Stop blaming racism for the failure of black parents

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The thread wants racism to stop being an excuse, so it's not better to focus on the gun instead of bad parenting.

And, through all of your misdirection, tell me how mentioning gun control, blames racism for the carnage ???


 
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I really feel like you guys lose it when everyone doesn't think like you do.

Are you just accustomed to answering questions with questions; or do you simply enjoying trying to be coy ???
I did what you did. If you feel it's pointless then work on yourself.

But to answer your question:

You assumed facts not in evidence; that is, that I had not considered other possiblilities, as well -- merely because I addressed A Particular part of the solution.
I said you had not addressed it. We are in a thread about failed black parents. Not addressed does not equal not "considered" or thought about or contemplated or pondered or anything else. I used a very plain phrase but you intently assigned some ulterior meaning to it.

Where is the evidence/study of the "solutions by effectiveness" that you relying upon ???
The evidence that tools are things people use after they make a choice to use it.

Or maybe you're saying solutions don't vary by effectiveness.

Gotta love this one! So now you're clairvoyant -- with the ability to know what I'm thinking :lol: :lol: :lol:

Or, trying to pigeon hole my thoughts into your particular myopia :yes:
Oh, was that not you I've talked about this 20 million times already? I didn't realize I was supposed to pretend I'm completely oblivious to your opinion. Especially when we've had this specific conversation before. I don't need to guess what you're thinking, I can just look at the last 5 threads we already talked about it.

You can use any analogy you want. This time I used symptoms and illness, and last time I used cause and effect. Everything you've suggested in the past revolves around addressing symptoms and effects. I view anything other than addressing the illness or the causes as a waste of time.

And, through all of your misdirection, tell me how mentioning gun control, blames racism for the carnage ???
It doesn't and I didn't say it did.
 
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Like I thought.
 
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PRECISELY!!!


Which is why you regulate people

Who can and who can't possess guns

who can and cannot sell or transfer guns

Who must register guns







 
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PRECISELY!!!


Which is why you regulate people

Who can and who can't possess guns

who can and cannot sell or transfer guns

Who must register guns







Yea, according to his mother “He’s not a bad kid.” Damn that gun.

We should close that loophole where it's legal for a 15-year old to own a gun.

Who's idea was that anyway? Vote the bum out.
 
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Yea, according to his mother “He’s not a bad kid.” Damn that gun.

No question, there appears to be a stark difference between the mother's perception of the child and the child's actual conduct. That's not so uncommon, and its another American problem that needs to be dealt with. Would you favor a federal appropriation to fund a public service campaign aimed at raising family consciousness and responsibility; what about to promote education and jobs ???

But how did that gun get into his hands ???

Who was responsible for that ???

If it was his mother, let's deal with that.

If it was a neighbor, a fellow gang banger, etc., lets deal with that too.

Was it someone's negligence? - lets deal with that.

Was it someone's intentional conduct? - lets deal with that.




We should close that loophole where it's legal for a 15-year old to own a gun.

As I alluded to earlier, and you either purposefully overlooked or intentionally attempt to reshape to fit your narrative; responsible gun control which imposes penalties upon those who cause or allow weapons to fall into the wrong hands, is "A" tool that should be used. While the NRA was successful in not having guns labeled as dangerous instrumentalities, they really are -- and those who cause or allow dangerous instrumentalities to fall into the wrong hands should be exposed to civil and/or criminal liability, depending upon their level of culpability.
 
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Would you favor a federal appropriation to fund a public service campaign aimed at raising family consciousness and responsibility; what about to promote education and jobs ???
No.

But how did that gun get into his hands ???

Who was responsible for that ???

If it was his mother, let's deal with that.

If it was a neighbor, a fellow gang banger, etc., lets deal with that too.

Was it someone's negligence? - lets deal with that.

Was it someone's intentional conduct? - lets deal with that.






