Saint Augustine's University is in a dire situation

Facts.

Definitely, not built the same. And you can tell the difference too. I took one of the most rigorous pathways for a masters and PhD.

For my masters, I have to do a thesis and a cumulative exam for all the math class I took in order for me to graduate.

For my PhD, I was required to have at least two papers published to graduate. I published three.

That pathway took 6.5 years. The masters degree was much more challenging.

Yup. I tell kids that are thinking about graduate school that you need to look and see if the program is accredited. Most programs have an accrediting body that accredits the program.

The accreditation at least lets you know that the program you are looking at meets certain requirements and is a quality program...

Plus companies know this and will be more inclined to recruit from those schools....
 
Yup. I tell kids that are thinking about graduate school that you need to look and see if the program is accredited. Most programs have an accrediting body that accredits the program.

The accreditation at least lets you know that the program you are looking at meets certain requirements and is a quality program...

Plus companies know this and will be more inclined to recruit from those schools....

And even accreditation isn’t the same, BUT you’re right about companies know about certain programs.

Working at a for-profit school was an eye opening experience. The school was SACSCOC accredited and we pipelined students to local companies to the triad area. Good for entry level positions and folks looking to switch careers.
 
Facts.

Definitely, not built the same. And you can tell the difference too. I took one of the most rigorous pathways for a masters and PhD.

For my masters, I have to do a thesis and a cumulative exam for all the math class I took in order for me to graduate.

For my PhD, I was required to have at least two papers published to graduate. I published three.

That pathway took 6.5 years. The masters degree was much more challenging.
This is nothing but facts! I know a few women right now who about to get their PhD in like a matter of 2 years. Both are getting their's in Counseling. One is an acting LPC who is crazy as fuck herself. The crazy one basically quit work to go to school full time and live off loans to graduate early. She is 40 years old doing the same insane loan stuff like a 20 year old but she is gonna counsel people.
 
This is nothing but facts! I know a few women right now who about to get their PhD in like a matter of 2 years. Both are getting their's in Counseling. One is an acting LPC who is crazy as fuck herself. The crazy one basically quit work to go to school full time and live off loans to graduate early. She is 40 years old doing the same insane loan stuff like a 20 year old but she is gonna counsel people.

Yeah, and there are many for-profit schools capitalizing on fast paced PhD programs. The whole system is a racket, but folks fall right in to it.

She definitely don’t need a PhD to counsel people. PhDs work it theoretical and rigorous for most. Nobody I know got a PhD in two years.
 
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This is the type of nonsense I deal with mostly with whites but it is starting to escalate my people. We can't bring their dysfunctional behavior into our communities or people like me vanish never to return.
 


The University has called for students, except seniors and athletes, to pack up and move out by April 3, as they go remote for the rest of the school year.

Aladdin Dining Services, the University's food services vendor, told CBS 17 they were informed less than a week ago that campus was going to shut down.

Not only does the University owe nearly $8 million to the federal government in back taxes, but they also owe money to several businesses, including a turf company and insurance company.
 


The University has called for students, except seniors and athletes, to pack up and move out by April 3, as they go remote for the rest of the school year.

Aladdin Dining Services, the University's food services vendor, told CBS 17 they were informed less than a week ago that campus was going to shut down.

Not only does the University owe nearly $8 million to the federal government in back taxes, but they also owe money to several businesses, including a turf company and insurance company.

Damn
 

Raleigh downtown developers seek HBCU merger, says trustee​

Raleigh city officials aim to merge HBCUs, citing land use reasons. Saint Augustine’s financial issues and Shaw’s downtown location are factors.
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BySteven J. Gaither
Posted on June 19, 2024
A leader at one Raleigh HBCU says that if the powers that be have there way, its two HBCUs would become one.

Brian Boulware, currently the Chairman of Saint Augustine’s University’s Board of Trustees, released a four-page letter that states that the powers that be in North Carolina’s capital are looking to force a merger between his school and neighboring HBCU Shaw University. According to his letter, the driving force is an effort to seize the downtown land that Shaw University has sat on since its inception back in 1867.

