Tariq Nasheed vs Umar Johnson

Question for the board........I remember when Tariq was laying the ground work to make 1804, and he mentioned that he was going to have 10 houses/shelters built down in Haiti due to the earthquake in 2016; did he follow through with that? He was asking the people in the chat about what kind of structures would withstand the natural disasters down there.

Just curious.
 
Question for the board........I remember when Tariq was laying the ground work to make 1804, and he mentioned that he was going to have 10 houses/shelters built down in Haiti due to the earthquake in 2016; did he follow through with that? He was asking the people in the chat about what kind of structures would withstand the natural disasters down there.

Just curious.

Yep, he did.
He worked with a sista down there whose name eludes me. I think he may have bulit 10+ homes. She verified it. He's considering building more.
 
  • Umar can't produce copies of his degrees
  • He can't produce a business plan
  • He has NO background in running a business, which a school IS INDEED a business
  • He talks about himself in the 3rd person
  • He titled himself the Prince of Pan-Africanism (and used this self-proclaimed title to give himself uthority to call a tribunal)
  • Nobody knew who the fuck he was before Saneter & Tariq gave him a platform
  • He was on the phone with Imaginary Goons
  • He invoked colorism against Sara Suten Seti
  • He brags about being the most requested lecturer (unquantifiable) while Tariq turns 80% of lecture offers down
  • His GoFundMe is GONE with no explanation from him
  • He insulted Black people AS A WHOLE when he initially didn't get his 2 million he wanted
  • He had a herpes sore on his lip in HC2
  • He claimed he was celibate, then got caught up fucking a "conscious stripper" (whatever the fuck that is...)
  • He BLOCKED followers who donated money to his campaign when they asked about their money
  • He claimed to be a "direct descendant" of Fredrick Douglas, turned out he wasn't
  • Rock Newman almost whipped his ass for talking slick
  • He admitted after denying his real name was Jermaine Shoemake (which I don't know how in the fuck if his real name is still currently Jermaine Shoemake how he can earn a degree under a different name than his legal name...which therefore indicates that he's lying about his degrees...duhh).
  • He bought 200K fake followers on Instagram
DAMN!
 
One thing that bothers me is if you knew Umar was a fraud why didn’t you tell the people? I’m not saying he is until it’s proven. But Tariq had solid evidence that Umar was a fraud you need to inform the people.

Cause it’s bad enough you have outsiders exploiting niggaz it’s worse with pimp preachers doing it. I said the churches are some of the biggest exploiting entities in the hood. They make billions off of stupid niggaz.
 
Some of y'all niggas sound like some real life suckers da way y'all defending these dudes honor like a buncha heauxs. Da zeal that's being displayed in defending these dudes is downright disgusting. Muthafuckas really look at these dudes as father figures and believe they're above reproach.

It's the same way people defend Trump. You can admire certain things about them (Tariq can be funny at times) but I draw the line at following these dudes and hoisting on shoulders like they are leaders.
 
You just believe something without any sort of evidence? I'm not saying he did or didn't but stans lie for their heroes everyday

You are definitely on point here......I could have done a simple google search before posting my question just to find the following:

https://www.gofundme.com/helping-hands-for-haiti

It appears that this has been up for the past 8 months and has only reached 17% of the donation goal. So, did he use his own money to build the houses or what?

I dunno, but I will say that Tariq is not my hero; but I respect the grind though.
 
One thing that bothers me is if you knew Umar was a fraud why didn’t you tell the people? I’m not saying he is until it’s proven. But Tariq had solid evidence that Umar was a fraud you need to inform the people.

Cause it’s bad enough you have outsiders exploiting niggaz it’s worse with pimp preachers doing it. I said the churches are some of the biggest exploiting entities in the hood. They make billions off of stupid niggaz.

Because he's full of shit. It's not the first time he's turned on someone after being attacked. Not saying he's not right about Umar, but it's who Tariq is.
 
Yep, he did.
He worked with a sista down there whose name eludes me. I think he may have bulit 10+ homes. She verified it. He's considering building more.
That was Bayyinah Bello. I'd rather he actually showed us evidence than just have her say it. No pics?
 
