the ever mysterious bob benson...that cat starting to make ol' dick whitman seem like a boy scoutlike it or not this is one of the most well written/acted shows on the small screen
no doubt - that finale was dope
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the ever mysterious bob benson...that cat starting to make ol' dick whitman seem like a boy scoutlike it or not this is one of the most well written/acted shows on the small screen
no doubt - that finale was dope
That was some sexy shit Peggy pulled,she got Stan heated up,he unloaded his baby batter in her
came to his senses and ran back to his wife and family.
I guess Joan is ok with just having a buddy and not getting laid.
Don received and intervention and a lay off at the same time,but his confession about his past
during the meeting was one of the best moments in Mad Men history.
came to his senses and ran back to his wife and family.
I guess Joan is ok with just having a buddy and not getting laid.
Don received and intervention and a lay off at the same time,but his confession about his past
during the meeting was one of the best moments in Mad Men history.
Ted not Stan
I have watched the finale again and 2 thoughts
1) Look at Ted's face through the whole meeting with Hershey - he listened to Don talk mowing the lawn and and his dad taking him to the store to get a Hershey Bar in that Don Draper type way and you can see Ted's childhood was not like that - especially after the comment to Don about how to deal with DTs since Ted father was also an alcoholic.
So Don looks at Ted and he realized his bullshit was effecting the world - the fantasy was not what most people were living or had lived - so he told his true Hershey story of growing up in a whore house and rolling johns - ten getting a Hershey Bar as a reward - the only sweet thing he ever had.
A lot of people thought that the guy Duck brought to the agency was Don's replacement but I think he is actually Pete's replacement on Chevy - the partners are not going to give Bob the Chevy account by himself. He was a salesman not creative - Peggy now has Don's job as the partners said - Ted will work with Peggy from the west coast in Don's absence.
I dont think Don is fired but I think the partners want Don to know they are tired of his bullshit and his arrogance - he is an MVP but he hasn't had an MVP season in a while - he is riding on his past, however, no one at SC&P can close like Don and they will feel the lose sooner than they think. Peggy has a lot of Don in her (actually she has had Ted and Duck in her but not Don) but she doesnt have his ability to close, yet.
here is a clip from the episode "The Suitcase" that shows how Don shaped Peggy and why she loves and hates him.
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That's excellent observation.
Like I said previously they are showing how judgmental Peg (and Joan for good reason though) criticize the men of that time.
But look at what Peg has resorted to?
Who has been MORE supportive of her then Don?
And dont forget her bearded friend is full of shit cause Peg STABBED HIM IN THE BACK by doing that sneak attack on their meeting when he accidentally mentioned to her, remember?
Sitting in that chair, for me, isnt her taking his spot in the new company...
its showing her true colors and BECOMING him...
which I think she always wanted but never understood the price Don has paid to be "Don Draper".
And her working with that Ted long distance isnt gonna be a happy ending either.
Sadly, I think Ted and Don would have been good friends in another life.
Like he (Don) stopped? Don't sell Don short. Once a c...hound, always a c....hound! His latest? The ex-wife now, always 'on-call). Oh, don't forget about the next-door neighbor's wife.....HITTING IT BIG-TIME, with regularity! Sadly, his daughter Sally accidentally saw a little of the action. She's now F-up for life, and developed a loathing/hatred for her old man.
Definitely out of character for Roger. Lets call it a vision of 'humanity--a quality that is peculiar to humans. Unlike Roger's deceased mother, the shoe-shine guy did not dote (show excessive fondness) on him. Look for Roger to start showing more interest in his child (Joan's kid), since Joan refuses to 'dote' on him. Also, he'll start showing more interest in his daughter.
Playa thanks for the compliment - what your opinion of this
A lot of people like Peggy but Peggy is a slightly cold bitch, from day one at Sterling Cooper she was on the come-up, she hit on Don, she fucked Pete, she put herself in position to be noticed. She knew how to manipulate men to get what she wanted like Joan but not with overt sexuality but with a kid sister charm. However, she was relentless in her pursuit of power and position.