As I alluded to earlier, and you either purposefully overlooked or intentionally attempt to reshape to fit your narrative; responsible gun control which imposes penalties upon those who cause or allow weapons to fall into the wrong hands, is "A" tool that should be used. While the NRA was successful in not having guns labeled as dangerous instrumentalities, they really are -- and those who cause or allow dangerous instrumentalities to fall into the wrong hands should be exposed to civil and/or criminal liability, depending upon their level of culpability.
Once again, like I commended you in the Guns thread, this is a good post. Address the problem with people.
 
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(1) Like I figured. Just talk.

(2) I focused on People; you just can't handle the argument.

 
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(1) Like I figured. Just talk.

(2) I focused on People; you just can't handle the argument.

The problem was you did just focus on people. I said address the problem with people.

You promoting a behavior-focused approach is a new step for you. I agreed with you twice today in two different gun threads. What's the problem?
 
Three “Knockout” Attacks Reported In Philadelphia Area

Three “Knockout” Attacks Reported In Philadelphia Area
November 20, 2013 9:50 PM

PHILADELPHIA (CBS) — “Knockout” attacks have been reported in several states around the country and now investigators believe three people have been attacked in our area.

Police in Lower Merion are investigating two attacks in the area, and Philadelphia detectives are investigating an attack in Northeast Philadelphia.

It’s a violent crime that in other parts of the country has proven fatal.

Videos from cities around the country show people being punched and beaten at random.

The attackers are calling their crimes a game, the goal being to knock out the victim with one punch.

Mark Cumberland is a victim of a “Knockout” assault.

“Someone asked me for a cigarette and by the time I got my hands out my pocket I was getting hit by four kids.”

He says, “It was hard seeing and I’m still having trouble breathing and swallowing.”

Cumberland was walking out of a Fox Chase pizza shop on November 11th when he was attacked.

“There’s no reason at all. I mean, I didn’t get robbed, they didn’t take nothing from me. They just beat me up.”

Lower Merion Police say suspects Samuel Hayles and Markus January were arrested on October 29th, just moments after they allegedly ambushed and beat a 63-year-old man who was walking his dog.

Lt. Frank Higgins of the Lower Merion Police says, “He punched him right in the mouth and knocked him to the ground. The victim began to scream and yell for someone to call the police.”

A neighbor of the victim, Jeri Greenfield says, “I think it’s absolutely horrible. I think this is a beautiful neighborhood and I didn’t expect anything like that here.”

An elderly man was also attacked when he was mowing his lawn outside of his home.

The suspect in that attack is still on the loose.

Bruce Myer, a neighbor of the elderly victim says, “A kid came up to him and just punching him in the mouth. He ended up laying the street with his lawnmower.”

The only apparent motive in these attacks, as in all “Knockout” attacks, is to inflict injury on a random victim.

Myer says, “The kid did it on a dare. He said give me five dollars and I’ll knock that guy out.”

It’s very sad that before you used to walk on the street with no worries whatsoever,” neighbor Al Ciavijo said.

The elderly victim is now using a cane and a walker to get around. He has had to undergo multiple medical procedures.

That suspect is still on the loose, as are the suspects in the Northeast Philadelphia attack.

http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/20...t-game-attacks-reported-in-philadelphia-area/
 
Attacks around US probed for link to knockout game

Attacks around US probed for link to knockout game
By COLLEEN LONG | Associated Press
21 hrs ago

NEW YORK (AP) — In New York, a 78-year-old woman strolling in her neighborhood was punched in the head by a stranger and tumbled to the ground. In Washington, a 32-year-old woman was swarmed by teenagers on bikes, and one clocked her in the face. In Jersey City, a 46-year-old man died after someone sucker-punched him and he struck his head on an iron fence.

In each case, police are investigating whether the attacks are part of a violent game called "knockout," where the object is to target unsuspecting pedestrians with the intention of knocking them out cold with one punch. Authorities and psychologists say the concept has been around for decades — or longer — and it's played mostly by impulsive teenage boys looking to impress their friends.

