Study: Blu-ray Will Rescue Disc Sales

[Jagi]

Study: Blu-ray Will Rescue Disc Sales

Washington, D.C. (January 8, 2009) -- Standard-def DVD sales fell eight percent in 2008, but a new SNL Kagan report says the Blu-ray high-def disc will soon rescue the industry.

That's according to an article by Reuters.

Kagan said the growth of Blu-ray will eventually make up for losses in the standard-def category. Trade group DEG (Digital Entertainment Group) said yesterday at the Consumer Electronics Show that roughly 10 million U.S. homes now have Blu-ray players, including the PlayStation 3, which has a Blu-ray player inside.

The group also said that three million of the Blu-ray players were sold in the fourth quarter when prices fell.

"We expect a resurgence ... over the next couple of years, thanks to high-definition," Kagan says in its report, according to Reuters. "Retail revenue should start to grow again in 2010. Sales should start a short period of growth as high-definition player prices drop below $200 in 2011 and Blu-ray really begins to penetrate the mass market."

Blu-ray players were actually available for under $200 in some stores this year. And Vizio announced yesterday that it will introduce a $199 Blu-ray player in April.

Kagan said Blu-ray sales represented less than three percent of home video revenue in 2008. But the research firm projects that it will grow to around 19 percent by 2011.

The Digital Entertainment Group, which includes movie studios, DVD sales fell two percent in 2007.

 

[synyster]

They aint rescuing shit until the price of movies go down!! $30 for a movie is just too damn much.

 

[DjMorpheus]

Resurgence in a couple years huh? That should coincide perfectly with the resurgence of PS3 sales.

 

[Jagi]

They aint rescuing shit until the price of movies go down!! $30 for a movie is just too damn much.

thats part of it. but they are more or less dating price reductions.

 

[sj808]

They aint rescuing shit until the price of movies go down!! $30 for a movie is just too damn much.

get out of the cave.... there's a alot of blu-rays around the $20 price range now. Walmart even has some for $10. Walmart also has 2pack blu-rays for $20 and $30.



On another board, dudes was discussing how they were paying like $30 for DVDs when they first came out. Its the samething in this situation.

 

[Jagi]

They aint rescuing shit until the price of movies go down!! $30 for a movie is just too damn much.

get out of the cave.... there's a alot of blu-rays around the $20 price range now. Walmart even has some for $10. Walmart also has 2pack blu-rays for $20 and $30.



On another board, dudes was discussing how they were paying like $30 for DVDs when they first came out. Its the samething in this situation.

i think people are forgetting that dvd players were over $600 for standard models and about $1k for so called high end for a lot longer than blu ray prices.

 

[Amajorfucup]

Yea ok.

 

[rNubb]

Everybody in this forum has multiple ways to watch a DVD. Probably 10% have a single means to watch a Blu Ray movie. My parents and aunts and uncles are just fine with their DVD players in the house and in their vehicles. There are more portable (handheld) DVD players in circulation than Blu Ray players.

Tech heads are impressed by Blu Ray players and the majority of them already own a player. I don't see an impending rush to acquire a Blu Ray player. Blu ray is still a frivolous purchase for most common folks.

I think a better idea would be a compression technology that would allow blu ray quality video to download or stream to a zune or ipod type device that can then input to a tv or monitor.

 

[Jagi]

They aint rescuing shit until the price of movies go down!! $30 for a movie is just too damn much.

get out of the cave.... there's a alot of blu-rays around the $20 price range now. Walmart even has some for $10. Walmart also has 2pack blu-rays for $20 and $30.



On another board, dudes was discussing how they were paying like $30 for DVDs when they first came out. Its the samething in this situation.

i think people are forgetting that dvd players were over $600 for standard models and about $1k for so called high end for a lot longer than blu ray prices.

 

[dwayne1376]

I just got both Narnia 1 & 2 off of Amazon for 31 bucks total.. Amazon has some disks for 25 and below.

