Sean Connery on slapping women.

if a woman slaps or punches me expect the same treatment....don't put your hands on someone and expect not to get hit back.....

I don't advocate slapping women for talking tho.....thats just stupid....
 
No sir. I do not believe that because i pop big caps verbally that a man should or has the right to, lay his hands on me. No matter how big, how strong, how fast he is. None of that has anything to do with what i'm saying. No man in my opinion would. Because a man in my view knows how to contain himself and keep his cool under pressure. Anything else is an excuse for weakness.

Just how i see it. We obviously disagree. You touch me? You're going to jail. Why is it that everyone seems to understand this but you people who think it's ok to hit? Why does this escape you that hitting escalates things to an unreasonable level?

I teach my children, to use words. When physical confronation is called for only when it has been meted out, or threatned upon. And or you feel in fear for your safety. You counter words with words.

Children aren't expected to always control themselves. Grown men should be.



Youre reading... But not fully comprehending... I never said that putting your hands on someone is acceptable unless its done to you first. I said that if women respected men the same way they would a female youd have a lot less females talking reckless... Two females arguing are only gonna go so far because in the back of their head they know if the shit keeps up somebody is gonna swing on somebody. This fear checks the angry spirit. Because women dont have this innate fear of men they continue to pop off. Thats the wrong way to go about business. You should respect the other person point, blank, period. If youre hurling insults youre not respecting me. While thats not reason enough to make it physical, I have the feeling that if the laws and society wernt on your side, and you knew I could fuck you up the same way a female would youd tread more lightly... I dont see how this point is being missed on your part. Not questioning your intelligence, it just seems that youre hung on the wrong thing...
 
I do agree. And those aren't women. Those are children vying for negative reinforced attention. If the topic were, "What to do about women who when i disagree with them they turn to hitting me." My responses would be much different.

You guys are trying to intentionally blur a line. You're trying to find reasons to justify hitting a woman who's using words against you.

You're escalating things to suit your desires. And i'm not. I'm speaking solely on what i'm reading in this thread and what that Mr. Connery said in that video. The big ups and mad daps are occurring to what he said in that video.

There's no excuse for it. Why do you think you'll go to jail if you do it? You think the system just hates you and wants to put you in jail? Because you hit a woman? Dude if you hit ANYBODY you're going to jail.

What the hell is up with this violence?

Whoa, wait a minute...don't use "you guys"...I'm not trying to justify any violence...no one should be hitting anyone...and although if a man hits a woman, he will go to jail, If a woman hits a man, she will not go to jail more often than not, btw...
 
Usual behavior would dictate this. But in arguements when words are being used, why do you want to escalate to hitting me for my words used?

Only weak men hit women over words

its when the situation gets out of control, the confrontation becomes physical, and lets face it, some females use this to test men to see how far they can get in disrespecting the fool before escalating shit out of control

And thank you for noticing how I separate women and females

Real women act with decorum and decency and know when to fight and let it go.

Females are just women by biology, dont know the first thing about acting like a lady, but uses the fact they are female as an excuse to go out of pocket with people

I think the other posters are referring to situation to when females just keep pushing the issue, escalating shit which leads to something physical, or doing something so uber out of pocket, a two piece to the cabbage is just second nature

All people have limits, even the most stable of men, push past that limit and you will see the the inner Ike Turner that he's was never there to teh surface
 
if a woman slaps or punches me expect the same treatment....don't put your hands on someone and expect not to get hit back.....

I don't advocate slapping women for talking tho.....thats just stupid....
thank you. (and a few others said that, but we got some special ones here too)
 


I cant post a youtube....

Six in every 10 women who are victims of homicide were murdered by someone they knew. About half of these women were murdered by a spouse or someone with whom they had been intimate.

Domestic violence is the leading cause of injury to women between the ages of 15-44.
Every 21 days, a woman is killed by domestic violence.

Children are involved in 60 percent of domestic violence cases.
More than three million children witness acts of domestic violence each year.

Up to 50 percent of all homeless women and children in this country are fleeing domestic violence.

One in ten calls made to alert police of domestic violence is placed by a child in the home.

More than 53 percent of male abusers beat their children.

More than 2.5 million females experience some form of violence each year. Almost two of every three of these females are attacked by a relative or person known to them.
I'm just saying. You think posting that video to me is supposed to mean something compared to these statistics? Seriously?
 
Legacy... Im gonna ask you a question, you can choose to answer or not and Im truly not trying to be funny. But have you been a victim of domestic abuse??? It seems like theres some underlying issue that inhibits you from grasping what most of the male posters are saying.
 