A thought on how Don views Peggy, remember when they had the Heinz meeting and they were leaving the suite and Don stayed at the door to listen to Peggy pitch and you could see his admiration of how she sounded like him in telling them to change the conversation.
forward to the MLK episode and he talking to Megan about what little Bobby said to the usher and how he loved him so much his heart felt like it a would explode. Well outside that door that day with Peggy he realized his heart exploded - the merger was about Peggy - he loves like he loves Sally and Bobby - he loves her because he is his work child who has grown to a woman. He hated her being with Ted because like a father he hated that his baby girl looked at someone with that admiring look that she gave him.
People are talking about Don and Peggy hooking up - that will NEVER happen. Sex is a transaction to Don and Peggy is not a commodity in his mind.
Just some thoughts
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A lot of people like Peggy but Peggy is a slightly cold bitch, from day one at Sterling Cooper she was on the come-up, she hit on Don, she fucked Pete, she put herself in position to be noticed. She knew how to manipulate men to get what she wanted like Joan but not with overt sexuality but with a kid sister charm. However, she was relentless in her pursuit of power and position.
A thought on how Don views Peggy, remember when they had the Heinz meeting and they were leaving the suite and Don stayed at the door to listen to Peggy pitch and you could see his admiration of how she sounded like him in telling them to change the conversation.
forward to the MLK episode and he talking to Megan about what little Bobby said to the usher and how he loved him so much his heart felt like it a would explode. Well outside that door that day with Peggy he realized his heart exploded - the merger was about Peggy - he loves like he loves Sally and Bobby - he loves her because he is his work child who has grown to a woman. He hated her being with Ted because like a father he hated that his baby girl looked at someone with that admiring look that she gave him.
People are talking about Don and Peggy hooking up - that will NEVER happen. Sex is a transaction to Don and Peggy is not a commodity in his mind.
Just some thoughts
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Below is the best scene on television of all time. That was the best writing and acting I have ever seen
On Don sabotaging Ted’s and Peggy’s work on the St. Joseph’s ad in episode 12
“Episode 12 is Don dealing with the shame of Sally catching him. And unlike most episodes, he starts and ends in the same place, in the fetal position. He doesn’t want anyone to be happy. He gave his word to Ted, and the minute he sees Peggy and Ted together at the movie theater, he goes back on it and brings in Sunkist. And then he ‘helps’ them by insinuating himself into this thing to destroy and embarrass and humiliate his enemy. To crush him. And I felt that was someone who had no control — the worst part of ourselves just acting out — and it’s obviously not very satisfying. But it’s the act of someone who is not willing to confront himself. Don has had some amazing creative work this season and although I think the audience sometimes takes their cue from how the clients feel, if they can look at it in the abstract, Don has pitched some amazing work that is very … it’s not faddist. Ted is more of a faddist, he’s more about the style of the times. And it is where advertising is going. But Don did not pay enough attention to advertising this year; he was too busy trying to destroy the person who was there to help him. (laughs)”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igLPSr5HgZ8
Overall very good season probably the best out of the series so far. Whats everyone's favorite season?????
On Don sabotaging Ted’s and Peggy’s work on the St. Joseph’s ad in episode 12
“Episode 12 is Don dealing with the shame of Sally catching him. And unlike most episodes, he starts and ends in the same place, in the fetal position. He doesn’t want anyone to be happy. He gave his word to Ted, and the minute he sees Peggy and Ted together at the movie theater, he goes back on it and brings in Sunkist. And then he ‘helps’ them by insinuating himself into this thing to destroy and embarrass and humiliate his enemy. To crush him. And I felt that was someone who had no control — the worst part of ourselves just acting out — and it’s obviously not very satisfying. But it’s the act of someone who is not willing to confront himself. Don has had some amazing creative work this season and although I think the audience sometimes takes their cue from how the clients feel, if they can look at it in the abstract, Don has pitched some amazing work that is very … it’s not faddist. Ted is more of a faddist, he’s more about the style of the times. And it is where advertising is going. But Don did not pay enough attention to advertising this year; he was too busy trying to destroy the person who was there to help him. (laughs)”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igLPSr5HgZ8
Overall very good season probably the best out of the series so far. Whats everyone's favorite season?????
