Sinead O'Connor's remarks on Trayvon Martin

[geechiedan]

I have a confession to make. I am highly suspicious of white people. By default I think they have their own interests in mind. That's just how I look at the world. Not saying it's wrong or right, that's just how I see things.

What I have issue with is how eager we have become for validation of shit that we know is true and how quick we are to pat white people on the back for doing/saying what is right. Ok, the murder of Trayvon was a tragedy. Ok, we appreciate your support. Now stop right there. Bitch you ain't in the circle. It takes more than a couple of "right on's" to get in the circle.

I was watching this movie about how during the American Revolution the British came over and asked the indians to help fight the Americans because they deserved their land back. Yea, the shit was true, but look how that turned out.

theres no validation seeking since we never asked Sinaed or any non black person for any compliment or acknowledgement. BUT if they want to say complimentary things or acknowledge the struggle then fine.

Did black folks wait for white approval to start the movement for Trayvon? Did Blacks wait for approval from whites to start the civil rights movement? The fact that these things and more have happened demonstrates that blacks aren't looking for daddy white man to pat us on the head in order to make things right.

Also believe it or not (and you may not) there are some nonblacks who actually WANT to be friends and allies to us in the world.

 

[P03t]

theres no validation seeking since we never asked Sinaed or any non black person for any compliment or acknowledgement. BUT if they want to say complimentary things or acknowledge the struggle then fine.

Did black folks wait for white approval to start the movement for Trayvon? Did Blacks wait for approval from whites to start the civil rights movement? The fact that these things and more have happened demonstrates that blacks aren't looking for daddy white man to pat us on the head in order to make things right.

Also believe it or not (and you may not) there are some nonblacks who actually WANT to be friends and allies to us in the world.

yes but alot for their own gain...its happen before & continues to happen today

I will always be a skeptic when whites come with open arms to help or aid black folks...

 

[DeSiRe]

There was so much love radiating from that letter....if u can't feel at least that u need to do some soul searching cause I'm pretty sure there are other expressions of love in your own lives that ur missing out on too

 

[BigATLslim]

This does not surprise me. You know she is right because just by her pigment being lighter, she will be heard for quicker than someone with darker pigmentation. Racism is a sick, sick, sick disease.

Yo fuck C.Powell on this one. She dropped so much truth that its not even funny. It needs to be read in it's entirety.

Kinda sad that this ether that we all needed comes from a baldheaded irish white woman. Shit, she has more pride in black america than many of you.

I wanted to find a part that I could call bullshit but I couldnt.

Great post.

I didn't say it, you did, but I'm a have to agree wit' ya.

- which is why it will be laughed at and ignored.

she basically called hip hop disposable and evil (while praising black music of the past).

that shit won't fly w/the masses...at least not w/black folks.

She's right, though.

 

[Cock Head Jones]

I have a confession to make. I am highly suspicious of white people. By default I think they have their own interests in mind. That's just how I look at the world. Not saying it's wrong or right, that's just how I see things.

What I have issue with is how eager we have become for validation of shit that we know is true and how quick we are to pat white people on the back for doing/saying what is right. Ok, the murder of Trayvon was a tragedy. Ok, we appreciate your support. Now stop right there. Bitch you ain't in the circle. It takes more than a couple of "right on's" to get in the circle.

I was watching this movie about how during the American Revolution the British came over and asked the indians to help fight the Americans because they deserved their land back. Yea, the shit was true, but look how that turned out.

I feel you fam. I love my people to death but here's my confession... I'm skeptical of EVERYBODY. No ethnicity has a monopoly on shady characters with hidden agendas. I'm a pretty good judge of character though.

I dont see anybody looking for validation and to be honest wayyyy more white people are gonna read that letter than black youth... so thats really who i think could benefit most from that message.

i read it with my most critical eye and theres really nothing in there to debate man. she spit ether from a place of love from what i can see unless yall know some shit about her i dont know. seems like she has always been down for whats right.

and again i will say, this chick seems to have more love and reverence for black people and black culture than many black members of this board.

this reminds of the thread about trayvans hood. im thinking theres no way cats can find a way to argue about this but some people on bgol feel like the kids sweatshirt is why he's dead today. this place never surprises me anymore.

 

[geechiedan]

yes but alot for their own gain...its happen before & continues to happen today

I will always be a skeptic when whites come with open arms to help or aid black folks...

its one thing to be skeptical of someone's acts and agenda..just in case..fine thats common sense

but this woman is giving words of comfort, praise and acknowledgemnt of a struggle we have to deal with.

To look at that and treat that with skepticism and disrespect just shows how much damaged goods some black people have become.

