Sean Connery on slapping women.

You are in the belief women to have the right to engage in mental abuse of men, then get mad when shit gets physical. I don't believe that, and i never said that.

I just want to know why do you want to do it.EYE don't. And i never have.

And yes, I will keep pointing at women, because they are sometimes both the ones who start it, and the ones who get the automatic victim stampSo let me get this straight. You REALLY believe that it's ok to take things up from words to violence? Like this is reasonable to you?

How about we dont abuse each other, understand each other, and stop doing shit for petty gains in power and control, you know, act like adults

Lets not play wishing games. We're all too old for it.
 
All of us seem to be going back and forth with this, so let me say this one more time...

No one is advocating wanton violence against women!Eh...we disagree there.

What you're NOT acknowledging is that you are seemingly giving a pass to women who knowingly push a man's buttons (i.e., that it is perfectly okay to do this because she is a woman, since she is emotional being by nature), which can lead to an unpleasant situation...I am acknowledging that women by far are USUALLY more emo than males are. Do we agree or disagree on this? Do YOU acknowledge it? If you don't then i see where i disagreement begins.

Let me say it one more time...

IT IS NOT OKAY TO HIT SOMEONE OVER WORDS, BUT IT IS ALSO WRONG TO TRY TO INSTIGATE A SITUATION WITH WORDS! I disagree. Words never got me to hit anybody. Using words to instigate is what we do here all the time. It's communication bro.IF WE TREAT EACH OTHER WITH RESPECT - WHICH MEANS NOT BAITING PEOPLE, SAYING SNIDE, RUDE, AND DISRESPECTFUL COMMENTS, ETC. - THERE WILL BE NO IMPETUS FOR VIOLENCE UNLESS THE PERSON COMMITTING THE VIOLENCE HAS STABILITY ISSUES. IF A PERSON WANTS TO BE DISRESPECTFUL TO YOU, LEAVE THAT PERSON ALONE!!!!! You're not being reasonable. And i'll say this....this is OPTIMAL. This is what everyone would LIKE to happen. But you can't in the same breath say...it's not ok to hit, and then say well if you SAY this to me then you should be prepared to be hit.

Of course, if someone hits you, then you have the right to defend yourself...

I came across a good article about "fighting fair" in relationships...hope it helps anyone who needs it...I just have to discuss with you about this. Have you ever been in a relationship with a woman? Not an insult but a question to set up another.

I ask because i can't believe you would think that kind of thing goes through someones head when they're upset. Emotionally charged. Seriously?


http://www.drphil.com/articles/article/20

Thank you, and goodnight.

You're welcome, holla at ya tomorrah
 
Thank you info. So who does it behoove to control themselves in this situation man? if i'm sitting there yacking my mouth who does it behoove to control themselves?

We're at that point now. This is the point where we're at with all of this. We're dreaming and making situations to fit our arguments here.

You have a woman who's raising caine...you know if you hit her you're going to jail? So .... what is in your BEST INTERESTS TO DO.

your reinforcing what I am saying without even knowing it...I guarantee that you are interpreting it very differently than what the men are reading.

you will not ever convince us, the men, to your point of view,

why?

because the consequences are almost too real for us, and simply a game or an idea for you...
 
How much longer are the ones who are arguing with logic and reason going to keep stating our case, and still not being comprehended?

Sean Connery, in the vid said he gave up, he surrendered, gave the wife the last word, but she wasnt happy, wasnt satisfied, still pressed on. What do you expect a human to do when he stopped and didnt want to fight, but the wife was just being a confrontational cunt?

Learning to let it go and make peace would prevent so much shit.

But instead, advocating the right to instigate and irritate, but refuse to accept teh consequences of those actions

Men do not have such luxuries, especially black men

We are very aware of the consequences of our actions, we are reminded of that everyday

What we dont want is to be attacked and berated by someone who dont think they should suffer for anything they do wrong, then the more primal instincts take over after the logical instincts gets severely taxed
 
your reinforcing what I am saying without even knowing it...I guarantee that you are interpreting it very differently than what the men are reading.

you will not ever convince us, the men, to your point of view,

why?

because the consequences are almost too real for us, and simply a game or an idea for you...

The consequences are very real for you. Which is why you should keep your hands to yourself. How do you not make this connection? I'm getting the impression you're using the logic of my kids, "well i hit him because he was looking at me funny."

That's not going to fly. "he shoulda been watchin where he was staring." "She shoulda watched her mouth."