Youre reading... But not fully comprehending... I never said that putting your hands on someone is acceptable unless its done to you first. I said that if women respected men the same way they would a female youd have a lot less females talking reckless... Two females arguing are only gonna go so far because in the back of their head they know if the shit keeps up somebody is gonna swing on somebody. This fear checks the angry spirit. Because women dont have this innate fear of men they continue to pop off. Thats the wrong way to go about business. You should respect the other person point, blank, period. If youre hurling insults youre not respecting me. While thats not reason enough to make it physical, I have the feeling that if the laws and society wernt on your side, and you knew I could fuck you up the same way a female would youd tread more lightly... I dont see how this point is being missed on your part. Not questioning your intelligence, it just seems that youre hung on the wrong thing...

I don't really care about anything else other than you grasp that what i enlarged and bolded. Everything else is your view of things. And not relevant in my view to what we're talking about in this thread. So long as you realize....that words aren't reason enough to get physical. Hopefully you tell your brothers that.
 
I cant post a youtube....

Six in every 10 women who are victims of homicide were murdered by someone they knew. About half of these women were murdered by a spouse or someone with whom they had been intimate.

Domestic violence is the leading cause of injury to women between the ages of 15-44.
Every 21 days, a woman is killed by domestic violence.

Children are involved in 60 percent of domestic violence cases.
More than three million children witness acts of domestic violence each year.

Up to 50 percent of all homeless women and children in this country are fleeing domestic violence.

One in ten calls made to alert police of domestic violence is placed by a child in the home.

More than 53 percent of male abusers beat their children.

More than 2.5 million females experience some form of violence each year. Almost two of every three of these females are attacked by a relative or person known to them.
I'm just saying. You think posting that video to me is supposed to mean something compared to these statistics? Seriously?

So, that excuses females from testing men, who in no way would abuse them, test them and fuck with them, are you serious?

Again, no one should hot no one, but god damn, that is no damn excuse to pick a fight and expect not to face consequences for it

Pick your battles better, chose your mates better, and know when to let shit go solves so much of this fuckery

Now, i dont know who fucked with you, who messed with you, but that nigga aint me, and going after every man as a potential abuser as feminist have been training women to dont help, it hurts
 
You come off as a man of accord and ability. Reason.

I've never hit anyone in my life who was just talking to me. And no reasonable person should agree to hitting people when they're just using words.

Males are so much stronger and more powerful than females but feel that, hitting a woman who's weaker than you proves your manhood. Toughguys i swear. :smh:

which is my point
no words will make me strike a woman
a woman hitting me will make me restrain her and make her stop so she can calm down
(grab her arms and not let her strike me and tell her to calm her ass down)

males are stronger but some women don't know their place
they act as if they are stronger and try to flex
which is why i said restrain or stop her from hitting me
im not getting hit by anybody for any reason

words wont provoke me to hitting you
i can handle words with better words

if you hit me im going to stop you from hitting me.
 
Women more likely to be perpetrators of abuse as well as victims
Filed under Education, Family, Gender, Law, Research on Thursday, July 13, 2006.

GAINESVILLE, Fla. — Women are more likely than men to stalk, attack and psychologically abuse their partners, according to a University of Florida study that finds college women have a new view of the dating scene.

“We’re seeing women in relationships acting differently nowadays than we have in the past,” said Angela Gover, a UF criminologist who led the research. “The nature of criminality has been changing for females, and this change is reflected in intimate relationships as well.”

In a survey of 2,500 students at UF and the University of South Carolina between August and December 2005, more than a quarter (29 percent) reported physically assaulting their dates and 22 percent reported being the victims of attacks during the past year. Thirty-two percent of women reported being the perpetrators of this violence, compared with 24 percent of men. The students took selected liberal arts and sciences courses. Forty percent were men and 60 percent were women, reflecting the gender composition of these classes.

In a separate survey of 1,490 UF students, one quarter (25 percent) said they had been stalked during the past year and 7 percent reported engaging in stalking, of whom a majority (58 percent) were female.

Although women were the predominant abusers, they still made up the largest number of victims in both surveys, accounting for 70 percent of those being stalked, for example.

The reason more college men weren’t victims may be that women in the study did not exclusively date them, preferring men who had already graduated, not yet enrolled in college or chose not to attend college at all, Gover said. “It shows that students who are perpetrating these attacks aren’t just targeting other students on campus,” she said.

It also is possible that some of the physical attacks women claim they are responsible for are actually acts of self-defense, Gover added. “Maybe some of these women have been abused by their partner for some time and they’re finally fighting back,” she said.