You are definitely on point here......I could have done a simple google search before posting my question just to find the following:

https://www.gofundme.com/helping-hands-for-haiti

It appears that this has been up for the past 8 months and has only reached 17% of the donation goal. So, did he use his own money to build the houses or what?

I dunno, but I will say that Tariq is not my hero; but I respect the grind though.
Welp... Looks like we have evidence of two frauds.
 
One thing that bothers me is if you knew Umar was a fraud why didn’t you tell the people? I’m not saying he is until it’s proven. But Tariq had solid evidence that Umar was a fraud you need to inform the people.

Cause it’s bad enough you have outsiders exploiting niggaz it’s worse with pimp preachers doing it. I said the churches are some of the biggest exploiting entities in the hood. They make billions off of stupid niggaz.
When I said it they got mad in here. Let's see what they say to you
 
One thing that bothers me is if you knew Umar was a fraud why didn’t you tell the people? I’m not saying he is until it’s proven. But Tariq had solid evidence that Umar was a fraud you need to inform the people.

Cause it’s bad enough you have outsiders exploiting niggaz it’s worse with pimp preachers doing it. I said the churches are some of the biggest exploiting entities in the hood. They make billions off of stupid niggaz.
Did he say he had solid evidence or did he say he knew?
 
Here's Tariq's mother-in-law in Haiti in 2012

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:roflmao::roflmao: Damn...........!:smh:
Fuck wrong with you?

I asked a legit question. Anyone with eyes and a pair of balls could see Umar’s shit’s shaky as fuck. Sadly several motherfuckers lacked the balls to do anything but mindlessly cape for him no matter what he said or did.

If Tariq said he knew Umar’s situation is fraudulent, he’s just saying what many of us have been saying based upon how Umar’s acted around the subject of this alleged school.

If Tariq actually has some kind of damning evidence none of us have seen that Umar stole that money then I could see a point in asking why he remained silent.

So which was it?
 
https://www.theroot.com/i-was-wrong-his-name-is-doctor-umar-johnson-1797016800

I Was Wrong. His Name Is Doctor Umar Johnson


Michael Harriot

7/18/17 10:45am
Filed to: DR. UMAR JOHNSON
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A little more than a week ago I wrote two scathing articles about Umar Johnson. I called him a charlatan (I think ... I call a lot of charlatans “charlatan”). I castigated him for taking people’s money without showing them where it went. I said that there was no evidence he ever tried to buy a school or would ever build a school.


I was wrong.

It turns out that Umar Johnson is a doctor of psychology. The National Student Clearinghouse verified it for me late last night after researching his files. You can view the certificate here.

https://www.pdf-archive.com/2017/07/18/verification-certificate-148541533-2/


Here is my problem with stupid people and narcissists. They will argue their side of a debate just to save face. They can know they are wrong, yet they will still belabor their point. They don’t want truth or understanding; they just want to be right. Dumb people do that. It’s why Donald Trump’s personal mantra is, “Never admit you were wrong. It shows weakness.”

I have always said privately and publicly that I agree with a lot of what Johnson says. Part of my problem with him (aside from our disagreement about homosexuality ruining the black race and some of his more misogynistic rhetoric) was that many people listened to him because he said he was a doctor of psychology. Some people gave him the benefit of the doubt simply because of his credentials.

I don’t think “the white man’s degree” makes Johnson any more or less credible. He was the one going around calling himself “doctor.” If his credentials were fake, then, in my opinion, his foundation was built on lies.


There are opponents of Johnson who will say that we are now giving him credibility. His fans will say I slandered him and will want Hoteparations. Look through what I wrote about him and tell me this: Where’s the lie?

I call balls and strikes. I did not have a vendetta against Johnson; nor am I now an Umar apologist. I will admit that I use humor and sarcasm to make my point, and I know that it can come off as smug. Some people don’t like it, and I’m fine with that. You know why I’m comfortable doing it?

Because I’ll never be too self-important or high-strung to say I was wrong.

