Thank you Spurs for FINALLY putting the MJ vs Lebron debate to rest… FOREVER!!!

[Fuzzy_McNut]

I cant for the life of me understand why everyone keeps making excuses for the "LeBron" effect? Every team he is on and he loses its not HIS fault its his lack of a team...what am I missing here?

He has as stacked of a team as you can have in the NBA maybe even of all-time!

He has the #1 3pt shooter of all time in the NBA, He has Dwayne Wade arguably one of the top 20 shooting guards all-time, Rashard Lewis...whom with Ray Allen were like "KD & Westbrook 1.0", Michael Beasley who was terribly under utilized, Shane Battier, Haslem, Anderson, and other players who would be stars on their own teams....how is that not help? Does LeBron need to have an Allstar team to win? Dudes talkin bout Mello going to the heat? Thats what he needs to win? Who in the fuck do the Spurs have if LeBron has "no help"?

Can somebody please tell me why people KEEP making this argument in defense of James?

he does need help far as coaching.....that was a terribly coached game. How in the hell you leave chalmers out there and he letting mills shoot 3's like dat

bad coaching right there

 

[BDR]

Bron won 2 chips he already accomplished what he wanted to do the moment he left Cleveland period

Get off the nigga dick already he controlling his own career and not letting owners run him into the ground until he washed up making him Expendable how owners did Ewing, Barkley, AI, Mcgrady the list goes on

 

[Fuzzy_McNut]

Who's at 6W-6L tho?


Niggas making up imaginary far-fetched hypotheticals to help their real world arguments.



Thats How Desperate niggas are to keep this Gay comparison Alive.

isn't you guys whole argument that hypothetically LeBron will never surpass 6 rings?

This dude counts LOSSES! Moving the post I see.

The more appearances means you was doing your thing. Being undefeated when you only have 6 wins isn't saying much.

How many years MJ played and how many appearances did he make....just 6......not to mention not even making the playoffs in Washington in a weak ass east coast.

Meanwhile Tim Duncan wins a title

 

[Solomon Grundy]

Difference is, Jordan never under Performed in the Playoffs, Let alone Finals. Lebron has.

Jordan Never Lost a series when his team was expected to Win having HCA. Lebron has.



Jordan has NEVER gotten the opportunity to get played single coverage for an entire series. Lebron has. The one time they tried to play MJ single coverage in a game, He scored 35 points in the 1st half, setting all kinds of Records.







At the same ages of their careers.

Lebrons VERY BEST SERIES (against mostly single coverage) ARE BELOW AVERAGE JORDAN SERIES (against doubles and triples).



BTW, I have to update this List, Lebrons Assists, Points, Steals and Blocks dropped from the time these stats were posted.

You're avoiding...the only stat that I have a problem with is the "Jordan is undefeated in the finals"...getting to the finals when one is in the playoffs should be included...it's not like he just "magically" appeared in the finals...pun intended.

 

[MC Brasil]

Facts are Facts

Jordan, Tupac, Jesus, Hannibal and Ramses,

sonic the hedgehog...

Brooklyn Baby!!

What bout the other Mike

 

[Solomon Grundy]

Montana was perfect in Super Bowls. Brady isn't. Brady is not Joe Cool when it comes to the Big Game. LeBron is not MJ when it comes to The Finals.

Yeah, but the pressure is HIGHER in the Finals, yes? It's supposed to be MORE difficult yes? You don't just appear in the finals? Like I said, Jordan is better than Lebron, but then again he's better than any NBA player ever...It's just when his "ride or dies" use meaningless stats to prove what doesn't need to be proven, it just urks me...you're the same guy that forgot he lost to Orlando AFTER beating the Pistons...this alone makes my point...I can predict the future too...you'll say that doesn't count because he only played part of the season or he was rusty...but if he had 7 titles instead of 6, because he made it to the finals that year and defeated the Rockets (which everyone just ASSUMES would have happened because he's Jordan), you would claim it instead of dismissing it...

