Stop blaming racism for the failure of black parents

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By Paul D. White Paul D. White
Thu Oct 22, 5:00 am ET

Los Angeles – Growing youth violence in the United States will not be resolved until we find the moral courage to address the racial issues that underlie it.

During a Chicago school visit earlier this month to the site where a black honor student was beaten to death by a mob of black students, Attorney General Eric Holder stated that growing youth violence in America is not just "a black problem," but a problem for all races. The trouble with this statement is that it is statistically untrue.

Youth violence may not be solely a black problem, but it is primarily a black problem.

Consider, by race, the contributing factors of prison incarceration and school suspension. Blacks are imprisoned and suspended three times more frequently than the rest of the US population, and as much as six times more frequently than their white, Asian, and Latino counterparts.

The question is not whether young blacks, particularly males, get involved in violent incidents more frequently than other races. The question is why.

White and black liberals blame this disparity on a racist society that misinterprets and discriminates against black culture.

White and black conservatives explain these statistics as the result of less respect for the law, caused solely by poor parenting. They cite as proof that high-achieving blacks have been well-parented.

This is not a new problem. Consider a memo written in 1965 to President Lyndon Johnson from Assistant Labor Secretary Daniel Moynihan in which the secretary expressed his great concern over the high rate of out-of-wedlock births among blacks (25 percent at that time). Unaddressed, Mr. Moynihan predicted, this large number of fatherless children would result in increasing school failure, criminal delinquency, and joblessness. Sadly, because liberals across the board condemned this call for action as racist propaganda, President Johnson didn't want to risk heated public debate and so did nothing.

The recent Chicago incident, and countless others that occur daily, are the result of not heeding Moynihan's warning 44 years ago. The previous out-of-wedlock birthrate has almost tripled, and 7 out of 10 black children now grow up not only without a father, but also in disproportionate poverty. That means millions of young kids lack adequate parental guidance to make the transition to become successful adults.

So of course unparented black kids act up and get in trouble more. Any racial group would do the same. The starting point for reducing our nation's youth violence must begin at home. We need our elected public officials to acknowledge this.

President Obama – himself black, well-parented, and successful – has a unique opportunity to start reducing youth violence by addressing this key issue. The president needs to condemn the disparity in out-of-wedlock birthrates and antisocial behavior between black youth and their peers of other races. He needs to specifically address the habit of blaming racism alone for the failure to instill proper behavior in black children.

A specific call for black parental accountability would be a strong first step in avoiding future tragedies like the one in Chicago.

Paul D. White is a career public educator from Ventura, Calif., and the author of "White's Rules – Saving Our Youth One Kid at a Time."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20091022/cm_csm/ywhite/print
 
Why ask any politician to address a moral issue?

Moral issues are in the arena of the religious community, general public or the family structure.

Folks have stripped morally from politics.

For instance.

Conservatives don't want sex ed taught in schools and Liberals do. Conservatives don't like the morality of Liberals and Liberals don't like the morality of Conservatives so how can this issue be discussed by politicians.

Folks don't want the sort of morality that will reduced single parent households. We celebrate deficent homes and the hoes that live therein.
 
Why ask any politician to address a moral issue?

Moral issues are in the arena of the religious community, general public or the family structure.

Folks have stripped morally from politics.

For instance.

Conservatives don't want sex ed taught in schools and Liberals do. Conservatives don't like the morality of Liberals and Liberals don't like the morality of Conservatives so how can this issue be discussed by politicians.

Folks don't want the sort of morality that will reduced single parent households. We celebrate deficent homes and the hoes that live therein.

I agree on your stance about political figures addressing this issue. However, since I'm a conservative on the most part, I can comment on the "conservative/liberal morals" statement.

First off, there's no CONSERVATIVE/LIBERAL morals issue. Conservatives want what's best for EVERY American *well at least THIS conservative do*. The difference between the two isn't the so-called "moral stance". It's really policy wise different. The morals are pretty much the same.
 
As long as the government pays women to dismantle families, generations of broken families will create a progressive moral decline.
 