Recent studies on domestic violence suggest that whereas in the past victims might have felt trapped in violent situations, today’s women are more likely to understand they have options instead of putting up with mistreatment, she said.
“I think we may also be seeing sort of a new dynamic in dating relationships in terms of women feeling more empowered,” she said. “They recognize they don’t have to be in a dating relationship forever. They can get out of it.”

Child abuse was the single biggest determining factor for men and women becoming perpetrators or victims of either dating violence or stalking, Gover said. Even if one never personally experienced abuse, witnessing violence between one’s parents as a child increased the likelihood of stalking or being stalked as a young adult and it made girls more susceptible to becoming victims of dating violence when they grew up, she said.

The survey found that men and women who were abused as children were 43 percent more likely than their peers who were not mistreated to perpetrate physical violence and 51 percent more likely to be victims of physical violence in a dating relationship. Violent acts included kicking or slapping, pushing or shoving, punching or hitting with a hand or object, slamming someone against a wall and using force to make a partner have sex, she said.

Sexual risk-taking – the age when survey respondents first had sex and the number of sexual partners in their lifetime – was another important risk factor, but surprisingly, attitudes toward women made no difference, said Gover, who did her research with Catherine Kaukinen, a University of South Carolina criminology professor, and Kathleen Fox, a UF graduate student in criminology. Some of the findings were presented at the American Society of Criminology annual meeting in November in Toronto.
The study also was among the first to look at psychological abuse. Examples included preventing partners from seeing family or friends, shouting at them and using threats to have sex.

Fifty-four percent of respondents reported being psychologically abusive, and 52 percent said they were victims of this type of behavior. Women were more likely to be psychologically abusive, with 57 percent saying they were perpetrators versus 50 percent of males.

Shelley Serdahely, executive director of Men Stopping Violence, in Decatur, Ga., questions the validity of studies showing women are more violent. “Women might be more likely to get frustrated because men are not taught how to be active listeners and women feel like they are not being heard,” she said. “Often women are more emotional because the relationship matters a lot to them, and while that may come out in a push or a shove or a grab, all of which are considered dating violence, it doesn’t have the effect of intimidating the man.”
 
Whoa, wait a minute...don't use "you guys"...I'm not trying to justify any violence...no one should be hitting anyone...and although if a man hits a woman, he will go to jail, If a woman hits a man, she will not go to jail more often than not, btw...

Ok not you. That's all i wanted to catch that you guys understood. from jump. No one should be hitting anyone. And you damn sure shouldn't be hitting your girl cuz she's loud talking you.

And i'd like to see the statistics on that please. What you said in red. Because whenever i've seen or heard of a woman hitting a guy and it was an abuse situation, she attacked him. The woman has gone to jail.
 
I don't really care about anything else other than you grasp that what i enlarged and bolded. Everything else is your view of things. And not relevant in my view to what we're talking about in this thread. So long as you realize....that words aren't reason enough to get physical. Hopefully you tell your brothers that.

:hmm:Sweethart... That what weve ALL been saying the last page of this thread... You for whatever reason have chosen not to acknowledge it because everything else that is said along with that fact didnt suit your agenda...
 
:hmm:Sweethart... That what weve ALL been saying the last page of this thread... You for whatever reason have chosen not to acknowledge it because everything else that is said along with that fact didnt suit your agenda...

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Only weak men hit women over words

its when the situation gets out of control, the confrontation becomes physical, and lets face it, some females use this to test men to see how far they can get in disrespecting the fool before escalating shit out of controlAnd nowhere have i ever advocated this type of behavior from a female. It's unladylike. Get loud, but don't go hitting him.

And thank you for noticing how I separate women and femalesIt's what i always do bro. There's a vast difference between MEN and MALES and WOMEN and FEMALES.

Real women act with decorum and decency and know when to fight and let it go.

Females are just women by biology, dont know the first thing about acting like a lady, but uses the fact they are female as an excuse to go out of pocket with people

I think the other posters are referring to situation to when females just keep pushing the issue, escalating shit which leads to something physical, or doing something so uber out of pocket, a two piece to the cabbage is just second nature Then he's not a man. I should be able to say what i want anyway i want too without you hitting me. Use your words boys!

All people have limits, even the most stable of men, push past that limit and you will see the the inner Ike Turner that he's was never there to teh surface
Bro that's EXACTLY what i'm saying. That's all i've said. The only thing i'm talking about in this thread. You got cats big upping Mr. Connery for slapping women and he's just talkin about if she's talking back to him. Me and Followup have been speaking on this form the GET.
 