 

[Simply Sickenin']

Adam Silver could end this whole thing with a swing of the pen.

Shit right here been long overdo. And seeing Jordan on the logo would go a long way to silencing all of the comparisons. ​

 

[l9ikjam]

Regardless of how many seasons he has left, he will still never be perfect in The Finals.

Plus he was drafted by a losing organization and turned them into 6 time champions.

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

This...people have selective memories when it comes to Jordan. Not only did he play, but in the crucial moments in the final game is when the ball got stolen from him...of course his faithful will say he was rusty...they will say this after of course, "forgetting" that he actually played that season.

6-0

have a good one

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

Bron won 2 chips he already accomplished what he wanted to do the moment he left Cleveland period

Get off the nigga dick already he controlling his own career and not letting owners run him into the ground until he washed up making him Expendable how owners did Ewing, Barkley, AI, Mcgrady the list goes on

Lebron has 2 rings and nobody can take that away from him period that's not up for debate.

However... now it's 2-4 vs 6 for 6.

You guys have a lot of decisions to make. 9 people leaving that team in the next month and wade ain't taking no shorts

 

[BDR]

Lebron has 2 rings and nobody can take that away from him period that's not up for debate.

However... now it's 2-4 vs 6 for 6.

You guys have a lot of decisions to make. 9 people leaving that team in the next month and wade ain't taking no shorts

Yeah 9 folk coming off the roster Riley will get it done no worries about that..

Shit if Wade don't take no cut then amnesty him simple as that... Riley can get gortat, Ariza and a few other folk there..

We will see how it goes but the heat can't go another season being weakest at the pg and c position. They already defied the odds by winning back to back with no center

 

[LordSinister]

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

Yeah 9 folk coming off the roster Riley will get it done no worries about that..

Shit if Wade don't take no cut then amnesty him simple as that... Riley can get gortat, Ariza and a few other folk there..

We will see how it goes but the heat can't go another season being weakest at the pg and c position. They already defied the odds by winning back to back with no center

Yup, they won and earned them but they are a manu brain fart away from being 1 for 4

I said yall needed Kyle lowry after yall won last year. You still need him.

9 people though.. just hope that lebron and bosh stay.. cause wade is making $20 million no matter what..

and if im bosh..why do i come back to be a #3 option to a dude who only gonna play 50 games and then hog in the playoffs?

they should be devising a plan right now on how to fix this shit.. who they need and everything cause man 9 people is a whole lot of people to lose in 1 year.

 

[BGLR1212000]

Adam Silver could end this whole thing with a swing of the pen.

Shit right here been long overdo. And seeing Jordan on the logo would go a long way to silencing all of the comparisons. ​

Ok man really?

 

[Joe Money]

he does need help far as coaching.....that was a terribly coached game. How in the hell you leave chalmers out there and he letting mills shoot 3's like dat

bad coaching right there

Coaching is really what separates Jordan and James.

Adam Silver could end this whole thing with a swing of the pen.

Shit right here been long overdo. And seeing Jordan on the logo would go a long way to silencing all of the comparisons. ​

I figure either Jordan or Nike owns ALL the rights to this logo. It would take more than Silver's pen.

 

[rebel]

 

[godofwine]

Man if you put this on LeBron and not those other sorry ass fuckers you are foolish.

From my big ass Note3.

he never lost in the finals..he didn't lose not once not twice not 3 times in the final

lets just hope everyone else shows up to help him

the reason for combining the big 3 is so that one man would not have to carry it on his own. What happened in this series was that LeBron did exactly that, carry it on his own, his teammates, none of them did anything to stop the Spurs and did no more have them a 2007 Cleveland Cavaliers. Dewayne Wade played like a shell of himself and Chris Bosh, I don't know was even playing?

outside of blaming the other big 2, why is it that the coach only played seven players? Miami's bench barely played, I don't know it is because the coach did not utilize them properly or whether they were inept, but they were totally useless in this series and when the starters went to the bench there was no help at all.