Its the same as a black woman giving you a straight up hard nigga please look because you said she was beautiful and that she shouldn't feed into the negativity of the world by straightening her hair or getting skinny when she's not unhealthy fat at all.And she claimed you were talking down to her and why the fuck should she accept what you have to say anyway...

If a black woman did that to you..you would call her all kinds of bitches and say she was the most damaged good chick you ever saw and no wonder dudes dog her ass out...

its the same thing..

 

[P03t]

its one thing to be skeptical of someone's acts and agenda..just in case..fine thats common sense

but this woman is giving words of comfort, praise and acknowledgemnt of a struggle we have to deal with.

To look at that and treat that with skepticism and disrespect just shows how much damaged goods some black people have become.

Its the same as a black woman giving you a straight up hard nigga please look because you said she was beautiful and that she shouldn't feed into the negativity of the world by straightening her hair or getting skinny when she's not unhealthy fat at all.And she claimed you were talking down to her and why the fuck should she accept what you have to say anyway...

If a black woman did that to you..you would call her all kinds of bitches and say she was the most damaged good chick you ever saw and no wonder dudes dog her ass out...

its the same thing..

damaged maybe but we have every right to be skeptical about whites look at the history between us...

 

[xcluesiv]

she dropped some real knowledge on that one

 

[twillz1]

Fantastic post. 5+ stars.
Let's retire Colin for a moment: READ THIS, Black folk.

 

[BlackIce05]

Yo fuck C.Powell on this one. She dropped so much truth that its not even funny. It needs to be read in it's entirety.

Kinda sad that this ether that we all needed comes from a baldheaded irish white woman. Shit, she has more pride in black america than many of you.

I wanted to find a part that I could call bullshit but I couldnt.

Great post.

BUMP

 

[alexw]

Again, when white people say OBVIOUS shit, BGOL goes nuts.

She's not even a relevant white person, just a random has been white person who has absolutely nothing to lose by stating the obvious.

I just don't get it.

because some cats still need the validation of Whites...Black Folks have been saying this for yrs...

nothing she said surprised me it just shocks me how many blacks really know nothing about themselves or need some non black to tell them how great we really are...

its laughable how you two know so much yet really know so little

maybe yall should read more history before yall cast judgements

particularly, the irish and racism

if anyone can understand blacks, its the irish

this ignorance can only be found on bgol

 

[sharkbait28]

I feel you fam. I love my people to death but here's my confession... I'm skeptical of EVERYBODY. No ethnicity has a monopoly on shady characters with hidden agendas. I'm a pretty good judge of character though.

I dont see anybody looking for validation and to be honest wayyyy more white people are gonna read that letter than black youth... so thats really who i think could benefit most from that message.

i read it with my most critical eye and theres really nothing in there to debate man. she spit ether from a place of love from what i can see unless yall know some shit about her i dont know. seems like she has always been down for whats right.

and again i will say, this chick seems to have more love and reverence for black people and black culture than many black members of this board.

this reminds of the thread about trayvans hood. im thinking theres no way cats can find a way to argue about this but some people on bgol feel like the kids sweatshirt is why he's dead today. this place never surprises me anymore.

That's real man. Shit is actually sad as hell.

 

[Cock Head Jones]

damaged maybe but we have every right to be skeptical about whites look at the history between us...

true but look at black on black violence too as well as the history of black sellouts and double agents throughout us history.

are u skeptical of black folks?

what about the black vs spanish situation out west. are u skeptical of latinos?

 

[P03t]

its laughable how you two know so much yet really know so little

maybe yall should read more history before yall cast judgements

particularly, the irish and racism

if anyone can understand blacks, its the irish

this ignorance can only be found on bgol

true but look at black on black violence too as well as the history of black sellouts and double agents throughout us history.

are u skeptical of black folks?

what about the black vs spanish situation out west. are u skeptical of latinos?

Slavery, Colonialism etc..?

our history with them is a reason why some of us feel this way

 

[Cock Head Jones]

Slavery, Colonialism etc..?

our history with them is a reason why some of us feel this way

bro the british brought irish slaves over to the americas before bringing africans.

and u didnt answer my question.

 

[P03t]

didnt answer my question.

everything you mention at the end of the day relate back to this country racism towards blacks...the latino & black beef doesn't make me skeptical about latinos because living here in NYC we don't have those issues like our west bruhs...the Beef out there is more cultural & is a regional conflict

 

[Cock Head Jones]

everything you mention at the end of the day relate back to this country racism towards blacks...the latino & black beef doesn't make me skeptical about latinos because living here in NYC we don't have those issues like our west bruhs...the Beef out there is more cultural & is a regional conflict

cool.

ur skeptical of whites. im skeptical of everybody that i dont know in varying degrees. we both love our people and agree with damn near everything in her letter. u feel the need to push back because u feel funny agreeing with a white person. i see truth for what it is and can accept it from a black person, white, brown, green... a homeless crack head, a rich guy... a toddler... a woman or a man...anybody. truth is truth bro...

