Taking Control of the Black Image

If black people wanna change their image in the media, then they have to stop watching the shows that portray them in a negative light. The problem is that alot of the 18 to 32 year old that the viacom and these other media companies cater to, don't really care about the black image and keep watching these shows. The guys at the top in the media company see the ratings, think that this is what black folks want, and they keep on putting it on the airwaves.

If things are gonna change, black folks are gonna have to change up, cause Mr. Goldstein, or whoever's in charge of programming ain't gonna do it. The thing is that most black people are comfortable with their media image, and see nothing about it that needs improvment.

Thank You !

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So we STILL are looking for THEM ( white supremacist ) to change . Devalue their world as they do ours, then you will be less effected by their racist propaganda.

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Why are you trying to place blame on the media when "blacks" are putting themselves in the spotlight for scrutiny. We are so quick to call FOX racist for giving more coverage to the Michael Vick case as opposed to the Chris Benoit story when the fact that he committed a crime remains. We are upset over television programming on B.E.T. that portray us in a negative light when the people on the opposite side of the cameras are black. The hell with writing FOX and all these other media outlets.

You need to get organized and start policing the black people in your communities you all feel so strongly about this. As long as folks have bills to pay ain't nobody trying to turn down anything. As long as our people are impoverished, crime will remain an issue. Fuck the media. Talk to the government. Talk to all these "ballers" who would rather buy $100,000 jewelery than give that to some hopeful college bound bound high school students who could really use the money. You don't need major corporate backing. Get on Youtube and spread your message instead of uploading some booty shaking video. So until we begin placing value on our self images and how we want the world to view us, nothing is gonna change. This shit will get worse before it gets any better. Blame yourselves.


You can't say "fuck the media" the media is the best way to stop and correct the wrongs which it has perpetrated against non-whites since its beginning.

Then you have the nerve to defend Fox News. Where's Fox's coverage of the black woman who was kidnapped by whites raped, fed dog and rat feces and forced to drink from a toilet. What happened to this woman is far worse than what Vick did to those dogs. You claim your not white if your not your one delusional black.
 
I Have seen a lot of good comments on this topic. But i can tell a lot of you don't understand or know the media by anything other than what you see without thinking about the motivations behind it. number one thing you forget is hat it is about money-not black or white but green. The research shows what we are watching so if more young people with money that they are going to waste watch silly programming then what do you think you are going to get. the advertisers want those eyeballs and that is what the networks are going to try and get. this is where you have to accept responsibility and look at black people in general and try to educate the youth on varying their tastes so that they support more educational, positive, and better programming that is representative of us. Don't watch a bad show just because it has black people on it because that is what you're going to get more of.

Now when you talk about news, yes the coverage probably is disproportionate but so is the crime rate amongst people of color compared to people of other races. The solution to me is not to keep crying about coverage of black crimes but rather we need to make sure we are trying to keep the youth out of these situations to begin with. Now when we start giving less of a reason we can really complain.

the way I see it, you can look at it and wonder why our dirt gets borught to light more, or you can say well this is an opportunity to clean up our messes and mistakes which we need to do anyway, but to worry more about it being seen is backwards to me.
 
I Have seen a lot of good comments on this topic. But i can tell a lot of you don't understand or know the media by anything other than what you see without thinking about the motivations behind it. number one thing you forget is hat it is about money-not black or white but green. The research shows what we are watching so if more young people with money that they are going to waste watch silly programming then what do you think you are going to get. the advertisers want those eyeballs and that is what the networks are going to try and get. this is where you have to accept responsibility and look at black people in general and try to educate the youth on varying their tastes so that they support more educational, positive, and better programming that is representative of us. Don't watch a bad show just because it has black people on it because that is what you're going to get more of.

Now when you talk about news, yes the coverage probably is disproportionate but so is the crime rate amongst people of color compared to people of other races. The solution to me is not to keep crying about coverage of black crimes but rather we need to make sure we are trying to keep the youth out of these situations to begin with. Now when we start giving less of a reason we can really complain.

the way I see it, you can look at it and wonder why our dirt gets borught to light more, or you can say well this is an opportunity to clean up our messes and mistakes which we need to do anyway, but to worry more about it being seen is backwards to me.



Your intent is good.

I too used to think like that until I saw the light.