I'm sick of crime and hate. Last week in my city a 21 yr old woman was shot in front of her two children over a soda. Yeah she was a single parent, lived in the projects and it was prolly gang related. Having said that her parents grew up in the south, uneducated, probably dirt poor during the sixties, when Blacks were still openly treated like 3/4 humans there is no way they could instill middle class values in her. Racism is the only thing that can be blamed.
 
I agree on your stance about political figures addressing this issue. However, since I'm a conservative on the most part, I can comment on the "conservative/liberal morals" statement.

First off, there's no CONSERVATIVE/LIBERAL morals issue. Conservatives want what's best for EVERY American *well at least THIS conservative do*. The difference between the two isn't the so-called "moral stance". It's really policy wise different. The morals are pretty much the same.

I can appreciate your stance, but I hope you know that what most Conservatives think is best for EVERY American, doesn't necessarily apply to EVERY American. Actually, it applies to fewer and fewer Americans day by day, and will only increase with time as the demographics of this country continue to change.

Difference in policy between the two parties, is fine. But when you have ideology and religion shaping your policies, thats when I have a problem.
 
I can appreciate your stance, but I hope you know that what most Conservatives think is best for EVERY American, doesn't necessarily apply to EVERY American. Actually, it applies to fewer and fewer Americans day by day, and will only increase with time as the demographics of this country continue to change.

Difference in policy between the two parties, is fine. But when you have ideology and religion shaping your policies, thats when I have a problem.

See, that's the myth.

I can't speak for any other conservative, but I became one because I believe that every person has the ability to be great. In fact, I believe that people come to America because they want to have the opportunity to become prosperous. The sad thing is, there's nobody in elected office that's motivates the population.

I believe that right now *the 2000's* will be remembered as the time of weak leadership. Bush was weak with words, Obama is weak with action. Just think if we could mix there two strengths what type of leader we will have....

*edit* When is *right, or wrong* became about religion, in regards, to policy?
 
I'm sick of crime and hate. Last week in my city a 21 yr old woman was shot in front of her two children over a soda. Yeah she was a single parent, lived in the projects and it was prolly gang related. Having said that her parents grew up in the south, uneducated, probably dirt poor during the sixties, when Blacks were still openly treated like 3/4 humans there is no way they could instill middle class values in her. Racism is the only thing that can be blamed.

Racism? No, the pieces of shit who shot that broad are to blame. They killed a "soft target". They would've thought twice before approaching someone with clout who could either kill their asses, or have them killed. Who else but the offspring of a crack head will kill someone over a soda? Racism was more "in your face" when my parents grew up (50s and 60s) and there wasn't fuckery of that level taking place. Those niggas were just pieces of shit and should be killed by that woman's next of kin.
 
Racism? No, the pieces of shit who shot that broad are to blame. They killed a "soft target". They would've thought twice before approaching someone with clout who could either kill their asses, or have them killed. Who else but the offspring of a crack head will kill someone over a soda? Racism was more "in your face" when my parents grew up (50s and 60s) and there wasn't fuckery of that level taking place. Those niggas were just pieces of shit and should be killed by that woman's next of kin.

Functionalism holds that everyone and everything in society, no matter how strange it may seem, serves a purpose. Crime, for example, is viewed almost universally as a nuisance. Functionalists, however, point out that crime serves several purposes. Crime creates the need for the employment of police officers, criminal investigators, prosecutors, defense attorneys, lawmakers and other related fields of work. If crime were to suddenly disappear from the planet, hundreds of thousands of jobs related to the existence of crime would no longer be necessary, and everyone in those positions would face unemployment. It is also suggested that the existence of crime is functional in its ability to rally families and communities together around a common purpose.


Those kids behavior was learned. It was instilled in them for a reason. Since Whites are the architects of this society racism is the only thing that can be blamed.
 
Chicago Police Swarm Mag Mile ‘Wilding’ Scene, Make Several Arrests

Whenever I see shit like this, I always try to figure out the moral argument against arresting the parents too.

I usually can't think of anything.