So that's why you an adult male person decided to hit another being? Because of their words? You talk about logic and reality. There's nothing logical about what you're saying. Nothing at all. I'm SO glad my husband was not 1 to share this view. I'm not a cantankerous woman, but god. There's no telling what excuses or reasons you people will come up with to justify your violence.

Sweet mother of god. You're right. I will never see this as something OK. I will never see your point of view that words should be responded too by hitting. No. I won't. And thank goodness the police don't either.
 
The consequences are very real for you. Which is why you should keep your hands to yourself. How do you not make this connection? I'm getting the impression you're using the logic of my kids, "well i hit him because he was looking at me funny."

That's not going to fly. "he shoulda been watchin where he was staring." "She shoulda watched her mouth."

So that's why you an adult male person decided to hit another being? Because of their words? You talk about logic and reality. There's nothing logical about what you're saying. Nothing at all. I'm SO glad my husband was not 1 to share this view. I'm not a cantankerous woman, but god. There's no telling what excuses or reasons you people will come up with to justify your violence.

Sweet mother of god. You're right. I will never see this as something OK. I will never see your point of view that words should be responded too by hitting. No. I won't. And thank goodness the police don't either.
lol at this bullshit...


nobody is denying that we will deal with the consequences...


we know that we do and we will, go back and read the responses

the men here are arguing on PRINCIPLE...DONT START NO SHIT WONT BE NOT SHIT...WE WILL DEAL WITH THE CONSEQUENCES AS MEN REGARDLESS

u are arguing responsibility over who started what and are trying to wiggle out of any responsibilty that lands on top of the women who start these fights be it constant verbal and/or psychological abuse of their men

smh...
 
How much longer are the ones who are arguing with logic and reason going to keep stating our case, and still not being comprehended?Brother your case is flawed. The case of the woman shoulda just shut her trap. Is not 1 of logic or reason.

Sean Connery, in the vid said he gave up, he surrendered, gave the wife the last word, but she wasnt happy, wasnt satisfied, still pressed on. What do you expect a human to do when he stopped and didnt want to fight, but the wife was just being a confrontational cunt?You leave. If she's like this? You divorce her. Leave. That's what you do. You set up your case for divorce and you leave. Or you make her leave. Either way. Remove someone from the situation

Learning to let it go and make peace would prevent so much shit.
Yes it would.
But instead, advocating the right to instigate and irritate, but refuse to accept teh consequences of those actionsI advocate the right to speak as one chooses. Without having violence enacted upon you for doing so. Even you sir. Should be able to speak your will without someone hitting you for it.

Men do not have such luxuries, especially black men

We are very aware of the consequences of our actions, we are reminded of that everydayThen should you really be going around hitting people? I don't think black men who do this or think this way are that aware after all.

What we dont want is to be attacked and berated by someone who dont think they should suffer for anything they do wrong, then the more primal instincts take over after the logical instincts gets severely taxed

As a man then you should remove yourself from a bad situation. Wouldn't that be what you'd tell a woman in the same turn? If she was with someone who was "terrorizing" her? Being attacked? Would you tell her to leave? Or would you tell her to hit him?
 
lol at this bullshit...


nobody is denying that we will deal with the consequences...


we know that we do and we will, go back and read the responses

the men here are arguing on PRINCIPLE...DONT START NO SHIT WONT BE NOT SHIT...WE WILL DEAL WITH THE CONSEQUENCES AS MEN REGARDLESS

u are arguing responsibility over who started what and are trying to wiggle out of any responsibilty that lands on top of the women who start these fights be it constant verbal and/or psychological abuse of their men

smh...

Ok. Well hit away fellas. I have a question though, prior to getting in relationships, do you tell women that you will hit them if you don't like the things they're saying?
 
How much longer are the ones who are arguing with logic and reason going to keep stating our case, and still not being comprehended?

Sean Connery, in the vid said he gave up, he surrendered, gave the wife the last word, but she wasnt happy, wasnt satisfied, still pressed on. What do you expect a human to do when he stopped and didnt want to fight, but the wife was just being a confrontational cunt?

Learning to let it go and make peace would prevent so much shit.

