Should Robert Downey Jr. Have Gotten A Pass for Doing Tropic Thunder?

stizz3000

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its a shame this has to be explained to dumb niggas every couple of years

shit, they even have an argument in the movie about them choosing to do blackface instead of hiring a black actor

damn our culture stupid as fuck


some of these comments make me cringe...its like, "you dont really believe that, do you"
 

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Did it require him to be in black face? They couldn’t choose another way to express the method actors methodology? You think they really thought it out like that or did they just want to use black face and found a clever way to avoid any controversy?

The point was that Hollywood often hires white actors for roles that are focused on people of color (Gods of Egypt for example), they took that and exaggerated it to a really high level, which is where the comedy comes from. Downey Jr was playing an Australian method actor that is playing a black southerner...it's the ultimate exaggeration of studio heads that don't believe that a black actor can draw an audience.
 

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some of these comments make me cringe...its like, "you dont really believe that, do you"

It's cool if someone is hit personally by the character, but I think it's a "can't see the forest for the trees" type of scenario. We are trying to explain the symbolism, but if it isn't getting through, I can't do anything about that. Let's not call each other names or question each other's blackness.
 

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cmon bruh....you better than that
Lol. Obviously not.
But I read your explanation/justification and don't have a problem with it. That's why I was honest about not seeing it.
Still no pass from me tho, smh, nope! The day of the geechie is over! White or black.
 

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The point was that Hollywood often hires white actors for roles that are focused on people of color (Gods of Egypt for example), they took that and exaggerated it to a really high level, which is where the comedy comes from. Downey Jr was playing an Australian method actor that is playing a black southerner...it's the ultimate exaggeration of studio heads that don't believe that a black actor can draw an audience.
Bro, you do know that Jason ain't Blacc right? Home is Mexican and just wants to be down...stop trying to explain shit to that Wettback...he won't get it.
 

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i think we ask this question every couple yrs n even post a few clips to go with it ...

the answer is still yes ....its comedy n the shit was funny
I know it's been discussed over the years. I just figured I post this because Downey addresses it directly and it's the 10th anniversary of the film.

I will say it's interesting the difference in Downey's response to his Tropic Thunder character vs Eddie Murphy's apology tour he's been doing as of late in regards to his gay jokes from the the 80's.
 

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The point was that Hollywood often hires white actors for roles that are focused on people of color (Gods of Egypt for example), they took that and exaggerated it to a really high level, which is where the comedy comes from. Downey Jr was playing an Australian method actor that is playing a black southerner...it's the ultimate exaggeration of studio heads that don't believe that a black actor can draw an audience.




I get that. Why not an Asian? I just don’t see them creating this with what you stated in mind.

Where any black writers associated with this project? I searched but couldn’t find any. Just Ben Stillers and his buddies.
 
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I get that. Why not an Asian? I just don’t see them creating this with what you stated in mind.

Where any black writers associated with this project? I searched but couldn’t find any. Just Ben Stillers and his buddies.
they would of never had a black method actor playing a jew... Or a method actor playing a fag... Like I said he got an Oscar nomination for it that shows them fag jews in Hollywood thoroughly enjoyed that role for why a racist would love that role... We did a blackface without it being a blackface in the movie where people will accept it brilliant give him a nomination
 

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they would of never had a black method actor playing a jew... Or a method actor playing a fag... Like I said he got an Oscar nomination for it that shows them fag jews in Hollywood thoroughly enjoyed that role for why a racist would love that role... We did a blackface without it being a blackface in the movie where people will accept it brilliant give him a nomination


Definitely could’ve made him gay. Only reason why it’s getting a pass by these cats because it was funny to them. No way Ben Stiller did this to bring attention to anything.
 

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The day of the geechie is over! White or black.

no shit. the portrayal/ parody is saying the same thing, which means you still dont get it.

the character is written to purposely make fun of clueless white people insensitive to issues of race by casting a white person to play a white character full of himself thats insensitive to issues of race

how else to you portray that image?
 

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We've forgotten how many passes that have been given for a laugh's sake.

Made a good sample through.



 

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Cause he was an actor playing a black dude in a movie...The comedy of it was he was a hardcore actor that would take on challenging roles man!