"It's hard to excuse this behavior, there's no purpose to this," said Jeffrey Butts, a psychologist specializing in juvenile delinquency at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice. "When someone runs into a store and demands money, you can sort of understand why they're doing it, desperation, whatever. But just hitting someone for the sheer thrill of seeing if you can knock someone out is just childish."

At least two deaths have been linked to the game this year and police have seen a recent spike in similar attacks.

New York City police have deployed additional officers to city neighborhoods where at least seven attacks occurred in the past few weeks, including the assault on the 78-year-old woman. Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly said some are smacked, some are more seriously assaulted, and some harassed. The department's hate crimes task force is investigating, because some attacks have been against Orthodox Jews in Brooklyn.

In Washington, D.C., police were investigating two assaults in the past week, both of which resulted in minor injuries but not unconsciousness.

One victim, Phoebe Connolly, of Brattleboro, Vt., said she was randomly punched in the face by a teenager while riding her bike during a work-related visit to Washington last Friday. Connolly, who is 32 and works with teenagers in her job, said the blow knocked her head to the side and bloodied her nose.

"I don't know what the goal was," she said. "There wasn't any attempt to take anything from me."

While some of those attacked have been white, and some suspected attackers black, experts said the incidents are more about preying on the seemingly helpless than race or religion.

"It's about someone who is seemingly helpless, and choosing that person to target," Butts said.

A recent media blitz about the game circulating on television stations and online isn't helping, Connolly and experts said, especially because images are being repeatedly broadcast of victims in a dead fall, smacking the ground with a limp thud. The viral footage comes from older incidents: In one instance from 2012, 50-year-old Pittsburgh English teacher James Addlespurger was punched in the face and falls to the curb. The image was caught on surveillance cameras, and a 15-year-old was arrested.

"The behavior of the sudden assault of someone who seems helpless has appealed to the idiotic impulsive quality of adolescence forever," said Butts. "But there are now bragging rights beyond your immediate circle, when this is on television and online."

Paul Boxer, a psychology professor at Rutgers University who studies aggressive behavior, said Thursday the media stories may perpetuate the assaults, but most teens clearly aren't unfeeling sociopaths.

"You've got some impressionable kids, already with a propensity for violence who could be affected by this," he said. "But not because they are hoping to hurt somebody, it's more about risk taking, and new, different and exciting ways of getting into trouble."

In Lower Merion, a leafy suburb near Philadelphia, two attacks may be related to the game.

"We do worry that it's something like that ... because we've had two similar assaults, neither one of which resulted in a robbery," said Lt. Frank Higgins of the Lower Merion Township Police Department.

In one, two 19-year-olds were charged with knocking down a 63-year-old man out walking his dog the evening of Oct. 29. They were arrested nearby a short time later, and have been charged with assault, Higgins said. No arrests were made in the other incident from September.

Also in September in Jersey City, N.J., two 13-year-olds and a 14-year-old were charged as juveniles in the murder of 46-year-old Ralph Eric Santiago. He was found Sept. 10 with his neck broken and his head wedged between iron fence posts. Hudson County Prosecutor's Office spokesman Gene Rubino has said prosecutors believe the teens were playing the game.

In late May in Syracuse, a group of teenagers attempting to knock Michael Daniels out with a single punch wound up beating and stomping him to death, according to police. A 16-year-old was found guilty of manslaughter, and his 13-year-old co-defendant pleaded guilty to assault, admitting he started the fatal beating by trying to knock out Daniels with a single punch. Both were sentenced to 18 months behind bars.

And earlier in May, Elex Murphy, now 20, was sentenced to life in prison plus 25 years in St. Louis for killing a Vietnamese immigrant as part the game in 2011.

Juvenile delinquency experts say a good punishment for these teens would be empathy training, such as volunteering at a homeless shelter. But a New York lawmaker proposed a bill this week that would make stricter sentences not only for those who do the punching, but for those who publish images online and watch the attacks.