Boulware cited a dinner meeting involving himself, Saint Augustine’s University Interim President Marcus Burgess and “executives of another local higher education institution” along with the owner of a local television station, the former editor of the local newspaper. Both the television owner, editor and a developer were unnamed in his letter, dated June 17.

“Let’s get to the bottom of this,” the television station owner said, according to the document. “Raleigh doesn’t need two black universities. We need the two of them to merge. I don’t care what you call it. However, we need them both on SAU’s property because we need downtown land to expand the development footprint.”
Saint Augustine's University, HBCU


According to Boulware, the local developer continued to push the idea, stating that the Raleigh business community felt the same way.

“You have no leverage in the situation. You need to consider this an option.”
SAULetterPage1Download
Boulware says the other institutions’ president didn’t say much other than she was “going to reserve judgement.” It went on to state that a member of the other university’s board had floated the idea to his predecesor at Saint Aug, but it was not taken seriously.
The letter states that intense dialogue followed along with the rejection of the proposal. Boulware’s letter states that following the dinner “a targeted campaign against SAU ensued.”

Saint Augustine’s University has been in the news frequently over the last fiscal year regarding issues with its finances and accreditation. But Shaw University has fared better, but it does sit on valuable downtown real estate at a time when the city leadership is pushing to reshape the area.

Earlier this year the Downtown Raleigh Alliance (DRA) brought a plan to revitalize the growing city’s downtown to city leaders. Shaw sits on around 30 acres of downtown real estate. But not for long, if you believe Boulware’s account.
 

Raleigh downtown developers seek HBCU merger, says trustee​

Raleigh city officials aim to merge HBCUs, citing land use reasons. Saint Augustine’s financial issues and Shaw’s downtown location are factors.
8e3946b1967d140f7ab10c4186270d08

BySteven J. Gaither
Posted on June 19, 2024
A leader at one Raleigh HBCU says that if the powers that be have there way, its two HBCUs would become one.

Brian Boulware, currently the Chairman of Saint Augustine’s University’s Board of Trustees, released a four-page letter that states that the powers that be in North Carolina’s capital are looking to force a merger between his school and neighboring HBCU Shaw University. According to his letter, the driving force is an effort to seize the downtown land that Shaw University has sat on since its inception back in 1867.

Boulware cited a dinner meeting involving himself, Saint Augustine’s University Interim President Marcus Burgess and “executives of another local higher education institution” along with the owner of a local television station, the former editor of the local newspaper. Both the television owner, editor and a developer were unnamed in his letter, dated June 17.

“Let’s get to the bottom of this,” the television station owner said, according to the document. “Raleigh doesn’t need two black universities. We need the two of them to merge. I don’t care what you call it. However, we need them both on SAU’s property because we need downtown land to expand the development footprint.”
Saint Augustine's University, HBCU's University, HBCU


According to Boulware, the local developer continued to push the idea, stating that the Raleigh business community felt the same way.

“You have no leverage in the situation. You need to consider this an option.”
SAULetterPage1Download
Boulware says the other institutions’ president didn’t say much other than she was “going to reserve judgement.” It went on to state that a member of the other university’s board had floated the idea to his predecesor at Saint Aug, but it was not taken seriously.
The letter states that intense dialogue followed along with the rejection of the proposal. Boulware’s letter states that following the dinner “a targeted campaign against SAU ensued.”

Saint Augustine’s University has been in the news frequently over the last fiscal year regarding issues with its finances and accreditation. But Shaw University has fared better, but it does sit on valuable downtown real estate at a time when the city leadership is pushing to reshape the area.

Earlier this year the Downtown Raleigh Alliance (DRA) brought a plan to revitalize the growing city’s downtown to city leaders. Shaw sits on around 30 acres of downtown real estate. But not for long, if you believe Boulware’s account.

This isn’t surprising. Shaw U is sitting on prime real estate.

I maybe mistaken, but Shaw U wasn’t doing to well financially back when I was in school in 09. White people have always wanted to get their hands on that land.
 