Bro that's EXACTLY what i'm saying. That's all i've said. The only thing i'm talking about in this thread. You got cats big upping Mr. Connery for slapping women and he's just talkin about if she's talking back to him. Me and Followup have been speaking on this form the GET.

But you want the right to push men to their limits with words, but if that said man says the wrong type of shit that pushes you there, you wanna lay hands on him

How about you dont do it?

How about you dont keep going to test the mans limits and finding out something you didnt need to find out?

Most men, we want peace

And how much domestic shit start when a female just dont know when to quit?

I dont mean say one thing and get popped, I mean escalation upon escalation, and if you feel you need to insert drama just for drama, then you dont need to be in a relationship

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And this, dont make men endearing or wanting to take a chance with you at all, just saying
 
:hmm:Sweethart... That what weve ALL been saying the last page of this thread... You for whatever reason have chosen not to acknowledge it because everything else that is said along with that fact didnt suit your agenda...

This last page where 2 of you have been responding. Where you've come out and said, yeah it's not cool to hit people for words. Which if you look at my very first post, all of my posts, have been about THAT.

I think you should go read some of those other posts.

And no my husband has never laid a single hand on me in anger. Like i said in my other posts he would find that a weakness of his own character. In which 2 other posters said he was weak for not wanting to hit women. He never verbally abused me. He never had too, and would never do it to anyone. It wasn't his way. Lots of boys would say that's weak. But to him it was a strength.

I see where the issue lies. This whole don' hit a girl no matter what thing, i don't know who brought that up. But i didn't. All i've ever spoken of was what Connery said in the video, which all the guys up until Largebills came up and said. Was such a wonderful thing to do.
 
which is my point
no words will make me strike a woman
a woman hitting me will make me restrain her and make her stop so she can calm down
(grab her arms and not let her strike me and tell her to calm her ass down)

males are stronger but some women don't know their place
they act as if they are stronger and try to flex
which is why i said restrain or stop her from hitting me
im not getting hit by anybody for any reason

words wont provoke me to hitting you
i can handle words with better words

if you hit me im going to stop you from hitting me.

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But you want the right to push men to their limits with words, but if that said man says the wrong type of shit that pushes you there, you wanna lay hands on him

How about you dont do it?

How about you dont keep going to test the mans limits and finding out something you didnt need to find out?

Most men, we want peace

And how much domestic shit start when a female just dont know when to quit?

I dont mean say one thing and get popped, I mean escalation upon escalation, and if you feel you need to insert drama just for drama, then you dont need to be in a relationship


Right, its the same thing as fucking with an animal. It really just wants to be left alone. But kids poke it, and throw shit at it, chase it when it tries to get away, does more shit to it until the fucker snaps and fucks a kid up. Then they go home call animal control and the animal get taken away, put down, all because some fuckers dont know when to leave shit alone... Some females have grown up and never learned to that lesson... Females need to SHUT THE FUCK UP when your dude shows signs of irritation!!! Just SHUT THE FUCK UP!!! But you cant can you, its something inside that wont let you leave shit alone... I whole heartedly agree that most domestic issue are the female takin shit too far. Yeah you have some miserable fucks who just ike beating women... Im not talking about them, but the avg dude, who works at UPS, comes home, just wants to relax and his lady is bitching abou who knows what, he asks to be left alone and the shit starts downhill... All cause she didnt know when to SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!
 
So, that excuses females from testing men, who in no way would abuse them, test them and fuck with them, are you serious? Absolutely serious. I can say f u, f your mama, f your grandmama and f everyone else who looks like them. And i should be able to keep talking until i'm HOARSE. Blue in the face. And no i do not believe at any point do you have the right to hit me. I haven't laid a hand on you. Don't lay a hand on me. Breaking point schreaking point. When i present myself to you as a danger then you should probably remove yourself from the situation. Call the police on me. Because if you know the chicks i know? They're standing there with the phone in hand waiting for you to hit them with 911 on speed dial. And the tears ready to fall on command.

Again, no one should hot no one, but god damn, that is no damn excuse to pick a fight and expect not to face consequences for it
You say no one should hit no one, but then you imply hitting as a consequence? That's like saying i should expect to get stabbed for disagreeing with you on anything? There's reasonable consequences and unreasonable bro.
Pick your battles better, chose your mates better, and know when to let shit go solves so much of this fuckery

Now, i dont know who fucked with you, who messed with you, but that nigga aint me, and going after every man as a potential abuser as feminist have been training women to dont help, it hurts
Are you talking to me specifically?
 
