Pushing their bullshit beliefs on everyone like the gays. FUCK EM BOTH 2011 AND BEYOND.
But you're a gay. A Gay ass trolling faggot. Get a fucking job crakkka.
Pushing their bullshit beliefs on everyone like the gays. FUCK EM BOTH 2011 AND BEYOND.
But you're a gay. A Gay ass trolling faggot. Get a fucking job crakkka.
Most atheist's arguments are straw man arguments.
They take the comments of ignorant 'believers' and apply that to ALL believers.
Then they bring up crusades and how religion has been used to kill people- but the fact is, without religion there would have been another reason they'd find to hate and kill.
Look at America. Here, the primary means of categorization is race. So we discriminate and kill based on that.
Overseas in countries where everyone is the same race, it's religion and where you're born or living.
And you can't believe that those who use religion for nefarious purposes signifies that religion is inherently bad.
When used properly it can be used to inspire, to create. But throughout history you've had people in positions of power who use it for THEIR gain, and not for others.
Hell it's like white people who base their perception of black people on the rotten group, then assume every black person is like that.
I'm sure you black atheists get mad about people who do that. Go figure.
You're going to have to prove your delusion, oops, I mean "spirituality" some way in order for the masses to understand WTF it is you are talking about, because your word is meaningless.
If I posted a thread talkin about I saw a ghost, you niggas would want pics, video footage, interviews with the ghost, etc. But I'm suppose to just "take a leap of faith" and believe your spirituality isn't a form of mental illness?You can't prove nor convey ANY of these spiritual happenings but I and others are suppose to just believe you are of sound mind because YOU said so? But in the same breath you'd be the same nigga grillin the next nigga for proof.
GTFOH.
"Proof" is not the problem.
And all xtian asswipes do is shit on non xtians 25/7.
If you're an Atheists you will go to hell
If you are a Muslim you will got to hell
If you are a Buddhist you will go to hell
If you are Hindu you will go to hell
But these assholes have the nerve to get hyper sensitive because they are getting exposed for the retarded knuckle draggers they really are?![]()
Thought I was the only one.I'm not sure I understand what you just wrote
you can't prove your delusions to others
As an Atheist(a minor dimension to my personality), I would say I AM out of touch . . . with theist quackery, or quackery of most kinds anyway(and I'm honest about that). Live and let live I say . . . But almost nowhere in the western world can you cut a fart without some presumtuous 'believer' assuming you walk the same 'path'("bless you", "amen", "amma pray for you", "have a blessed day", "place your trust in god, son", "accept the holy spirit", "It's a miracle"). And let's not forget ALL of the symbolism, and imagery inundating secularists folks everyday.
Hell YEAH, some atheist can be mean to theist. Muthafukas get TIRED of your tired ass projections. On the other hand, theist and atheists are mean to everyone at some point. So this tired ass back and forth is a bunch of Kabuki theatre. FUCK WHAT YOU BELIEVE YOU KNOW . . . WHAT DO YOU KNOW?
I address people as people . . . not the social/cultural bs that they ID themselves by. Some of my favorite people are 'true believers'. But we respect each other on a human level. I'm a human being before ANY other designation. And THAT'S the common basis upon which I relate to anyone. Thing is, each side (if you so strongly ally with a 'team', personally I don't) believes they know, or feel best about the god question. However, Atheists on balance, aren't proselytizing and nation building and promoting a cultural agenda through a global network of churches, temples, synagogues, mosques, televangelism, radio, public policy lobbyism, ENTIRE DAYS, nationally for YOUR observances, etc.
And after ALL that, you RELIGIOUS kats seem to be OBLIVIOUS to this widespread, deeply entrenched permeation and intrusion of YOUR ideals projected the world over . . . and ATHEISTS are the 'problem'???!!!!
And you 'spiritual' muthafuckas crack me up. At least religion means 'something' that has a definition. I have YET to see a SINGLE one of you, "I'm not religious...I'm spiritual" folks, define anything that constitutes an organizing principal that amounts to a modicum of sense.
I see no difference AT ALL between you folks and the 'BORG'. Str8 fiction . . . of the most dangerous and subversive kind. Look up tyranny of the majority. That is YOU.
And as much as you folks like to 'compare' one to another. You FAIL on it's face.
Because your basic perception of existence BEGINS with and ENDS with your deity. I have NO such proclivities simply because I don't have a need to fill up my deficits in info/knowledge with a fabricated CONCEPT of a deity that resolves the questions I can't answer myself. Forgive the broad stroke, but spare me the fake humility. ARROGANCE is in your SOUL.