"These twisted and cowardly thugs are preying on innocent bystanders and they don't care if the victims are young, old, a man or woman," GOP state Assemblyman Jim Tedisco said. "Life isn't a video game. These are real people whose lives are not only being put in jeopardy but in many cases destroyed."

http://news.yahoo.com/attacks-around-us-probed-knockout-game-215216013.html
 
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'Knockout Game' Arrests
in Philadelphia and NYC​

Police in cities across the nation are grappling
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Police have arrested a 15-year-old suspect and are searching for a second youth in connection with a “knockout” attack in Northeast Philadelphia earlier this month, CBS Philly reports.

Officials say a 15-year-old male has been arrested, and they are searching for a second suspect for their roles in an attack outside a pizza shop on Nov. 11. The victim, Mark Cumberland, said that he was walking out of a pizza shop when he was attacked, the site reported Friday.

“Someone asked me for a cigarette and by the time I got my hands out my pocket, I was getting hit by four kids,” Cumberland told CBS Philly.

The 15-year-old, whose name has not been released because he is a juvenile, was charged with aggravated assault, criminal conspiracy and related charges, reports show.

In New York City, the Rev. Al Sharpton denounced the game at National Action Network’s Saturday morning rally, according to a news release sent to The Root. On Friday, four men were arrested in connection to an assault in Brooklyn, N.Y., according to CBS 2.

About 2:45 a.m. Friday, investigators said a 24-year-old Jewish man was surrounded by four men and hit in the face on 18th Avenue in Brooklyn’s Borough Park neighborhood.

The victim told investigators he heard one of the attackers say, “I’ll do it to this guy,” right before he was surrounded and punched, sources told CBS 2. The suspects fled the scene, but they were apprehended a short while later.


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As long as the government pays women to dismantle families, generations of broken families will create a progressive moral decline.

Fuck that shit. If men and women stayed together, probably no need for the govt help in the 1st place. But when you need it, it should be there for you.
 
source: Huffington Post

Marvell Weaver, Teen Playing 'Knockout' With Stun Gun, Shot Twice By Victim

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A Michigan teenager who assaulted a man with a stun gun was shot twice when the victim defended himself with a legally concealed pistol.

In May, Marvell Weaver, 17, was playing a variation of "knockout," a brutal and senseless game in which an assailant sucker punches an unsuspecting person with the intention of knocking him unconscious with one blow. The difference was that Weaver decided to attack his victim with a stun gun.

But Weaver, who said he'd played the game about six or seven other times, didn't anticipate what would happen next. The intended victim, a 28-year-old father who was waiting for his 6-year-old daughter to get dropped off from school at a bus stop, had a gun on him.

"I saw the van circle twice, and the second time three kids came out. I didn't suspect anything. I hadn't any enemies, or any reason to believe they would be looking to do anything to me," the victim, who chose to remain anonymous, told WILX.

According to Michigan Live, Weaver approached the victim and turned, pressing the stun gun into the victim's side repeatedly. The weapon misfired, and Weaver turned to flee.

The victim thought he had been stabbed, drew his weapon and fired two shots, striking Weaver in the buttocks.

“It happened so fast I wasn’t sure. I just know something was shoved into my side. I wasn’t sure if it was a knife, if it was anything,” the victim told police.

According to Michigan Live, Weaver told the man who had just shot him, I’m sorry, please don’t kill me. I don’t know why I did that. I’m high, you know. I just wanna go home.” :lol:

Weaver survived the shooting and was sentenced to a year in jail for the attack. He now regrets playing "knockout" and admits he got off easy for it.

"It was just a lesson learned. I wish I hadn't played the game at all," Weaver told WILX.

Lansing police said Weaver's story should serve as an example of the consequences of playing "knockout."

"There's a price to pay if they wind up doing it," Lansing Police spokesman Robert Merritt told WILX. "It's just senseless. Teenagers have a lot better things to do with their time."
 