This my favorite season thus far
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pissed how they are going to split the final season
blame AMC. they are infamous for making decisions based finances sometimes at the dertirment of the shows
The outcome will be the same. You still will not like it. Either you like the show or you don't. Its a slow dialect type of show. The main character is a fucking stiff (pause) and shows no emotion. I got into the show so I know what to expect each new season. It's all about the individual characters
Don Draper is symbolic for the end of white male dominance that began in the beginning of the 1960s - Season one he was on top of the world but foreshadowing the decline that was to happen in America - we learn that the Don Draper we see is a fraud - instead of the Bon Vivannt that has the world on a string - he is a scared country boy who has taken someone else identity and in a sense their life -
Blah blah blah -
I love the show - and pissed its being split up - it didnt work for Breaking bad and its not going to work for Mad Men -
But come April 6th - I will be there
Blah blah blah -
I love the show - and pissed its being split up - it didnt work for Breaking bad and its not going to work for Mad Men -
But come April 6th - I will be there
I was amped about this season until they decided to to split it in two.
Nice - I like the Gallery of Mad Men episodes
I am looking forward to the season - I am looking forward to what literary theme he will extend to this season -
This is my favorite show on TV and though so many good ones are now on the air - this is the show that has me thinking the most about what it all means - appreciate the BGOLers that feel the same way
Peace
* i called this. Especially with the split final season. But this is bull, MOST fans DVR it and watch it later or even twice.
Ratings: The Mad Men Season Premiere Was the Least Watched Since 2008
There will apparently be no Breaking Bad–like surge for the final “season” of AMC’s Mad Men. Sunday’s season six premiere debuted to 2.3 million viewers, down about 30 percent from last spring’s return and the least-watched season opener for the show since 2008, its sophomore year (2.1 million).
It also represents the third consecutive season of decline for Mad Men bows: After peaking at 3.5 million in March 2012, last year’s premiere ticked down to 3.4 million viewers. The declines were similar among younger viewers, with the show dropping from a 1.1 rating among adults under 50 last year to a 0.8 rating Sunday.
It’s worth noting here that the Mad Men audience might not be disappearing, but rather shifting to delayed viewing. Last season, the under-50 audience for Matt Weiner’s drama went up by 87 percent once DVR replays were tallied. We won’t know for a few weeks, but that percentage could be even bigger this season. FX ratings researchers, for example, have pointed to how its second year critical fave The Americans has been seeing extraordinary DVR gains this year — to the point that episodes that appeared to be down in the overnight ratings week-to-week ended up showing gains once time-shifting was taken into account.
Still, even if Mad Men gets a record DVR bump, it’s unlikely to make up all of the year-to-year losses, nor is there any evidence to suggest a rush of new viewers will flock to the show the way they did with Breaking Bad. One bit of very good news for AMC, though: New drama Turn did better in its second week. Last night’s episode averaged 1.9 million viewers at 9 p.m., a modest 10 percent decline from last week’s premiere. And among viewers under 50, the drama actually went up by around 12 percent.
One more ratings note from Sunday: HBO's Game of Thrones held up well after last week's record-shattering return. Last night's episode bowed to 6.3 million (down just a tick from last week's 6.6 million, and up 48 percent from last year's second episode). Silicon Valley fell about 15 percent in its second week (from 2.0 million viewers to 1.7 million), while Veep was relatively steady at 860,000 viewers. Counting same-night encores, the three shows (GoT, Silicon, and Veep) ended up with 8 million viewers, 2.2 million viewers, and 1.4 million viewers, respectively.