 

[November 17]

the reason for combining the big 3 is so that one man would not have to carry it on his own. What happened in this series was that LeBron did exactly that, carry it on his own, his teammates, none of them did anything to stop the Spurs and did no more have them a 2007 Cleveland Cavaliers. Dewayne Wade played like a shell of himself and Chris Bosh, I don't know was even playing?

outside of blaming the other big 2, why is it that the coach only played seven players? Miami's bench barely played, I don't know it is because the coach did not utilize them properly or whether they were inept, but they were totally useless in this series and when the starters went to the bench there was no help at all.

Are you actually saying that basketball is a team sport, lol? I think Lebron James and this guy in the photo understand that.

 

[junyloko]

El fuego what ???? congrats to the real spurs fans. Man on my FB page i'm roasting all these bandwagons and so called heat fans hahahhaa.


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[massdagod]

You're avoiding...the only stat that I have a problem with is the "Jordan is undefeated in the finals"...getting to the finals when one is in the playoffs should be included...it's not like he just "magically" appeared in the finals...pun intended.

avoiding what? I just states that:

Jordan never under Performed in the Playoffs, Let alone Finals. Lebron has.

Jordan Never Lost a series when his team was expected to Win having HCA. Lebron has.



Fact is, Jordan is 6-0 in the Finals.

Fact is, Jordan NEVER lost a series when his team was expected to Win having home court advantage, so that excuses the fact that the talentless Bulls (outside of MJ) couldnt get past Powerhouses like Boston and Detroit.

Thats Not avoiding.

Stop comparing a Player like Jordan to a dude who averaged 17ppg in the NBA Finals and someone who shot 35% against single coverage in the NBA Finals.

The stats are in your face. You cant compare Lebron to Jordan when his individual performances dont even stack up, let alone his Championship Pedigree.



FOH w/ that shit, Loser.

 

[DeadGiveAway]

LBJ is not MJ, however he will continue to compete and will have yet another chance to win it next year, nobody will beat them in the East

 

[BDR]

Yup, they won and earned them but they are a manu brain fart away from being 1 for 4

I said yall needed Kyle lowry after yall won last year. You still need him.

9 people though.. just hope that lebron and bosh stay.. cause wade is making $20 million no matter what..

and if im bosh..why do i come back to be a #3 option to a dude who only gonna play 50 games and then hog in the playoffs?

they should be devising a plan right now on how to fix this shit.. who they need and everything cause man 9 people is a whole lot of people to lose in 1 year.

Riley one of the smartest GMs and cold blooded you already know he been waiting for this for a while

 

[jasonblacc]

Riley one of the smartest GMs and cold blooded you already know he been waiting for this for a while

Riley gets way too much credit. He's not responsible for the big three. He hasn't drafted a good PG nor has he gotten Miami a rebounding bigman. He has had 3 years to do so and he hasn't. He should have gotten them help after last year if he was trying to start a dynasty.

 

[BDR]

Riley gets way too much credit. He's not responsible for the big three. He hasn't drafted a good PG nor has he gotten Miami a rebounding bigman. He has had 3 years to do so and he hasn't. He should have gotten them help after last year if he was trying to start a dynasty.

Bruh he's been clearing cap space and movement since they won the chip in 06...

His sights were already on Lebron just so happened they had room for one more max player..

And why shouldn't he get credit? Did u check Riley resume with the lakers and Knicks and now the Heat?

The heat defied convention odds by winning a chip with no PG or big man. And who were they signing last year? Besides Oden? They had no money to maneuver cause 9-10 players were in the books for one more season..

 

[Fuzzy_McNut]

avoiding what? I just states that:

Jordan never under Performed in the Playoffs, Let alone Finals. Lebron has.

Jordan Never Lost a series when his team was expected to Win having HCA. Lebron has.



Fact is, Jordan is 6-0 in the Finals.