But instead, advocating the right to instigate and irritate, but refuse to accept teh consequences of those actions

Men do not have such luxuries, especially black men

We are very aware of the consequences of our actions, we are reminded of that everyday

What we dont want is to be attacked and berated by someone who dont think they should suffer for anything they do wrong, then the more primal instincts take over after the logical instincts gets severely taxed



This is the last time Im gonna post because its obviously not sinking in with certain people. The whole its wrong to hit a female shit is a societal rule. Getting pissed of is a primal instinct... By the law striking anyone is wrong, point blank. But just because you make something against the law doesnt mean that it will rule out a basic instinct. So yeah... Im going to go to jail if I hit anyone, but the urge will still be there regardless, as its an instinct... So if a female wants to taunt, and poke and fall prey to her instincts, how can she really fault anyone, male, female or otherwise who fall prey to theirs... People are saying its wrong and because its wrong Im supposed to not be human???...

We were here before the rules were, so if someone, anyone is pissing another human off, that person is more than likely gonna react instinctively. IMO if the rules wernt there... More people would watch what they say, especially females. The fact is females talk reckless because they have the law on their side... Take that law away and it wouldnt take long for all that neck rollin, attitude havin, insult hurlin to be corrected...

So yes... Hitting any person for words is wrong because the law says its wrong, lets break it down and be real here. Humans are more than capable of policing themselves. The reason we have all these females steppin outta pocket is because society has taken the ability to police ourselves out of the equation... Prime example... I got popped in the mouth when I talked back to my parents... Lesson was... Watch your fucking mouth... I didnt hit my folks, just mouthed off... IMO the same shit really should apply in extreme cases because most females nowadays really aint shit but big ass babies... Im out...
 
Wow, Legacy...I cannot believe your answers to my last thread...it is as if you are not even comprehending what I am saying, and you just want to stick to your main point, and nothing else matters...I don't even know why I am trying to explain myself (not that I need to, either), but here goes...

Yes, I have been in many relationships with women...and I do know to avoid women who feel that they have to raise their voice and demean someone all the time to get their point across (especially when I am not even close to raising my voice). Although that inference was a bit insulting to me, I will not dignify your false assumption with my own observations that I made, based on your words (which would be no different that what you just did).

The woman I deal with now does not raise her voice (or her hand) to me, and I don't raise my voice (or my hand) to her...we have a mutual love, admiration and respect for each other, even when we may not like what each other says or does on occasion, that prevents any situation from escalating...

Yes, I agree that women tend to be more emotional...but that does NOT give a woman a pass to come at someone sideways and to try to instigate a situation...nor does a man have a right to hit that woman (unless he is being attacked for his life, in my opinion)...then all bets are off... I did not say that a woman should "be prepared to be hit" (your words) if she pops off at the mouth...I am just saying that no one has the right to try to demean someone by popping off at the mouth on them...that is just uncivilized...treating people with respect and expecting the same is quite reasonable - I don't see how in the world that is being unreasonable (your words)!

That article that I referenced to is about fighting fair...you say that when one is "emotionally charged", one cannot use these tactics to fight fair? If one can't do this, then maybe they don't have control over their emotions...which is a bit uncivilized, don't you think? It implies that you let your emotions take control over reasoning in a confrontation...I mean, he who angers me controls me, right? In your book, you should not let anyone get the best of your emotions...


even to the point of violence...


just sayin'...


I have said my peace, and I hope that everyone lives in it...One...
 
IN MY 35YRS OF LIFE, I HAVENT HAD TO HIT A WOMAN YET...DONT THINK I WILL EVER HAVE TOO..

HAVE I BEEN AROUND SOME CRAZY, STUPID-ASS, DUMB BITCHES...ABSOLUTELY...BUT WOMEN KNOW WHAT TYPE OF MAN YOU ARE FROM JUMP...SO THE MAJORITY OF THOSE WOMEN WHO DO THAT CRAZY SHIT IS BECAUSE THEY KNOW THEY CAN GET AWAY WITH THAT SHIT...DEALING WITH SOME PUSSY ASS DUDES!!!

THAT DOESNT MEAN I WONT CHOKE A BITCH..:lol::lol::lol:
 
This is the last time Im gonna post because its obviously not sinking in with certain people. The whole its wrong to hit a female shit is a societal rule. Getting pissed of is a primal instinct... By the law striking anyone is wrong, point blank. But just because you make something against the law doesnt mean that it will rule out a basic instinct. So yeah... Im going to go to jail if I hit anyone, but the urge will still be there regardless, as its an instinct... So if a female wants to taunt, and poke and fall prey to her instincts, how can she really fault anyone, male, female or otherwise who fall prey to theirs... People are saying its wrong and because its wrong Im supposed to not be human???...

