Sports Pass/Fail: Ken Burns says ESPN Michael Jordan ‘The Last Dance’ isn’t good journalism or good history UPDATE: Apology

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Ken Burns says Michael Jordan’s ‘The Last Dance’ isn’t good journalism or good history
“The Last Dance” of Michael Jordan’s Chicago Bulls has been a big hit for ESPN. (Beth A. Keiser/AP)
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Cindy Boren
April 30, 2020 at 12:43 p.m. EDT
Michael Jordan promised that “The Last Dance” would be a warts-and-all documentary, with nothing off limits.
But one of the most popular documentarians in America pointed out that a big problem with the 10-part ESPN series is that, while it may be entertaining as all get-out to watch a man whose greatest NBA glory came more than 20 years ago, it’s something of a vanity project that was made in partnership with Jump 23, Jordan’s production company. That means that Jordan was, to a degree, in control.
“I find it the opposite direction of where we need to be going. If you are there influencing the very fact of it getting made it means that certain aspects that you don’t necessarily want in aren’t going to be in, period,” Burns told the Wall Street Journal. “And that’s not the way you do good journalism ... and it’s certainly not the way you do good history, my business.”
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Burns added that he had not seen the first four parts that have aired, though many people certainly have been watching. The documentary, which provides an inside look at Jordan’s last season with the Chicago Bulls as they completed their second NBA championship three-peat, has averaged nearly 6 million viewers over its first four episodes, shown the past two Sunday nights.
Burns has produced enormously popular documentaries on baseball, the Civil War, the history of country music, the Vietnam War and the Roosevelts. “The Last Dance” was done differently than a Burns program, with executive producer Mike Tollin saying Jordan had seen all 10 episodes. That is an arrangement that Burns said he would “never, never, never, never” agree to.
But “The Last Dance” is part authorized biography as well as chronicle of a season. It has felt, over the first four episodes, disjointed at times as it seeks to place the final championship season in historical context as well as to chronicle the life of a transformative athlete. After all, there would not be one without the other, and if, along the way, it puts an end to the debate over whether Jordan or LeBron James is the greatest of all time, well, that may be a product of Jordan’s involvement in the production, too.



It’s part of a trend in sports in which players, teams and owners often seek to bend the narrative, whether through sites such as the Players’ Tribune or productions from their media companies, such as Tom Brady’s “Tom vs. Time” series. Tollin stressed the importance of credibility with “The Last Dance” but noted that “this isn’t investigative journalism. [Director] Jason [Hehir is] a filmmaker, and like his, my orientation is to tell great stories.”
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Burns seeks to tell stories, too, but through an objective point of view. “The Last Dance” is comprehensive and certainly compelling, with Estee Portnoy, Jordan’s business manager, telling The Washington Post’s Ben Golliver that “nothing was off limits.” But it remains a Jump 23 co-production even as it tells of Jordan’s cutthroat approach to competition and leadership and touches on subjects such as his tyrannical tendencies, his gambling, his apolitical public stance and his father’s death.

It’s the Bulls’ story, and it’s Jordan’s, too, but wouldn’t you like to see Ken Burns’s version of it?
 
Ken Burns Wants You to Know He's Not a Fan of The Last Dance
"That’s not the way you do good journalism."