I stand by what I said about him. No one knows where any of the money has gone that he collected. No one has seen any evidence that he is building a school. I think he’s homophobic. I believe he’s a misogynist. I believe he inflated his connection with Frederick Douglass or doesn’t know what the term “descendant” means. I believe he had an affair with a stripper. I believe he mixes opinion with facts and sells it as truth.

I also believe that he has some good rhetoric and ideas. I don’t believe that anyone should dismiss every single thing he says because of the things I said in the previous paragraph. I do feel that he erases so much of the good with inane, unfounded, bullshit mythology and Hotepery. I believe he takes advantage of people who want to be taught who aren’t critical thinkers.


Ultimately, I believe in nuance. I believe it is possible to be a scholar and a charlatan. I would still like to know what happened to those people’s money. I actually hope that he builds a school for black boys. But there is one thing I must be clear about:

His name is Doctor Umar Johnson.
 
https://www.theroot.com/i-was-wrong-his-name-is-doctor-umar-johnson-1797016800

I Was Wrong. His Name Is Doctor Umar Johnson


Michael Harriot

7/18/17 10:45am
Filed to: DR. UMAR JOHNSON
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A little more than a week ago I wrote two scathing articles about Umar Johnson. I called him a charlatan (I think ... I call a lot of charlatans “charlatan”). I castigated him for taking people’s money without showing them where it went. I said that there was no evidence he ever tried to buy a school or would ever build a school.


I was wrong.

It turns out that Umar Johnson is a doctor of psychology. The National Student Clearinghouse verified it for me late last night after researching his files. You can view the certificate here.

https://www.pdf-archive.com/2017/07/18/verification-certificate-148541533-2/


Here is my problem with stupid people and narcissists. They will argue their side of a debate just to save face. They can know they are wrong, yet they will still belabor their point. They don’t want truth or understanding; they just want to be right. Dumb people do that. It’s why Donald Trump’s personal mantra is, “Never admit you were wrong. It shows weakness.”

I have always said privately and publicly that I agree with a lot of what Johnson says. Part of my problem with him (aside from our disagreement about homosexuality ruining the black race and some of his more misogynistic rhetoric) was that many people listened to him because he said he was a doctor of psychology. Some people gave him the benefit of the doubt simply because of his credentials.

I don’t think “the white man’s degree” makes Johnson any more or less credible. He was the one going around calling himself “doctor.” If his credentials were fake, then, in my opinion, his foundation was built on lies.


There are opponents of Johnson who will say that we are now giving him credibility. His fans will say I slandered him and will want Hoteparations. Look through what I wrote about him and tell me this: Where’s the lie?

I call balls and strikes. I did not have a vendetta against Johnson; nor am I now an Umar apologist. I will admit that I use humor and sarcasm to make my point, and I know that it can come off as smug. Some people don’t like it, and I’m fine with that. You know why I’m comfortable doing it?

Because I’ll never be too self-important or high-strung to say I was wrong.

I stand by what I said about him. No one knows where any of the money has gone that he collected. No one has seen any evidence that he is building a school. I think he’s homophobic. I believe he’s a misogynist. I believe he inflated his connection with Frederick Douglass or doesn’t know what the term “descendant” means. I believe he had an affair with a stripper. I believe he mixes opinion with facts and sells it as truth.

I also believe that he has some good rhetoric and ideas. I don’t believe that anyone should dismiss every single thing he says because of the things I said in the previous paragraph. I do feel that he erases so much of the good with inane, unfounded, bullshit mythology and Hotepery. I believe he takes advantage of people who want to be taught who aren’t critical thinkers.


Ultimately, I believe in nuance. I believe it is possible to be a scholar and a charlatan. I would still like to know what happened to those people’s money. I actually hope that he builds a school for black boys. But there is one thing I must be clear about:

His name is Doctor Umar Johnson.

This was the same witchhunt as the donations. Niggas swore he didnt have his doctorate and he refused to address it. He made these fools look up and pay to see if he was properly educated. Thus this ownage. I have a strange feeling this uproar over the donations will be the same way. But fuck this nigga. If you cant control your ego, the public will humble you. Hell you already have the gay mafia on your back its just stupid to risk losing your own supporters.