We were here before the rules were, so if someone, anyone is pissing another human off, that person is more than likely gonna react instinctively. IMO if the rules wernt there... More people would watch what they say, especially females. The fact is females talk reckless because they have the law on their side... Take that law away and it wouldnt take long for all that neck rollin, attitude havin, insult hurlin to be corrected...

So yes... Hitting any person for words is wrong because the law says its wrong, lets break it down and be real here. Humans are more than capable of policing themselves. The reason we have all these females steppin outta pocket is because society has taken the ability to police ourselves out of the equation... Prime example... I got popped in the mouth when I talked back to my parents... Lesson was... Watch your fucking mouth... I didnt hit my folks, just mouthed off... IMO the same shit really should apply in extreme cases because most females nowadays really aint shit but big ass babies... Im out...

So you agree with me then. Ok.
 
Wow, Legacy...I cannot believe your answers to my last thread...it is as if you are not even comprehending what I am saying, and you just want to stick to your main point, and nothing else matters...Nothing else does matter to me besides the point of hitting for words is wrong, don't do it. I don't care what you say to me, i'm not going to hit you. I'm a grown up. I have much better control of myself than a child does sir. If i can do it, why can't you? I've never hit anyone for words used against me in my LIFE. And i come from a place where females were in arguments on an HOURLY basis.I don't even know why I am trying to explain myself (not that I need to, either), but here goes...

Yes, I have been in many relationships with women...and I do know to avoid women who feel that they have to raise their voice and demean someone all the time to get their point across Good. Very glad for this. Avoid'em(especially when I am not even close to raising my voice). Although that inference was a bit insulting to me, I will not dignify your false assumption with my own observations that I made, based on your words (which would be no different that what you just did).I apologize for the insult. I really try to not be. I had to rewrite things several times. Sorry again.

The woman I deal with now does not raise her voice (or her hand) to me, and I don't raise my voice (or my hand) to her...we have a mutual love, admiration and respect for each other, even when we may not like what each other says or does on occasion, that prevents any situation from escalating...Black Love! :yes:

Yes, I agree that women tend to be more emotional...but that does NOT give a woman a pass to come at someone sideways and to try to instigate a situation...Why not? Is it not freedom of speech? I personally believe in every adults right to free speech.nor does a man have a right to hit that woman (unless he is being attacked for his life, in my opinion)Somewhat agree. Depends on that situation and that man....then all bets are off... I did not say that a woman should "be prepared to be hit" (your words) if she pops off at the mouth...I am just saying that no one has the right to try to demean someone by popping off at the mouth on them...that is just uncivilized...treating people with respect and expecting the same is quite reasonable - I don't see how in the world that is being unreasonable (your words)! I reread what you wrote. I still disagree with your idea that a person doesn't have the RIGHT to speak as they wish. That's just....Yeah. I don't believe that.

That article that I referenced to is about fighting fair...you say that when one is "emotionally charged", one cannot use these tactics to fight fair? If one can't do this, then maybe they don't have control over their emotions...which is a bit uncivilized, don't you think? It implies that you let your emotions take control over reasoning in a confrontation...I mean, he who angers me controls me, right? In your book, you should not let anyone get the best of your emotions...


even to the point of violence...


just sayin'...So then you ARE saying...if a woman says something you don't like, because you're emotionally charged...she should expect to be hit...Just sayin?


I have said my peace, and I hope that everyone lives in it...One...

I hope there's no 1 getting hit from this kind of stuff.
 
Yep... If that bitch cant control her mouth, someone outta close it for her... But thats kinda against the law though... Doesn't stop it from being true though...

:lol: I wish for you to stay out of jail black man. Since you can't control yourself from hitting women who speak against what you wish them to say i pray for you to avoid this female species. :)
 
She had to give him props at the end "He's been married thirty-one years...never heard a peep." :lol:
 
:lol: I wish for you to stay out of jail black man. Since you can't control yourself from hitting women who speak against what you wish them to say i pray for you to avoid this female species. :)

I mean fuck it. She cant control her mouth, I cant control my fist, were both dysfunctional muthafuckas... She should be dead and me in jail...:lol:
 
FINAL ANSWER ON THIS...THIS IS GOING NOWHERE FAST...

