I think you misunderstood. I said at the times of both trades being made.
Sources. Amare to Cavs almost a done deal..
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I just can't help but think what if Memphis had drafted Tyreke Evans
That squad would be a PROBLEM 
Ok let me break it down for the camp! If you been peeping the Cavs for the last few weeks you would see some signs that may have tipped their hand in this type of a trade, 1- they been going out their way to inflate Hickson trade vaule, J.J. has only one move, a spin slam dunk, he cant dribble, he cant shoot from the outside, he is basically a clean up guy feeding off of the scraps when the defense is too busy rotating on either Shaq or James. He would have to develop an outside shot, or at least learn how to dribble more than three bounces.
2-Another thing that I've noticed, is that the Cavs have been playing Anderson Varejao at center during meaninful moments of the game, almost wanting to see if he can fill in at back up, again this is consitant to the club making this type of a trade.
Will the trade go down?
But one thing for sure, the Cavs have been looking deep and hard about this type of trade for quite a while.
2-Another thing that I've noticed, is that the Cavs have been playing Anderson Varejao at center during meaninful moments of the game, almost wanting to see if he can fill in at back up, again this is consitant to the club making this type of a trade.
Will the trade go down?
But one thing for sure, the Cavs have been looking deep and hard about this type of trade for quite a while.
cavs dont need another scorer,i dont think amare is going to be a good fit. they better off going after marcus camby
get rid of illgauskis and verajao and bring in camby to play foward alongside shack
c.shaq
pf.camby
sf.lebron
sg.mo williams
pg.doesnt really matter lebron will handel the ball
get rid of illgauskis and verajao and bring in camby to play foward alongside shack
c.shaq
pf.camby
sf.lebron
sg.mo williams
pg.doesnt really matter lebron will handel the ball
Ok let me break it down for the camp! If you been peeping the Cavs for the last few weeks you would see some signs that may have tipped their hand in this type of a trade, 1- they been going out their way to inflate Hickson trade vaule, J.J. has only one move, a spin slam dunk, he cant dribble, he cant shoot from the outside, he is basically a clean up guy feeding off of the scraps when the defense is too busy rotating on either Shaq or James. He would have to develop an outside shot, or at least learn how to dribble more than three bounces.
2-Another thing that I've noticed, is that the Cavs have been playing Anderson Varejao at center during meaninful moments of the game, almost wanting to see if he can fill in at back up, again this is consitant to the club making this type of a trade.
Will the trade go down?
Amare can hit the 18 ft jumper in the elbow, can drive in for the dunk/Do the scrap work also. did ya'll forget amare can drop an easy 50 pts ?? Tell me Lebron can't use this talent ?? Lebron makes jj and varejao look like all stars. imagine what he'll do with amare ?
I dont like Camby game, he gets stuck in the paint, and he goes after too many blocks (when he makes them, he looks like the man, but he is also quick to fall for a simple pump fake, hi numbers are always better than his actual game.
We'd rather have Bosh, but its now way we're gonna get him 
This trade would essentially be Amare for Hickson. The Suns would be idiots to make this trade. They can get a much better player back for Amare.
Iguodala is out there for them. Better trade for the Suns. Even if the Suns trade Amare their not going to have enough room under the salary cap to sign a big name player this offseason so trading Amare will be their free agent signing for next year.
Perhaps, but i was talking from the perspective of the Cavs.
I thought that the Suns would make the move to clear cap space. If thats the case then they would take a deal that does that best and not one that gives most talent (which will certainly come with loaded contracts). As for Andre, i wouldnt take that bum azz nigga and that bloated contract if you begged me. Steve Nash has 2 more good years in him. They can take any of a number of mediocre 2guards and make them look like or better than Andre. Nash is that type of player. No way they should waste money on AI.
Gasol > kg aNd JesusNOTHING compares, NOTHING.
Shawn Marion < _____________
Don't worry....Rose bout to ball wit somebody this summer.
*waits*
*waits*
Stoudemire doesn't want to play in Cleveland
Many around the league are holding their breath until the Amar'e Stoudemire trade to the Cavaliers is announced.
But there could be one major road block.
A source said the five-time All-Star center let it be known that he does not want to come to Cleveland.
The Cavs have reportedly been informed of that news and have gone in another direction.
They had reportedly offered center Zydrunas Ilgauskas, promising young power forward J.J. Hickson and another player to the Suns for Stoudemire.