But what's the connection between black parenting and allegations of
racism in connection with these so-called "Knock-Out" attacks :confused::confused::confused:

 
They need to end this sihit! Act like an adult, get treated like an adult.
This isn't how adults are supposed to act thoughtone. Definitely explains your "as long as you get away with it" political views.

When a 15 acts like this, it's nothing more than a complete failure by every adult in his life.
 

But what's the connection between black parenting and allegations of
racism in connection with these so-called "Knock-Out" attacks :confused::confused::confused:

Just like the first post in this thread, you can't say Mr. Charlie is keeping you down if you're committing acts of violence you could have avoided. Walking up to random people and hitting them for nothing is a reflection of bad values. Whitey isn't keeping you down if you spend time in jail for the Knockout Game.
 
This isn't how adults are supposed to act thoughtone. Definitely explains your "as long as you get away with it" political views.

When a 15 acts like this, it's nothing more than a complete failure by every adult in his life.


Definitely explains your "as long as you get away with it" political views.

Whatever you say "GREED"!


When a 15 acts like this, it's nothing more than a complete failure by every adult in his life.

Has anyone intimated that his value system is not cockeyed?

So the Tea Bagger is shifting responsibility away from the perpetrator.
 
Walking up to random people and hitting them for nothing is a reflection of bad values. Whitey isn't keeping you down if you spend time in jail for the Knockout Game.

Without question, walking up to and attacking someone for no reason is a very bad thing and is reflective of bad INDIVIDUAL values, but:

  1. it is not necessarily reflective of bad values derived from the child's parents. There is nothing in the article that indicates the parents condoned the conduct; taught the conduct; or that the conduct was derived from any parental failure;

  2. there is nothing in the article that indicates the perpetrators are citing racism as their motivation; or that the parents of the perpetrators blame the acts on racism perpetrated against them, their children or black people in general; and

  3. there is nothing in the article that indicates the teens claim their conduct is motivated by racism aimed at them, their parents or black people in general.
 
Without question, walking up to and attacking someone for no reason is a very bad thing and is reflective of bad INDIVIDUAL values, but:


  1. it is not necessarily reflective of bad values derived from the child's parents. There is nothing in the article that indicates the parents condoned the conduct; taught the conduct; or that the conduct was derived from any parental failure;

  2. there is nothing in the article that indicates the perpetrators are citing racism as their motivation; or that the parents of the perpetrators blame the acts on racism perpetrated against them, their children or black people in general; and

  3. there is nothing in the article that indicates the teens claim their conduct is motivated by racism aimed at them, their parents or black people in general.

Using GREEDS logic, this guy had terrible parents. Oh, where was the father?


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my issue with this article is that it talks about racism in the wrong context. racism is no longer just about hate. it is a machine. the numbers of high incarceration low employment lack of education in the black community can't be maintained naturally. it can only be maintained by a system.
every little detail effects the outcome. people act as if it takes a lot to destroy people. just removing a father from a home cuts the chance that child will do well in life almost in half. take away money from their school and you have another 20 or 30%. then treat their neighborhood like trash by putting little to no tax dollars for upkeep and you leave a child with a 10 to 15% chance of making something of them selves. multiply that over a few generations and the machine almost runs itself. how can you grow hope in odds like that.
humans are products of their environment. what we feel about ourselves is how we treat everything around us. the whole left or right politics thing is just a shell game to keep us picking sides and not looking at what the issues is. when has politics fixed anything. :smh::smh::smh:
 
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It is a lot of bullshit to me. And I would be very upset if I bought a car like that and that happened to me. Besides the hidden empty space. We live in a country that outlawed the electric car. The government and the oil companies were not interested in what was best for the people. They wanted to keep the people in slavery to them even if it fucked the world up more with more pollution. It is not about what is right or wrong. It is about the powerful against the powerless.
The 5% of us that know the truth and are bold enough not only to live it but to preach it and teach it. We are the ones that must overcome and save the world before it is to late.
Whites have built nuclear bombs that can destroy the whole world, yet they have the power to govern and control the whole world. They say who can have a gun and who cannot yet they destroy hundreds of thousands and millions with and without guns.
They say they are against drugs. But tons of dope hit the streets with their help and they make the largest profit from the drugs on the streets.
Blacks do not realize they do what they are programmed to do. And they are not programmed to do for self and kind. The blacks with power are the ones who promote a white reality and white values. It is like we never left the plantation.

http://oneblacknation.webs.com/

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Has anyone intimated that his value system is not cockeyed?