Ratings: The Mad Men Season Premiere Was the Least Watched Since 2008
There will apparently be no Breaking Bad–like surge for the final “season” of AMC’s Mad Men. Sunday’s season six premiere debuted to 2.3 million viewers, down about 30 percent from last spring’s return and the least-watched season opener for the show since 2008, its sophomore year (2.1 million).
It also represents the third consecutive season of decline for Mad Men bows: After peaking at 3.5 million in March 2012, last year’s premiere ticked down to 3.4 million viewers. The declines were similar among younger viewers, with the show dropping from a 1.1 rating among adults under 50 last year to a 0.8 rating Sunday.
It’s worth noting here that the Mad Men audience might not be disappearing, but rather shifting to delayed viewing. Last season, the under-50 audience for Matt Weiner’s drama went up by 87 percent once DVR replays were tallied. We won’t know for a few weeks, but that percentage could be even bigger this season. FX ratings researchers, for example, have pointed to how its second year critical fave The Americans has been seeing extraordinary DVR gains this year — to the point that episodes that appeared to be down in the overnight ratings week-to-week ended up showing gains once time-shifting was taken into account.
Still, even if Mad Men gets a record DVR bump, it’s unlikely to make up all of the year-to-year losses, nor is there any evidence to suggest a rush of new viewers will flock to the show the way they did with Breaking Bad. One bit of very good news for AMC, though: New drama Turn did better in its second week. Last night’s episode averaged 1.9 million viewers at 9 p.m., a modest 10 percent decline from last week’s premiere. And among viewers under 50, the drama actually went up by around 12 percent.
One more ratings note from Sunday: HBO's Game of Thrones held up well after last week's record-shattering return. Last night's episode bowed to 6.3 million (down just a tick from last week's 6.6 million, and up 48 percent from last year's second episode). Silicon Valley fell about 15 percent in its second week (from 2.0 million viewers to 1.7 million), while Veep was relatively steady at 860,000 viewers. Counting same-night encores, the three shows (GoT, Silicon, and Veep) ended up with 8 million viewers, 2.2 million viewers, and 1.4 million viewers, respectively.
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Thought the premiere was good and it was a great setup for the final season - I am glad that Don has changed somewhat and recognize that he has to change things in his life.
At the end of last season, Peggy thought she was on top of the world, but she has to report to a guy who doesn't care about good work and who is immune to her charms (Cutler must have talked to him about Ted's dalliance with her). Peggy needs Don back even if she doesn't realize it yet.
Joan is middle age still hot but her charms are not as on point as they were a few year earlier but she still thinks she can charm her way to a dinner with the Butler Marketing Director who blows her off. Then she goes to the business prof and she thinks he is hitting on her and he is not - he wasnt business info from the firm. However, Joan shows her chops when her and the prof goes over business. then Joan again shows her worth when talking straight with the Butler guy. I hope Joan gets the confidence to be a full time account executive and start bringing in business like she did with Avon.
Megan looked gorgeous meeting Don at the airport and I like that she is going braless in being in step wihtt he time. Megan and Don are done - stick a fork in them. Megan is going Hollywood and Don is not coming along for the ride. She is not his Shangri La.
Looking forward to the season - I hate AMC is breaking up over 2 years - I hope the ratings get lower and lower until only me and ten othr people are watching - will serve their greedy asses right, this should have been the last real season and let it go out with a bang. The ratings were low because everyone know the season ends NEXT year - we are going to left with a fucking cliffhanger this year. At best they could have split it and brought it back in September or October not fucking April of NEXT year. Ugh.
At the end of last season, Peggy thought she was on top of the world, but she has to report to a guy who doesn't care about good work and who is immune to her charms (Cutler must have talked to him about Ted's dalliance with her). Peggy needs Don back even if she doesn't realize it yet.
Joan is middle age still hot but her charms are not as on point as they were a few year earlier but she still thinks she can charm her way to a dinner with the Butler Marketing Director who blows her off. Then she goes to the business prof and she thinks he is hitting on her and he is not - he wasnt business info from the firm. However, Joan shows her chops when her and the prof goes over business. then Joan again shows her worth when talking straight with the Butler guy. I hope Joan gets the confidence to be a full time account executive and start bringing in business like she did with Avon.