 

[Jagi]

They aint rescuing shit until the price of movies go down!! $30 for a movie is just too damn much.

get out of the cave.... there's a alot of blu-rays around the $20 price range now. Walmart even has some for $10. Walmart also has 2pack blu-rays for $20 and $30.



On another board, dudes was discussing how they were paying like $30 for DVDs when they first came out. Its the samething in this situation.

i think people are forgetting that dvd players were over $600 for standard models and about $1k for so called high end for a lot longer than blu ray prices.

 

[rNubb]

Everybody in this forum has multiple ways to watch a DVD. Probably 10% have a single means to watch a Blu Ray movie. My parents and aunts and uncles are just fine with their DVD players in the house and in their vehicles. There are more portable (handheld) DVD players in circulation than Blu Ray players.

Tech heads are impressed by Blu Ray players and the majority of them already own a player. I don't see an impending rush to acquire a Blu Ray player. Blu ray is still a frivolous purchase for most common folks.

I think a better idea would be a compression technology that would allow blu ray quality video to download or stream to a zune or ipod type device that can then input to a tv or monitor.

 

[rNubb]

Everybody in this forum has multiple ways to watch a DVD. Probably 10% have a single means to watch a Blu Ray movie. My parents and aunts and uncles are just fine with their DVD players in the house and in their vehicles. There are more portable (handheld) DVD players in circulation than Blu Ray players.

Tech heads are impressed by Blu Ray players and the majority of them already own a player. I don't see an impending rush to acquire a Blu Ray player. Blu ray is still a frivolous purchase for most common folks.

I think a better idea would be a compression technology that would allow blu ray quality video to download or stream to a zune or ipod type device that can then input to a tv or monitor.

 

[Star]

Plain DVD's look just fine to 98% of the people
DVD players cost $ 18.oo at Walmart

Blu-ray player is $180.oo on a good sale


When Blu-ray players get to $ 18.oo and the discs cost $10.oo
Then I will go buy one

 

[Jagi]

They aint rescuing shit until the price of movies go down!! $30 for a movie is just too damn much.

Everybody in this forum has multiple ways to watch a DVD. Probably 10% have a single means to watch a Blu Ray movie. My parents and aunts and uncles are just fine with their DVD players in the house and in their vehicles. There are more portable (handheld) DVD players in circulation than Blu Ray players.

Tech heads are impressed by Blu Ray players and the majority of them already own a player. I don't see an impending rush to acquire a Blu Ray player. Blu ray is still a frivolous purchase for most common folks.

I think a better idea would be a compression technology that would allow blu ray quality video to download or stream to a zune or ipod type device that can then input to a tv or monitor.

your right.. my family and girlfriends family is is fine with standard dvd on a standard tv and hdtv (low end models).

after my apartment was robbed, i'm running a 360 and ps3 on component cables on a standard tv for now.

and guess what? its just as good for experience of good movies and games.

but just like the old sayings, once you go black you never go back? same thing with HD. i see the difference and enjoy it differently..

i miss my high def. big difference.

but its moving forward we have no choice about high def, its the new standard.. its just different as far as when.

you cant find a standard tv anymore. and the standard dvd is dwindling.

i dont fight digital downloads as some claim i do, i just fight the timing.... people are fighting a physical media upgrade..

it will take just as long for the rest of the world to fully adopt digital download...

think of it this way, people have more access to spend on physical media than they do to digital access..

no one is really buying tv's with yahoo, youtube, netflix.. they are buying consoles and boxes with digital features.. not a full out digital download solution

and if people go high def physical media and then compare to digital quality.. they for the most part will stick to physical media high def...

 

[DiamondDeuce]

Lets keep it simple.

At current price levels for hardware and software Blu Ray is not a "significant" enough of an upgrade over DVD for the average consumer.

Just like Vista was not a "significant" enough upgrade over XP for the average consumer to adopt wholeheartedly.

