Spurs Vs Grizzles Thread
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dude, battier can hit a few jumpers but he's not Curry, Allen, or even Bonner.
if you're betting on battier as the intangible, that's not good; he's a mild streak shooter, at best.
the heat will struggle rebounding against a big spurs lineup. how will they match-up?
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Well, Splitter did average more points than Hibbert & Perkins
Thing is, they could send Splitter to the bench, start Diaw & still punish the 4 position.
Diaw is another slow footed tree.... During the last game, with out James, Wade and Rio, the two trees score a whopping 9 points between them... So this is your plan to win..
Now humor me, how exactly are they supposed to guard Battier and his three point shooting?
Diaw is another slow footed tree.... During the last game, with out James, Wade and Rio, the two trees score a whopping 9 points between them... So this is your plan to win..
Now humor me, how exactly are they supposed to guard Battier and his three point shooting?
You keep referencing a game in which Stephen Jackson scored double digits & Ginobili didn't play
He is when he is left wide open the way OKC had to guard him with Perking and Ibaka.. After game three the decided to not to allow Perkins and Ibaka play together because they were being roasted by the three..
Man don't you remember me saying the same exact thing about the Thunder HEat match up last year, when all you guys (especially after game one) swore the Thunder big men will dominate the paint.. Why cant you understand most of the West Big men are slow and not athletic enough to play the same defense Garnett, Hibbert, West, Noah and Dang play..
Ginobili won't be much of a factor in this game either, but still no Wade, James and Rio and we supposed to give Jackson a cookie for scoring 11 in a losing effort in the so called revenge game at home..
You keep referencing a game in which Stephen Jackson scored double digits & Ginobili didn't play
I actually believe the Pacers have the best chance of beating the Heat... At least they have the ability to force them out of their comfort zone by pounding the ball inside, making Battier a non factor, as well have the size and speed to deal with Jame and Wade.. I am not saying this because I like the Pacer better than the Spurs, but because I am a honest observer of the game, and know the game is won by how teams match up, not always who has the most talent.
Naw I would never put Lebron in the same class with MJ to make that comparison. I said compare Bron to Kobe. Kobe > of course. You said the best comparison is vs Magic. I agreed.
I never got a answer back from you when I asked name five things you feel Kobe can do better than LeBron plus the stats to back it up.. You see, once you don't have stats to back up your claim your are a Stan, with stats you are merely telling the truth..
First, name the 2013 starting lineup for your Miami Heat. lol
QUOTE=wiZe;13029632]First, name the 2013 starting lineup for your Miami Heat. lol[/QUOTE]
The Heat change their line up so much, but to play your little game
Haslem
Rio
James
Bosh
and Wade.
Now give me five things Kobe is better than LeBron.
Lets see how long it takes you..
The Heat change their line up so much, but to play your little game
Haslem
Rio
James
Bosh
and Wade.
Now give me five things Kobe is better than LeBron.
Lets see how long it takes you..
You keep talking about last year & okc. None of that applies to this year.
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Cuts and past, saves it for next year..
Let me help you...
Free throw % Now you have just 4 more to come up with... Oh btw, unless you are somehow able to prove that LeBron would not be able to win a championship with those Lakers team, winning championships ain't one of them.
Let me help you...
Free throw % Now you have just 4 more to come up with... Oh btw, unless you are somehow able to prove that LeBron would not be able to win a championship with those Lakers team, winning championships ain't one of them.
We talking this year or career?
Diaw is another slow footed tree.... During the last game, with out James, Wade and Rio, the two trees score a whopping 9 points between them... So this is your plan to win..
Now humor me, how exactly are they supposed to guard Battier and his three point shooting?
Please post battier's 3pt percentage this year. You are hyping this dude like he's walter ray allen! And in 3pt language, he's not even close to his own teammate.
For the love of miami heat basketball, at least mention Ray Allen bc Battier is a defensive flopper and avg long range shooter on his absolute best day. He has to be wide ass open with feet set to even get off...can't create shit off the dribble if you run him off the line.
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Battier is one of those dudes that if you leave him alone he will kill you... This is why many teams play small vs the Heat and often use a smaller forward to guard him... OKC was not flexible to do this and paid for it, and this year it will be a problem also for the Spurs if they do get to play the Heat.Please post battier's 3pt percentage this year. You are hyping this dude like he's walter ray allen! And in 3pt language, he's not even close to his own teammate.
For the love of miami heat basketball, at least mention Ray Allen bc Battier is a defensive flopper and avg long range shooter on his absolute best day. He has to be wide ass open with feet set to even get off...can't create shit off the dribble if you run him off the line.