Raleigh downtown developers seek HBCU merger, says trustee​

Raleigh city officials aim to merge HBCUs, citing land use reasons. Saint Augustine’s financial issues and Shaw’s downtown location are factors.
8e3946b1967d140f7ab10c4186270d08

BySteven J. Gaither
Posted on June 19, 2024
A leader at one Raleigh HBCU says that if the powers that be have there way, its two HBCUs would become one.

Brian Boulware, currently the Chairman of Saint Augustine’s University’s Board of Trustees, released a four-page letter that states that the powers that be in North Carolina’s capital are looking to force a merger between his school and neighboring HBCU Shaw University. According to his letter, the driving force is an effort to seize the downtown land that Shaw University has sat on since its inception back in 1867.

Boulware cited a dinner meeting involving himself, Saint Augustine’s University Interim President Marcus Burgess and “executives of another local higher education institution” along with the owner of a local television station, the former editor of the local newspaper. Both the television owner, editor and a developer were unnamed in his letter, dated June 17.

“Let’s get to the bottom of this,” the television station owner said, according to the document. “Raleigh doesn’t need two black universities. We need the two of them to merge. I don’t care what you call it. However, we need them both on SAU’s property because we need downtown land to expand the development footprint.”
Saint Augustine's University, HBCU's University, HBCU


According to Boulware, the local developer continued to push the idea, stating that the Raleigh business community felt the same way.

“You have no leverage in the situation. You need to consider this an option.”
SAULetterPage1Download
Boulware says the other institutions’ president didn’t say much other than she was “going to reserve judgement.” It went on to state that a member of the other university’s board had floated the idea to his predecesor at Saint Aug, but it was not taken seriously.
The letter states that intense dialogue followed along with the rejection of the proposal. Boulware’s letter states that following the dinner “a targeted campaign against SAU ensued.”

Saint Augustine’s University has been in the news frequently over the last fiscal year regarding issues with its finances and accreditation. But Shaw University has fared better, but it does sit on valuable downtown real estate at a time when the city leadership is pushing to reshape the area.

Earlier this year the Downtown Raleigh Alliance (DRA) brought a plan to revitalize the growing city’s downtown to city leaders. Shaw sits on around 30 acres of downtown real estate. But not for long, if you believe Boulware’s account.
Shaw University was in the same boat as St. Aug 20 years ago. Shaw figured it out and focused on online, older adults, and international students. St. Aug kept on selling that "Different World" to students from up north and screwing them over with high ass tuition. Less students enrolled to St. Aug. It started to become a ghost town the last couple of years. I'm technically still an employee/contractor with Shaw and St. Aug. I stopped fucking with St. Aug about 5 years ago. They never paid me on time. Personally I think St. Aug is done. Maybe Wake Tech will buy them out and make it a community college satellite. They actually have a big campus and probably could sell half of it for their debt (20 mill).
 
Shaw University was in the same boat as St. Aug 20 years ago. Shaw figured it out and focused on online, older adults, and international students. St. Aug kept on selling that "Different World" to students from up north and screwing them over with high ass tuition. Less students enrolled to St. Aug. It started to become a ghost town the last couple of years. I'm technically still an employee/contractor with Shaw and St. Aug. I stopped fucking with St. Aug about 5 years ago. They never paid me on time. Personally I think St. Aug is done. Maybe Wake Tech will buy them out and make it a community college satellite. They actually have a big campus and probably could sell half of it for their debt (20 mill).
Yeah Wake Tech grabbing would be a good
Idea.

I think they going to tear it down and build what they doing all across the country - yoga studios, coffee shops, and etc.
 
This, that area is being gentrified like a MF. I don't see St. Aug recovering from this.
Yup my homie that lives in Raleigh told me this like 8 or 9 years ago that area was changing. I’m in Raleigh a lot, but haven’t been near St Aug since college and it was trash back in the early 2000s.