 

[Jedah]

Plain DVD's look just fine to 98% of the people
DVD players cost $ 18.oo at Walmart

Blu-ray player is $180.oo on a good sale


When Blu-ray players get to $ 18.oo and the discs cost $10.oo
Then I will go buy one

So u just made the transition from VHS to DVD?

 

[heiesuke]

I DL my BR HD movies, fuck that.

 

[Jagi]

I DL my BR HD movies, fuck that.

again this has nothing to do with the consumer market..

most people on here are asking for low prices to download free content..

that is not the goal.. if anything the downloaders are moving too fast for the market.. but its actually on pace for the consumer/purchaser

 

[veritech]

Lets keep it simple.

At current price levels for hardware and software Blu Ray is not a "significant" enough of an upgrade over DVD for the average consumer.

Just like Vista was not a "significant" enough upgrade over XP for the average consumer to adopt wholeheartedly.

agreed. many folks appreciate my high def home theater experience both visually and audio wise. but they see me as a techno-nerd and would never pony up the dough for a similar set up.

especially not when i see them excited to get camera version bootlegs of movies and they are just as happy as when i get a new 1080p download.....

 

[synyster]

get out of the cave.... there's a alot of blu-rays around the $20 price range now. Walmart even has some for $10. Walmart also has 2pack blu-rays for $20 and $30.



On another board, dudes was discussing how they were paying like $30 for DVDs when they first came out. Its the samething in this situation.

I'm talking about good movies like Transformers, Iron Man, or the Dark Knight. Yeh I can find $20 blu-ray movies...like Driving Ms. Daisy, but I aint trying to hear that.

I got my first DVD player(1999) 2 years after they were first released, and prices for movies were between $17-$25. 2 1/2 years after blu-ray movies are still $30. They need to hurry up and do some price drops.

 

[veritech]

I DL my BR HD movies, fuck that.

i hear you bruh...

 

[forcesteeler]

I have a Bravia XBR with 120MHZ. BluRay looks Insane.

I can understand why some people don't have BluRay yet. Its because you need a HD with 120MHZ Technology to see the difference. and most people have regular TVs and not HD

 

[synyster]

Lets keep it simple.

At current price levels for hardware and software Blu Ray is not a "significant" enough of an upgrade over DVD for the average consumer.

Especially when you can get an upscaling DVD player(up to 1080p) for as low as $99.

 

[Jagi]

I'm talking about good movies like Transformers, Iron Man, or the Dark Knight. Yeh I can find $20 blu-ray movies...like Driving Ms. Daisy, but I aint trying to hear that.

I got my first DVD player(1999) 2 years after they were first released, and prices for movies were between $17-$25. 2 1/2 years after blu-ray movies are still $30. They need to hurry up and do some price drops.

yeah but the players were still over $500 dollars outside of the ps2. by the time i got my first official dvd player it was a company gift with a free copy of The Perfect Storm movie. by that time i owned 2 ps2's. and still couldnt stomach paying for a dvd player cause of the price... that was back in what? 2000? 2001?

 

[synyster]

I have a Bravia XBR with 120MHZ. BluRay looks Insane.

I can understand why some people don't have BluRay yet. Its because you need a HD with 120MHZ Technology to see the difference. and most people have regular TVs and not HD

My boy showed me a James Bond blu-ray movie on his 120ghz LCD. That shit looks a little too real... 120mhz will fuck with you.

 

[Jagi]

I have a Bravia XBR with 120MHZ. BluRay looks Insane.

I can understand why some people don't have BluRay yet. Its because you need a HD with 120MHZ Technology to see the difference. and most people have regular TVs and not HD

Especially when you can get an upscaling DVD player(up to 1080p) for as low as $99.

and there are the two spectrems i'm talking about.. one is upscaling one is getting true hd..

once you actually compare the two you cant compare anymore you choose

 

[synyster]

yeah but the players were still over $500 dollars outside of the ps2. by the time i got my first official dvd player it was a company gift with a free copy of The Perfect Storm movie. by that time i owned 2 ps2's. and still couldnt stomach paying for a dvd player cause of the price... that was back in what? 2000? 2001?