Question...........

Do you think gays would allow programming that continually show them in a bad light and come up with the solution of turning the channel?????


Do you think Jews would allow programming that continually show them in a bad light and come up with the solution of turning the channel?????


Then why do you think Blacks should allow programming that continually show them in a bad light and come up with the solution of turning the channel?????



:confused::confused::confused:
 
Question...........

Do you think gays would allow programming that continually show them in a bad light and come up with the solution of turning the channel?????


Do you think Jews would allow programming that continually show them in a bad light and come up with the solution of turning the channel?????


Then why do you think Blacks should allow programming that continually show them in a bad light and come up with the solution of turning the channel?????



:confused::confused::confused:

CHUUUUUUUCH^^^^
 
i thank you for this info kaya. i also appreciate the different opinions. we are not a monolithic people.
 
How can a "super moderator" be so dumb?

You are funny.

It's easy to be a dumb super moderator. I'll give you the formula. Post good info then take action and do it. 99% of people post info, complain, etc. 1% of us take action and physically do things.

Hell I'll help you out. Why complain to the stations?????? Ineffective!!!! Your letters will go in the trash. Complaints will be ignored. Target advertisers and your movement might get some where.
 
one reason jews and gays get better exposure in the media is that they have members of their communities who care about them working in the media. Blacks in the media on the other hand ususally are a sick combination of Jigaboo/house negro. We need more people like Melvin van peebles in the industry to smack someone when they want to make the next soul plane or S.O.B
 
99% of people post info, complain, etc. 1% of us take action and physically do things.

I'm quoting myself because this thread has died. Posting is one thing, but doing something is different. I'm not doing this to say "i told you so". If you want to change the black image, you need to build a core team to do it with you. That will be the hardest thing in the world to do. Put it like this learn about the talented 10th then you will see what I'm saying.

I have the opportunity of making change because I've aligned myself with a strong core of friends. Now we are on this financial tip where we can make noise. Plus I formed an investment group on here where I can do damage with that also. Shit will take time, but change will happen.

All in all you have to find a few select people who have the same compassion as you to make your plan about changing the image of black America. People always give me shit for saying I'm trying to save the ones who want to be saved then I will come back for the rest. Everyone has the idea of saving everyone in the hood. I have the theory of saving the dude who wants to be save versus that dude who is on some hood shit. I would waste too much effort saving the dude who doesn't want to be saved. Once I save all the cats who want to be save, I along with the dudes I save would come back and save the dudes who didn't want to be save. I hope I came across clear.
 
I'm quoting myself because this thread has died. Posting is one thing, but doing something is different.

Death is only the beginning.
This thread shall now be resurrected like the Egyptian gods.


Rise O ye thread of old.
Bring forth thy knowledge to the masses of lost Nubian children cut from their mother's suckle.



:rolleyes::D:rolleyes:
 
:yes:
IT SEEMS SOMETIMES THAT SOME OF US BLACKS WOULD RATHER BE SEEN AS BEING SUCCESSFUL THAN ACTUALLY BEING SUCCESSFUL. :hmm:


Indeed... It's also a shame how being "successful" is acting and looking like its still the Victorian age (+ the technology).:confused:
 
:yes:
IT SEEMS SOMETIMES THAT SOME OF US BLACKS WOULD RATHER BE SEEN AS BEING SUCCESSFUL THAN ACTUALLY BEING SUCCESSFUL. :hmm:





That is a human condition that Blacks do NOT have a monopoly on...............


Wake up from the self-hate.



:smh:
 
I'll chime in on this again. Here is something I have planned. We all know that there are wanna be teen thugs on the streets, but I feel there are 10 times more brothas doing positive things. Mentoring is a powerful thing. Once I achieve some personal goals to get me financially stable and let the country know who I am, I want to start a country wide mentoring program for young black dudes. There are opportunities for anyone to mentor, but I don't see a structured program around the country for one. I think that could make a big change 8 years from the date it is started. If anyone wants to steal this idea, fine. It's all for the better.
 
Why are you trying to place blame on the media when "blacks" are putting themselves in the spotlight for scrutiny. We are so quick to call FOX racist for giving more coverage to the Michael Vick case as opposed to the Chris Benoit story when the fact that he committed a crime remains. We are upset over television programming on B.E.T. that portray us in a negative light when the people on the opposite side of the cameras are black. The hell with writing FOX and all these other media outlets.