Chicago Police Swarm Mag Mile ‘Wilding’ Scene, Make Several Arrests
March 30, 2013 8:39 PM

(CBS) — Chicago police made several arrests Saturday evening following another “wilding” scene instigated by young people along the Magnificent Mile.

Photographers shot chaotic video of police officers and vehicles swarming Michigan Avenue near Huron and detaining several young people around 7:30 p.m. Some of the disturbance leaked onto Chicago Avenue near State Street on a relatively warm night with temperatures in the 50s.

Chicago Police News Affairs confirmed officers arrested “a number of offenders” and said charges were pending. Details weren’t available.

But community activist Andrew Holmes, who happened to be shopping with a relative in the upscale retail district, described a scene in which hundreds of young people misbehaved, with some of them harassing and attacking people on the street.

“They assaulted a Chicago police officer who was on a mounted horse. And all of a sudden, they assaulted the citizens walking the streets – just normal citizens shopping, enjoying the weather,” Holmes told CBS 2’s Chris Martinez. “I caution those parents if their child has been arrested … You need to think about your child. Just don’t say the Chicago police picked on your child, when we watched all the assault going on, especially by teen women.”

Chicago’s Michigan Avenue and nearby retail strips were beset by numerous wilding, or “youth mob,” episodes the past two summers.

The phenomenon continues in Chicago and its suburbs. In February, a disturbance broke out at Ford City Mall after a meet-and-greet appearance by the boy band Mindless Behavior. A mall official blamed groups of “older youths” and said it had nothing to do with the event.

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/03/30/breaking-chicago-police-swarm-mag-mile-wilding-scene/


28 arrests after downtown disturbance, El attack
By Jeremy Gorner and Adam Sege
Tribune reporters
6:48 a.m. CDT, March 31, 2013

Nearly 30 people were arrested downtown on Saturday night for disturbances that ranged from bumping into passersby on sidewalks to attacking passengers aboard a CTA train, authorities said, citing preliminary information.

Seventeen of the people in custody -- all but two younger than 18 -- were charged with misdemeanor reckless conduct, said Chicago Police Department News Affairs Officer Hector Alfaro.

Those arrests happened on the Magnificent Mile near North Michigan Avenue and East Erie Street between 7 p.m. and about 7:40 p.m., authorities said. The suspects were alleged to have bumped into other people on the sidewalks, blocked sidewalks and traffic on the street and started fights.

No injuries were reported.

In a separate incident, police arrested 11 teens at the CTA’s State/Lake station in The Loop about 6:35 p.m. after the group attacked two women on an elevated train car, authorities said, citing preliminary information.

The incident started when a woman on the El asked one of the teens to put out a cigarette, authorities said, citing preliminary information. The group of teenagers then allegedly attacked that woman and another woman on the train before running onto the El platform with the purse belonging to one of the victims.

Officers arrested the teens as they attempted to leave the station, authorities said.

The 11 teens, all but one of whom are younger than 18, told police they had agreed on Twitter to meet downtown. It appeared that several of those arrested had not met in person before Saturday, authorities said.

The two victims were bruised during the attack but were in good condition and declined medical treatment.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...sturbances-20130330,0,2297490.story?track=rss
 
Girl arrested in Central Park mugging

Girl arrested in Central Park mugging
Posted: Apr 25, 2013 5:56 AM CDT Updated: Apr 26, 2013 6:40 AM CDT
By KATHY CARVAJAL, Web Producer

NEW YORK (MYFOXNY) - One of three children the NYPD had been looking for in connection with an attempted mugging in Central Park was arrested, said police.

The 13-year-old girl was taken into custody early Friday.

The victim, a 38-year-old woman, was in the area of Fifth Ave. and East 107th Street when she was approached by a girl demanding her cell phone Monday night, police said.

When the woman refused, a second child grabbed her pocketbook, but was unable to pull it away.

The children and a third person ran off. Surveillance photos of the trio were released on Thursday.

Police describe suspect number one as a black girl, 12 to 14, approximately 4 feet 10 inches tall, and wearing a black jacket with a red hood and a braided pony tail.