Be humble umar. be humble
fucking idiot
 
This was the same witchhunt as the donations. Niggas swore he didnt have his doctorate and he refused to address it. He made these fools look up and pay to see if he was properly educated. Thus this ownage. I have a strange feeling this uproar over the donations will be the same way. But fuck this nigga. If you cant control your ego, the public will humble you. Hell you already have the gay mafia on your back its just stupid to risk losing your own supporters.

Be humble umar. be humble
fucking idiot

I dont believe that this is what his hearing is for though. The board of psychology in Pennsylvania could look that up themselves, just like this writer did.
 
So Tariq ain’t letting this go anytime soon, which leads me to believe that one of Umar’s haymakers connected.


I see he's using YouTube now he must have learned that you can get donations doing live shows on YouTube
 
https://www.theroot.com/i-was-wrong-his-name-is-doctor-umar-johnson-1797016800

I Was Wrong. His Name Is Doctor Umar Johnson


Michael Harriot

7/18/17 10:45am
Filed to: DR. UMAR JOHNSON
382.2K
16612
yq884ehenqjwcafq7fn5.png

TV One screenshot

A little more than a week ago I wrote two scathing articles about Umar Johnson. I called him a charlatan (I think ... I call a lot of charlatans “charlatan”). I castigated him for taking people’s money without showing them where it went. I said that there was no evidence he ever tried to buy a school or would ever build a school.


I was wrong.

It turns out that Umar Johnson is a doctor of psychology. The National Student Clearinghouse verified it for me late last night after researching his files. You can view the certificate here.

https://www.pdf-archive.com/2017/07/18/verification-certificate-148541533-2/


Here is my problem with stupid people and narcissists. They will argue their side of a debate just to save face. They can know they are wrong, yet they will still belabor their point. They don’t want truth or understanding; they just want to be right. Dumb people do that. It’s why Donald Trump’s personal mantra is, “Never admit you were wrong. It shows weakness.”

I have always said privately and publicly that I agree with a lot of what Johnson says. Part of my problem with him (aside from our disagreement about homosexuality ruining the black race and some of his more misogynistic rhetoric) was that many people listened to him because he said he was a doctor of psychology. Some people gave him the benefit of the doubt simply because of his credentials.

I don’t think “the white man’s degree” makes Johnson any more or less credible. He was the one going around calling himself “doctor.” If his credentials were fake, then, in my opinion, his foundation was built on lies.


There are opponents of Johnson who will say that we are now giving him credibility. His fans will say I slandered him and will want Hoteparations. Look through what I wrote about him and tell me this: Where’s the lie?

I call balls and strikes. I did not have a vendetta against Johnson; nor am I now an Umar apologist. I will admit that I use humor and sarcasm to make my point, and I know that it can come off as smug. Some people don’t like it, and I’m fine with that. You know why I’m comfortable doing it?

Because I’ll never be too self-important or high-strung to say I was wrong.

I stand by what I said about him. No one knows where any of the money has gone that he collected. No one has seen any evidence that he is building a school. I think he’s homophobic. I believe he’s a misogynist. I believe he inflated his connection with Frederick Douglass or doesn’t know what the term “descendant” means. I believe he had an affair with a stripper. I believe he mixes opinion with facts and sells it as truth.

I also believe that he has some good rhetoric and ideas. I don’t believe that anyone should dismiss every single thing he says because of the things I said in the previous paragraph. I do feel that he erases so much of the good with inane, unfounded, bullshit mythology and Hotepery. I believe he takes advantage of people who want to be taught who aren’t critical thinkers.


Ultimately, I believe in nuance. I believe it is possible to be a scholar and a charlatan. I would still like to know what happened to those people’s money. I actually hope that he builds a school for black boys. But there is one thing I must be clear about:

His name is Doctor Umar Johnson.


Hmmmmm....:hmm::hmm::hmm::hmm::hmm::hmm:
https://www.theroot.com/we-fact-checked-umar-johnsons-hotep-tantrum-with-roland-1796798532


But is he a doctor?