BY BRADY LANGMANN
MAY 1, 2020

STEVEN FERDMANGETTY IMAGES
Watching The Last Dance, ESPN’s 10-part documentary series of the Michael Jordan-era Chicago Bulls dynasty, is kind of like going on your first trip to Disney World. The whole thing is catnip to basketball die-hards. “The Shot.” MJ talking shit on Isiah Thomas. The opening notes of “Sirius.”
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Apparently, not everyone is as easily impressed by B-roll of Jordan messing around off the court. In an interview with The Wall Street Journal, legendary documentarian Ken Burns said he’s not a fan of The Last Dance. Mostly, because Jordan’s production company, Jump 23, is involved with the project.
"I find it the opposite direction of where we need to be going,” Burns said. “If you are there influencing the very fact of it getting made, it means that certain aspects that you don’t necessarily want in aren’t going to be in, period."
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Burns, who is no stranger to the sports-doc scene, having directed Ken Burns’ Baseball, added that he would "never, never, never, never” (four nevers!) agree to those terms if he was in charge.
“And that’s not the way you do good journalism, ... and it’s certainly not the way you do good history, [which is] my business," he said.
Worth noting: Burns’ review comes after the first four episodes of the documentary, which mostly refresh you on all the essentials. The big stuff—gambling, Jordan’s father.—comes later. Regardless, the next two episodes of The Last Dance debut on ESPN Sunday night. We’ll have to check back with KB when he gets to the Space Jam episode.
 
Yep. Just had this conversation with someone. The hype on this piece is ridiculous. Its mere MJ propaganda and cherry picked narratives, stories and footage which lack dimension, varied perspectives and objectivity imo. I also found myself justifying the time jumps and chronology and accepting it as foundational reflecting and story set up. But its just not well put together if im being honest.
 
Yep. Just had this conversation with someone. The hype on this piece is ridiculous. Its mere MJ propaganda and cherry picked narratives, stories and footage which lack dimension, varied perspectives and objectivity imo. I also found myself justifying the time jumps and chronology and accepting it as foundational reflecting and story set up. But its just not well put together if im being honest.

all I will say is

to be FAIR...

It was NOT finished and a little bit rushed.

BUT I see the OBVIOUS lapses that could have easily been expanded and CLARIFIED

like Scottie's contract and trade offers for example.

And not being CLEAR about Jordan going to Rodman's APARTMENT and NOT to Vegas to get him.
 
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all I will say is

to be FAIR...

It was NOT finished and a little bit rushed.

BUT I see the OBVIOUS lapse that could have easily be expanded and CLARIFIED

like Scottie's contract and trade offers for example.

And not being CLEAR about Jordan going to Rodman's APARTMENT and NOT to Vegas to get him.
Good points

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I havent watched a single second of this bullshit. I told yall months ago it was a fluff piece for his stans and a way to deflect from the current NBA. If the Lakers win the championship there will be a part 2 this summer.
Yea i haven't watched it either. I'm Gucci
 
Burns makes good points. It's really a commercial for Jordan. I'll finish watching it though.

You damn right you will, and so will I and a whole lot of other people. Why? Because it's entertaining.
Some glass half empty crabs are bitching because it's not enough of an in-depth expose to satisfy their need for negativity to which I say, "stfu or just don't watch". :hmm:
 
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You damn right you will, and so will a whole lot of other people. Why? Because it's entertaining.

This... We ain't got shit else to watch sports related, and Jordan moves the needle. It holds my attention and that's all I need it to do. Some are critiquing the way its put together, what got omitted... I guess I get it. Some just hate Jordan and will never fuck with anything related to him outside of taking the chance to say fuck Jordan. Shit is just entertaining to me.
 
I havent watched a single second of this bullshit. I told yall months ago it was a fluff piece for his stans and a way to deflect from the current NBA. If the Lakers win the championship there will be a part 2 this summer.
I heard there's a documentary coming out called and the band played on ..it's about the Miami heat after LeBron left.. Camera man been following them every game since.. Are you gonna watch since you were a die hard fan yrs ago?

another documentary called "no one cares about us" is about the cavs last 2 seasons and all the raw footage behind the scenes.. Are you gonna watch that since you was a die hard cavs fan a few yrs ago???

Lakers coming out with a documentary called just 2 yrs ago.. It's a documentary about the Lakers legacy the season b4 LeBron got there.. Are you gonna watch it since you hated the Lakers 2 yrs ago and now all of a sudden a fan?