 

[P03t]

cool.

ur skeptical of whites. im skeptical of everybody that i dont know in varying degrees. we both love our people and agree with damn near everything in her letter. u feel the need to push back because u feel funny agreeing with a white person. i see truth for what it is and can accept it from a black person, white, brown, green... a homeless crack head, a rich guy... a toddler... a woman or a man...anybody. truth is truth bro...

 

[jasonblacc]

good letter

 

[max-dawg]

I've always liked her since she ripped up the Pope's picture.

I'm glad to see this Trayvon Martin story is speading globally.

I loved her letter, I just hate that this had to come from a white woman.

it's a white woman that KNOWS that a black woman is the mother of mankind.

how many average, every day black women know that FACT? and if so, why don't they fucking act like they are the mother of all mankind?

"The true worth of a race must be measured by the character of its womanhood."​

Mary Mcleod Bethune​

 

[DM5]

Yo fuck C.Powell on this one. She dropped so much truth that its not even funny. It needs to be read in it's entirety.

Kinda sad that this ether that we all needed comes from a baldheaded irish white woman. Shit, she has more pride in black america than many of you.

I wanted to find a part that I could call bullshit but I couldnt.

Great post.

Co- sign Brotha! This right here was on point and she dropped nothing but science!

 

[TheKingofVa]

that was deep

 

[GAMETHEORY]

I wish it had come out of Nicky Minaj or Rhianna or someone like Missy Eliot

 

[Cock Head Jones]

I wish it had come out of Nicky Minaj or Rhianna or someone like Missy Eliot

1 part sprite + 1 part bleach + 2 ice cubes. drink up boro.

 

[Brother Blaque]

Some brainwashed/brainless sheep hate on Sinead O'Connor because their CAC masters hate her for calling out that faggot ass CAC pope.

Well fuck the pope....

Nice post by Sinead O'Connor. ​

 

[TNazT]

That was a beautiful letter

It was... Props to her, had to smile...

 

[JTIMMY]

Great Drop....

 

[mangobob79]

^^^ and if a black person had said this publicly after a white child had been murdered, you dudes would call them the biggest uncle tom's in the history of mankind (and you'd be right).

i get what she is saying, but she oversold this shit.

i have never wanted to reply negatively to anything u say even tho i mostly never agree with you but thats the beauty of the board ,everybody has an opinion , some crazier than others BUT...IF U CANT SEE THE CONTEXT WITHIN WHICH HER LETTER RESONATES AND U THEN PROCEED TO TRY TO EQUATE FOR REFERENCE "IF A WHITE KID HAD BEEN MURDERED" THEN U'R LOST AND R REALLY A CAC IN HIDIN,! NOTHING WRONG IN BEING WHITE BUT A CAC IS A WHLE NOTHERTHING AND U JUST EXPOSED URSELF!

 

[NoodleArmWhimsy]

Again, when white people say OBVIOUS shit, BGOL goes nuts.

She's not even a relevant white person, just a random has been white person who has absolutely nothing to lose by stating the obvious.

I just don't get it.

I can't help but see the irony of your post.

 

[Chess005]

There was so much love radiating from that letter....if u can't feel at least that u need to do some soul searching cause I'm pretty sure there are other expressions of love in your own lives that ur missing out on too

truth

 

[big pimp]

yo fuck c.powell on this one. She dropped so much truth that its not even funny. It needs to be read in it's entirety.

Kinda sad that this ether that we all needed comes from a baldheaded irish white woman. Shit, she has more pride in black america than many of you.

I wanted to find a part that i could call bullshit but i couldnt.

Great post.

c/s.

 

[HAR125LEM]

Fact is,

It took a WHITE Chick from Ireland to say something more poignant and REAL shit about the Martin tragedy than any of these rappers and Ghetto-Fabulous chicks will ever say. And that's some sad shit.

O'Connor dropped some REAL Science.

She didn't have to wait to write a song about it.

She didn't give A FUCK what her record company had worries about. As small a label as it is anyway. So you know they don't give a fuck either.

She definitely didn't do it to gain new fans. Though I bet she will now.

SHE JUST DID IT!

 

[junyloko]

Great read


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[1984]

If you haven't heard Sinead reggae album Throw Down Your Arms, you should check it out, it is excellent.

 

[Mello Mello]

Damn where she been and damn is that her now?