The second suspect is described as a 10- to 11-year-old black boy, 4 feet 5 inches tall, and wearing a beige striped fleece.

A third person wanted for questioning was wearing a purple shirt. She is described by police as black and approximately 14 years old.

http://www.myfoxny.com/story/22073625/2-children-wanted-for-central-park-robbery
 
I agree on your stance about political figures addressing this issue. However, since I'm a conservative on the most part, I can comment on the "conservative/liberal morals" statement.

First off, there's no CONSERVATIVE/LIBERAL morals issue. Conservatives want what's best for EVERY American *well at least THIS conservative do*. The difference between the two isn't the so-called "moral stance". It's really policy wise different. The morals are pretty much the same.

This might have been AAA's most reasoned and reasonable post ever.
I disagree but he was trying to not be crazy.

See, that's the myth.

I can't speak for any other conservative, but I became one because I believe that every person has the ability to be great. In fact, I believe that people come to America because they want to have the opportunity to become prosperous. The sad thing is, there's nobody in elected office that's motivates the population.

I believe that right now *the 2000's* will be remembered as the time of weak leadership. Bush was weak with words, Obama is weak with action. Just think if we could mix there two strengths what type of leader we will have....

*edit* When is *right, or wrong* became about religion, in regards, to policy?

This is where I disagree.
In the history of the conservative movement, they've stood against abolition, Reconstruction, women's suffrage, and any and all civil rights for minorities. So when did they believe in everyone having the opportunity to become prosperous. On every issue, the only people they stalwartly stand by is wealthy, White men. Anyone else benefitting is incidental at best, accidental at worst.
I don't have a problem with a Black man/woman being a Republican but there is no reason for any one that's not a wealthy, White man to be a conservative.
 
I did not really read all of what was posted. But whites created a reality for everyone to live by. And if people look at family life the way they programmed for you to look at it they know they still got you. A black male is first a man. The devil will try to buy your soul or manhood and give you a white reality to live by, where you may never know you gave up your manhood for a kingdom or praise from a reality that is not of your nature.

There are 2 things I know are a reality. We will never be free as long as our mouth is in the white man's kitchen. And we will never get our true identity back until we finally separate and start thinking for ourselves.

http://oneblacknation.webs.com/

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A speech from the black President will not automatically instill parenting skills into black youth. Nor will new gun laws, banning abortion, affirmative action, bootstraps (to pull thy self up from), or any other political tagline, talking point, or statement from someone who doesn't come from that environment.

- Parents fail in those areas because THEY DONT KNOW HOW TO PARENT. You may get a male who verbally abuses his daughters, but thinks he's a good father because he's staying with the baby mama (unlike his father). You may get a mother, who lets her son smoke weed, but thinks she's a good mother because she's keeping him off the streets and away from crack...

I can name plenty of other examples, but the overall point is they dont know any better, because they have not seen or experienced anything better. The only example they have in regards to parenting is THEIR parents/grandparents, who grew up as 2nd Class Citizens, during the Civil Rights movement, or the Crack epidemic. And in each of those instances, the parents were probably poor, uneducated, or non-existent. So as a result you get this messed up cycle that cant stop on it's own.

What needs to happen:

1) Those kids can pick up pretty early that the teachers, schools, police, etc. dont give a damn about them (I'm talking elementary school). Being loving and caring to those kids isnt going to help either (it's either going to allow them to take advantage of you, or make them weak in their environment). You need to make them aware of the system that they are in. The sooner they understand that where they live is "DESIGNED" to keep them there, and why. The better off they will be because they wont see their environment as their home, they'll see it as a systematic trap (which it is).

2) The kids need to be exposed to something other than their environment. I dont know how this can be done, but the sooner they see a better life is within their reach, the sooner they will strive for it.

3) Education needs to be tied to Welfare. Let me say that again... EDUCATION NEEDS TO BE TIED TO WELFARE! To recieve benefits you must attend:

- classes on parenting
- classes on maintaining a clean home
- classes on cooking meals at home
- classes on hygiene and étiquette

And each of these classes need to cover how "the parents way" is messing up their children. They need to be made fully aware of how verbal abuse at a young age effects self esteem, how smoking around your babies can effect development, how having a filthy house can result in disease... etc.