Another documentary called cap switcher is coming out.. Documentary about team jumping dickriders that claim multiple teams in less than a decade time.. I think that documentary was meant for people like you..people without no shame jumping from 1 team to the next switching bball caps like a shameless groupie.. Documentary talks about why the NBA has fallen to shit cause the cap switcher movement
 
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I heard there's a documentary coming out called and the band played on ..it's about the Miami heat after LeBron left.. Camera man been following them every game since.. Are you gonna watch since you were a die hard fan yrs ago?

another documentary called "no one cares about us" is about the cavs last 2 seasons and all the raw footage behind the scenes.. Are you gonna watch that since you was a die hard cavs fan a few yrs ago???

Lakers coming out with a documentary called just 2 yrs ago.. It's a documentary about the Lakers legacy the season b4 LeBron got there.. Are you gonna watch it since you hated the Lakers 2 yrs ago and now all of a sudden a fan?

I want a documentary on the James Jordan Murder, why wont MJ sign off it? Does he feel guilty? Is he hiding something? If my dad ended up at the bottom of a lake under mysterious circumstances, I would publicly acknowledge it and actually speak out about it. MJ talks more about Dean Smith and Phil being father figures than his own daddy. He just kept playing basketball and made Curtis Polk his new dad. :smh:

When MJ dies all the dirt and exposes will come then. He wont be around to protect his image. The white man will make more money exposing that stuff then they will keeping this GOAT facade up. A bunch of white bitches selling their stories to tabloids about MJs affairs wit them. Right now they giving you sanitized docs and fluff pieces he has to OK first. :lol: Enjoy it while it lasts, hes not getting any younger.
 
I want a documentary on the James Jordan Murder, why wont MJ sign off it? Does he feel guilty? Is he hiding something? If my dad ended up at the bottom of a lake under mysterious circumstances, I would publicly acknowledge it and actually speak out about it. MJ talks more about Dean Smith and Phil being father figures than his own daddy. He just kept playing basketball and made Curtis Polk his new dad. :smh:

When MJ dies all the dirt and exposes will come then. He wont be around to protect his image. The white man will make more money exposing that stuff then they will keeping this GOAT facade up. A bunch of white bitches selling their stories to tabloids about MJs affairs wit them. Right now they giving you sanitized docs and fluff pieces he has to OK first. :lol: Enjoy it while it lasts, hes not getting any younger.
I want ya to peep this lunatic once again bgol.. This guy continuously makes fun of Jordan's father death, he's made fun of kobes death, he be hoping for Jordan's death, and he's made fun of people getting injured like kd.. Ya need to ban this sick fuck.. Dude is bulls LeBron stalker and I fear for his wife being around this sick bastard.. Ya keep sleeping on this nutso comments
 
I want ya to peep this lunatic once again bgol.. This guy continuously makes fun of Jordan's father death, he's made fun of kobes death, he be hoping for Jordan's death, and he's made fun of people getting injured like kd.. Ya need to ban this sick fuck.. Dude is bulls LeBron stalker and I fear for his wife being around this sick bastard.. Ya keep sleeping on this nutso comments

Im not making fun of it. James Jordan really was murdered. He really was dumped in a pond, cremated, and john doe'd for a week. Michael Jordan never has publicly acknowledged it. Michael Jordan has blocked all requests to open the case. Michael Jordan calls white men his "father figures" and only allows them "veto" power over him.

Whether you like it or not, the James Jordan murder is a part of his story and brand. You want us to act like his dad didnt die "mysteriously" so you can still look at Jordan as God. Maybe if your dad was black papi, or if you had a better relationship with the one you have, you might actually feel different. You wouldnt sweep Jordans dads death under the rug so quickly.

Those of us who actually love our dads and have great relationships wit them cant imagine them dying and just operating as if nothing happened. That is real "killer instinct" right there.
 
Im not making fun of it. James Jordan really was murdered. He really was dumped in a pond, cremated, and john doe'd for a week. Michael Jordan never has publicly acknowledged it. Michael Jordan has blocked all requests to open the case. Michael Jordan calls white men his "father figures" and only allows them "veto" power over him.

