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So this is Dr Umar’s daughter throwing him under the bus? Is this real? Wow

TheFuser said:
Now that part I agree with. The problem is she's 22 now. Umar has had 4 years of access to her without the mom if he wanted to.
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Exactly.

Also, even if you're skeptical about receiving a text from your estranged daughter due to not recognizing the number it doesn't explain or justify treating her like she's some stranger.

He still could have simply just called the number and confirmed it was her or told her to call him no matter what number she was calling from.
 
OutlawR.O.C. said:
Exactly.

Also, even if you're skeptical about receiving a text from your estranged daughter due to not recognizing the number it doesn't explain or justify treating her like she's some stranger.

He still could have simply just called the number and confirmed it was her or told her to call him no matter what number she was calling from.
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Don't trust the number? Hop on Facetime real quick. This ain't 2002 :lol:
 
TheFuser said:
Now that part I agree with. The problem is she's 22 now. Umar has had 4 years of access to her without the mom if he wanted to.
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I agree but if there’s 18 plus years of her mom feeding her lies and half truths….it can get wicked. Now I don’t trust Umar and he certainly could’ve been a dead beat. I’m not defending him just speaking on how wicked shit can be but that’s why it’s important to watch who you nut in.
 
dtownsfinest said:
I agree but if there’s 18 plus years of her mom feeding her lies and half truths….it can get wicked. Now I don’t trust Umar and he certainly could’ve been a dead beat. I’m not defending him just speaking on how wicked shit can be but that’s why it’s important to watch who you nut in.
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Fam, who you telling? My goofy ass mom told me my grandma hated me when I was little because she hated my dad. So I grew up avoiding her thinking she hated me. My grandmother went to her grave in 1998 without us ever making peace. Fast forward to fucking 2015 and my dad tells me he and my grandmother got along well. Like REALLY well. Said they were tight as shit. What a goofy ass lie to tell and I didn't have a good relationship with my grandma because of it. Mom's be on some nut shit for no ass logical reason.

But it's definitely Umar's responsibility at this point to at least try to have a relationship with his daughter and combat the nut shit the mom may have said
 
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Man I get so tired of black people always attacking black people and calling everything a goddamn scam.

It cost millions of dollars to run a school for one fucking year. Umar simply doesn't have the cash to effectively run a school for one year yet. (Especially when he bought a school in the Northeast.)

Especially if he isn't going to charge tuition or if he's going to charge tuition at a prorate.

To the people who say he doesn't have a school that's a flat out lie. He's totally remodeled the inside of the school which probably is taking most of the donations, especially with the new HVAC system he's put in there. He puts all the information on YouTube for everyone to see. When he bought that place in 2014 it looked like total shit and now it looks damn near operational. That alone cost damn near half million dollars. Those that donate can see where their money has went so far.


As a school teacher and a person that's on the building development team for my building (which includes all of the budgeting and expenses) I understand how expensive schools are. Regardless of all that I just don't see how he can be successful.

When I see our school bills I just don't see how he can succeed. Schools just cost too much money to run. He could possibly survive on donations but black people have allowed the hes scamming us thing to ruin that. *Which was probably done on purpose to stop his momentum by powers higher than us and dumb niggas just love to jump on board.*

Do I think Dr Umar is a scammer, no. Do I think he can be successful with his school, no!

At best he can sell a renovated school to someone and make a small profit. But then you niggas will scream bloody murder for that too. Dude is in a no win position because niggas are niggas.

Good luck to him though. Hopefully he can be operational for one year have some success and then he can get the donations again from wealthy private donors.

I'm going to scan our budgeting papers (if it's legal to do so) and post it here. Y'all just don't understand how expensive schools really are. It will give you a better understanding of how shit really works.
 
alexw said:
Man I get so tired of black people always attacking black people and calling everything a goddamn scam.

It cost millions of dollars to run a school for one fucking year. Umar simply doesn't have the cash to effectively run a school for one year yet. (Especially when he bought a school in the Northeast.)

Especially if he isn't going to charge tuition or if he's going to charge tuition at a prorate.

To the people who say he doesn't have a school that's a flat out lie. He's totally remodeled the inside of the school which probably is taking most of the donations, especially with the new HVAC system he's put in there. He puts all the information on YouTube for everyone to see. When he bought that place in 2014 it looked like total shit and now it looks damn near operational. That alone cost damn near half million dollars. Those that donate can see where their money has went so far.


As a school teacher and a person that's on the building development team for my building (which includes all of the budgeting and expenses) I understand how expensive schools are. Regardless of all that I just don't see how he can be successful.

