Should Robert Downey Jr. Have Gotten A Pass for Doing Tropic Thunder?

tallblacknyc

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Yeah, but Cruise didn’t take the role and Downey Jr. did.
- RDJ is Iron man.
- Tom Cruise is not.
Both men were in Tropic Thunder and both men's performances were well received by audiences as a result.... :dunno:
you said it wouldn't do numbers without downey.. I said it would've with cruise.. Proving your theory wrong... Juss like I posted about the history of marvel and why it was such a success on film
 

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Good satire always offends some. It's the nature of the Genre. Many people hated bamboozled for the black face and it's one of my favorite movies of all time. There is a difference between mimicry and mockery. Nothing about RDJ character was meant to mock black people or black culture if anything the booty juice guy was more offensive to rappers than RDJ was to black people. And I am super quick to cancel white actors for blackface. Literally it's probably the only portrayal I have ever seen that worked satirically and comedically.
 

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Megyn Kelly Is Mad That Robert Downey Jr. Has a Career Post-Blackface
The former underperforming daytime host complains that when she had one of those “necessary convos” about blackface, NBC said "F.U.! Cancelled!
BY LUKE DARBY
January 23, 2020

Bruce Glikas

A year and a half ago, Megyn Kelly lost her NBC morning segment, Megyn Kelly Today. She got the boot after a segment with an all-white panel on racist Halloween costumes, when she opined that blackface used to be fine. "You do get in trouble if you are a white person who puts on blackface on Halloween, or a black person who puts on whiteface for Halloween. Back when I was a kid, that was okay, as long as you were dressing up as a character," she said.

She went on, referring to Luann de Lesseps of The Real Housewives of New Yorkwho put on blackface for a Diana Ross costume: "She dressed as Diana Ross and she made her skin look darker than it really is. And people said that was racist, and I don’t know. I thought, like, who doesn’t love Diana Ross? She wants to look like Diana Ross for one day? I don’t know how that got racist on Halloween."
The segment had been dropping in the ratings since Kelly took over—18 percentlower than when Al Roker was in the same time slot. She also struggled to connect with either viewers or the in-studio audience, as one particularly cringe-inducing dance session with Hoda Kotb illustrated. Declaring that opposition to blackface was a new phenomenon might have been the right cover for the network to switch-up the lineup of the underperforming hour. After NBC cancelled its three-year contract with Kelly and she departed the show, ratings for the time slot jumped 10 percent. She left with her full $69 million salary, despite departing halfway through it.

For her part, and despite keeping the full paycheck, Kelly still seems to think she was treated unfairly. Late Wednesday night, she tweeted out a link to an interview with Robert Downey Jr., during which the actor told podcast host Joe Rogan that he doesn't regret wearing blackface in the 2008 movie Tropic Thunder.


On one level, perhaps, it makes sense for Kelly to be frustrated about her ouster from NBC. Last year, political leaders like Canadian prime minister Justin Trudeau and Virginia governor Ralph Northam have both been exposed for dressing in blackface in the past, and neither of them were forced out. And Kelly said worse things while working for Fox News and never suffered professional repercussions for it, including getting hired at NBC. In 2015, when a Texas police officer slammed a black teenager in a swimsuit to the ground, Kelly said the girl "was no saint." In response to an essay about Santa Claus, she wrongly declared, "Jesus was a white man, too. It's like we have, he's a historical figure that's a verifiable fact, as is Santa, I just want kids to know that." When former first lady Michelle Obama talked about dealing with everyday racism in a Tuskeegee University commencement speech, Kelly lamented that it was part of a "culture of victimization" and that we were living in "Cupcake Nation." Which might be another way of describing a daytime host complaining about being let go from an underperforming show and still pulling in $69 million.

In the interview with Joe Rogan, Downey did say that he thought his role sparked a necessary conversation, though he qualified the claim: "I think that it’s never an excuse to do something that’s out of place and out of its time, but to me it blasted the cap on [the issue]." He added, "I think having a moral psychology is job one. Sometimes, you just gotta go, 'Yeah I effed up.' In my defense, Tropic Thunder is about how wrong [blackface] is, so I take exception." Downey said that he was originally very reluctant to take the role of an Australian method actor who was pretending to be black for a role. Though even his mother was "horrified," Downey said he ultimately accepted the part since it highlighted the "insane self-involved hypocrisy of artists."