This is the million-dollar question. It is impossible to prove a negative. Just as you can’t prove that I am not a Jedi and an X-Man who possesses the ability to fly, even if you’ve seen no evidence of it—I can’t prove Umar Johnson is not a doctor of psychology.


However, The Root searched every level of Johnson’s education but could find no proof that he holds a doctorate in psychology. But what started off as simple educational research has turned into a mystery.

The school Johnson claims he attended for his doctorate—the Philadelphia College of Osteopathic Medicine—also participates in the National Student Clearinghouse. It could not verify a degree under any variation of the name Umar Abdullah-Johnson or under Johnson’s birth name, Jermaine Shoemake.

Every doctoral candidate must submit a dissertation, and PCOM makes its students’ dissertations available online. When we looked through the university’s archives, we found a link to Umar Johnson’s dissertation, “The Relationship Between Self-Concept and Academic Achievement in African American Middle School Students: A Correlational Study,” which indicates that Johnson indeed submitted a thesis in PCOM’s doctor of psychology program. But unlike the other dissertations, Johnson’s was not available for download.


We then looked at the graduation-ceremony program for 2010—the year Johnson’s dissertation was submitted. He was not listed on the commencement program, even though he appears in the 2009 program as a doctoral candidate. In fact, we could not find any evidence that Johnson graduated from PCOM.

Mysteriously, a .pdf file of the program from every commencement exercise at the Philadelphia College of Osteopathic Medicine is available online, except for the year Johnson supposedly graduated. In addition, 99 percent of students who received a doctorate from PCOM have their dissertation available online, but Johnson’s is not.

PCOM also posts videos of its graduation ceremonies online—the school has cataloged them on YouTube in a playlist—except someone has submitted a copyright-infringement claim only for the graduation ceremony that took place in the year Umar Johnson supposedly graduated.


The fact that Johnson’s dissertation, commencement program, graduation ceremony and every other piece of documentation that would prove he graduated from PCOM with a doctorate have apparently disappeared from the internet is either the biggest coincidence in the history of histories or he just may not have a doctoral degree.

When The Root reached out to Johnson by email and Twitter for comment on this issue and others, we received no response by the time of publication.
 
man tariq really believes he's winning
he really believes he's hurting dude
he did the same thing with tommy and the coon got more popular
this nigga doesnt like to be questioned
his ego is just as fucking huge
 
We are going to be going into 2019 or even the next decade with this shit..
The Walrus puppet he's planning to buy is only going to allow him to extend the shit without saying his name
 
this dude is mad as hell
he's saying that he has to expose dude and that the people will thank him later
nigga thats fraudulent...you didnt give one fuck until he went at you
and hes really mad that you niggas want him to drop it
hes hot!!! lmfao
 
man tariq really believes he's winning
he really believes he's hurting dude
he did the same thing with tommy and the coon got more popular
this nigga doesnt like to be questioned
his ego is just as fucking huge

As proof in this thread, Tariq is daddy to alot of niggas as you can tell.the way they defend him, got niggas in here scouring the web to post pictures of his mother in law holding black babies in Africa :rolleyes:

The same imagery that Tariq used in one of the Hidden Colors about whites going over to Africa for photo ops is the same imagery his sons use to defend daddy Flex in this thread...ironic

Im a fan of hidden colors but Tariq is looking bitchmade the way he's dragging this out but he let DJ Vlad punk him into taking down the video where he tried to question Vlad
 
As proof in this thread, Tariq is daddy to alot of niggas as you can tell.the way they defend him, got niggas in here scouring the web to post pictures of his mother in law holding black babies in Africa :rolleyes:

The same imagery that Tariq used in one of the Hidden Colors about whites going over to Africa for photo ops is the same imagery his sons use to defend daddy Flex in this thread...ironic

Im a fan of hidden colors but Tariq is looking bitchmade the way he's dragging this out but he let DJ Vlad punk him into taking down the video where he tried to question Vlad
damn!!!
 
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