Whether you like it or not, the James Jordan murder is a part of his story and brand. You want us to act like his dad didnt die "mysteriously" so you can still look at Jordan as God. Maybe if your dad was black papi, or if you had a better relationship with the one you have, you might actually feel different. You wouldnt sweep Jordans dads death under the rug so quickly.

Those of us who actually love our dads and have great relationships wit them cant imagine them dying and just operating as if nothing happened. That is real "killer instinct" right there.
don't try to clean it up psycho.. You didn't think I was gonna copy and paste your sick ass comments like all your sick ass comments for yrs.. 1 of the reasons why you try to block your history on this board for all your sick thoughts.. You've made hundreds of jokes about Jordan's father death.. Laugh at Kobe death or make bunch of sly comments.. Don't worry lunatic people keeping tabs of your crazy comments.. Remember deniro in the movie the fan didn't have a such great ending for his stalker ass
 
The fact that we get more insight to the relationship between Rodman and Carmen Electra and absolutely no mention of Juanita Jordan is baffling.

Why would MJ talk about his biggest L ever and show us how much of a sucker he is when it comes to women? Tallblack wouldnt see him as God if he did that.

Juanita is Dominican I believe. She latina, but too dark. MJ got him one of those white Cubans now. He looks more "God'like" with her on his arm.
 
don't try to clean it up psycho.. You didn't think I was gonna copy and paste your sick ass comments like all your sick ass comments for yrs.. 1 of the reasons why you try to block your history on this board for all your sick thoughts.. You've made hundreds of jokes about Jordan's father death.. Laugh at Kobe death or make bunch of sly comments.. Don't worry lunatic people keeping tabs of your crazy comments.. Remember deniro in the movie the fan didn't have a such great ending for his stalker ass

If you had a better relationship with your own father it might bother you how disinterested MJ seems at his owns fathers death. You not ADOS and you not from our culture, so you dont get it. It's cool.
 
If you had a better relationship with your own father it might bother you how disinterested MJ seems at his owns fathers death. You not ADOS and you not from our culture, so you dont get it. It's cool.
Dude you ha te your mother cause she was jordan fuck piece and he use to leave you boxes of sneakers after he was done slutting her out..it's why you hate his sneaker brand cause it reminds you of the many nights you heard your mom slobbing jordan off and the gifts he would leave behind for her skill set.. It's why you bash black women all the time cause you think all of them are whores like the 1 that birth you and cheated on your dad.. It's why you left North Carolina a few yrs ago to leave behind those memories.. You jump on a bunch of band wagons cavs, heat, cavs, lakers, panthers, big ballet brand, and now you ados.. You dickride everything.. You fake pro black but always hate on black women..you hate LeBron wife cause you think if she wasn't in the picture you would have a shot with inkosi
 
I heard there's a documentary coming out called and the band played on ..it's about the Miami heat after LeBron left.. Camera man been following them every game since.. Are you gonna watch since you were a die hard fan yrs ago?

another documentary called "no one cares about us" is about the cavs last 2 seasons and all the raw footage behind the scenes.. Are you gonna watch that since you was a die hard cavs fan a few yrs ago???

Lakers coming out with a documentary called just 2 yrs ago.. It's a documentary about the Lakers legacy the season b4 LeBron got there.. Are you gonna watch it since you hated the Lakers 2 yrs ago and now all of a sudden a fan?

Another documentary called cap switcher is coming out.. Documentary about team jumping dickriders that claim multiple teams in less than a decade time.. I think that documentary was meant for people like you..people without no shame jumping from 1 team to the next switching bball caps like a shameless groupie.. Documentary talks about why the NBA has fallen to shit cause the cap switcher movement
I wouldn’t watch these documentaries. I’ll stick to the Jordan documentary.
 
The fact that we get more insight to the relationship between Rodman and Carmen Electra and absolutely no mention of Juanita Jordan is baffling.
Seriously? Have you heard of a non disclosure agreement? Especially in a divorce between wealthy people.
Nitpick much?
 