This will probably not be the last we hear on the issue from Kelly. She's scheduled to appear on Real Time with Bill Maher this Friday.
 

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His character was in blackface. He takes it off at some point in the movie to reveal his blond character.
 

Pworld297

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I never seen the movie but he's actually a favorite actor of mine. Especially the role he played in Less than Zero, I never wanted to do drugs after watching that performance, he was damn good in that movie.
 

phanatic

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This broad:lol:

This is who the millenials who refer to white people as "not woke" are talking about. She's 100% full of shit or she is so fucking entitled, and she can't see the different between making blackface comments as herself, and an actor that is playing an actor that's playing a character.
 

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I never seen the movie but he's actually a favorite actor of mine. Especially the role he played in Less than Zero, I never wanted to do drugs after watching that performance, he was damn good in that movie.


Outside of Marvel only movie I ever watched of his was black and white because Mike Tyson roughed him up
 
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Good satire always offends some. It's the nature of the Genre. Many people hated bamboozled for the black face and it's one of my favorite movies of all time. There is a difference between mimicry and mockery. Nothing about RDJ character was meant to mock black people or black culture if anything the booty juice guy was more offensive to rappers than RDJ was to black people. And I am super quick to cancel white actors for blackface. Literally it's probably the only portrayal I have ever seen that worked satirically and comedically.

I wish Joe Rogan would have Spike Lee on his podcast and ask him about this. I loved this movie and the fact that it's satire and it was the exact same thing in Tropic Thunder is the same...I remember Spike Lee said Tommy Davidson and Savion Glover had a hard time putting on that makeup every day..I
 

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Megyn Kelly Is Mad That Robert Downey Jr. Has a Career Post-Blackface
The former underperforming daytime host complains that when she had one of those “necessary convos” about blackface, NBC said "F.U.! Cancelled!
BY LUKE DARBY
January 23, 2020

Bruce Glikas

A year and a half ago, Megyn Kelly lost her NBC morning segment, Megyn Kelly Today. She got the boot after a segment with an all-white panel on racist Halloween costumes, when she opined that blackface used to be fine. "You do get in trouble if you are a white person who puts on blackface on Halloween, or a black person who puts on whiteface for Halloween. Back when I was a kid, that was okay, as long as you were dressing up as a character," she said.

She went on, referring to Luann de Lesseps of The Real Housewives of New Yorkwho put on blackface for a Diana Ross costume: "She dressed as Diana Ross and she made her skin look darker than it really is. And people said that was racist, and I don’t know. I thought, like, who doesn’t love Diana Ross? She wants to look like Diana Ross for one day? I don’t know how that got racist on Halloween."
The segment had been dropping in the ratings since Kelly took over—18 percentlower than when Al Roker was in the same time slot. She also struggled to connect with either viewers or the in-studio audience, as one particularly cringe-inducing dance session with Hoda Kotb illustrated. Declaring that opposition to blackface was a new phenomenon might have been the right cover for the network to switch-up the lineup of the underperforming hour. After NBC cancelled its three-year contract with Kelly and she departed the show, ratings for the time slot jumped 10 percent. She left with her full $69 million salary, despite departing halfway through it.

For her part, and despite keeping the full paycheck, Kelly still seems to think she was treated unfairly. Late Wednesday night, she tweeted out a link to an interview with Robert Downey Jr., during which the actor told podcast host Joe Rogan that he doesn't regret wearing blackface in the 2008 movie Tropic Thunder.