Players were in the $200 range by then. The Toshiba I copped was $250...an no, there was no sale going on

 

[Jagi]

Players were in the $200 range by then. The Toshiba I copped was $250...an no, there was no sale going on

if i'm wrong and your right then that only says one thing..


i was one broke bastard back then complaining about the shit i couldnt afford just like some are doing now




yeah thats right i was poor and mad back then

wanna fight about it?

 

[synyster]

and there are the two spectrems i'm talking about.. one is upscaling one is getting true hd..

once you actually compare the two you cant compare anymore you choose

Agreed...but try telling that to the average consumer, with current blu-ray prices.

Cats just started getting DVD players in the early/mid 2000's and now there is a whole new medium and people are just not willing to upgrade. There was at least a 15 year span between VHS and DVD. A 9 year span between DVD and Blu-Ray and DVD's didnt catch on big till around 2001, 4 years after release.

Don't get me wrong, I think Blu-Ray is off the chain, but at the same time I feel they came with a new medium too soon.

Peep this interesting article:

Is Blu-ray the next Laserdisc?
http://wherethelongtailends.com/archives/dare-to-be-stupid-is-blu-ray-the-next-laserdisc

 

[POSTERBOY]

true... unless they're dumb enough to make the same mistake twice and start making blu-ray burners

 

[Jagi]

Agreed...but try telling that to the average consumer, with current blu-ray prices.

Cats just started getting DVD players in the early/mid 2000's and now there is a whole new medium and people are just not willing to upgrade. There was at least a 15 year span between VHS and DVD. A 9 year span between DVD and Blu-Ray and DVD's didnt catch on big till around 2001, 4 years after release.

Don't get me wrong, I think Blu-Ray is off the chain, but at the same time I feel they came with a new medium too soon.

Peep this interesting article:

Is Blu-ray the next Laserdisc?
http://wherethelongtailends.com/archives/dare-to-be-stupid-is-blu-ray-the-next-laserdisc

the difference i think is that studios are looking at the last physical media.. they are already talking about 400gb blu ray discs

laser discs was like introducing high definition vhs tapes

and movie studios never really married themselves to laser discs. if i remember at the time the biggest laser disc movie was Top Gun and a few broadway movies and black and white remakes and concerts.

 

[synyster]

true... unless they're dumb enough to make the same mistake twice and start making blu-ray burners

Blu-Ray burners have been out: http://reviews.cnet.com/dvd-drives/sony-bwu-100a-blu/4505-3212_7-31899197.html

Blank single layer(25gig) discs still going for $10-$20 A PIECE. Dual Layer media(50gig) going for $30-$50 a disc. In other words expect to see a nigga on the 6oclock news if he burns a coaster

 

[Jagi]

Blu-Ray burners have been out: http://reviews.cnet.com/dvd-drives/sony-bwu-100a-blu/4505-3212_7-31899197.html

Blank single layer(25gig) discs still going for $10-$20 A PIECE. Dual Layer media(50gig) going for $30-$50 a disc. In other words expect to see a nigga on the 6oclock news if he burns a coaster :lol:

i almost had a fit when i had my first coaster burning my first dual layered disc for the 360 only to do finally get it right and find out it wasnt even worth the burn....


fuck a fit, i was ready to throw folks

 

[synyster]

the difference i think is that studios are looking at the last physical media.. they are already talking about 400gb blu ray discs

laser discs was like introducing high definition vhs tapes

and movie studios never really married themselves to laser discs. if i remember at the time the biggest laser disc movie was Top Gun and a few broadway movies and black and white remakes and concerts.

I remember my boy having the entire Sade video collection on Laserdisc. I was like why you pulling out these big ass golden records for??

But laserdisc was broken technology because 1) They were too huge, nobody wants to be carrying around record sized movies and 2) they couldn't even fit whole movies on one side of a disc. I remember watching Jurassic Park and it stopped in the middle of the movie and my boy was like "hold on i gotta flip the disc". WTF!!

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