First off, Legacy...yes you have freedom of speech, and no one is trying to take it away from you...however, as I'm sure you have heard before, with freedom comes responsibility...I may have the right to say whatever I want, but that doesn't mean I should...this is where self-control, tact, and maturity come into play...I stand by my comment that no one has the right to demean someone else with words...the power of the tongue is very formidable...I like peace in my life, and I talk to people the way I want to be talked to, and I have learned in my life that it is not always important to have the last word and to be right.

Lastly, I NEVER said that because an argument is emotionally charged, that a person should expect it to escalate into a violent situation...If two human beings have self-control, and if they "fight fair", then an argument can still be emotionally charged, but there will be no violence,,,read the article I provided, please, it will illustrate my point.

Alas, this is going around in circles, so we can agree to disagree...all I know is, I have never hit a woman, I have never been hit by a woman, and I know to stay away from women who feel that they can overtalk, loudtalk, and emotionally bully someone into seeing their point of view, because that is not acceptable human behavior in my book...and quite a few people (men and women) would agree with me. Peace, blessings, and good luck.
 
women act like being hit or being called a bitch is blasphemy.... they hide behind a shroud of delusion that because they cant get hit and 10 times out of ten if the cops get called the man is going to jail so they take advantage of the situation and lose their minds.... and refuse to acknowledge that behavior.....

i used to mess with a chick back in the day and she use to lay hands on me.... and i was still in that old mentality.... one day she hit me and i snatched her up pushed her against the wall and said "if u hit me one more time its gonna be a problem".... i wasnt going to hit her it was an empty threat, if anything i was gonna throw her out.... but guess what almost instantly the arguement stopped and she was suddenly nice and i got some after that... it took me "laying hand on her" to get that respect....but i shouldnt have had to do that in the first place...:smh:
 
FINAL ANSWER ON THIS...THIS IS GOING NOWHERE FAST...

First off, Legacy...yes you have freedom of speech, and no one is trying to take it away from you...however, as I'm sure you have heard before, with freedom comes responsibility...I may have the right to say whatever I want, but that doesn't mean I should...this is where self-control, tact, and maturity come into play...I stand by my comment that no one has the right to demean someone else with words...the power of the tongue is very formidable...I like peace in my life, and I talk to people the way I want to be talked to, and I have learned in my life that it is not always important to have the last word and to be right.

Lastly, I NEVER said that because an argument is emotionally charged, that a person should expect it to escalate into a violent situation...If two human beings have self-control, and if they "fight fair", then an argument can still be emotionally charged, but there will be no violence,,,read the article I provided, please, it will illustrate my point.

Alas, this is going around in circles, so we can agree to disagree...all I know is, I have never hit a woman, I have never been hit by a woman, and I know to stay away from women who feel that they can overtalk, loudtalk, and emotionally bully someone into seeing their point of view, because that is not acceptable human behavior in my book...and quite a few people (men and women) would agree with me. Peace, blessings, and good luck.

Yeah, they shouldn't be hitting people for talking. No excuses. Don't do it. It's not going to benefit them in anyway shape or form. It's lose lose.
 
Yeah, they shouldn't be hitting people for talking. No excuses. Don't do it. It's not going to benefit them in anyway shape or form. It's lose lose.
Wow @ the energy and emotion you've invested in this thread. Have you even been able to sleep over the last few days???
 
Yeah, they shouldn't be hitting people for talking. No excuses. Don't do it. It's not going to benefit them in anyway shape or form. It's lose lose.

I have agreed with you, and I have said this over and over, yet you still refuse to acknowledge that trying to bait and hurt someone in an argument is wrong (and many people would agree with me here)...so I'm done...you need to have the last word (which I am not surprised, BTW)...you won, I'm done...I'm walking away (like you advocate)...

Hmmm...I wonder if this how your disagreements tend to go in real life...

Read Dale Carnegie's How To Win Friends and Influence People, specifically the chapter, "You Can't Win An Argument"...it might help you to see that no one benefits from trying to be right all the time...peace...
 
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i was wondering why this thread was staying on the front page. now i understand.

i had to explain this to a chick one time. i had to tell her, "if you keep running your mouth you only leave me two options."

1. bust your ass.
2. leave you alone.

she didn't want either option so she shut the fuck up. and i didn't have an issue after that.

women constantly test men to see what they can get away with. just like legacy infinity. she has demonstrated before that she has common sense. sometimes common sense includes the ability to just shut the fuck up. and that includes both men and women.
 
and one more thing. women know who they can talk shit to and who they cant.

and dudes don't talk shit (to someone's face) unless they ready to fight or they know they will get tightened up.
 
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