When I see our school bills I just don't see how he can succeed. Schools just cost too much money to run. He could possibly survive on donations but black people have allowed the hes scamming us thing to ruin that. *Which was probably done on purpose to stop his momentum by powers higher than us and dumb niggas just love to jump on board.*

Do I think Dr Umar is a scammer, no. Do I think he can be successful with his school, no!

At best he can sell a renovated school to someone and make a small profit. But then you niggas will scream bloody murder for that too. Dude is in a no win position because niggas are niggas.

Good luck to him though. Hopefully he can be operational for one year have some success and then he can get the donations again from wealthy private donors.

I'm going to scan our budgeting papers (if it's legal to do so) and post it here. Y'all just don't understand how expensive schools really are. It will give you a better understanding of how shit really works.
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I agree with this take. If he’s victim of something maybe it’s his ambition. That’s why I asked people what’s the scam. Is it the deadline? Because she’s not a billionaire he’s one person doing this. It’s probably not even a realistic mission but that’s on those who spent money. He could easily try a much easier scam. If he wanted to scam people he could just charge people to his Patreon and actually scam if he wanted to.
 
dtownsfinest said:
That part I don’t know. It very well could be true. But I know first hand as a child as a parent how wicked shit can be. That child has no idea what that dynamic was for them. She just knows her mom side. So I honestly don’t know.
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This is all I'm saying. I have read and experienced too many stories where women twist stories up of fathers trying to be in the kids life and the kids believing it.

This is probably the most egregious I've seen on "TV"

 
Database Error said:
Let the healing begin. Not for Umar and his kids but let the healing begin for the katts that sent him donations.
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I sent him a donation back in 2012 or 2013. I got over it during the Tariq Umar beef. (This was years later) Ironically, I stopped listening to Tariq after this vid when he was talking about he put Dr. Umar in Hidden Colors and KNEW he was a fraud. :smh::angry:

 
BlackGoku said:
This is all I'm saying. I have read and experienced too many stories where women twist stories up of fathers trying to be in the kids life and the kids believing it.

This is probably the most egregious I've seen on "TV"

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I'm at least glad he labeled her a demon.

I'll leave it at that. I don't want to be too negative.
 
alexw said:
Man I get so tired of black people always attacking black people and calling everything a goddamn scam.

It cost millions of dollars to run a school for one fucking year. Umar simply doesn't have the cash to effectively run a school for one year yet. (Especially when he bought a school in the Northeast.)

Especially if he isn't going to charge tuition or if he's going to charge tuition at a prorate.

To the people who say he doesn't have a school that's a flat out lie. He's totally remodeled the inside of the school which probably is taking most of the donations, especially with the new HVAC system he's put in there. He puts all the information on YouTube for everyone to see. When he bought that place in 2014 it looked like total shit and now it looks damn near operational. That alone cost damn near half million dollars. Those that donate can see where their money has went so far.


As a school teacher and a person that's on the building development team for my building (which includes all of the budgeting and expenses) I understand how expensive schools are. Regardless of all that I just don't see how he can be successful.

When I see our school bills I just don't see how he can succeed. Schools just cost too much money to run. He could possibly survive on donations but black people have allowed the hes scamming us thing to ruin that. *Which was probably done on purpose to stop his momentum by powers higher than us and dumb niggas just love to jump on board.*

Do I think Dr Umar is a scammer, no. Do I think he can be successful with his school, no!

At best he can sell a renovated school to someone and make a small profit. But then you niggas will scream bloody murder for that too. Dude is in a no win position because niggas are niggas.

Good luck to him though. Hopefully he can be operational for one year have some success and then he can get the donations again from wealthy private donors.

I'm going to scan our budgeting papers (if it's legal to do so) and post it here. Y'all just don't understand how expensive schools really are. It will give you a better understanding of how shit really works.
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about 7 years ago i started raising money for an iei that I more or less dreamed up in my head. i started construction November before last and will be finished at the end of the year. when I started i was a specialist in almost none of the areas critical to the completion of the project. but because I took it seriously and had an end to end plan before I lobbied anyone for a cent, I was able to make it happen.

I've never been part of the umar is scamming crew, but I will say that to take a bunch of money from people without a clear plan is definitely scam adjacent, somewhere between fraud and incompetence. none of those are good things. i love the intent and the ambition, but also damn.

if someone doesn't possess the baseline judgment to know that, I don't think it bodes well for the thing people are giving their money to. nobody made him take a flawed approach and while I don't ridicule the nigga like that, I don't think he's owed any more grace than anybody else out here cappin and fucking up the church's money. let alone for all the community harm multipliers.
 
The daughter doing interviews now but y'all said she wasn't looking for clout. Then she chooses the worst bitch of them all Cynthia G


 

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