So the Tea Bagger is shifting responsibility away from the perpetrator.
Most people acknowledge that total responsibility for a child's action shouldn't fall on just the child's shoulders. Good or bad.

Using GREEDS logic, this guy had terrible parents. Oh, where was the father?
They were terrible.

Parents were completely unaware of the nature of their child or they were in complete denial.

Sandy Hook report: Shooter’s mom wanted to buy him gun for Christmas

The mother of mass killer Adam Lanza wrote her son a check to buy a pistol as a Christmas present in the days leading up to the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting, according to an official report out Monday.

Nancy Lanza — who was killed by her 20-year-old son last December before he killed six women and 20 children at the Connecticut elementary school — told friends a month before the shooting that she was concerned about her son. He had not left the house for three months, and he communicated with her only via email, she said. She was not allowed to enter his room.

With that said, stop using white people as an excuse for black people to be fucked up. How many times have I told you that.
 
Without question, walking up to and attacking someone for no reason is a very bad thing and is reflective of bad INDIVIDUAL values, but:

  1. it is not necessarily reflective of bad values derived from the child's parents. There is nothing in the article that indicates the parents condoned the conduct; taught the conduct; or that the conduct was derived from any parental failure;

  2. there is nothing in the article that indicates the perpetrators are citing racism as their motivation; or that the parents of the perpetrators blame the acts on racism perpetrated against them, their children or black people in general; and

  3. there is nothing in the article that indicates the teens claim their conduct is motivated by racism aimed at them, their parents or black people in general.
This is what's known scientifically as "He never did nothing to nobody but them boys shot him" syndrome.

People can't promote that they raised a child well, but that child still commits crimes. Unless that child has a chemical imbalances or medical issues, it seems obvious that he wasn't taught properly how to function in society.

Regarding the accusations of racism, there is a whole industry devoted to explaining away the entirety of the black condition as racism. Everyone black, who is locked up, isn't the victim of racism. It's not necessarily the accused or their parents promoting it, but it's not an insignificant voice saying it either.

It used to not be a controversial opinion in the black community that black people should fix their own house before they blame white people.
 
Most people acknowledge that total responsibility for a child's action shouldn't fall on just the child's shoulders. Good or bad.


They were terrible.

Parents were completely unaware of the nature of their child or they were in complete denial.



With that said, stop using white people as an excuse for black people to be fucked up. How many times have I told you that.

In many jurisdictions, some crimes by so called juveniles are considered adult crimes.

Why do claim there is some intrinsic defect in Black folk morality and whites suffer only sporadic moral lapses?
 
In many jurisdictions, some crimes by so called juveniles are considered adult crimes.

Why do claim there is some intrinsic defect in Black folk morality and whites suffer only sporadic moral lapses?

That's the major part of the machine. white fear. Michael Moore wrote in his book that he did not understand the level that the media built white fear on until he started to travel America. he said he watched the news in new york and saw a report on a killing followed by a drawing of a black man. and then flew to LA in less than 12 hours and then to Detroit. In each city they had a drawing of the black suspect and it was the same. he said this guy must be rich to be able to fly across the country so fast and kill all those people.
 
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In many jurisdictions, some crimes by so called juveniles are considered adult crimes.

Why do claim there is some intrinsic defect in Black folk morality and whites suffer only sporadic moral lapses?
Those jurisdictions are wrong thoughtone. Do you notice that I have no problem disagreeing with government whether I've voted for it or not?

I never asserted some intrinsic difference between white and black in regards to parenting or any action in general. However, there are differences in consequences between white and black.
 