I tend to avoid these threads, because they're too low brow, and NEVER end in growth. So I will leave you all to circle jerk each other as you build page after page, "co-signing,"taberbacle-ing", and "chuuuch-ing" each other. . . as you miss and misunderstand the point. Atheist or not, the 'space' for a secularist is virtually impossible thanks to your zeal, and I suspect, quiet anxieties aimed at tamping down life's realities; resulting in this NEED to convert people, or silence the outliers. . . just so YOU can feel 'good'.
So it seems, it's Not about deities and systems of belief . . . but your own immature confrontation and struggle with your meaningless mortality and brief human existence. Death is as CERTAIN as LIFE. I embrace both. It's what you do between these bookended states that matters(imo). Anyhow, look around, THIS is YOUR world. Good job!!
JG
it's Not about deities and systems of belief . . . but your own immature confrontation and struggle with your meaningless mortality and brief human existence. Death is as CERTAIN as LIFE. I embrace both. It's what you do between these bookended states that matters(imo). Anyhow, look around, THIS is YOUR world. Good job!!
JG
Question: What do you want to do in your life that someone ELSE believing in a deity has kept you from?
As an Atheist(a minor dimension to my personality), I would say I AM out of touch . . . with theist quackery, or quackery of most kinds anyway(and I'm honest about that). Live and let live I say . . . But almost nowhere in the western world can you cut a fart without some presumtuous 'believer' assuming you walk the same 'path'("bless you", "amen", "amma pray for you", "have a blessed day", "place your trust in god, son", "accept the holy spirit", "It's a miracle"). And let's not forget ALL of the symbolism, and imagery inundating secularists folks everyday.
Hell YEAH, some atheist can be mean to theist. Muthafukas get TIRED of your tired ass projections. On the other hand, theist and atheists are mean to everyone at some point. So this tired ass back and forth is a bunch of Kabuki theatre. FUCK WHAT YOU BELIEVE YOU KNOW . . . WHAT DO YOU KNOW?
I address people as people . . . not the social/cultural bs that they ID themselves by. Some of my favorite people are 'true believers'. But we respect each other on a human level. I'm a human being before ANY other designation. And THAT'S the common basis upon which I relate to anyone. Thing is, each side (if you so strongly ally with a 'team', personally I don't) believes they know, or feel best about the god question. However, Atheists on balance, aren't proselytizing and nation building and promoting a cultural agenda through a global network of churches, temples, synagogues, mosques, televangelism, radio, public policy lobbyism, ENTIRE DAYS, nationally for YOUR observances, etc.
And after ALL that, you RELIGIOUS kats seem to be OBLIVIOUS to this widespread, deeply entrenched permeation and intrusion of YOUR ideals projected the world over . . . and ATHEISTS are the 'problem'???!!!!
And you 'spiritual' muthafuckas crack me up. At least religion means 'something' that has a definition. I have YET to see a SINGLE one of you, "I'm not religious...I'm spiritual" folks, define anything that constitutes an organizing principal that amounts to a modicum of sense.
I see no difference AT ALL between you folks and the 'BORG'. Str8 fiction . . . of the most dangerous and subversive kind. Look up tyranny of the majority. That is YOU.
And as much as you folks like to 'compare' one to another. You FAIL on it's face.
Because your basic perception of existence BEGINS with and ENDS with your deity. I have NO such proclivities simply because I don't have a need to fill up my deficits in info/knowledge with a fabricated CONCEPT of a deity that resolves the questions I can't answer myself. Forgive the broad stroke, but spare me the fake humility. ARROGANCE is in your SOUL.
I tend to avoid these threads, because they're too low brow, and NEVER end in growth. So I will leave you all to circle jerk each other as you build page after page, "co-signing,"taberbacle-ing", and "chuuuch-ing" each other. . . as you miss and misunderstand the point. Atheist or not, the 'space' for a secularist is virtually impossible thanks to your zeal, and I suspect, quiet anxieties aimed at tamping down life's realities; resulting in this NEED to convert people, or silence the outliers. . . just so YOU can feel 'good'.
So it seems, it's Not about deities and systems of belief . . . but your own immature confrontation and struggle with your meaningless mortality and brief human existence. Death is as CERTAIN as LIFE. I embrace both. It's what you do between these bookended states that matters(imo). Anyhow, look around, THIS is YOUR world. Good job!!