I can go on all day, and there are plenty other contributing factors that can be addressed here. However, if you introduce just these 3 things, I guarantee you will begin to see results, and hopefully you'll have less welfare recipients with the next generation...

/rant
 
Fight between mothers prompts one son to kill another

Fight between mothers prompts one son to kill another
May 15, 2013 5:34PM

A dispute between two mothers outside their South Side homes escalated into a fight between their two families, leading one woman’s son to run over and kill the other woman’s son, authorities said.

Aaron Payne, 28, of Homewood, was charged with one count of first-degree murder for running over and killing 26-year-old Andrew Prather back in April, authorities said. Their mothers began feuding after Payne’s mother accused Prather’s mother of nearly striking her while driving.

http://www.suntimes.com/20134361-460/fight-between-mothers-prompts-one-son-to-kill-another.html
 
15-year-old held on $900,000 bail in shooting of 7-year-old

15-year-old held on $900,000 bail in shooting of 7-year-old
BY RUMMANA HUSSAIN AND STEFANO ESPOSITO Staff Reporters
August 20, 2013 6:38AM

A juvenile charged with shooting a 7-year-old boy over the weekend had been on electronic monitoring for a pending drug case when he allegedly opened fire near a Garfield Park school and wounded the child.

It was the GPS tracker on Lavante Jackson’s ankle bracelet that helped authorities pin down that the 15-year-old had been near the Sumner Math & Science Academy seconds before bullets struck Tyvion Jackson in the chest and arm at 9 p.m. Sunday night, Assistant Cook County State’s Attorney Amanda Pillsbury said. Tyvion Jackson and Lavante Jackson aren’t related.

Lavante Jackson had been ordered to adhere to a 2 p.m. curfew while his case was pending in juvenile court, Pillsbury said. He was charged as an adult in the shooting.

Tyvion, who had just finished a bicycle ride with his 11-year-old cousin when he was injured, was taken to the hospital but was home recovering on Monday. “He’s OK,” Tyvion’s mother, Tasha McDuffie, said Monday. “He’s mentally shook up.”

While Tyvion was putting his bike inside the house near the 4200 block of West 5th, his cousin saw Lavante Jackson on a bicycle near the school with others when a car pulled up with another boy hanging out of its window, Pillsbury said.

“What you gonna do about it now?” the boy in the car allegedly taunted Lavante Jackson — a purported gang member.

Tyvion’s cousin, who was on the porch, then said he saw a friend of Lavante Jackson’s tell Lavante that he should come back since the car was also creeping back to where they had gathered, authorities said.

That’s when Tyvion’s cousin said he glimpsed Lavante Jackson immediately get off his bicycle, run onto the sidewalk and shoot at the moving car, Pillsbury said.

Lavante Jackson missed his target. But he hit Tyvion after the younger boy came back outside and stood in the doorway of his house, Pillsbury said.

“He lifted his arm and showed me that he’d been shot,” McDuffie said. “He really don’t understand why he got shot. We talked about how he won’t be able to ride his bike outside. He probably will be inside for a while.”

At least one other witness identified Lavante Jackson as Tyvion’s shooter, Pillsbury said.

Moments after Judge Donald Panarese Jr. ordered Lavante Jacskon held in lieu of $900,000 for aggravated battery with a firearm, his mother ran out crying, burying her hands in her face. “He’s not a bad kid,” Erika Jackson said, tears streaking down her face.

http://www.suntimes.com/22043347-418/15-year-old-held-on-900000-bail-in-shooting-of-7-year-old.html
 
Re: 15-year-old held on $900,000 bail in shooting of 7-year-old

15-year-old held on $900,000 bail in shooting of 7-year-old

BY RUMMANA HUSSAIN AND STEFANO ESPOSITO Staff Reporters
August 20, 2013 6:38AM

A juvenile charged with shooting a 7-year-old boy over the weekend had been on electronic monitoring for a pending drug case when he allegedly opened fire near a Garfield Park school and wounded the child.