'Knockout game': Growing or not, black leaders are denouncing it

'Knockout game': Growing or not, black leaders are denouncing it
After recent random attacks in Northeastern cities that played on racial fears, Al Sharpton and Philadelphia Mayor Michael Nutter are imploring African Americans to reject the 'knockout game.'
By Patrik Jonsson | Christian Science Monitor – 5 hrs ago

Whether or not the “knockout game” is surging in popularity, and whether or not it is motivated by race – there appear to be no hard data supporting either contention currently popular in the blogosphere – prominent black leaders are leaving nothing to chance and are denouncing the phenomenon.

What is clear is that the game exists, with recent reported instances in New York, Chicago, and elsewhere in the Northeast. Victims say it is played in a flash: A man approaches and suddenly throws a punch, followed by more. Nearby, his friends film the attack. When the beating is done, the group scatters, taking no items of value. Some such attacks have been fatal.

Sometimes the “knockout game” is referred to as “polar bear hunting,” a name that suggests the perpetrators are mostly black and the victims white, giving rise to the racial intensity of allegations that the attacks are spreading.

So far, however, it’s not clear whether the phenomenon is growing at all, with police officials in New Jersey last week suggesting “there is no noticeable” trend to the attacks, and some commentators warning Americans against drawing hard racialized conclusions from partial, anecdotal, and sometimes contradictory crime data.

Yet the “knockout game” is already playing on racial fears and raising concern that bad behavior by a few will be used by some whites to reinforce stereotypes against broader swaths of the black community.

On Nov. 11, Philadelphian Mark Cumberland, who is white, reported being attacked by a group of black men. “There’s no reason at all,” he told CBS News. “I mean, I didn’t get robbed, they didn’t take nothing from me. They just beat me up.”

Last week New York police charged a man with a hate crime for beating up a Jewish man, while other police officials recounted several similar attacks, including one in Hoboken, that left victims dead.

“The proxy war for a host of racial agendas has a new rallying call,” writes columnist Will Wright on TheGrio.com
The phenomenon has become disturbing enough for black leaders to begin wrestling with its meaning, and fallout.

“If someone talked about knocking out blacks, we would not be silent,” MSNBC commentator Al Sharpton noted this weekend. Philadelphia Mayor Michael Nutter addressed the issue on Monday, warning that city prosecutors will throw the book at anyone who plays the “knockout game.”

Responding to similar allegations of racialized violence and crime in the past, Mayor Nutter has put responsibility on black parents, a theme he sounded again on Monday.

“This is not a game. You can seriously injure or possibly kill someone,” Mr. Nutter said, addressing both black teenagers and their parents. “Your child’s life will be dramatically changed, and probably yours as well as a parent. So let’s cut out the nonsense. There are many other things that people can do to enjoy themselves. This is not one of them.”

To be sure, the knockout game, also called Knockout King, is hardly new, with researchers finding the first references to games involving cold-cocking random victims in 1895.

The lack of data conclusively tying the incidents to racism should preclude people from drawing inferences, Jeffrey Butts, a researcher at John Jay College of Criminal Justice, told a New York radio station on Monday, “because that encourages you to think about this as a racial behavior” when it may be more about “the age of the perpetrators … [and] social class.”

At the same time, police acknowledge that there appears to be at least a loose, social-media-driven pattern to some of the attacks. Experts say the game in its current guise may have originated in St. Louis with a group called “The Knockout Kings.” A judge in that city said that one defendant may have been part of 300 such attacks over a period of years.

The game may be gang-related, as well. One “knockout game” suspect told a local ABC News station in Denver that members earn street cred by “beating up white dudes.” To that effect, the man said, the gang targeted inebriated white men leaving bars and nightclubs late at night.

Such specifics are causing some black commentators to put aside concerns about political correctness in order to address a phenomenon with strong racist overtones.