Dude you ha te your mother cause she was jordan fuck piece and he use to leave you boxes of sneakers after he was done slutting her out..it's why you hate his sneaker brand cause it reminds you of the many nights you heard your mom slobbing jordan off and the gifts he would leave behind for her skill set.. It's why you bash black women all the time cause you think all of them are whores like the 1 that birth you and cheated on your dad.. It's why you left North Carolina a few yrs ago to leave behind those memories.. You jump on a bunch of band wagons cavs, heat, cavs, lakers, panthers, big ballet brand, and now you ados.. You dickride everything.. You fake pro black but always hate on black women..you hate LeBron wife cause you think if she wasn't in the picture you would have a shot with inkosi

Im bout to have breakfast with my dad, wheres yours? Did he even marry your mom? :lol: TallSpanishNYC if I promised you 3 NBA chips, would you put your pops at the bottom of a pond? Jordans dads death is a part of his story. Those of us who dont hate ours are bothered by it.
 
Im bout to have breakfast with my dad, wheres yours? Did he even marry your mom? :lol: TallSpanishNYC if I promised you 3 NBA chips, would you put your pops at the bottom of a pond? Jordans dads death is a part of his story. Those of us who dont hate ours are bothered by it.
my pops chilling at his crib living lovely off all the money he made from his own bizz.. We have each other's number.. You live in your father basement that's why you gonna have breakfast him, your gay ass was never successful at anything but fluffing random dudes like your moms.. How's she doing by the way? Did your father finally divorce her or is he still a cuckold?
 
my pops chilling at his crib living lovely off all the money he made from his own bizz.. We have each other's number.. You live in your father basement that's why you gonna have breakfast him, your gay ass was never successful at anything but fluffing random dudes like your moms.. How's she doing by the way? Did your father finally divorce her or is he still a cuckold?

You have his number. :lol:

You aint grow up wit your dad so Jordans dad dying so he can win 3 more chips is collateral damage to you. Youd prefer James Jordan be totally forgotten.

502
 
You damn right you will, and so will I and a whole lot of other people. Why? Because it's entertaining.
Some glass half empty crabs are bitching because it's not enough of an in-depth expose to satisfy their need for negativity to which I say, "stfu or just don't watch". :hmm:
But is it fine for historians to say it's not historically accurate or complete if Jordan leaves out the shit that makes him and his brand look really bad?
 
You have his number. :lol:

You aint grow up wit your dad so Jordans dad dying so he can win 3 more chips is collateral damage to you. Youd prefer James Jordan be totally forgotten.

502
when you get older you supposed to separate from your parents.. You still live with your pops..both you and him packed up and left your moms.. Noticed you never mentioned eating breakfast with both your parents cause you and your dad got tired of her whorish ways.. The cuckold dad and the gay son are getting together to chow down on sausages for breakfast..meanwhile your moms chowing down on some dude sausage.. The family that loves meat.. The 1 you eat and the 1 used in bed
 
when you get older you supposed to separate from your parents.. You still live with your pops..both you and him packed up and left your moms.. Noticed you never mentioned eating breakfast with both your parents cause you and your dad got tired of her whorish ways.. The cuckold dad and the gay son are getting together to chow down on sausages for breakfast..meanwhile your moms chowing down on some dude sausage.. The family that loves meat.. The 1 you eat and the 1 used in bed

You never lived with your dad. Your parents were never married. TallSpaniard comes from a broken Puerto Rican home in Manhattan. TallSpaniard wants us to forget James Jordan, never mention him, but Ima say his name.
 
No doc is going to be 100%

You also wouldn't get the amount of people involved to tell their perspective and video footage if he wasn't involved

Ken Burns doesn't do individual docs
 
You never lived with your dad. Your parents were never married. Tallblack comes from a broken Puerto Rican home in Manhattan. Tallblack wants us to forget James Jordan, never mention him, but Ima say his name.
Why don't you talk about your moms? Why you keep deflecting from the question.. Why isn't your moms joining your cuckold pops and you for breakfast? is She busy sucking somebody else off? is She the reason you hate black women?
 
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