The source said judging from the changing winds of the NBA, it's not totally out of the question that the Cavs could still make a deal for Stoudemire.
But the 6-foot-10, 249-pound Stoudemire has little desire of joining LeBron James and Shaquille O'Neal on the Cavs, even if it meant bringing home an NBA championship.
One thing that could change Stoudemire's thought process, the source said, would be if the Cavs offered a contract extension. Stoudemire is supposedly seeking a three-year, $60 million extension.
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Many around the league are holding their breath until the Amar'e Stoudemire trade to the Cavaliers is announced.
But there could be one major road block.
A source said the five-time All-Star center let it be known that he does not want to come to Cleveland.
The Cavs have reportedly been informed of that news and have gone in another direction.
They had reportedly offered center Zydrunas Ilgauskas, promising young power forward J.J. Hickson and another player to the Suns for Stoudemire.
The source said judging from the changing winds of the NBA, it's not totally out of the question that the Cavs could still make a deal for Stoudemire.
But the 6-foot-10, 249-pound Stoudemire has little desire of joining LeBron James and Shaquille O'Neal on the Cavs, even if it meant bringing home an NBA championship.
One thing that could change Stoudemire's thought process, the source said, would be if the Cavs offered a contract extension. Stoudemire is supposedly seeking a three-year, $60 million extension.
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sixers still in it.
He done lost his damn mind. No way any team will be stupid enough to give him that kind of money especially in this financial chess game. He'll be lucky if he even gets half of that right now. This is clearly another case of a player getting a gassed up ego & thinking he's franchise player material
Dont like that deal. Shaq will be worth his weight come playoff time. He will be a great situational rotation guy against other teams bigs. Dude already got Howards heart. And he would straight up punk Pau and Andrew should they make it that far.
STFU homo.
You forget that teams will double down on Shaq becuase they don't have to worry about Hickson or Sideshow killing them from the perimeter. Jamison will force defenders to stay home giving Shaq more room to maneuver.
Doubling down on Shaq is a non issue. Nothing will run through him offensively. Im talking about his worth on the defensive end. Dude is still a presence and force down low. He takes up a ton of space and makes life hell for opposing big men (in spurts). He's also 6 hard fouls if you need 'em.
There is a lot of posturing and jocking for position by the Suns, Amare and the Cavs.
1-If Amare didn't want to play for the Cavs, he would not bring up the contract as if he would really sign for anyone for less than his demands.,
2-The Cavs aren't going to trade Shaq
3-The Suns are trying to get a draft pick out of the trade, and will hold out until the zero hour to get it. (remember they lost their first round pick for next season.)
1-If Amare didn't want to play for the Cavs, he would not bring up the contract as if he would really sign for anyone for less than his demands.
, 2-The Cavs aren't going to trade Shaq
3-The Suns are trying to get a draft pick out of the trade, and will hold out until the zero hour to get it. (remember they lost their first round pick for next season.)
But on the offensive end, thats the Cavs primary weakness. They lacked a low post game for the past few seasons especially w/ Big Z traveling further & further from the post on a regular basis. In order to free up LBJ & the Cavs shooters, they need a low block game. If the opposing PF can double down on Shaq because they don't fear Sideshow or Hickson consistently hitting a jumper then there's no way the other defenders are gonna leave their man to create open shots.
Nah not with that offense they play. They dont have a traditionaly inside out game. They dont need a big man on the block to create shots for wingplayers. They got that dam powerforward running the point and he creates for everyone else. Theres a reason why undersized guards like West and Gibson constantly get open looks and have great 3point percentages. Cleveland doesnt need any offense, certainly not a down low presence. They are top 10 in scoring. They need a rebounder, defender and tall scorer who can get buckets without the help of Lebron creating (JAMISON!). They need perimeter defense and legit (limited) scoring threat from the same position.
Amare aint worth 20 mill a year
The trade wont go through, he will never pass the physical/mental evaluation. He is batshit crazy. 20 million.
And fuck him if he doesn't want to play here, we will take Jamison or the cat from Indiana and still be
This muthafucka Amare is going to fuck around and Latrell Spree himself.
Dude that's why I was advocating for Jamison in the first place. He pulls the doubleteam off Shaq cuz he can create his own shot. They dont have to be an inside out team but having an inside presence will open it up for their shooters. Why do you think they had a difficult time getting past the Magic last year. No low post presence to put pressure on Howard & their shooters couldn't get open shots. Jamison would help the Cavs spread the floor & is definitely a good rebounder & defender.Similar threads