If he would have been jumping around like a monkey or saying stupid ass stereotypical shit like "Jive turkey" or "yessa massa' then it would have been blackface.
Hey, wait a fucking minute. I say jive turkey all the goddamn time...I'm trying to bring that shit back
 

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Nothing really to get a pass for. It wasn't presented as Robert Downey Jr. playing a black guy in a film... it was Robert Downey Jr. playing a bit of an asshole actor who takes method acting to the extreme. I could see if it was a problem within the movie (fictional audience anger over the character wearing blackface) but I don't see a problem with it outside of the movie keeping in mind how it was written.
 

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No problem with his role. It was a comedy and it was done in good taste. Do y'all condemn Chappell for wearing white face in his skits? I actually thought that movie could of been funnier if it wasn't so PC about this.
 

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All blackface is offensive to one degree or another. But this wasn't actually blackface per se. In context, it wasn't the worst I've seen and I'm pretty sure RDJ is not known as a racist.
Pass? No, but no censure either. We have to be careful about the hidden messages in these types of things. I don't think it was approached with a racist intent but ANY stereotype, comedic or not, should be frowned upon and rejected. Enough of this shit. I'm tired of Black people being the but of jokes.
 

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All blackface is offensive to one degree or another. But this wasn't actually blackface per se. In context, it wasn't the worst I've seen and I'm pretty sure RDJ is not known as a racist.
Pass? No, but no censure either. We have to be careful about the hidden messages in these types of things. I don't think it was approached with a racist intent but ANY stereotype, comedic or not, should be frowned upon and rejected. Enough of this shit. I'm tired of Black people being the but of jokes.

In the context of the movie, black people weren't the butt of the jokes. Brandon T Jackson's character called him out at damn near every turn.

Hollywood execs and the overly extreme "method actors" were the butt of the joke.
 

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Here’s Howard Stern on Petey Greene’s show in black face. Howard Stern gets away with so much. I don’t know how. :dunno:



 

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The same "woke" people who ask this asinine question are the same people who were 1st in line to see these films starring RDJ.
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And clearly, the success of these films prove that audiences (of ALL races) have long since moved passed any bullshit "perceived" issues with RDJ in Tropic Thunder.

It's amazing.
12 years later, and these silly, fake ass "woke" people are still asking this stupid fucking question.... :hmm:
 
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tallblacknyc

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The same "woke" people who ask this asinine question are the same people who were 1st in line to see these films starring RDJ.
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And clearly, the success of these films prove that audiences (of ALL races) have long since moved passed any bullshit "perceived" issues with RDJ in Tropic Thunder.

It's amazing.
12 years later, and these silly, fake ass "woke" people are still asking this stupid fucking question.... :hmm:
Thanks to this beautiful thing called the internet every marvel movie I've seen was for free right on this thing called laptop
Or tablet.. Man I love the internet
 

CptMARVEL

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Thanks to this beautiful thing called the internet every marvel movie I've seen was for free right on this thing called laptop
Or tablet.. Man I love the internet
Which also proves my point.
At the time of their release, ALL of those films were the most pirated/downloaded films online as well.
And in spite of the internet piracy, those movies still went on to be the highest grossing films of the year. (In the case of Endgame, the highest grossing film of ALL TIME). :yes:
 

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Which also proves my point.
At the time of their release, ALL of those films were the most pirated/downloaded films online as well.
And in spite of the internet piracy, those movies still went on to be the highest grossing films of the year. (In the case of Endgame, the highest grossing film of ALL TIME). :yes:
50 yr history... Millions of comic books published... Various tv shows for the past several decades... A decade long run movie series... 7.6 billion possible consumers... Released worldwide... When you add all those factors up no wonder it did so good... People were fans of the characters..not saying downey didn't do a good job in most films but he was in a role that had an already built fanbase... Hell a wack movie juss made a billion about some loser in a clown mask... They just so happened to say it was an untold story of 1 of the most notorious villain in comic book history and people ran out to see it... Take away the connection to the comic book world that s hit is lucky to be a Netflix film at best...the power of comic books and built in cult following... You juss proved how big the comic book world is
 
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