Not surprised though because you are seeing this a lot in cities where HBCU campuses are in the downtown area. Prime real estate. Land grabbing all day
 
I also saw on Twitter that the alumni is suing the board. Not sure if that’s true or not



It appears that's actually how this 'merger' conversation became public... lawsuit was filed and the Chairman, Brian Boulware, responded to the suit in a letter stating there were local entities working against them (no funding if you don't merge with Shaw). Then it seems he implies the newspaper's reporting of SAU's struggles was retaliation for rejecting the merger proposal


As a response to that lawsuit, Boulware sent a lengthy letter addressed to Falcon Nation defending his actions and accusing the push against him and the university's board as being filled with "lies and deceptions."
He said the day after that conversation, a news report highlighted the financial challenges of SAU and other regional HBCUs in North Carolina.
Boulware goes on to say that investigations into SAU and accreditation problems the university has dealt with lately were all connected to this push to get SAU to merge and free up land for development.

 
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St Augustine's University reinstated as accredited institution

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Monday, July 22, 2024 11:39AM

RALEIGH, N.C. (WTVD) -- St Augustine's University has regained its status as an accredited institution.

In a Monday press release, The Southern Association of Colleges and Schools Commission on Colleges (SACSCOC) decided to unanimously reverse the 2023 decision to strip SAU of its membership.

This decision led to more questions surrounding their financial status, eventually leading to an investigation by the Department of Labor. There were accusations that the university had not been up to date on paying their staff.

"This reinstatement acknowledges SAU's relentless dedication to upholding academic standards and ensuring a thriving educational environment for our students," Interim President Dr. Marcus H. Burgess said. "We are resolute in our mission to overcome challenges and emerge stronger than ever."

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According to the press release, the decision rectifies an "unjust ruling" and makes it so SAU can showcase compliance with Core Requirement 4.1, Core Requirement 13.1, Core Requirement 13.2, Standard 13.3, Standard 13.4, and Standard 13.6 of the Principles of Accreditation.

This reaffirms the university's intent to welcome students back for the fall semester, the press release said.


 

St Augustine's University reinstated as accredited institution

WTVD logo
Monday, July 22, 2024 11:39AM

RALEIGH, N.C. (WTVD) -- St Augustine's University has regained its status as an accredited institution.

In a Monday press release, The Southern Association of Colleges and Schools Commission on Colleges (SACSCOC) decided to unanimously reverse the 2023 decision to strip SAU of its membership.

This decision led to more questions surrounding their financial status, eventually leading to an investigation by the Department of Labor. There were accusations that the university had not been up to date on paying their staff.

"This reinstatement acknowledges SAU's relentless dedication to upholding academic standards and ensuring a thriving educational environment for our students," Interim President Dr. Marcus H. Burgess said. "We are resolute in our mission to overcome challenges and emerge stronger than ever."

More St. Augustine's University Stories

According to the press release, the decision rectifies an "unjust ruling" and makes it so SAU can showcase compliance with Core Requirement 4.1, Core Requirement 13.1, Core Requirement 13.2, Standard 13.3, Standard 13.4, and Standard 13.6 of the Principles of Accreditation.

This reaffirms the university's intent to welcome students back for the fall semester, the press release said.



Interesting....
 
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St Augustine's University reinstated as accredited institution

WTVD logo
Monday, July 22, 2024 11:39AM

RALEIGH, N.C. (WTVD) -- St Augustine's University has regained its status as an accredited institution.

In a Monday press release, The Southern Association of Colleges and Schools Commission on Colleges (SACSCOC) decided to unanimously reverse the 2023 decision to strip SAU of its membership.

This decision led to more questions surrounding their financial status, eventually leading to an investigation by the Department of Labor. There were accusations that the university had not been up to date on paying their staff.

"This reinstatement acknowledges SAU's relentless dedication to upholding academic standards and ensuring a thriving educational environment for our students," Interim President Dr. Marcus H. Burgess said. "We are resolute in our mission to overcome challenges and emerge stronger than ever."

More St. Augustine's University Stories

According to the press release, the decision rectifies an "unjust ruling" and makes it so SAU can showcase compliance with Core Requirement 4.1, Core Requirement 13.1, Core Requirement 13.2, Standard 13.3, Standard 13.4, and Standard 13.6 of the Principles of Accreditation.

This reaffirms the university's intent to welcome students back for the fall semester, the press release said.


sound like some game of thrones power moves were being made in the background
 
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