On one level, perhaps, it makes sense for Kelly to be frustrated about her ouster from NBC. Last year, political leaders like Canadian prime minister Justin Trudeau and Virginia governor Ralph Northam have both been exposed for dressing in blackface in the past, and neither of them were forced out. And Kelly said worse things while working for Fox News and never suffered professional repercussions for it, including getting hired at NBC. In 2015, when a Texas police officer slammed a black teenager in a swimsuit to the ground, Kelly said the girl "was no saint." In response to an essay about Santa Claus, she wrongly declared, "Jesus was a white man, too. It's like we have, he's a historical figure that's a verifiable fact, as is Santa, I just want kids to know that." When former first lady Michelle Obama talked about dealing with everyday racism in a Tuskeegee University commencement speech, Kelly lamented that it was part of a "culture of victimization" and that we were living in "Cupcake Nation." Which might be another way of describing a daytime host complaining about being let go from an underperforming show and still pulling in $69 million.

In the interview with Joe Rogan, Downey did say that he thought his role sparked a necessary conversation, though he qualified the claim: "I think that it’s never an excuse to do something that’s out of place and out of its time, but to me it blasted the cap on [the issue]." He added, "I think having a moral psychology is job one. Sometimes, you just gotta go, 'Yeah I effed up.' In my defense, Tropic Thunder is about how wrong [blackface] is, so I take exception." Downey said that he was originally very reluctant to take the role of an Australian method actor who was pretending to be black for a role. Though even his mother was "horrified," Downey said he ultimately accepted the part since it highlighted the "insane self-involved hypocrisy of artists."

This will probably not be the last we hear on the issue from Kelly. She's scheduled to appear on Real Time with Bill Maher this Friday.


Megyn "Santa is just White" Kelly needs to STFU...
 

phanatic

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I wish Joe Rogan would have Spike Lee on his podcast and ask him about this. I loved this movie and the fact that it's satire and it was the exact same thing in Tropic Thunder is the same...I remember Spike Lee said Tommy Davidson and Savion Glover had a hard time putting on that makeup every day..I

No one should be comfortable putting blackface on, and that's what that stupid cunt Megyn Kelly doesn't want to understand. If she doesn't get the problem with it, she put on some blackface and walk around the city.
 

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Downey never offended me.

Cause i got what they were doing.

They were going at the pretentiousness of these white actors.

This wasn't soul man which i am still shocked at the time black folk let that go.

Which is why the outcry over this old movie that got a damn oscar nomination is fake as hell.

We got enough REAL attacks on black people to waste energy on this damn near decade + old movie.

We aint this offended when white judges and white elected officials clown us in real life.
 

playahaitian

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These folks better not go back and watch the mask of zorro with Anthony Hopkins and Catherine Zeta jones

:lol:

Or the last air bender by m. Night
 

Pworld297

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I never seen this, I will have to check it out. From black folks I talked to says it's funny as hell.


Check out this story from USA TODAY: Ben Stiller stands by controversial comedy 'Tropic Thunder': 'Proud of it'

Ben Stiller is standing by his controversial comedy "Tropic Thunder."

 

D24OHA

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I never seen this, I will have to check it out. From black folks I talked to says it's funny as hell.


Check out this story from USA TODAY: Ben Stiller stands by controversial comedy 'Tropic Thunder': 'Proud of it'

Ben Stiller is standing by his controversial comedy "Tropic Thunder."


Could never make a movie like that now, society is too "woke,".....

But back then, that shit was really good
 

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Back then no one really gave a shit it was funny, he wasn't the first one to do it. These snowflakes would not be able to handle some of the TV shows and Movies from the 70s on up. Don't like don't watch it move the fuck on :itsawrap:
 

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Back then no one really gave a shit it was funny, he wasn't the first one to do it. These snowflakes would not be able to handle some of the TV shows and Movies from the 70s on up. Don't like don't watch it move the fuck on :itsawrap:

He got a pass because of the success of ironman and people are hypocrites.
 

Pworld297

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I never seen this, I will have to check it out. From black folks I talked to says it's funny as hell.


Check out this story from USA TODAY: Ben Stiller stands by controversial comedy 'Tropic Thunder': 'Proud of it'

Ben Stiller is standing by his controversial comedy "Tropic Thunder."

Yeah Eddie Murphy's Delirious would have all kinds of protest today.. Smh lol
 
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