Fact is, Jordan NEVER lost a series when his team was expected to Win having home court advantage, so that excuses the fact that the talentless Bulls (outside of MJ) couldnt get past Powerhouses like Boston and Detroit.

Thats Not avoiding.

Stop comparing a Player like Jordan to a dude who averaged 17ppg in the NBA Finals and someone who shot 35% against single coverage in the NBA Finals.

The stats are in your face. You cant compare Lebron to Jordan when his individual performances dont even stack up, let alone his Championship Pedigree.



FOH w/ that shit, Loser.

Jordan also never played against the best coach of all time either.

Jordan did under perform against seattle, barely could score that series

LeBron James is still on pace to have more rings then MJ by the end of his career. More rings beats 6-0

 

[jasonblacc]

Bruh he's been clearing cap space and movement since they won the chip in 06...

His sights were already on Lebron just so happened they had room for one more max player..

And why shouldn't he get credit? Did u check Riley resume with the lakers and Knicks and now the Heat?

The heat defied convention odds by winning a chip with no PG or big man. And who were they signing last year? Besides Oden? They had no money to maneuver cause 9-10 players were in the books for one more season..

Lakers aside.....Knicks never won......and he didnt win again until he got Shaq. That was a good move. Bro, Wade is the architect of the big three. Not Riley. They didn't defy odds the bulls did the same thing. They did it by having the best player and two top 20 players. Why should he get credit for players coming together and deciding to play with another, all while taking a pay cut? Thats not because of him.

 

[BDR]

Lakers aside.....Knicks never won......and he didnt win again until he got Shaq. That was a good move. Bro, Wade is the architect of the big three. Not Riley. They didn't defy odds the bulls did the same thing. They did it by having the best player and two top 20 players. Why should he get credit for players coming together and deciding to play with another, all while taking a pay cut? Thats not because of him.

Knicks when to the finals under Riley bruh

 

[KingTaharqa]

Jordan also never played against the best coach of all time either.

Jordan did under perform against seattle, barely could score that series

LeBron James is still on pace to have more rings then MJ by the end of his career. More rings beats 6-0

Jordan had the weakest Finals opponents in history. Not 1 "great team", not 1 squad that won a ring. That Lakers team he beat was NOT the Showtime Lakers and they wasnt even posed to make the Finals that year.

At the end of the day, Michael Jordan and his fans will be trying to measure up to Inkosi for years to come. It wont end til Bron's career ends. MJ has to use Bron's brand and playoff losses to stay relevant to today's kids. Thats the ONLY time he's mentioned. Its an old brand that cant do anything to enhance itself except tell half truths and outright lies.

 

[tallblacknyc]

Jordan also never played against the best coach of all time either.

Jordan did under perform against seattle, barely could score that series

LeBron James is still on pace to have more rings then MJ by the end of his career. More rings beats 6-0

ur right jordan juss beat the best pg of alltime(magic johnson), the 93 nba mvp (charles barkley), and another mvp(karl malone), can't forget the all time assist leader stocton..he also never lost to a multiple time championship head coach name pat riley in a series..damn that jordan guy really is subpar..ur right he never played the best coach of alltime cause he was busy making his coach become the greatest

 

[jasonblacc]

Knicks when to the finals under Riley bruh

Again, knicks never won

 

[jaybar82]

Me personally I hate the Jordan comparison to LeBr

Lebron is the blame for all of this...instead of coming out of high school and playing at the highest level he should've just played like a bum and none of this would've happen...

 

[Fuzzy_McNut]

Jordan had the weakest Finals opponents in history. Not 1 "great team", not 1 squad that won a ring. That Lakers team he beat was NOT the Showtime Lakers and they wasnt even posed to make the Finals that year.

At the end of the day, Michael Jordan and his fans will be trying to measure up to Inkosi for years to come. It wont end til Bron's career ends. MJ has to use Bron's brand and playoff losses to stay relevant to today's kids. Thats the ONLY time he's mentioned. Its an old brand that cant do anything to enhance itself except tell half truths and outright lies.