Megan looked gorgeous meeting Don at the airport and I like that she is going braless in being in step wihtt he time. Megan and Don are done - stick a fork in them. Megan is going Hollywood and Don is not coming along for the ride. She is not his Shangri La.
Looking forward to the season - I hate AMC is breaking up over 2 years - I hope the ratings get lower and lower until only me and ten othr people are watching - will serve their greedy asses right, this should have been the last real season and let it go out with a bang. The ratings were low because everyone know the season ends NEXT year - we are going to left with a fucking cliffhanger this year. At best they could have split it and brought it back in September or October not fucking April of NEXT year. Ugh.
* bonus
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Mad Men’s Teyonah Parris on Dawn’s Surprise Promotion, Don vs. Lou, and Doing Improv With Amy Poehler
There were some hard, heartbreaking moments on last night’s Valentine’s Day–set episode of Mad Men. Sally Draper, especially, went through some stuff, but so did office secretaries Dawn and Shirley, who were nearly fired three times between them, merely for being kind. Dawn got dressed down by her new boss, Lou Avery, for seeming to care too much about having missed Sally’s unexpected visit, which occurred only because she’d spent her lunch hour shopping for perfume for Lou’s wife. And Shirley’s attempt to clue Peggy in on the fairly obvious reality that those roses didn’t come from Ted and weren’t, in fact, even meant for her backfired on her. Luckily, they will both be sticking around, with Dawn installed in her new, elevated position as head of personnel in the wake of Joan’s promotion. So what’s next? This morning, Vulture spoke with Teyonah Parris, who also stars in the Sundance breakout Dear White People, about Dawn’s future, not hating her character’s now former boss Lou Avery (!), and how much she’d love a Dawn and Shirley spinoff.
They put up with so much in the episode.
We were treated very badly, but we’re still standing at the end. Dawn’s promoted, Shirley’s not fired — it was pretty awesome. It was just fun to see what us secretaries go through. On Twitter, everyone was like “We need a Dawn and Shirley spinoff!” Yes! Yes! Absolutely, we’ll take that spinoff, thank you.
But, gah. Lou.
Actually, I was very surprised watching it back, probably because I’m influenced by the actor [Allan Havey] himself. I did not think he was that bad. [Laughs.] I did not.
What?!
I know, but I really didn’t in the first episode. It was only when I read last night’s episode that I thought, Oh, okay. He’s not the nicest guy around. He’s got some issues going on. But initially, yeah, my reaction didn’t match up with everyone else’s.
Why do you think that is?
Well, Dawn’s been there a while now, she’s really good at what she does, and I think it’s not just Don who notices it now. With him being gone, it’s given her a bit more room to show more of what she can do. In some ways, Lou has allowed her to rise to the occasion.
What was the experience of reading the script through?
Dawn goes through so many ups and downs and really never knew where she would land, and it was the same for me. When I read that she got moved to reception, I thought, Aww, damn. I guess that’s it. And then I keep reading, and I literally had to go back and read my last scene four times to make sure I understood what was happening. It’s subtle on TV, and it’s subtle when you read it. Am I taking a box in there and unpacking? Is it my box I’m taking home?
I thought she’d been fired until she hung her purse up on the door.
I don’t remember what exactly it said beyond “Dawn enters with the box,” but I know it didn’t say, “She’s happy” or “She’s sad,” or anything like that.
Did you have to double-check to make sure you were staying?
Um … listen, yes. Pretty much. [Laughs.] I asked [executive producer]
Matthew Weiner, “I know you can’t tell me anything, but what this is insinuating is that I’m the new Joan, right?” And he was like, “Yes!” Okay then! I don’t think she was necessarily after that, but I think she deserves it. Dawn just always shows up, does a great job, never asks for any attention or acknowledgment of the work she does. For Joan to see that she could handle being head of personnel — even though her hands were forced, and she had to do some finagling — I think it’s awesome for Dawn.
