall C. Coleman of the FBI’s Counterintelligence Division.
Sporyshev and Podobnyy were recorded complaining about their work and the fact that they didn’t have secret identities.
Podobnyy said that when he joined the SVR, he didn’t expect to be James Bond or fly helicopters but thought he might be “someone else at a minimum.” The men lamented that the SVR had lost some of its luster but said that their colleagues in the Middle East and Asia still did good work, according to the complaint.
“Not everything has fallen,” Podobnyy says in one recorded conversation. He praised “Directorate S,” the SVR division in charge of nontraditional espionage, including sleeper agents.
“Directorate S is the only intelligence that is real intelligence,” Podobnyy says, adding that the United States was a difficult place to work because of the FBI.
“Look, in the States even the S couldn’t do anything. They caught 10 of them,” he said, referring to the 2010 arrests.
“They weren’t doing [expletive] here, you understand,” he tells Sporyshev. “Well, they studied some people, worked out some exits, but they didn’t get any materials.”
The complaint reveals that the SVR agents tried to recruit people working for major companies and young women with ties to a New York university.
In one instance, according to the complaint, Sporyshev asked for Buryakov’s help in crafting questions for a Russian news organization.
The FBI did not name the news organization, but the questions were related to the New York Stock Exchange. The FBI said it believed that SVR was directing the news organization to ask the questions.
Last year, the FBI said, Sporyshev told Buryakov in a telephone call that he needed help in researching the “effects of economic sanctions on our country.”
The FBI later covertly searched Buryakov’s computer at the bank and learned that he had searched the Internet for “sanctions Russia consiquences” and “sanctions Russia impact.”
Eventually, the FBI decided to run a confidential source against Buryakov. The FBI said these “meetings established Buryakov’s willingness to solicit and accept documents that CS-1 claimed he had obtained from a U.S. government agency and which purportedly contained information potentially useful to the Russian Federation.”
The Americans returns for its third season tonight, bringing with it glorious tales of the KGB and ’80s Americana. The hair was big, the glasses were bigger, and the teens — well, they were just as petulant. Here's your quick refresher on where we left off at the end of last season.
What happened in the finale again?
Every single person was sad. The Americans is sad!
Why were they sad?
Because nothing is easy. Stan is sad because he had to decide between betraying his side piece and betraying his country — and sorry, Nina, but he picked betraying you. He's also sad because he's getting divorced. But if you don't want to get divorced, maybe cheat less? Nina is sad because Stan wouldn't commit additional acts of treason for her, and also because now she's getting sent back to Russia. (We'll see.)
Remember how last season started with a family, minus their oldest son, being executed in their hotel room? That made Philip and Elizabeth just generally sad for a while. But what really bummed them out on the season finale was finding out that Jared, said surviving son, was actually behind the killing. Elizabeth felt particularly sad because she felt very protective of Jared, and he died in her arms — protecting her, but also confessing to a horrifying murder. Philip was sad because he's a sad dude.
But the Jenningses became extra sad when Claudia told them about a second-generation program — in which KGB members' American children are recruited for the agency. Jared was their first hopeful, but that obviously backfired (that's what Claudia is sad about), and now they want Paige. "That is not an option," Philip says. "Those are your orders," said Claudia. "Don't forget what's at stake in this war," she told them. "Paige is your daughter, but she's not just yours. She belongs to the cause. And to the world. We all do. You haven't forgotten that, have you?" They had not. But they disagreed: Elizabeth wants to tell Paige the truth and start grooming her for espionage, and says Paige is looking for something — recall that Paige is sad because she's now all into Jesus — and this could be exactly what she needs. Philip is adamantly opposed, and told one of their KGB contacts that he and Elizabeth would sooner defect from the program than let Paige be involved.
What about everyone else?
Martha, who herself is not sad but is sad to us, has a gun. And Stan had a weird dream about her, in which he saw her stealing files — which means deep down, Stan knows something is up with her. Does he suspect her of leaking information — or does he suspect her of maybe being someone who'd be sympathetic about the fact that he has?
Henry … has long hair. It's the ’80s, but it's still a little sad.
http://www.vulture.com/2015/01/where-did-we-leave-off-on-the-americans.html
Their BACK!!!!!!
I'm going to binge watch the first two season,so I can get caught up..
you'll be glad you did
Enjoy, my ninja. You're going to wonder why you missed out for this long.
Been watching the first season on Amazon Prime and have instantly become a fan.
Almost done and not a bad episode in the bunch.
Now one of my favorites.
Almost done and not a bad episode in the bunch.
Now one of my favorites.
I have to say Paige is secretly becoming the most interesting character on the show -
I'm not there yet she has been so damn annoying and irritating for so long...
They just gonna act like Henry disappeared, huh?
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