I remember when ray allen when ham on la for 8 3pointers. I remember the very next game the adjustment phil made. Derek was still guarding ray but he was on ball deny all dam game. So much so that I remember a frame where im like "there is only 8 people on the court...." and ray tip toed in the frame and he was barely crossing the half court line and Derek fisher was on him like white on rice. Ray was getting picks and good as screen and transition 3 balls....also phil put different people on ray allen

Patty Mills torches the fucking heat in game 5.....and no adjustment was made.....shit danny green and I think leonard torced the heat from 3 point range last year. They fucking just left patty mills out there....that right there is coaching


6-10 behind the arc

 

[tallblacknyc]

Jordan had the weakest Finals opponents in history. Not 1 "great team", not 1 squad that won a ring. That Lakers team he beat was NOT the Showtime Lakers and they wasnt even posed to make the Finals that year.

At the end of the day, Michael Jordan and his fans will be trying to measure up to Inkosi for years to come. It wont end til Bron's career ends. MJ has to use Bron's brand and playoff losses to stay relevant to today's kids. Thats the ONLY time he's mentioned. Its an old brand that cant do anything to enhance itself except tell half truths and outright lies.

at mvp sir charles, league leading 3 point shooter for that yr thunder dan, 1 of the top 10 pg in da 90's kevin johnson, a 6 man award winner cedric ceballos, 1 of the rookie of the yrs runner up richard dumas, a good scoring tom chambers, a block leader in mark west, a multiple time champ danny ainge and a few other dudes who that yr led the nba in wins at being a weak ass team..most of ya nigs wasn't even old enough to grow hair on ya nuts to even kno how good da fucking suns were that yr...dat team would beat dis yr miami squad in the finals..barkley would've made bosh his bitch on the low post, kj would've cross the shit out of charmers and than hit that sweet mid range j or he would've dunk it on 1 of ya weak ass centers, thunder dan would've lit wade ass up from the 3..cedric would've came off the bench and drop 20 on ya weak ass backups, oliver miller would've put lebron on his ass and say welcome to the 90's where real fouls are delivered, mark west would've juss put any weak ass layup in the stands..chambers would've got his points to as well as coke head dumas

 

[Better]

I always felt the Lebron vs Jordan comparisons were insulting to Mike.

I can tell that people have all but forgotten how great that dude was.

Lebron put up nice numbers, sure...

...but it's because that's his style of play. Jordan did Lebron for an entire season, and finished with 32, 8rbs, and 8asts. However, Jordan decided it was better to let other players do their jobs.

Lebron does too much, and when he needs them to step-up, they are used to play in a certain gear, and can't get themselves out of it.

A one-man show cannot beat a great team...

...don't care who it is.

As for those comparisons, they remind me of people who say Randy Moss was > Rice. They look at how freakishly gifted Moss was, and how easy he made the game look at times...

...and because Rice couldn't do those few things, Moss was >.

Sorry. That's not how it works.

When you look at the entire body of work, Jordan annihilates Lebron.

Kobe, Lebron, Durant ... none of those dudes can equal Jordan. They may equal or exceed him in a few areas, and that is a testament to their greatness..

...but NONE of them can do as many things as Jordan did in his career.

Lebron said it many years ago, 'You'll go crazy trying to be Michael Jordan'.

He ain't lied.

 

[massdagod]

Jordan also never played against the best coach of all time either.

Jordan did under perform against seattle, barely could score that series

LeBron James is still on pace to have more rings then MJ by the end of his career. More rings beats 6-0

Pop is not the best coach of all time.

And Jordan after baseball was never the same. (33+)

Both by the years they turned 30, Jordan was a far better player.

And "on pace" is not actual reality. So stop that silly shit. That's a hypothetical. Stop ARGUING FACTS WITH HYPOTHETICALS, idiot. Kobe was on pace to get 13 rings after 2002.