PRECISELY!!!


Which is why you regulate people

Who can and who can't possess guns

who can and cannot sell or transfer guns

Who must register guns







 
Re: 15-year-old held on $900,000 bail in shooting of 7-year-old






PRECISELY!!!


Which is why you regulate people

Who can and who can't possess guns

who can and cannot sell or transfer guns

Who must register guns







Yea, according to his mother “He’s not a bad kid.” Damn that gun.

We should close that loophole where it's legal for a 15-year old to own a gun.

Who's idea was that anyway? Vote the bum out.
 
Re: 15-year-old held on $900,000 bail in shooting of 7-year-old

Yea, according to his mother “He’s not a bad kid.” Damn that gun.

We should close that loophole where it's legal for a 15-year old to own a gun.

Who's idea was that anyway? Vote the bum out.

Or,

(A) impose tighter gun registration requirements so that we can track how guns come into possession of those who shouldn't have them;

(B) impose penalties on those that cause or allow guns to come into the hands of those who shouldn't have them; and

(C) make those whose intentional or negligent conduct cause or allow guns to come to the hands of those who shouldn't have them civilly and/or criminally liable for the resulting harm.

That would be responsible gun control -- focusing on the those who kill or injure, since we all know that guns, in and of themselves, do neither.
 
Re: 15-year-old held on $900,000 bail in shooting of 7-year-old

You didn't address the part where he should be raised better.

The thread wants racism to stop being an excuse, so it's not better to focus on the gun instead of bad parenting.

A 15-year was already under monitoring - maybe bad parenting.
7-hours late for court mandated home curfew - definitely bad parenting.
Saying “He’s not a bad kid” after he shoots a seven year old - unambiguously bad parenting.
 
Re: 15-year-old held on $900,000 bail in shooting of 7-year-old

You didn't address the part where he should be raised better.

The thread wants racism to stop being an excuse, so it's not better to focus on the gun instead of bad parenting.
No, you seem insistent on overlooking the obvious: problems and solutions are typically multifaceted; and that ONE treatment of the disease does not mean the exclusion of all other treatments.

It has been my experience, however, that those who overlook that simple analysis tend to be those who tend to view things narrowly to fit their own view of the world.
 
Re: 15-year-old held on $900,000 bail in shooting of 7-year-old

No, you seem insistent on overlooking the obvious: problems and solutions are typically multifaceted; and that ONE treatment of the disease does not mean the exclusion of all other treatments.

It has been my experience, however, that those who overlook that simple analysis tend to be those who tend to view things narrowly to fit their own view of the world.
I would say you have a more simplistic way of thinking about it because you're not weighting different solutions by effectiveness. You want to address issues that fall more in the category of just being symptoms.
 
Re: 15-year-old held on $900,000 bail in shooting of 7-year-old

I would say you have a more simplistic way of thinking about it because you're not weighting different solutions by effectiveness. You want to address issues that fall more in the category of just being symptoms.

Please point out where I stated that reasonable gun control was the panacea.
 
Re: 15-year-old held on $900,000 bail in shooting of 7-year-old

Please point out where I said you said it.

Are you just accustomed to answering questions with questions; or do you simply enjoying trying to be coy ???

But to answer your question:



You didn't address the part where he should be raised better.


I would say you have a more simplistic way of thinking about it because you're not weighting different solutions by effectiveness. You want to address issues that fall more in the category of just being symptoms.

You assumed facts not in evidence; that is, that I had not considered other possiblilities, as well -- merely because I addressed A Particular part of the solution.
 
Re: 15-year-old held on $900,000 bail in shooting of 7-year-old

. . . you're not weighting different solutions by effectiveness . . .

Where is the evidence/study of the "solutions by effectiveness" that you relying upon ???
 
Re: 15-year-old held on $900,000 bail in shooting of 7-year-old

You want to address issues that fall more in the category of just being symptoms.

Gotta love this one! So now you're clairvoyant -- with the ability to know what I'm thinking :lol: :lol: :lol:

Or, trying to pigeon hole my thoughts into your particular myopia :yes:
 
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