Did Matthew say anything else about this episode to you? It’s obviously one of your bigger ones.
Not a thing. I saw my pages when everyone else did. There was no, “Oh, this is a good episode for Dawn!” No. Nothing. We talked about it a bit at the table read, as in he said, “Do you like it?” Uh, yeah, I do!
The episode opens with Don getting dressed up for his visit from Dawn. He cares what she thinks. Why do you think she’s so loyal to him? She’s not just fielding his calls. She’s going to his house, keeping him stocked with cream and sugar …
He’s always treated her well at a basic level. I do think Dawn thinks he’s a good guy who’s going through some things. That’s what it is: She knows he’s a good guy, he’s been a great boss to her, and also this is normal for her. Doing this type of thing for him is I think part of who she is. It’s in her nature. She’s not even doing it for the money.
Joan’s always been very protective of the secretaries. Do you think Dawn will be the same way?
I don’t see why not? Remember that episode when she got into trouble for clocking the girls out when they had already left? All the girls do that. That wasn’t something special. It’s just, like, secretaries unite. It will be interesting to see whether that helps or hurts her. It’s hard sometimes going from being someone’s peer to their superior.
I wanted to ask about the rom-com satire you made with Amy Poehler, They Came Together, which premiered at Sundance this year. What was the best part of that?
She is fun, I tell you. She is fun. It was a summer in Brooklyn. Amy and I, our characters work in a candy shop and we had a lot of moments in that shop just playing. Trying and improvising stuff, going “nope, nope,” and trying something else. I’m a fan of her work, and to watch it happen in person was pretty awesome. And I ate a lot of candy. I can’t speak for Amy, but I definitely did.
You’re also starring in the upcoming Starz professional basketball comedy Survivor’s Remorse, which is being executive produced by Mike O’Malley and LeBron James. What’s working with LeBron been like?
We leave to shoot in four days, and I’ve only met Mike and a few of the other actors. I don’t even watch basketball, I can’t even pretend. There you go.
There were some hard, heartbreaking moments on last night’s Valentine’s Day–set episode of Mad Men. Sally Draper, especially, went through some stuff, but so did office secretaries Dawn and Shirley, who were nearly fired three times between them, merely for being kind. Dawn got dressed down by her new boss, Lou Avery, for seeming to care too much about having missed Sally’s unexpected visit, which occurred only because she’d spent her lunch hour shopping for perfume for Lou’s wife. And Shirley’s attempt to clue Peggy in on the fairly obvious reality that those roses didn’t come from Ted and weren’t, in fact, even meant for her backfired on her. Luckily, they will both be sticking around, with Dawn installed in her new, elevated position as head of personnel in the wake of Joan’s promotion. So what’s next? This morning, Vulture spoke with Teyonah Parris, who also stars in the Sundance breakout Dear White People, about Dawn’s future, not hating her character’s now former boss Lou Avery (!), and how much she’d love a Dawn and Shirley spinoff.
Shirley and Dawn call each other by the other’s name — a mistake I assume their bosses make all the time.
Yeah, I took it as “All black people look the same.” That’s Shirley and Dawn’s joke. Constantly throughout the day, we’re called by the other’s name. And we look nothing alike! Shirley’s so cute and fashionable, and Dawn’s covered up from chin to ankle. Really, people? Really? I loved that scene.
Yeah, I took it as “All black people look the same.” That’s Shirley and Dawn’s joke. Constantly throughout the day, we’re called by the other’s name. And we look nothing alike! Shirley’s so cute and fashionable, and Dawn’s covered up from chin to ankle. Really, people? Really? I loved that scene.
They put up with so much in the episode.
We were treated very badly, but we’re still standing at the end. Dawn’s promoted, Shirley’s not fired — it was pretty awesome. It was just fun to see what us secretaries go through. On Twitter, everyone was like “We need a Dawn and Shirley spinoff!” Yes! Yes! Absolutely, we’ll take that spinoff, thank you.
But, gah. Lou.