JG
You said a whole bunch of nothing. Most religious People don't substitute a Knowledge deficit with "deity" to fill up some empty Space.
Of course Arrogance is in everyones Soul... the Question is are you gonna let that shit enslave you or are U gonna be Man enough to Control your Arrogance.
Then again since U claim to be atheist howcome you even mention the Term "Soul" in the first place?
Secondly if in Your Opinion Existence is meaningless, why should it matter in any Form or Fashion what one does between Birth and Death? Since it's meaningless it shouldn't make a diffrence right?
Care to Answer?
cosign to the fullest.
on another note, JD Walker responded to someone saying atheists arent a church, we dont assemble, get together, etc...and RIGHT underneath his comment is a big ass link to where Black atheists MEET...
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I'm an Atheist, but people around me know it only when they bring up fairy tales. No fairy tales brought up, you can go your whole life without knowing I don't believe in sky fairies.
Don't be so ridiculous . . . Marv. You responded because I said SOMETHING! I mean really? So, you've met the 'creator'? You know the source of existence? Fascinating, care to introduce us to your . . . elusive, but oh so powerful associate? I ask, because I was raised by 'god loving' folks. And my experience is EXACTLY as I stated. God/Allah/whatever IS the answer to their existential questions. You still disagree? Cool.
Ahh, NOW "arrogance is in EVERYBODY'S SOUL", huh? Look, religious fervor dominates the globe with rife entitlement. Has been for millenia, yet ATHEISTS have a monopoly on arrogance? Did you read the article or my entire comment? C'mon, I wrote a few short paragraphs. I'll take your reply seriously, when you seriously read AND comprehend what I wrote. Fair? I mean, man, the op-ed is about how arrogant and obstructive atheists are . . . but that mirror never seems to capture the face of the claimant. Well, I thought I help you guys out since there seems to be a paucity of mirrors.
Struck a nerve? Apparently the irony was lost on you. Too bad, I thought the OBVIOUS, unstoppable laughing emoticon after the word "Soul" was a dead give away. . . see--->still funny imo, and it gets louder the more I think of it.
How's this for starters? Since humans are the ONLY species that 'make' meaning, the real question is what did my comment mean to you, personally? Because that's the only reason why you'd respond to my comment in the 1st place, right? I stated facts. What are you offering, discussion or worthless jabs?
The 'meaning' of anything depends on the individual. Individuals can form groups based on their 'agreement' about the meaning of things. These groups also, have power and influence by pooling together resources (time, money, services, etc.)to realize a goal. More members, more money, more influence = more power. Power to influence policy, which can in turn become an impediment, or facilitator to ones personal pursuit(esp. if one is outside said group). To the extent that ANY groups pursuits are counter to my own, is a concern. But meaning? If by that word you mean potential outcomes/consequences . . . well, lots can happen, both good and bad within that context. I know, I know, everyone thinks they're the 'good guys'. And what I said could apply to any group. Except, NO ideals are as enmeshed socially or politically as those based on religion. And no one violates those ideals more than the religious. There's more of that irony again . . . oh, and
JG
You know what I find funny??
Some athiests are quick to debate how evil the church actually is and use examples of the 15th century Crusades and so forth but when you bring up African Americans and 18th century slavery they say 'get over it ... that happened so long ago" ...
c/s
imo a lot of atheists think because they are informed they can be disrespectful ... but they are also believers ... because there is no proof we all believe in something
I have my Faith and it's principles that I try to adhere to, to the best of my Ability, there are good Days and bad Days. I don't think I am "better" than any other being especially not because they might have diffrent Beliefs or no Beliefs at all.To me it all boils down to deeds and the intentions behind them.
By me stating that Arrogance is in EVERYBODYS Soul i am knowingly in direct disagreance with the OP! Thats something I always believed in. I guess alotta Times Arrogance serves as some sort of Defense-Mechanism for a Person when their Beliefs are being attacked....
I don't think Atheists have a Monopoly on Arrogance......but Assholes do!![]()
A theory proven to exist. Yep. That sounds about right.You can't compare what you call "spirituality", which is a delusion/form of mental illness to quantum physics because theories in quantum physics, no matter how bizarre, HAVE BEEN PROVEN TO EXIST. Your "spirituality" (speaking in general terms) has not, and most of the time that's curable with proper medication.
So until you have proven that it exists, it does not exists.