I find it odd...that you say a man who chooses not to hit a woman over her words. Like Mr. Connery said to do. That's what the video is talking about and you all are definitely big upping. Celebrating even. Saying is perfectly justifiable.

Which is what i'm speaking on. You immediately fall into changing the justification process. And saying that he was weak because he didn't hit women. Interesting indeed.

You change it to....."If she hits you..." Well that's not what he said in the video. It's not what he believes. he said in the video and you all agreed with him. That if the woman keeps speaking or gets out of line with trying to make her point, then she should be hit.

This is what he said and you all agreed too. Not anything he said had to do with the woman hitting him. Nothing like that. Nothing i said had to do with the woman hitting him.

Stick to the discussion at hand. You guys like hitting women. You like it done no matter what the situation is. And you try to justify your KNOWINGLY messed up actions by adding tidbits to the discussion.



fuck all the bs ,me nah go sidestep nuthin.some bitches need a good slap sometime,and even yall bitches know it.you want a man to be strong give you good dick have some paper and be in charge.even the ones typin dat bs know dey need a good ringing open handed slap in the face once in a while ..not abuse jus a reality check.real talk.
 
:lol:at the ronald regan slap.dat was an example of when a woman should be slapped.dat was gangsta now i see how he won the presidency,if i hada seen dat movie i woulda voted for him as well.
 
Shelley Serdahely, executive director of Men Stopping Violence, in Decatur, Ga., questions the validity of studies showing women are more violent. “Women might be more likely to get frustrated because men are not taught how to be active listeners and women feel like they are not being heard,” she said. “Often women are more emotional because the relationship matters a lot to them, and while that may come out in a push or a shove or a grab, all of which are considered dating violence, it doesn’t have the effect of intimidating the man.”

Just got around to reading this... The length females will go to to try and justify why its ok for them to do or say whatever they want to us and be exempt of retaliatory actions... Intimidating or not, its an escalatory action and women rarely face the consequences of such actions...
 
Youre reading... But not fully comprehending... I never said that putting your hands on someone is acceptable unless its done to you first. I said that if women respected men the same way they would a female youd have a lot less females talking reckless... Two females arguing are only gonna go so far because in the back of their head they know if the shit keeps up somebody is gonna swing on somebody. This fear checks the angry spirit. Because women dont have this innate fear of men they continue to pop off. Thats the wrong way to go about business. You should respect the other person point, blank, period. If youre hurling insults youre not respecting me. While thats not reason enough to make it physical, I have the feeling that if the laws and society wernt on your side, and you knew I could fuck you up the same way a female would youd tread more lightly... I dont see how this point is being missed on your part. Not questioning your intelligence, it just seems that youre hung on the wrong thing...


<at highlighted> It amazes me how ALL MEN and women not from westernized countries understand this simple concept.:hmm:

Amazing...

*two cents*
 
Based on reports from 10 countries, between 55 percent and 95 percent of women who had been physically abused by their parnterns had never contacted non-governmental organizations, shelters, or the police for help. The costs of intimate partner violence in the US alone exceed $5.8 billion per year: $4.1 billion are for direct medical and health care services, while productivity losses acount for nearly $1.8 billion. Men who as children witnessed their parents’ domestic violence were twice as likely to abuse their own wives than sons of nonviolent parents.
 
Based on reports from 10 countries, between 55 percent and 95 percent of women who had been physically abused by their parnterns had never contacted non-governmental organizations, shelters, or the police for help. The costs of intimate partner violence in the US alone exceed $5.8 billion per year: $4.1 billion are for direct medical and health care services, while productivity losses acount for nearly $1.8 billion. Men who as children witnessed their parents’ domestic violence were twice as likely to abuse their own wives than sons of nonviolent parents.


Maybe those women need to make better choices in mates...:hmm:

Or learn to shut the fuck up and not rattle the tiger's cage (most women know they man and no what buttons to push)...:hmm:

Cause everybody don't play by the "don't hit a woman ever" rule.:hmm:


I'm.Just.Saying.:hmm:


*two cents*
 
Every 9 seconds in the US a woman is assaulted or beaten. * Around the world, at least one in every three women has been beaten, coerced into sex or otherwise abused during her lifetime. Most often, the abuser is a member of her own family. * Domestic violence is the leading cause of injury to women—more than care accidents, muggings, and rapes combined. * Studies suggest that up to 10 million children witness some form of domestic violence annually. * Nearly 1 in 5 teenage girls who have been in a relationship said a boyfriend threatened violence or self-harm if presented with a breakup. * Everyday in the US, more than three women are murdered by their husbands or boyfriends.
 
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