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Battier is in a shooting slump. He's shooting 23% from three during the playoffs. But I would imagine that eventually he's going to start making shots. He's a streaky shooter though so it's not like you can count on him scoring. Sometimes he's making shots...sometimes he isn't....not even about the quality of shots either. Battier is just streaky.
Miller is hurt.
Wild thing about them heat is that they are barely playing kats from last years run. A team only need do many shooters. I think they overloaded.
Cuts and past, saves it for next year..
In the sports world, history has NO INFLUENCE on present-day performance.
You cant even count on performance consistency from game-to-game & you're basing your discussions shane battier vs okc from last yr?!
Even Ray Allen is missing his stroke THIS yr.
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Not really. I just posted details above. He's a streaky shooter and he's in a shooting slump. He's gotten good looks. He's just not making the shots. Of all the shooters, he's the one you most wanted shooting 3s. He's not a sharp-shooter, but he's a capable shooter. He can hit the baseline three when he's in a groove...that he's definitely not in right now.
Pop will most like play man to man to I don't think Battier is really an issue to worry about.
I think WADE is the key. If the Spurs can't contain wade, they'll have very little chance because when wade is getting 20+ and getting into the lane, it completely changes the way that you have to defend Miami.
There's isn't any one Miami shooter that you have to worry about. You have to worry about any one catching fire. It was Miller who cooked OKC in game 5.
Miller is always hurt though. Is he really hurting more this year than last season?
But yeah.. you know when you hurt your back on a jump shot, you're on the tail end.
Let me assist...
3pts James 337% > Kobe 336%
shooting % James 490% > Kobe 454%
Rebounds James 7.3% > Kobe 5.3%
Assist James 6.9 > Kobe 4.8
Blocks James .08 > Kobe .05
Steals James 1.7 Kobe 1.5
Playoffs game winning shots James 5/12 41.7% (not including this years heroics) > Kobe 7/25 25.9%
Sorry can include nut hugging as a stat...
You can't understate the way Indiana is closing out and challenging both his and Allen shots.. The Key is West and the other big guys on Iniana are big long and have very fast feet.. Even if they don't get there its like they hear footsteps, and never reach that comfort zone I've seen Allen and Battier enjoy most of the season.. I believe just like last year, if they do make it out of the east players like Battier, Allen and even Wade, would have the biggest weight lifted off of their shoulders and should have a better shooting performance..
But if I was the Spurs I would try to play small..
Possibly cause dude is getting no play.
I'm enjoying the debate going on here though. Been checking on and off all day.
Nice points have been made and some where interesting. Spurs will double but it will be a smart double and very random. Manu will be leading the heats fast break though.
Do you think they would go small with Duncan at center or risk what happen to Memphis back firing and happening to them by going slow and big?
Let me assist...
3pts James 337% > Kobe 336%
shooting % James 490% > Kobe 454%
Rebounds James 7.3% > Kobe 5.3%
Assist James 6.9 > Kobe 4.8
Blocks James .08 > Kobe .05
Steals James 1.7 Kobe 1.5
Playoffs game winning shots James 5/12 41.7% (not including this years heroics) > Kobe 7/25 25.9%
Sorry can include nut hugging as a stat...
I'll respond to this later. Some stats of a SF whose as big as a PF vs a SG not tell the whole story. Funny though.
REally then the smaller guys should at least have more steals and assist, don't you think..
I'm not. Indiana is the best defensive team in terms of opponent 3 point percentage. However, Shane specifically has been shooting poorly the last 20 games. Sometimes players go through shooting slumps. Even Ray Allen is having problems from the free throw line. That is why I was posting in the Indiana vs Miami thread that Indiana was in a tough spot because they still haven't seen the best ball from Miami. And even though Miami shot poorly, it wasn't ALWAYS because the defense forced them into tough shots. They just missed a lot of wide open looks.
Even though Ray is an all-time great shooter... he's still a streaky shooter. Remember Ray is the same player who couldn't buy a shot against LA in the finals that Boston lost and it wasn't because of defense.
The Spurs are just as good at closing out.
Pop sticks with his traditional line up in the 1st game. He usually begins making adjustments around 2nd half of game 2 if nothing is working right. He will go small at some point, but will not stick with it unless it is successful. He had to do it in the GS series, then went back to traditional line up to finish them.
It going to be chess with pop. He is a master at eliminating the key elements for teams. He will go small but he will def not settle for it because that is what the heat want.
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