“We can’t blame the ‘Knockout Game’ on racism,” writes Michael Cottman on BlackAmericaWeb.com. “This has nothing to do with racial profiling. It has nothing to do with Republicans or the Tea Party. It has nothing to do with white supremacists. It has nothing to do with ‘stand your ground’ laws. This is about an evil that has taken hold of some of our young black men, our sons, our children, and we are fighting for their souls. … [Black] America needs to take ownership of this problem – and figure it out – before it’s too late.”

http://news.yahoo.com/knockout-game-growing-not-black-leaders-denouncing-222526473.html
 
I blame crackers and brothers that protect and defend them like their family pet.

White folk don't bother me none but I hate crackers.

-VG
 
Those jurisdictions are wrong thoughtone. Do you notice that I have no problem disagreeing with government whether I've voted for it or not?

I never asserted some intrinsic difference between white and black in regards to parenting or any action in general. However, there are differences in consequences between white and black.

Stop blaming racism for the failure of black parents

However, there are differences in consequences between white and black.

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That's the major part of the machine. white fear. Michael Moore wrote in his book that he did not understand the level that the media built white fear on until he started to travel America. he said he watched the news in new york and saw a report on a killing followed by a drawing of a black man. and then flew to LA in less than 12 hours and then to Detroit. In each city they had a drawing of the black suspect and it was the same. he said this guy must be rich to be able to fly across the country so fast and kill all those people.


Michael Moore wrote in his book that he did not understand the level that the media built white fear on until he started to travel America.

Most of "white American" was in the dark about the realities!

source: Huffington Post


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As a close confidant of the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King and a dedicated social activist, Harry Belafonte had the opportunity to meet the soon to be commander in chief, who was on the presidential campaign trail at the time. But the entertainer said Kennedy was not very knowledgeable about the African-American struggle beyond the stories that were making headlines.

“When I met with John, I was quite taken by the fact that he knew so little about the black community,” Belafonte told NBC news correspondent Tom Brokaw in a recent interview. “He knew the headlines of the day, but he wasn’t really anywhere nuanced or detailed on the depth of black anguish or what our struggle’s really about.”

Belafonte agreed that Kennedy's original interest in the black community was primarily a political move, and said he didn't initially endorse the presidential hopeful because he lacked organic understanding of the community's fight for civil rights.

“I told him that I would not be in his camp until we knew more clearly and in greater detail what his platform would be in relationship to the black vote and black people in general,” Belafonte said.

Throughout his campaign, Kennedy fought to gain the black vote, a feat that proved to be rather difficult, according to Belafonte.

“I think there’s absolutely no question that not only did history do more to make John Kennedy than John Kennedy did to make history, but that history was precisely the upheaval in which this country had as its dawning,” Belafonte says. “The black movement was very vigorous and beginning to move into a place that really had him imbalanced. He didn’t quite know how to deal with us.”

Many historians agree with Belafonte, saying JFK did more for the Civil Rights Movement in death than he did in life. During an interview with Huff Post Live, Jeff Greenfield, author of "If Kennedy Lived," said Kennedy's assassination helped lay the emotional groundwork for the passing of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965.

"I think it would have been less successful and much tougher for John Kennedy," Greenfield said. "For one thing it was Kennedy's death in itself that provided a very powerful emotional lever for Lindon Johnson to say 'Let's get the '64 Civil Rights Act passed as a memorial.'"
 
This is what's known scientifically as "He never did nothing to nobody but them boys shot him" syndrome.

People can't promote that they raised a child well, but that child still commits crimes. Unless that child has a chemical imbalances or medical issues, it seems obvious that he wasn't taught properly how to function in society.

Regarding the accusations of racism, there is a whole industry devoted to explaining away the entirety of the black condition as racism. Everyone black, who is locked up, isn't the victim of racism. It's not necessarily the accused or their parents promoting it, but it's not an insignificant voice saying it either.

It used to not be a controversial opinion in the black community that black people should fix their own house before they blame white people.

Oh. In other words, this is what is known scientifically as, blaming black parents before knowing the facts.
 
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