Actually, I was very surprised watching it back, probably because I’m influenced by the actor [Allan Havey] himself. I did not think he was that bad. [Laughs.] I did not.
What?!
I know, but I really didn’t in the first episode. It was only when I read last night’s episode that I thought, Oh, okay. He’s not the nicest guy around. He’s got some issues going on. But initially, yeah, my reaction didn’t match up with everyone else’s.
Why do you think that is?
Well, Dawn’s been there a while now, she’s really good at what she does, and I think it’s not just Don who notices it now. With him being gone, it’s given her a bit more room to show more of what she can do. In some ways, Lou has allowed her to rise to the occasion.
That’s a fair point. Their confrontation did play like a Peggy moment, the way Dawn stood up to Lou in the end.
Yeah! It felt very good to do that. I was really excited to do it. It shows you Dawn is a lot more comfortable and a lot more sure of herself and her worth. I mean, when she gets called in she pretty much thinks she’s going to be fired, but then we find out, oh, he can’t fire her because the NAACP will be all over his ass.
Yeah! It felt very good to do that. I was really excited to do it. It shows you Dawn is a lot more comfortable and a lot more sure of herself and her worth. I mean, when she gets called in she pretty much thinks she’s going to be fired, but then we find out, oh, he can’t fire her because the NAACP will be all over his ass.
What was the experience of reading the script through?
Dawn goes through so many ups and downs and really never knew where she would land, and it was the same for me. When I read that she got moved to reception, I thought, Aww, damn. I guess that’s it. And then I keep reading, and I literally had to go back and read my last scene four times to make sure I understood what was happening. It’s subtle on TV, and it’s subtle when you read it. Am I taking a box in there and unpacking? Is it my box I’m taking home?
I thought she’d been fired until she hung her purse up on the door.
I don’t remember what exactly it said beyond “Dawn enters with the box,” but I know it didn’t say, “She’s happy” or “She’s sad,” or anything like that.
Did you have to double-check to make sure you were staying?
Um … listen, yes. Pretty much. [Laughs.] I asked [executive producer]
Matthew Weiner, “I know you can’t tell me anything, but what this is insinuating is that I’m the new Joan, right?” And he was like, “Yes!” Okay then! I don’t think she was necessarily after that, but I think she deserves it. Dawn just always shows up, does a great job, never asks for any attention or acknowledgment of the work she does. For Joan to see that she could handle being head of personnel — even though her hands were forced, and she had to do some finagling — I think it’s awesome for Dawn.
Did Matthew say anything else about this episode to you? It’s obviously one of your bigger ones.
Not a thing. I saw my pages when everyone else did. There was no, “Oh, this is a good episode for Dawn!” No. Nothing. We talked about it a bit at the table read, as in he said, “Do you like it?” Uh, yeah, I do!
The episode opens with Don getting dressed up for his visit from Dawn. He cares what she thinks. Why do you think she’s so loyal to him? She’s not just fielding his calls. She’s going to his house, keeping him stocked with cream and sugar …
He’s always treated her well at a basic level. I do think Dawn thinks he’s a good guy who’s going through some things. That’s what it is: She knows he’s a good guy, he’s been a great boss to her, and also this is normal for her. Doing this type of thing for him is I think part of who she is. It’s in her nature. She’s not even doing it for the money.
Joan’s always been very protective of the secretaries. Do you think Dawn will be the same way?
I don’t see why not? Remember that episode when she got into trouble for clocking the girls out when they had already left? All the girls do that. That wasn’t something special. It’s just, like, secretaries unite. It will be interesting to see whether that helps or hurts her. It’s hard sometimes going from being someone’s peer to their superior.
I wanted to ask about the rom-com satire you made with Amy Poehler, They Came Together, which premiered at Sundance this year. What was the best part of that?
She is fun, I tell you. She is fun. It was a summer in Brooklyn. Amy and I, our characters work in a candy shop and we had a lot of moments in that shop just playing. Trying and improvising stuff, going “nope, nope,” and trying something else. I’m a fan of her work, and to watch it happen in person was pretty awesome. And I ate a lot of candy. I can’t speak for Amy, but I definitely did.