You need to get organized and start policing the black people in your communities you all feel so strongly about this. As long as folks have bills to pay ain't nobody trying to turn down anything. As long as our people are impoverished, crime will remain an issue. Fuck the media. Talk to the government. Talk to all these "ballers" who would rather buy $100,000 jewelery than give that to some hopeful college bound bound high school students who could really use the money. You don't need major corporate backing. Get on Youtube and spread your message instead of uploading some booty shaking video. So until we begin placing value on our self images and how we want the world to view us, nothing is gonna change. This shit will get worse before it gets any better. Blame yourselves.

co-sign
 
Why are you trying to place blame on the media when "blacks" are putting themselves in the spotlight for scrutiny. We are so quick to call FOX racist for giving more coverage to the Michael Vick case as opposed to the Chris Benoit story when the fact that he committed a crime remains. We are upset over television programming on B.E.T. that portray us in a negative light when the people on the opposite side of the cameras are black. The hell with writing FOX and all these other media outlets.

You need to get organized and start policing the black people in your communities you all feel so strongly about this. As long as folks have bills to pay ain't nobody trying to turn down anything. As long as our people are impoverished, crime will remain an issue. Fuck the media. Talk to the government. Talk to all these "ballers" who would rather buy $100,000 jewelery than give that to some hopeful college bound bound high school students who could really use the money. You don't need major corporate backing. Get on Youtube and spread your message instead of uploading some booty shaking video. So until we begin placing value on our self images and how we want the world to view us, nothing is gonna change. This shit will get worse before it gets any better. Blame yourselves.

Yep - but good luck op.
 
Like other members have mentioned, I am also torned in my position about this matter! Don't get me wrong, I will help the cause and voice my opinion, however realistically speaking, does anyone, really believe those white kats r gonna give up the most powerful mind weapon they have ever created?
Like smokedacane pointed out, the trend is to get as many hands off the control of the media, in favor of generalized consolidation, not the reverse!
 
Your intent is good.

I too used to think like that until I saw the light.


Question...........

Do you think gays would allow programming that continually show them in a bad light and come up with the solution of turning the channel?????


Do you think Jews would allow programming that continually show them in a bad light and come up with the solution of turning the channel?????


Then why do you think Blacks should allow programming that continually show them in a bad light and come up with the solution of turning the channel?????



:confused::confused::confused:

Because unlike Jews and Gays, Blacks embrace this same programming that you believe shows them in a negative light. Blacks LOVE the way they are portrayed in the media. And therein my friend lies your problem.

Why would you rage against something you love? Just try taking shows like The Wire, American Gangster, and Rap City off television and watch how many enemies you collect. Yes, you will have a lot of supporters but your enemies will far outweigh your supporters I assure you.

In order for us to go at "the media" we have to ask ourselves, Is this what we really want? Or is this just what I want for my people? If you can manage to stop niggas from liking 50 Cent, 30 inch rims, BET and bitches with 50 inch asses then call me, I'll be glad to help. :hmm:
 
Yep The question is
Are you really trying to win, or simply trying to look good losing?

And most Black Muthafuckas are simply trying to look good while losing.

Very good thread Indeed.
 
Because unlike Jews and Gays, Blacks embrace this same programming that you believe shows them in a negative light. Blacks LOVE the way they are portrayed in the media. And therein my friend lies your problem.

Why would you rage against something you love? Just try taking shows like The Wire, American Gangster, and Rap City off television and watch how many enemies you collect. Yes, you will have a lot of supporters but your enemies will far outweigh your supporters I assure you.

In order for us to go at "the media" we have to ask ourselves, Is this what we really want? Or is this just what I want for my people? If you can manage to stop niggas from liking 50 Cent, 30 inch rims, BET and bitches with 50 inch asses then call me, I'll be glad to help. :hmm:


Why would you rage against something you love?


Conditioning.

That is why we need to educate our own, re-evaluate our value system.

However the media also dictates our likes.

e.g. Sometimes we hear a song that we hate.

The radio plays it 5 times a day for a month.

At the end of the month we end up liking the song.


Suggestion is a powerful weapon..................
 
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