You’re also starring in the upcoming Starz professional basketball comedy Survivor’s Remorse, which is being executive produced by Mike O’Malley and LeBron James. What’s working with LeBron been like?
We leave to shoot in four days, and I’ve only met Mike and a few of the other actors. I don’t even watch basketball, I can’t even pretend. There you go.
this was like the WORST episode in the ENTIRE series to me 
this was like the WORST episode in the ENTIRE series to me
i gotta agree it was FAR from the worst though...
but this supports the 'they don't know how to write black people' argument.
nothing happened but it was a big episode for Sally but to a degree unnecessary because if she was still acting like a brat after what he told her at the end of last season she was hopeless.
The black women STILL acted well...though the whole story line was trying to be WAY to funny and the most poorly written of the season. (only 2 eps in too)
And suddenly making Lou a sexist bigot stereotypical white guy was a bad decision. That was just lazy.
Playa
I am going to have to disagree with you - while not the best episode in a series of great episode - this episode was far more thematic and VERY important in moving forward to the final denouement. This whole episode was about miscommunication and how not expressing how one really feels can have ramifications both good and bad.
First Shirley and Dawn - I know you think they didnt write the black people correctly but it was 1969 - 2 black secretaries in a all white advertising firm on Madison Ave - rule numbr 1 keep your head down and as Dawn send "..pretend." The Shirley and Dawn name switch was a funny bit and one for any black person that has worked in a all white environment knows they will mix up your name even in 2014.
I wont go on but I am glad how many of the things worked out - Don is not honest with anyone including himself regarding his job situation until he finally comes clean with Sally and admits he have not idea what to do - his honesty pays off by Sally telling him she loves him - a step forward from where they have been over the last few months.
Peggy is a bitch because she hates her life (love Ginsburg sidemouth response about her spending Valentine's weekend - look at her calendar Feb 14th masturbate gloomily
). Fuck Peggy and how she handled Dawn ..I mean Shirley (btw can Shirley's skirt be any shorter without seeing cooch 
)Pete Campbell blah blah blah
Like I said - it wasnt the best episode but Dawn got a promotion to Joan's job and Joan got an account exec job.
Only 5 more episodes left - Fuck AMC and their bullshit split season.
Playa
I am going to have to disagree with you - while not the best episode in a series of great episode - this episode was far more thematic and VERY important in moving forward to the final denouement. This whole episode was about miscommunication and how not expressing how one really feels can have ramifications both good and bad.
First Shirley and Dawn - I know you think they didnt write the black people correctly but it was 1969 - 2 black secretaries in a all white advertising firm on Madison Ave - rule numbr 1 keep your head down and as Dawn send "..pretend." The Shirley and Dawn name switch was a funny bit and one for any black person that has worked in a all white environment knows they will mix up your name even in 2014.
I wont go on but I am glad how many of the things worked out - Don is not honest with anyone including himself regarding his job situation until he finally comes clean with Sally and admits he have not idea what to do - his honesty pays off by Sally telling him she loves him - a step forward from where they have been over the last few months.
Peggy is a bitch because she hates her life (love Ginsburg sidemouth response about her spending Valentine's weekend - look at her calendar Feb 14th masturbate gloomily
Pete Campbell blah blah blah
Like I said - it wasnt the best episode but Dawn got a promotion to Joan's job and Joan got an account exec job.
Only 5 more episodes left - Fuck AMC and their bullshit split season.
just off respect WW Imma watch this again ...
since I watched it at 1am after work...
Yeah not a good way to watch Mad Men - either watch at 10pm sunday or I will wait until the next day
I see everything you stated. But it was just too quirky and too many scenes that should've been edited out if you ask me
I see everything you stated. But it was just too quirky and too many scenes that should've been edited out if you ask me
I see everything you stated. But it was just too quirky and too many scenes that should've been edited out if you ask me
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